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Move some of that junk out of the

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way maybe.

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We need onions.

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Here, Josh.

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Here's your seeds.

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Are you two rowing or what?

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I'll let grandpa tell you what to do.

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Yeah, we're gonna we're

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going to yeah don't mess with the

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lettuce yet. We've got to do onions

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see there Start with that

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each take a handful

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And you're gonna Natasha

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has made a

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trench for you

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All right, so why don't one

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of you go down one row

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I'll plant them a little closer

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together than those I plant them

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about like that.

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That's so good.

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Yeah. Do you want to go in that row

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Ben over there?

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There you go.

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Now, you plant them, let me show you

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something else, Josh.

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You plant them so that the growing

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end points up.

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Yep.

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The Chinese don't eat our onions,

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if they would grow that far.

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So is that good spacing though?

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Yeah, that's about right, that about

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right.

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Okay

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And it's very tedious and

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back-breaking.

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But just think of how good those

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onions are going to taste.

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Can you hear the grains?

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There's a grub worm.

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Just throw him out of there.

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That's a Grub Worm.

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Save him for fishing.

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He won't save.

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Throw him away.

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See this is the fresh, this is a new

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area that we just plowed so

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that's why we're planting those

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ones.

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And there's another whole sack of

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them, so we're going to have about

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four rows, I suppose, of onions, or

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more than that.

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You have all different kinds, or are

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they?

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No, they're all white onions and

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they'll get to be about this

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big around.

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Yeah, they'll really do well.

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Alright, here's another bag.

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That's a bunch.

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That's working well.

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It's a real back breaker.

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I can't hardly do it anymore.

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That's what we're here for.

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Ha ha ha ha!

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Hey, there's an onion over here.

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What? There's an Onion over there.

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Onion got into the potatoes,

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now they go well with potatoes.

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This is grandma plant onions dad.

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What we need

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next is we're going to start

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planting potatoes.

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How are you spacing them?

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Thank you very much.

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We're going deeper, or here?

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This one done? Hold on.

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It's got to be that deep.

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I'm not going to do it like that at

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You've got to make a hole right

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there.

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That'll do it.

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That good? Yep.

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Now about a foot or so.

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A foot? 12, 14 inches.

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There you go. OK.

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Another one.

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And then you just repeat

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that again

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and again.

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Out of here.

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For the end of the summary of Old

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Bayside.

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Don't you think you'll have a lot of

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grass growing?

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Not a bit seriously

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Steve's got the rotor tiller under

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control

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You guys get to run

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the hole, that'll take care of it.

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How deep you want them?

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About, not too deep, about like

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that, about 2 inches,

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3 maybe,

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don't do them too deep.

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Well, there's sort of a ditch,

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but it's got to be that 8 by 10

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gallon.

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You're going to have to take it.

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Yeah, well, I don't know if it's

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worth it.

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See you.

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I'll know.

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They're coming!

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that's nice.

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So it's pretty, uh,

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that's the plan also.

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Oh, yeah.

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The other one

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Well this um

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these two ponds at one time ran

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together.

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Really? Do you see this right here?

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I can see yeah and and

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and if you look over here look

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over here man you see it

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would have come see you can just

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about see where it came right

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through here.

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Through here. With that little hump

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from them.

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dead tree that fell over, yeah.

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But just think now how high

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the ponds would have been for

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them to come, for those two to run

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together.

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And coming right to this.

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And did I tell you guys that

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at one time,

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when this was Menominee Indian

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Country, and then shortly

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after when the Fersellers came in,

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the Menominees were trapped

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in Adams County, Thanks for the

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watch. Let's hold that.

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Right over there last time

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We'll go over there.

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It takes direction around, doesn't

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it?

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We'll go where the...

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Okay, are we ready?

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Yeah, okay anytime

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It is a nice thing.

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It's a very nice day.

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Fawn's looking good.

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One of the things that's interesting

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is the pond is up more

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this year and I

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expect that to be a lot of snow, but

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it really is nice.

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So when do you think everything's

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gonna start?

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Well, it's really late.

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I'll bet we're two weeks late

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because ordinarily

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you begin to see some

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budding.

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You see a little on the maple right

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there, see that?

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Yeah, that maple tree has some

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flowers and the maples usually

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flower earlier than the

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oaks. What's interesting about the

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oak, and this is an

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old thing that my dad taught me,

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when the oak leaf is the size

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of a squirrel's

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the other side of the squirrel's

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ear.

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Then it's time to plant your corn.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, so you check,

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first off, you have to know the size

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of a squirrel's ears.

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That's if you don't know that.

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That must have been pretty small. If
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don't know that, you're lost.

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But you check the

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old tree, and when it's about that

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big around, that's the time to

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plan your corn, yeah.

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And that's really kind of

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interesting because my dad never

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paid any attention to the calendar.

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He was...

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It's always based off that, huh?

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Yeah, it's a natural kind of thing.

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So, what do you think?

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Is it time?

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Well, we're a long ways from seeing

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an oak leaf.

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See, there's a white oak tree right

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in front of us, right there.

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And you see any anything except

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an odd leaf left over from

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last fall.

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There's nothing there.

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But OK, you guys, this is a quiz

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now.

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Right behind you.

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What does that look like?

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That, uh, oak?

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No.

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It's a black cherry.

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Oh, the black bear over there.

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You'd know him for you.

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We could just tell by looking at it.

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What about that one over there,

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Josh? Right there.

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God, that's so exciting.

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I see a white oak and

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a black oak, it looks right straight

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ahead, right on there, see that tree

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right there?

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What do you think that is?

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Right there.

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I'm talking about the big one.

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Another one right there.

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Is that an oak

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as well? Yeah, it's a white oaks,

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see? See, there are two

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main categories of oaks.

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black oaks and they have,

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the black oak family has

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pointed leaves.

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And the round oak.

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The white oak family has rounded

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leaves.

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So in the white

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oak family you have white oak and

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burro. We have natural here in the

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farm.

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And in the black oak family, you

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have black oak and red oak.

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So now you know.

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How can you tell the difference

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without any leaves though?

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Well, it's tricky.

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It really is, but after you've done

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it for well, you can,

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you pretty much can.

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And then one of the things that I

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like to do,

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we don't, a lot of the stuff we don

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t do anything with.

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You see that tree right out there?

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It looks like it's falling down,

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big rotten hole in it.

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Well, that's an example

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of a tree where

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a raccoon may find itself a

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home.

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That's more likely.

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Birds mating? Yeah, all kinds of

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stuff. Woodcutters love that kind of

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a tree. People want to...

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A lot of people want to clear cut

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everything, keep all the trash down,

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get all the dead wood, and

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I don't do that.

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We do cut wood for firewood,

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but we leave a lot of it here, and

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it just naturally decays

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and new stuff comes up, and that's

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kind of interesting to see the

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progression of it all.

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It's very interesting.

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But I wanted to tell you the story

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about this very location where

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we are, right here.

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You guys want to change angles at

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all?

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Is that the round oak?

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Is that what the tables are made

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from?

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That is correct.

293
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We had a round oak heater.

294
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Cool.

295
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That's right.

296
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Yeah, yeah.

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You guys ready?

298
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Farm that we're standing on

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this very patch of ground

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is 10,000 years old.

301
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How do I know that?

302
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That's when the last glacier

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retreated and

304
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we happen to be standing where

305
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the terminal marine

306
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the end of the glacier.

307
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That's why it's so hilly and there

308
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are a lot of stones here and the

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ponds interestingly enough the

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pons were big chunks

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of ice left

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over from the glacier And

313
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when the ice melted, it

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dropped down, and that formed

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the ponds.

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And in the eastern part of the

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state, they're called kettle ponds,

318
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we just call them ponds

319
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or water table ponds and

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the pons are an indicator

321
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of the water table because

322
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if you want to know what the water

323
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table is, that's it, up and down.

324
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Well, the history of this place now.

325
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10,000 years ago, there was nothing

326
00:15:58,680 --> 00:15:59,779
here.

327
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Glacier. It's crept everything.

328
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There are no trees, nothing except

329
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ice.

330
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When the ice began melting

331
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and formed Glacial Lake Wisconsin

332
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just to the west of here,

333
00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,779
this land was left behind hilly

334
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and stony and with these ponds

335
00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,239
and slowly

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the vegetation came back.

337
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,299
And then I don't know how 20,000s of

338
00:16:22,300 --> 00:16:24,799
years ago, but some

339
00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,219
number, the Native Americans

340
00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:29,099
came into

341
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:30,100
this country.

342
00:16:31,790 --> 00:16:34,009
By many, many years

343
00:16:34,010 --> 00:16:35,849
later, 1848, for

344
00:16:35,850 --> 00:16:37,929
example, this was still Menominee

345
00:16:37,930 --> 00:16:38,930
Indian country.

346
00:16:40,050 --> 00:16:41,969
And that's when the last treaty with

347
00:16:41,970 --> 00:16:43,009
the Menominees was signed.

348
00:16:44,010 --> 00:16:45,829
What was interesting, this

349
00:16:45,830 --> 00:16:47,329
very place where we're standing,

350
00:16:49,030 --> 00:16:50,989
the Menomonies traveled

351
00:16:50,990 --> 00:16:52,969
from their trapping grounds

352
00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:55,189
in Adams County through

353
00:16:55,190 --> 00:16:57,429
this very land, right here,

354
00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:59,229
to Berlin, which is on the Fox

355
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River, where there was a trading

356
00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:01,139
post.

357
00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:03,339
And they camped, I suspect,

358
00:17:03,340 --> 00:17:04,799
right up in here.

359
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,838
We need to do some digging to find

360
00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:07,919
arrowheads.

361
00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,858
How many have you found?

362
00:17:09,859 --> 00:17:11,079
Well, I haven't found any.

363
00:17:13,910 --> 00:17:16,009
See arrowheads don't respond to

364
00:17:16,010 --> 00:17:17,149
a metal detector because they're not

365
00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:19,129
metal, but the

366
00:17:19,130 --> 00:17:21,749
person who was here before had

367
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:23,789
a whole pail full that they found

368
00:17:23,790 --> 00:17:25,489
of arrowheads.

369
00:17:25,490 --> 00:17:27,469
Now one of the stories that I

370
00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:28,470
learned,

371
00:17:29,570 --> 00:17:30,729
the person who owned this place

372
00:17:30,730 --> 00:17:32,849
ahead of us, the Combses,

373
00:17:32,850 --> 00:17:34,689
Mrs. Combs was in her 80s when I

374
00:17:34,690 --> 00:17:37,109
was probably 16,

375
00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:39,549
and I would come down here,

376
00:17:39,550 --> 00:17:41,209
her son worked for us as a hired

377
00:17:41,210 --> 00:17:42,939
man. I would bring him home and she

378
00:17:42,940 --> 00:17:45,279
would tell me stories about

379
00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,019
how the Monomonies would travel

380
00:17:47,020 --> 00:17:48,939
through here and would come up

381
00:17:48,940 --> 00:17:50,959
to the house and

382
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359
trade, want to trade,

383
00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,419
maple syrup and maple

384
00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:57,359
sugar for salt

385
00:17:57,360 --> 00:17:59,259
because they were always short of

386
00:17:59,260 --> 00:18:00,199
salt.

387
00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,719
And I thought she was just telling

388
00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,899
me a story, I really did.

389
00:18:03,900 --> 00:18:05,959
And then when I did some historical

390
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,359
digging on this property and

391
00:18:08,360 --> 00:18:10,729
looked at the first survey record.

392
00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:13,229
I found on that first survey

393
00:18:13,230 --> 00:18:15,169
map, which was drawn

394
00:18:15,170 --> 00:18:16,650
in 1851,

395
00:18:18,090 --> 00:18:19,829
a squiggly little line and the

396
00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:21,689
surveyor had written, Indian

397
00:18:21,690 --> 00:18:23,179
Trail.

398
00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:23,909
Right through here.

399
00:18:23,910 --> 00:18:26,029
Yeah, I mean, it's unbelievable

400
00:18:26,030 --> 00:18:27,929
how that she

401
00:18:27,930 --> 00:18:29,769
was not spoofing me at

402
00:18:29,770 --> 00:18:32,409
all. She was telling me exactly what

403
00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:34,729
she remembered

404
00:18:34,730 --> 00:18:37,109
as a little girl.

405
00:18:37,110 --> 00:18:38,469
So there are lots of stories.

406
00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:39,509
One of the interesting things is

407
00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:41,429
every piece of land has

408
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:43,249
a story to tell.

409
00:18:43,250 --> 00:18:44,649
You just got to know how to look for

410
00:18:44,650 --> 00:18:46,129
it.

411
00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:48,109
And the story is in the trees,

412
00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:50,049
the story in the land, The

413
00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:52,009
story is in the when we're looking

414
00:18:52,010 --> 00:18:54,029
at where these two ponds

415
00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:55,389
maybe went together.

416
00:18:55,390 --> 00:18:57,469
And it's such fun to stand and

417
00:18:57,470 --> 00:18:59,369
wonder, now what's

418
00:18:59,370 --> 00:19:00,749
this land trying to tell me?

419
00:19:02,290 --> 00:19:03,589
And sometimes you come up with

420
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:05,449
exactly the wrong answer, but

421
00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:07,489
it gives you a starting

422
00:19:07,490 --> 00:19:08,289
place.

423
00:19:08,290 --> 00:19:10,128
And that's why it's kind of fun

424
00:19:10,129 --> 00:19:11,689
to be walking around in the woods

425
00:19:11,690 --> 00:19:13,429
and looking at the land and trying

426
00:19:13,430 --> 00:19:15,469
to find out what's

427
00:19:15,470 --> 00:19:16,649
it trying to me?

428
00:19:16,650 --> 00:19:19,589
And it has a great story to tell.

429
00:19:19,590 --> 00:19:20,909
We've got to learn how to listen.

430
00:19:20,910 --> 00:19:21,789
We don't know how to to listen to

431
00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:22,919
the land.

432
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,079
Sounds a little corny, but that's

433
00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,080
what we have to do.

434
00:19:30,410 --> 00:19:32,369
Just don't pretend to do anything.

435
00:19:32,370 --> 00:19:33,489
I don't know what to do with my
hands,

436
00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:34,490
Ricky Bobby.

437
00:19:38,740 --> 00:19:39,679
Just have it come natural.

438
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,019
How's my hair look, Josh?

439
00:19:41,020 --> 00:19:42,339
Oh, it's flowing in the wind.

440
00:19:42,340 --> 00:19:43,340
Haha

441
00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:47,089
Just think this way man,

442
00:19:47,090 --> 00:19:48,549
nobody under 40 looks at these

443
00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:49,550
things anyway.

444
00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:56,130
Alright, here we go,

445
00:19:57,150 --> 00:19:59,389
alright you guys go ahead,

446
00:19:59,390 --> 00:20:00,909
I'll stop you and we'll talk about

447
00:20:00,910 --> 00:20:01,910
some stuff.

448
00:20:06,270 --> 00:20:07,849
Big tree right here.

449
00:20:07,850 --> 00:20:09,449
Yeah I think this is a I think

450
00:20:09,450 --> 00:20:10,669
that's what this is I think this is

451
00:20:10,670 --> 00:20:12,509
where a tree fell over and

452
00:20:12,510 --> 00:20:14,489
it made this home.

453
00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:15,689
But you can see you can see clearly

454
00:20:15,690 --> 00:20:16,849
where they're right here there had

455
00:20:16,850 --> 00:20:19,589
to be a stream coming out where the

456
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:21,869
where the water must have run and

457
00:20:21,870 --> 00:20:23,309
I need to see some of the see the

458
00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:25,629
stones that are left over from

459
00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:26,589
the glacier.

460
00:20:26,590 --> 00:20:27,689
Oh yeah.

461
00:20:27,690 --> 00:20:29,369
That kind of interesting.

462
00:20:29,370 --> 00:20:31,009
Up in the field there's some really

463
00:20:31,010 --> 00:20:31,719
big ones.

464
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,479
You said they call it a kettle pond

465
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:34,359
in the eastern part?

466
00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:35,739
Is that why they got the name kettle

467
00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:36,740
moraine? Is that what that's?

468
00:20:36,741 --> 00:20:38,300
That's exactly right, that's exactly

469
00:20:41,980 --> 00:20:43,519
So now here, see that's a cherry

470
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,359
tree, see the black cherry

471
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,579
tree. And the way that you can tell

472
00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:49,519
in comparison

473
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:50,959
with an oak tree, just look at the

474
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,779
difference now in the

475
00:20:52,780 --> 00:20:53,669
bark, you see this?

476
00:20:53,670 --> 00:20:55,059
Yeah, it looks more flaky.

477
00:20:55,060 --> 00:20:57,399
Well, yeah, and it is.

478
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,339
And black cherries, really, is a

479
00:20:59,340 --> 00:21:00,799
nice tree.

480
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,219
And we've got them just growing all

481
00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:03,460
over the place down here, naturally.

482
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,939
And see that big old black oak right

483
00:21:05,940 --> 00:21:06,940
there?

484
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,979
And another one on the other side.

485
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,779
Oh, these stones. And see here, here

486
00:21:12,780 --> 00:21:13,939
are the examples of when the

487
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:14,959
westerly wind comes through and

488
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,000
knocks over these trees.

489
00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:18,339
Really? When does that?

490
00:21:18,340 --> 00:21:19,619
Yeah, it sure does.

491
00:21:19,620 --> 00:21:20,599
Lightning or something?

492
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,660
No, it doesn't even need lightning.

493
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,779
Let's just close them over.

494
00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:26,579
So what caused that tree over there

495
00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:27,560
to break in half?

496
00:21:27,561 --> 00:21:29,479
Well, I think it just got old.

497
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,069
Sold in general.

498
00:21:30,070 --> 00:21:31,489
And well maybe more than that you

499
00:21:31,490 --> 00:21:33,829
see the top blew off oh yeah

500
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:35,329
which killed it and that was a huge

501
00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:37,149
huge tree but just just

502
00:21:37,150 --> 00:21:38,289
look at size of some of these oaks

503
00:21:38,290 --> 00:21:39,489
look at the size of that black oak

504
00:21:39,490 --> 00:21:41,549
and look up in the top see the

505
00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:43,089
wind took the top out of that tree

506
00:21:43,090 --> 00:21:44,090
too

507
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,659
That one's got, so that

508
00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:48,619
tree has those little

509
00:21:48,620 --> 00:21:49,620
berries on them.

510
00:21:50,430 --> 00:21:52,589
But what you're seeing now is,

511
00:21:52,590 --> 00:21:54,449
see this is a maple right here.

512
00:21:54,450 --> 00:21:55,179
See this one right here?

513
00:21:55,180 --> 00:21:56,539
So those are the buds, right?

514
00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:57,759
Yeah, you're seeing, yeah, they all

515
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,659
look like the same thing. And see,
those are

516
00:21:58,660 --> 00:21:59,669
m-

517
00:21:59,670 --> 00:22:01,309
The flowers come out early, so those

518
00:22:01,310 --> 00:22:04,129
are the flowers in the maple tree.

519
00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:05,270
Let's go further down here.

520
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:09,609
Here's your badge roll.

521
00:22:09,610 --> 00:22:11,529
Yeah, well now you see

522
00:22:11,530 --> 00:22:13,009
this is kind of interesting because

523
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:14,249
though see though.

524
00:22:14,250 --> 00:22:15,769
This is really fascinating because

525
00:22:15,770 --> 00:22:17,269
you see the tree is blown over

526
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:18,229
Yeah, but it's still growing.

527
00:22:18,230 --> 00:22:18,450
Still growing.

528
00:22:18,451 --> 00:22:20,989
And this is a different part.

529
00:22:20,990 --> 00:22:21,990
See that?

530
00:22:22,550 --> 00:22:23,970
And these are its roots.

531
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:26,390
It's just really interesting.

532
00:22:28,410 --> 00:22:29,709
It's hanging in there.

533
00:22:29,710 --> 00:22:30,969
And it does.

534
00:22:30,970 --> 00:22:32,409
It's a maple, you see?

535
00:22:32,410 --> 00:22:33,889
And so that part of it's pretty much

536
00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:35,429
dead, but there's another part of

537
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:36,909
growing there.

538
00:22:36,910 --> 00:22:38,349
So here we've got this tree and that

539
00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:40,469
tree, and they both came from

540
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:42,349
the original tree, which is a dead

541
00:22:42,350 --> 00:22:43,429
tree.

542
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:44,489
Hey, I got a question for you.

543
00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:45,729
Yes.

544
00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:47,569
Would a black oak tree,

545
00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:48,869
would their roots combine with a

546
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:50,429
different type of tree?

547
00:22:50,430 --> 00:22:52,409
You mean in, in, like

548
00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:53,249
intertwined?

549
00:22:53,250 --> 00:22:54,289
Yeah, well they do, but I don't

550
00:22:54,290 --> 00:22:55,669
think there's any, any change of

551
00:22:55,670 --> 00:22:56,729
genetics if that's what you're

552
00:22:56,730 --> 00:22:58,109
asking. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think

553
00:22:58,110 --> 00:23:00,749
so. But the, this kind of stuff,

554
00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:02,129
the story behind this would be

555
00:23:02,130 --> 00:23:03,489
really interesting because a big

556
00:23:03,490 --> 00:23:05,189
windstorm would have come through

557
00:23:05,190 --> 00:23:07,669
here, tipped that tree over,

558
00:23:07,670 --> 00:23:09,489
but didn't quite tear out the roots.

559
00:23:10,650 --> 00:23:12,089
Still kept going? And so this kept

560
00:23:12,090 --> 00:23:13,129
going. And that's a pretty good

561
00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:13,929
sized tree now.

562
00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:14,829
Yeah.

563
00:23:14,830 --> 00:23:16,369
And people say, well, there's this

564
00:23:16,370 --> 00:23:17,499
tree and that tree.

565
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:19,939
It's the same tree, it's the tree,

566
00:23:19,940 --> 00:23:21,259
so is this one.

567
00:23:21,260 --> 00:23:22,559
So that kind of stuff is interesting

568
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:23,560
to me.

569
00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:25,979
Alright, now we're coming down by

570
00:23:25,980 --> 00:23:27,819
the pond and we'll see

571
00:23:27,820 --> 00:23:29,599
what we can see here.

572
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,539
I think this pond has

573
00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,819
a pair of

574
00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:35,739
geese nesting

575
00:23:35,740 --> 00:23:36,740
on it.

576
00:23:38,850 --> 00:23:40,569
In fact, there was a nest right over

577
00:23:40,570 --> 00:23:41,749
here at one time, but it may have

578
00:23:41,750 --> 00:23:43,589
flooded out when the

579
00:23:43,590 --> 00:23:44,590
water came up.

580
00:23:45,739 --> 00:23:47,059
Do geese just pair?

581
00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:48,319
Are they just pairs when they come

582
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:49,699
and nest? Or do they have like lots

583
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:49,700
of?

584
00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:51,299
You know what's interesting about

585
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:52,619
Canada geese,

586
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,719
that a lot of people don't
understand,

587
00:23:56,220 --> 00:23:58,019
they pair for life.

588
00:23:58,020 --> 00:23:58,979
Really?

589
00:23:58,980 --> 00:24:00,419
They're monogamous.

590
00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:02,299
They're really interesting in that

591
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:03,799
respect, different from ducks.

592
00:24:04,860 --> 00:24:06,079
Now you see some of the big stones

593
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,719
left over from the glacier laying

594
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,119
all over the place here?

595
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,379
There's a big one.

596
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:12,219
And there's a, that's

597
00:24:12,220 --> 00:24:13,859
a volunteer Scotch pine.

598
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,119
Yeah, which is kind of invasive

599
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:19,439
because that's not native here.

600
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,099
Scotch pines were brought into the

601
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:23,459
area as for Christmas trees

602
00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:25,519
and then they

603
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:26,919
escaped.

604
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,960
I was trying to see

605
00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:31,089
There was a right off in there some

606
00:24:31,090 --> 00:24:32,090
places where the.

607
00:24:34,290 --> 00:24:36,149
Canada goose nest was, and I think

608
00:24:36,150 --> 00:24:37,150
it may have flooded out.

609
00:24:44,620 --> 00:24:47,299
You see the maples,

610
00:24:47,300 --> 00:24:48,239
see the red on the maple?

611
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:49,240
It's really cool.

612
00:24:58,140 --> 00:24:59,619
Well, this is a side.

613
00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:01,539
These are side questions behind

614
00:25:01,540 --> 00:25:02,679
the scenes. These are questions

615
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,879
beyond the.

616
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,880
I can redo it.

617
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:10,119
Yeah, Cosmos,

618
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,120
near the grass side.

619
00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:13,010
Okay, you guys ready?

620
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:17,559
We're talking about the Canada

621
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,659
geese that nest

622
00:25:19,660 --> 00:25:21,919
here and right

623
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,999
over that way is where

624
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,939
the female goose was

625
00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:27,819
on the nest and the male was

626
00:25:27,820 --> 00:25:28,959
in the pond.

627
00:25:30,820 --> 00:25:32,239
The reason we knew there was a nest

628
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,379
is the male wouldn't fly up,

629
00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:35,380
he just stayed there.

630
00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:38,019
What do they do to build the nest?

631
00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:39,759
Oh, they use grass and twigs.

632
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,220
So they gather it.

633
00:25:40,221 --> 00:25:41,299
You know what we're looking at right

634
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:43,459
now? That's where a beaver works.

635
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:44,379
See that right there?

636
00:25:44,380 --> 00:25:45,260
That little pile of brush.

637
00:25:45,261 --> 00:25:47,479
Oh yeah. A couple of years ago,

638
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,319
and you think beavers are really

639
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,099
smart.

640
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:51,899
They're not so bright, I feel.

641
00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:53,399
Because they were gonna build a dam

642
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,119
across this pond for whatever reason

643
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:56,019
I have. Really?

644
00:25:56,020 --> 00:25:57,599
I have, I do not know.

645
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,459
So multiple beavers or just one?

646
00:25:59,460 --> 00:26:00,259
Well they're a whole bunch of them.

647
00:26:00,260 --> 00:26:01,529
They damn the whole thing?

648
00:26:01,530 --> 00:26:03,129
Well, it only got that far and then

649
00:26:03,130 --> 00:26:04,749
they decided that this was a lost

650
00:26:04,750 --> 00:26:06,689
hope and they went on to

651
00:26:06,690 --> 00:26:07,409
some other pond.

652
00:26:07,410 --> 00:26:08,529
So it would be the point of damming

653
00:26:08,530 --> 00:26:09,389
this pond.

654
00:26:09,390 --> 00:26:11,129
Well, they thought it was running

655
00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:11,949
water, you see.

656
00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:13,589
And if you dam it, then the water

657
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:14,869
would come up higher and all would

658
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:15,870
be well.

659
00:26:17,170 --> 00:26:18,569
And I could just hear the discussion

660
00:26:18,570 --> 00:26:20,429
that they said, you know, Dad,

661
00:26:20,430 --> 00:26:21,369
I think you screwed up.

662
00:26:21,370 --> 00:26:23,029
This is not the place to be.

663
00:26:23,030 --> 00:26:24,069
Let's try the other pond.

664
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:25,269
So they went over there and cut down

665
00:26:25,270 --> 00:26:26,609
a bunch of my trees.

666
00:26:26,610 --> 00:26:28,009
They tried to build a dam.

667
00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:29,189
And then they left the country.

668
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:30,609
I don't know where they went.

669
00:26:30,610 --> 00:26:31,709
They left.

670
00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:32,809
They left, they left.

671
00:26:32,810 --> 00:26:34,109
Okay, let me ask you a question,

672
00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:36,129
guys. Do you see what looks like a

673
00:26:36,130 --> 00:26:38,189
kind of a strange thing in

674
00:26:38,190 --> 00:26:39,209
the water? What do you think that

675
00:26:39,210 --> 00:26:40,029
is?

676
00:26:40,030 --> 00:26:40,969
A log?

677
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:42,309
Looks like a log, doesn't it?

678
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:43,889
It's not a log.

679
00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:45,369
Looks really strange.

680
00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:46,829
It's a pond lily.

681
00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:47,849
Oh, really?

682
00:26:47,850 --> 00:26:49,089
Yeah, those are the roots of a pond

683
00:26:49,090 --> 00:26:50,249
lilly.

684
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:52,649
The roots? Yeah, and they're

685
00:26:52,650 --> 00:26:54,489
strange looking, but it's all kind

686
00:26:54,490 --> 00:26:55,490
of scaly,

687
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:58,659
but that's what it is.

688
00:26:58,660 --> 00:26:59,939
Yeah, like additional logs.

689
00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:01,499
So is that extending that into the

690
00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:02,000
water? Oh, sure.

691
00:27:02,001 --> 00:27:03,209
Oh sure, oh sure.

692
00:27:03,210 --> 00:27:05,089
Yeah, and by July,

693
00:27:05,090 --> 00:27:08,169
August there'll be all kinds of

694
00:27:08,170 --> 00:27:10,149
flowers and great big leaves

695
00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:11,229
on the pond valley.

696
00:27:12,370 --> 00:27:13,809
So what else do we see around here?

697
00:27:13,810 --> 00:27:15,829
Well you can see where

698
00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:17,849
the pond a few years ago, you can

699
00:27:17,850 --> 00:27:18,850
see where it was.

700
00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:21,020
Mm-hmm.

701
00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:24,869
I don't want to be looking at your

702
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:25,870
face.

703
00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:28,359
Well, then we're going to start

704
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:30,779
looking this way. Yeah, we can just,

705
00:27:30,780 --> 00:27:32,759
we really are ready to look this

706
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,760
way!

707
00:27:35,780 --> 00:27:37,239
You guys are always a step behind

708
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:38,240
here. What's going on?

709
00:27:42,639 --> 00:27:45,099
We want to capture the,

710
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,499
I don't know how you want to film it

711
00:27:46,500 --> 00:27:48,439
if you do, but those maples

712
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,779
now are in early spring bloom,

713
00:27:50,780 --> 00:27:51,880
that's the red that you see.

714
00:27:54,620 --> 00:27:55,799
Which is kind of interesting.

715
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,179
And you asked before, why on

716
00:27:59,180 --> 00:28:00,539
the top?

717
00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:01,819
Well, that's where it gets more

718
00:28:01,820 --> 00:28:03,139
sunlight. Yeah.

719
00:28:03,140 --> 00:28:05,319
And then it works its way down.

720
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,159
And the maple, that that's

721
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,239
really a flower.

722
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,179
The maple flower comes out first.

723
00:28:10,180 --> 00:28:12,459
And then the leaves will follow.

724
00:28:12,460 --> 00:28:14,399
And by the, in a normal

725
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:15,799
season, it probably will be late

726
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,659
this year, by the middle of

727
00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,479
this month, May, usually the leaves

728
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,199
are coming out.

729
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,869
But the flower.

730
00:28:21,870 --> 00:28:22,789
Absorb any light, right?

731
00:28:22,790 --> 00:28:23,790
That's just...

732
00:28:24,130 --> 00:28:26,329
Well, if you look at them up close,

733
00:28:26,330 --> 00:28:27,349
it's the flower,

734
00:28:28,630 --> 00:28:30,729
and it's where the

735
00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:32,219
maple seed is.

736
00:28:32,220 --> 00:28:33,879
So do the maples, they stop right

737
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,880
there or?

738
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,579
It looks that way, doesn't it?

739
00:28:36,580 --> 00:28:37,679
No, they go around the corner a

740
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,499
little bit. But that side hill is

741
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,299
not.

742
00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:41,179
Apparently, well, there's one over

743
00:28:41,180 --> 00:28:42,399
there. There's two, three over

744
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,559
there, but that

745
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,599
side hills mostly oak.

746
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,599
Well, we have in here such a

747
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,819
collection of white

748
00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:52,639
oak, we've cherry,

749
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,579
black oak, aspen,

750
00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:55,580
birch,

751
00:28:56,639 --> 00:28:59,019
many different species.

752
00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:02,509
I wish that I knew where the...

753
00:29:02,510 --> 00:29:04,129
Sandhill crane was nesting because

754
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:06,769
they they nest on this pond as well,

755
00:29:06,770 --> 00:29:08,669
but we're probably talking too long

756
00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:10,629
Do they nest in pairs like the

757
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:11,659
geese?

758
00:29:11,660 --> 00:29:13,599
They do, and a question that

759
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,880
I've not been able to answer,

760
00:29:15,980 --> 00:29:17,839
and I think it's true that

761
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,859
the pair of Sandhills will come

762
00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:22,219
back to the same spot where

763
00:29:22,220 --> 00:29:23,639
they were the previous year.

764
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,219
They just know where to come.

765
00:29:25,220 --> 00:29:27,079
And they winter way down

766
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,739
in Texas.

767
00:29:28,740 --> 00:29:30,039
How do they know?

768
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,359
You want to study that, you say

769
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,360
that?

770
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,519
Do they migrate in a group or in

771
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:35,849
pairs?

772
00:29:35,850 --> 00:29:37,929
They migrate in groups.

773
00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:39,989
The Sandhills in

774
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:41,829
the fall, you can

775
00:29:41,830 --> 00:29:43,729
sometimes drive by a field and there

776
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:45,749
will be a hundred of them.

777
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:47,889
And they're all getting together

778
00:29:47,890 --> 00:29:49,629
and preparing to migrate.

779
00:29:49,630 --> 00:29:50,630
But your earlier question,

780
00:29:51,770 --> 00:29:54,269
which of those Sandhils

781
00:29:54,270 --> 00:29:56,209
decides that this is the

782
00:29:56,210 --> 00:29:58,169
day that we're going to

783
00:29:58,170 --> 00:29:59,269
fly?

784
00:29:59,270 --> 00:30:01,229
Nobody knows that.

785
00:30:01,230 --> 00:30:03,139
And that is a fascinating question.

786
00:30:03,140 --> 00:30:05,339
Because there is a

787
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:06,439
sand hill in charge.

788
00:30:09,490 --> 00:30:11,169
Well, I don't know if you'd call it

789
00:30:11,170 --> 00:30:13,129
that, but it's true, and you don't

790
00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:14,269
know who it is.

791
00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:15,599
Same thing with the Canada's.

792
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,319
And they all know how to come back

793
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,449
and meet with each other too.

794
00:30:18,450 --> 00:30:20,509
Well, in fact,

795
00:30:20,510 --> 00:30:22,909
we were we were camping one time in

796
00:30:22,910 --> 00:30:25,749
the marsh south of Wautoma.

797
00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:27,669
My son, your uncle, Jeff and

798
00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:29,569
I, and we spent the night

799
00:30:29,570 --> 00:30:32,029
in the Marsh in October when

800
00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:34,229
the Sandhills were migrating.

801
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:36,289
I mean, it was like a family

802
00:30:36,290 --> 00:30:37,149
reunion.

803
00:30:37,150 --> 00:30:37,929
We couldn't sleep.

804
00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:39,849
They were talking all night.

805
00:30:39,850 --> 00:30:41,449
How's your summer, Mabel?

806
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:43,409
Pretty good. How about yours,

807
00:30:43,410 --> 00:30:44,410
John?

808
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:46,919
I mean that's what I think there is.

809
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,159
How are the young ones?

810
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,918
Hottie did pretty well.

811
00:30:49,919 --> 00:30:51,779
Yeah, and here they

812
00:30:51,780 --> 00:30:53,799
all are going through,

813
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,759
they're just making, they've got to

814
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,879
be saying something to each other.

815
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,679
Yeah, they're, yeah.

816
00:30:58,680 --> 00:30:59,819
Like, I wonder how the chips going

817
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:01,199
to be this year.

818
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,219
It's getting cold.

819
00:31:02,220 --> 00:31:03,220
What we did last year.

820
00:31:03,860 --> 00:31:05,139
Well, and the Canada's are the same

821
00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:06,340
way. Yeah, do they all?

822
00:31:06,341 --> 00:31:07,299
Do they all have a meeting spot

823
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:07,300
together?

824
00:31:07,301 --> 00:31:09,119
And then why is

825
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,879
it? How do they know?

826
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,539
When there's a pair nesting here,

827
00:31:12,540 --> 00:31:13,379
there's a pair of nesting over

828
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:14,739
there, how do they in October,

829
00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:16,639
November? It's time to

830
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,959
get together and even

831
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,899
more, to form a V

832
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,859
to fly

833
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:23,860
south.

834
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,399
And one of the things that I still

835
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,819
enjoy very much is

836
00:31:28,820 --> 00:31:31,319
the geese coming and going.

837
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,079
I know everything is right with the

838
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,379
world.

839
00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:35,899
When the geese are flying in the

840
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:37,719
spring, flying south in

841
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,099
the fall. When they quit flying,

842
00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,759
they're like the canary in the mine,

843
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:41,779
I think.

844
00:31:41,780 --> 00:31:43,499
If we don't see the gees flying

845
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:45,419
north and south, that's something

846
00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:47,239
that's wrong with the

847
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:48,019
environment.

848
00:31:48,020 --> 00:31:50,039
Something else has changed along

849
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,459
the way.

850
00:31:51,460 --> 00:31:54,459
Almost all of the Canada geese

851
00:31:54,460 --> 00:31:56,699
flew over this area further

852
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,599
north into Canada.

853
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,399
And now there's a goodly number that

854
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:01,400
nest.

855
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,079
They don't work in Madison or a lot

856
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:03,919
of places.

857
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:04,920
They're in their past,

858
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:07,799
golf courses and that sort of thing.

859
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,659
Out here, I tell you, I really

860
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:11,599
enjoy them because sometimes you

861
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,439
come down here on this pond

862
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,399
and just sit for an hour

863
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,399
and you hear them

864
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,580
talking to each other,

865
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:20,519
the pair.

866
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,239
I don't know what they talk about.

867
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,319
I suspect they're worried about

868
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,719
the eggs are gonna hatch and all

869
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,099
that sort thing, but they do and

870
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:29,999
you'll hear them honking

871
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:30,829
when they're flying.

872
00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:33,189
But when they're on the

873
00:32:33,190 --> 00:32:34,729
water, they're like chickens.

874
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:35,929
They're just talking to each other,

875
00:32:35,930 --> 00:32:37,409
just kind of cackling.

876
00:32:37,410 --> 00:32:38,410
That's kind of interesting.

877
00:32:41,510 --> 00:32:43,229
That's all I know right now about

878
00:32:43,230 --> 00:32:44,279
this topic.

879
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,259
Okay.

880
00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:46,539
It's

881
00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:48,879
Don't worry, we're

882
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,479
going to

883
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,519
have to bring my stand.

884
00:32:54,670 --> 00:32:56,489
These interviews are only a couple

885
00:32:56,490 --> 00:32:58,559
hours, so are you ready?

886
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,560
No, these aren't things.

887
00:33:02,570 --> 00:33:04,409
We won't even get a whole tank going

888
00:33:04,410 --> 00:33:06,049
here.

889
00:33:06,050 --> 00:33:07,050
So,

890
00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:10,229
tell me about Whispers and Shadows

891
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:12,049
and walk in with your

892
00:33:12,050 --> 00:33:13,050
dad.

893
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,399
One of the interesting things that I

894
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,539
experienced as a kid

895
00:33:18,540 --> 00:33:20,359
was my father was one

896
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,099
who was curious about

897
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:24,100
a lot of things,

898
00:33:25,020 --> 00:33:26,879
especially was he curious about the

899
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:27,880
out of doors.

900
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,679
And his way of

901
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,539
showing me the out of

902
00:33:32,540 --> 00:33:34,379
doors was not to hand me

903
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:36,879
a book and say read this,

904
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,839
but his style was to

905
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,779
come along with me and we're

906
00:33:40,780 --> 00:33:42,179
going to take a walk today.

907
00:33:43,590 --> 00:33:45,729
And these walks happen generally

908
00:33:45,730 --> 00:33:47,789
on Sunday afternoons,

909
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,689
because we were farm people,

910
00:33:49,690 --> 00:33:51,109
and there was farm work to do all

911
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:52,589
week long.

912
00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:53,989
So on Sunday afternoon,

913
00:33:55,010 --> 00:33:57,289
almost every Sunday afternoon from

914
00:33:57,290 --> 00:33:59,109
April clear on through

915
00:33:59,110 --> 00:34:00,989
November, in fact we would do

916
00:34:00,990 --> 00:34:02,429
some of this even when there was

917
00:34:02,430 --> 00:34:04,769
snow on the ground, we would walk.

918
00:34:04,770 --> 00:34:06,809
But the summer walks and

919
00:34:06,810 --> 00:34:08,669
the fall walks were the ones

920
00:34:08,670 --> 00:34:10,589
of most interest to me, and

921
00:34:10,590 --> 00:34:12,289
the ones that I remember most

922
00:34:12,290 --> 00:34:13,178
vividly.

923
00:34:13,179 --> 00:34:14,999
We would, our farm was 160

924
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,839
acres.

925
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,879
That's two miles around,

926
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,138
quarter mile on a side.

927
00:34:20,139 --> 00:34:22,479
And we would start

928
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279
by looking at the farm crops.

929
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,259
And we'd check the old crop and the

930
00:34:27,260 --> 00:34:29,079
corn crop and the hay crop

931
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,879
and pasture.

932
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,459
And we check as to whether or not

933
00:34:32,460 --> 00:34:34,198
the cows had enough to eat for the

934
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,919
next while in the pasture.

935
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,859
And we walk along the fence

936
00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:38,860
rows.

937
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,158
And in those days the fences were

938
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:42,159
all divided.

939
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,579
Into 20-acres or 10-acre

940
00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:46,580
spots.

941
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,218
And the fence rows where the

942
00:34:49,219 --> 00:34:51,079
wire fence was is where we stacked

943
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,999
the stones, because

944
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,819
our farm was

945
00:34:54,820 --> 00:34:56,959
a stony, hilly,

946
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:57,960
sandy farm.

947
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,439
And in those stone piles,

948
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,559
in those fence rows,

949
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,819
we would walk slowly,

950
00:35:06,820 --> 00:35:08,539
and we would keep our mouths shut.

951
00:35:08,540 --> 00:35:10,679
My dad was a stickler

952
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,219
for walking slowly.

953
00:35:13,220 --> 00:35:14,220
And quietly.

954
00:35:15,820 --> 00:35:18,179
And in those stone piles

955
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:21,039
we would see, we call them gophers,

956
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,859
thirteen-striped ground

957
00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:25,179
squirrels to be more official.

958
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:26,159
That's where they lived.

959
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,139
The rabbits lived there.

960
00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:28,539
There were jack rabbits in those

961
00:35:28,540 --> 00:35:30,239
days and we would find jack rabbits.

962
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,979
There were foxes that lived in the

963
00:35:31,980 --> 00:35:34,419
fence. There were bluebirds in

964
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,079
the hollow fence posts.

965
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,299
And there were bobble links

966
00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:40,539
singing.

967
00:35:40,540 --> 00:35:41,850
And we saw all that.

968
00:35:42,950 --> 00:35:44,409
And we walked along.

969
00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:46,049
My dad would say, do you know what

970
00:35:46,050 --> 00:35:47,089
that is?

971
00:35:47,090 --> 00:35:49,209
I said, I don't know what it is.

972
00:35:49,210 --> 00:35:50,210
That's a gopher.

973
00:35:51,930 --> 00:35:54,169
Sometimes we'd carry a rifle when

974
00:35:54,170 --> 00:35:55,249
we were doing this.

975
00:35:55,250 --> 00:35:57,709
My dad hated gophers.

976
00:35:57,710 --> 00:35:59,589
They got into the corn and

977
00:35:59,590 --> 00:36:01,409
they rooted up the corn and

978
00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:03,029
they killed the corn plant.

979
00:36:03,030 --> 00:36:04,989
And sometimes this does not

980
00:36:04,990 --> 00:36:06,689
sound very polite.

981
00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:08,989
We were out to shoot the gophars.

982
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:11,029
That was some of my first experience

983
00:36:11,030 --> 00:36:12,549
with a .22 rifle.

984
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:14,130
Going after the Gophers.

985
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,539
Finish our walk around

986
00:36:18,540 --> 00:36:20,479
the property, looking at the crops,

987
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,339
and then my dad would say, we should

988
00:36:22,340 --> 00:36:23,460
take another walk.

989
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Sometimes we would walk as far as

990
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,319
two miles in one direction.

991
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,259
Where we're sitting right here,

992
00:36:31,260 --> 00:36:33,139
right now, we would have walked as

993
00:36:33,140 --> 00:36:34,299
far.

994
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:35,979
Because my dad knew about these

995
00:36:35,980 --> 00:36:36,980
ponds.

996
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,219
And whenever there's a pond, there's

997
00:36:39,220 --> 00:36:40,220
something special.

998
00:36:41,980 --> 00:36:43,399
And we would come down to one of

999
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:44,699
these ponds, right where we are

1000
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:45,700
right now.

1001
00:36:46,660 --> 00:36:48,479
And we would sit down,

1002
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:49,679
lean against a tree,

1003
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,759
and my dad again would

1004
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,119
admonish me to say nothing,

1005
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,199
just to sit quietly.

1006
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,619
And sometimes it would take a half

1007
00:36:59,620 --> 00:37:01,979
an hour of sitting quietly

1008
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,699
before the squirrels would come out,

1009
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:06,879
sometimes a rabbit, sometimes

1010
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,799
a crow, and at

1011
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,459
the pond, a can of the goose, maybe.

1012
00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:13,459
Or a wood duck, or a mallard

1013
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:14,460
duck.

1014
00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:16,639
And he might whisper to me, do you

1015
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,899
know what that is?

1016
00:37:17,900 --> 00:37:19,999
Oh, it's a mallar duck.

1017
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,519
Oh, really, got a nest on there.

1018
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:28,049
One of the things that he said that

1019
00:37:28,050 --> 00:37:29,129
I've never forgotten,

1020
00:37:30,410 --> 00:37:32,390
he said, what you need to do,

1021
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:34,809
if you really want to understand

1022
00:37:34,810 --> 00:37:35,810
nature,

1023
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,809
is not pay so much attention

1024
00:37:38,810 --> 00:37:39,929
to what everybody else pays

1025
00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:41,829
attention to, to

1026
00:37:41,830 --> 00:37:44,029
loud noises and the stuff that's

1027
00:37:44,030 --> 00:37:45,729
easily seen.

1028
00:37:45,730 --> 00:37:48,029
He said, learn how to

1029
00:37:48,030 --> 00:37:50,409
listen for the whispers.

1030
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:53,449
Listen for what is not

1031
00:37:53,450 --> 00:37:54,830
ordinarily heard.

1032
00:37:56,250 --> 00:37:57,489
Listen carefully,

1033
00:37:58,550 --> 00:38:00,429
because you will hear a

1034
00:38:00,430 --> 00:38:03,049
part of nature that

1035
00:38:03,050 --> 00:38:04,829
is profoundly different from the

1036
00:38:04,830 --> 00:38:06,849
loud noises, nothing wrong with the

1037
00:38:06,850 --> 00:38:08,969
loud noise that nature makes,

1038
00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:10,469
but to have the complete picture,

1039
00:38:12,350 --> 00:38:14,989
you need to hear the quiet

1040
00:38:14,990 --> 00:38:16,669
whispers, and sometimes those quiet

1041
00:38:16,670 --> 00:38:18,509
whispers have far more

1042
00:38:18,510 --> 00:38:20,369
to say to you

1043
00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:22,209
than the loud voices.

1044
00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:23,670
And the second thing he said

1045
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:27,209
Don't just look where the bright

1046
00:38:27,210 --> 00:38:28,409
light shines.

1047
00:38:30,430 --> 00:38:32,610
Learn to look in the shadows.

1048
00:38:34,150 --> 00:38:35,929
Because it's in the shadow that

1049
00:38:35,930 --> 00:38:38,429
there's a whole other world.

1050
00:38:38,430 --> 00:38:40,489
It's in these shadows that

1051
00:38:40,490 --> 00:38:42,129
things occur that most of us don't

1052
00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:44,109
even think about.

1053
00:38:44,110 --> 00:38:47,189
Learn to look in the shadows

1054
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:49,869
and listen for the whispers

1055
00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:51,909
because the extent to which you do

1056
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:53,869
that is the extent

1057
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:55,349
to which you will come.

1058
00:38:55,350 --> 00:38:57,789
To know nature,

1059
00:38:57,790 --> 00:39:00,129
know far more

1060
00:39:00,130 --> 00:39:01,969
important than simply

1061
00:39:01,970 --> 00:39:03,409
becoming acquainted with.

1062
00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:08,069
Further, the extent

1063
00:39:08,070 --> 00:39:10,029
he would say to me, the extent

1064
00:39:10,030 --> 00:39:12,029
to which you know something

1065
00:39:12,030 --> 00:39:14,989
and know it deeply

1066
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:16,969
is the extent of which you

1067
00:39:16,970 --> 00:39:18,949
will take care of it.

1068
00:39:18,950 --> 00:39:20,409
I've never forgotten that.

1069
00:39:20,410 --> 00:39:22,349
Whether it's an old barn, a field of

1070
00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:24,369
corn, or an

1071
00:39:24,370 --> 00:39:26,389
oak woods, the

1072
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:28,449
extend to which you know it

1073
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:30,548
is the extend of which

1074
00:39:30,549 --> 00:39:32,249
you will care of that.

1075
00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:34,469
That's a powerful message and

1076
00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:35,670
I've never forgotten it.

1077
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,979
Why was it important for him to

1078
00:39:39,980 --> 00:39:40,980
know nature?

1079
00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:45,559
That my dad's

1080
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,039
knowledge of nature was

1081
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,379
something I think that was just a

1082
00:39:49,380 --> 00:39:50,719
part of him.

1083
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,219
I could never, I've never been able

1084
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:54,539
to figure out really

1085
00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:57,319
why he had this interest other than

1086
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,399
he was a farmer,

1087
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,739
he had limited formal education,

1088
00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:02,740
fifth grade.

1089
00:40:03,820 --> 00:40:05,719
Something else he always said, just

1090
00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:07,179
because you have a lot of education

1091
00:40:07,180 --> 00:40:09,039
doesn't mean you know anything.

1092
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,379
He told me that often.

1093
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:11,549
It told me all.

1094
00:40:11,550 --> 00:40:13,169
As the years went along, he kept

1095
00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:14,170
telling me that.

1096
00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:18,149
But why it was that he

1097
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:20,209
became so

1098
00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:22,209
interested in knowing,

1099
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:24,069
as I described it before, knowing

1100
00:40:24,070 --> 00:40:25,969
nature, I think has something to do

1101
00:40:25,970 --> 00:40:27,530
with the fact that he was a farmer.

1102
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:31,129
And he depended on the land,

1103
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:32,969
and he knew that nature was of the

1104
00:40:32,970 --> 00:40:33,970
land.

1105
00:40:34,410 --> 00:40:35,489
He wouldn't talk about it.

1106
00:40:35,490 --> 00:40:37,069
He wouldn't say it. These are not

1107
00:40:37,070 --> 00:40:38,349
his words.

1108
00:40:38,350 --> 00:40:39,729
You had to watch him.

1109
00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:41,789
And you had to see him

1110
00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:42,790
in what he did.

1111
00:40:44,970 --> 00:40:46,869
That to me was,

1112
00:40:46,870 --> 00:40:48,769
well, I can't, I don't know

1113
00:40:48,770 --> 00:40:50,069
why.

1114
00:40:50,070 --> 00:40:51,709
Other than he just did.

1115
00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:53,629
He grew up, of course, under

1116
00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:55,649
very primitive circumstances.

1117
00:40:55,650 --> 00:40:58,389
Went to a log cabin school and

1118
00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:00,309
lived on a, my

1119
00:41:00,310 --> 00:41:02,229
grandfather was a cook in

1120
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:04,229
the logging camps and

1121
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:06,050
he was a terrible farmer.

1122
00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:08,809
But my, so my dad had to do a lot of

1123
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:10,629
the farm work as soon as he was

1124
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:11,629
able to.

1125
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:14,629
But he had this appreciation.

1126
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:15,969
And there's another dimension to it

1127
00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:16,809
too, I think.

1128
00:41:16,810 --> 00:41:18,329
It sounds a little strange.

1129
00:41:18,330 --> 00:41:19,929
Elder Leopold knew this.

1130
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:20,930
He was also a hunter.

1131
00:41:23,190 --> 00:41:25,069
He hunted not because it

1132
00:41:25,070 --> 00:41:27,109
was a recreational thing to do.

1133
00:41:27,110 --> 00:41:28,349
The gophers were a pest.

1134
00:41:28,350 --> 00:41:29,709
You got rid of them because they

1135
00:41:29,710 --> 00:41:30,669
were a problem.

1136
00:41:30,670 --> 00:41:32,629
But we hunted squirrels and

1137
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:35,089
rabbits and

1138
00:41:35,090 --> 00:41:36,409
rough groves.

1139
00:41:36,410 --> 00:41:38,269
We called them partridges and

1140
00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:40,089
pheasants and deer.

1141
00:41:40,090 --> 00:41:41,889
And we ate them.

1142
00:41:41,890 --> 00:41:43,609
It was part of our diet.

1143
00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:45,489
So he knew nature as

1144
00:41:45,490 --> 00:41:48,129
something, well, if you're

1145
00:41:48,130 --> 00:41:50,269
going to hunt a squirrel, you better

1146
00:41:50,270 --> 00:41:51,759
know something about.

1147
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,800
The characteristics of a squirrel.

1148
00:41:55,140 --> 00:41:56,399
And if you're gonna hunt rabbits,

1149
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,219
you better know something about

1150
00:41:57,220 --> 00:41:58,299
that.

1151
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,939
And so part of it was you

1152
00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:03,099
just needed to know the

1153
00:42:03,100 --> 00:42:05,119
background of these creatures

1154
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,339
in order to

1155
00:42:07,340 --> 00:42:09,159
hunt successfully.

1156
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,339
He also appreciated so much

1157
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:12,340
trees.

1158
00:42:12,980 --> 00:42:14,819
Oh, he was a great lover of trees.

1159
00:42:14,820 --> 00:42:16,659
Some of that was practical.

1160
00:42:16,660 --> 00:42:18,599
We heated our farmhouse with wood

1161
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,899
stoves.

1162
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:21,479
And I learned about when I was three

1163
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,699
years old, I knew the difference

1164
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:24,679
between a white oak and a black

1165
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,599
oak and a white pine and a red pine

1166
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,519
and a birch tree, because each one

1167
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,699
of them has a very

1168
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,119
different characteristic when you

1169
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,199
put it in a wood stove.

1170
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,999
And of course, my job as a kid was

1171
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,719
carrying wood into the house, always

1172
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:39,039
for the wood box.

1173
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,619
And he would say, now look, we've

1174
00:42:40,620 --> 00:42:42,699
got to have the oak in this pile and

1175
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:43,999
the pine wood goes in a different

1176
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,599
pile because that's kindling wood.

1177
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,599
And what's kindle wood?

1178
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,459
Well, it burns faster than odd.

1179
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:50,399
So he knew trees from a

1180
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,299
practical perspective,

1181
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:54,259
but he also,

1182
00:42:54,260 --> 00:42:56,039
indeed, these are not his words.

1183
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,219
He just loved to sit under,

1184
00:42:58,220 --> 00:42:59,979
as we're sitting here today, to sit

1185
00:42:59,980 --> 00:43:02,239
underneath a tree and listen,

1186
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,139
and listen to it, as I was

1187
00:43:04,140 --> 00:43:06,059
explaining earlier.

1188
00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:08,279
Listen to it talk to you

1189
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,779
because every tree,

1190
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:12,719
just like the land has a message,

1191
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:14,659
it sounds corny, the land as

1192
00:43:14,660 --> 00:43:16,400
a message that it wants you to hear.

1193
00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:20,139
A tree talks to you

1194
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:22,479
in a language of the tree,

1195
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,839
but it's speaking.

1196
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,219
It's speaking, and listen

1197
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:28,419
carefully, because its

1198
00:43:28,420 --> 00:43:30,859
message is

1199
00:43:30,860 --> 00:43:33,239
a very fascinating one.

1200
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,539
And the red pine and the white pine

1201
00:43:35,540 --> 00:43:37,739
and the aspen each speak

1202
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,740
differently.

1203
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,619
The aspen is all excited

1204
00:43:41,620 --> 00:43:43,639
and the leaves flutter.

1205
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,899
And the white pine has a

1206
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:47,779
soothing, quiet

1207
00:43:47,780 --> 00:43:48,780
message.

1208
00:43:49,740 --> 00:43:52,379
I learned all this from my father,

1209
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:53,899
way back, before I even started

1210
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:54,939
school.

1211
00:43:54,940 --> 00:43:56,899
These are the sorts of lessons that

1212
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:58,159
he taught.

1213
00:43:58,160 --> 00:43:59,899
He didn't call them lessons.

1214
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:01,199
He didn't say I want you to learn

1215
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,679
this as an educational experience.

1216
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,099
That was not his vocabulary.

1217
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,279
He didn't know any of that stuff.

1218
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,459
He just wanted me to know,

1219
00:44:08,460 --> 00:44:09,539
he wanted, let's say it differently,

1220
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,119
he wanted to share what he knew.

1221
00:44:13,020 --> 00:44:15,079
And his way of sharing was to

1222
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,319
show me.

1223
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,159
And he would quiz me all the time.

1224
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,979
What kind of tree is that?

1225
00:44:19,980 --> 00:44:21,999
I just told you last week,

1226
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,379
that is a black oak.

1227
00:44:23,380 --> 00:44:25,219
Remember this, that's a black Oak.

1228
00:44:25,220 --> 00:44:26,919
And what's a Black Oak good for?

1229
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,999
I don't know about it.

1230
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,559
It's good for firewood.

1231
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,899
It's Good for lumber.

1232
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:32,799
Oh, really? And we did

1233
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,699
that again and again.

1234
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:36,619
Well, after about the 50th time,

1235
00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:39,139
slow learners like me catch on.

1236
00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:40,059
And we said, that the Black Oak.

1237
00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:41,119
Yeah, that right. Now what about

1238
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,619
that one? And we go to the next

1239
00:44:42,620 --> 00:44:43,620
tree.

1240
00:44:44,690 --> 00:44:45,369
What's that good?

1241
00:44:45,370 --> 00:44:46,370
Yeah, really.

1242
00:44:47,530 --> 00:44:50,389
So it's like it was all

1243
00:44:50,390 --> 00:44:52,729
a harvest, but it was reciprocal.

1244
00:44:52,730 --> 00:44:54,369
I mean, you lived off of these

1245
00:44:54,370 --> 00:44:56,209
things, but you also had to do

1246
00:44:56,210 --> 00:44:58,189
your part to sustain

1247
00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:58,549
it.

1248
00:44:58,550 --> 00:45:00,509
There really was a

1249
00:45:00,510 --> 00:45:02,349
very much give and take back

1250
00:45:02,350 --> 00:45:03,789
and forth.

1251
00:45:03,790 --> 00:45:06,109
As strange as it sounds,

1252
00:45:06,110 --> 00:45:08,789
we respected everything

1253
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:10,649
that was a practical part of

1254
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:12,289
our life. We respected the squirrels

1255
00:45:12,290 --> 00:45:14,109
and the rabbits and the black

1256
00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:15,809
oak and the white oak.

1257
00:45:15,810 --> 00:45:17,349
And we nourished them when we took

1258
00:45:17,350 --> 00:45:19,049
care of them and all of the rest of

1259
00:45:19,050 --> 00:45:20,949
it. And at the same time, we also

1260
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:21,869
harvested them.

1261
00:45:21,870 --> 00:45:23,389
So it was a back and for.

1262
00:45:23,390 --> 00:45:25,549
It sounds a little strange, but it

1263
00:45:25,550 --> 00:45:26,679
was.

1264
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,619
I come back to it this way, we have

1265
00:45:28,620 --> 00:45:30,019
always, my dad never said this, but

1266
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:32,079
he knew, and he helped me know that

1267
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:33,179
we're all a part of nature.

1268
00:45:33,180 --> 00:45:34,599
We're all apart of what's going on

1269
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,219
here. We're not apart from it.

1270
00:45:36,220 --> 00:45:37,919
It's not all out there to serve us

1271
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,219
without us helping it back.

1272
00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:41,559
We are all in it together.

1273
00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:52,869
Is that tripod in your shot?

1274
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,319
I'll see you in a little bit, yes,

1275
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,320
yes.

1276
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,969
Yeah, it is.

1277
00:46:00,970 --> 00:46:01,970
Hey, Butch!

1278
00:46:04,180 --> 00:46:06,179
But, I'm

1279
00:46:06,180 --> 00:46:07,180
gonna have to move the tripod,

1280
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:09,900
thank you.

1281
00:46:11,490 --> 00:46:13,089
And I would never be able to do this

1282
00:46:13,090 --> 00:46:14,090
over again in a hundred years.

1283
00:46:15,410 --> 00:46:16,309
Nice. Great.

1284
00:46:16,310 --> 00:46:17,319
Ha, ha, ha.

1285
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,759
What else did I tell you we were

1286
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,760
going to talk about?

1287
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,399
I don't have my crib nose right

1288
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:22,400
here.

1289
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:24,700
I do.

1290
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:26,099
In fact, I was going out.

1291
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:27,259
I didn't have time to even look at

1292
00:46:27,260 --> 00:46:28,119
it. No, I don't t.

1293
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:29,559
I was gonna share it with those

1294
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,039
guys. I don t have mine.

1295
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,879
We talked about listening

1296
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,219
to your dad,

1297
00:46:35,220 --> 00:46:37,459
we talked about listening,

1298
00:46:37,460 --> 00:46:38,409
which we talked to them about.

1299
00:46:38,410 --> 00:46:40,169
Yeah, I think you probably have done

1300
00:46:40,170 --> 00:46:41,170
it.

1301
00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:46,289
You know the whispers and shadows

1302
00:46:46,290 --> 00:46:48,369
part is

1303
00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:50,669
I'm very intrigued with that idea

1304
00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:52,489
because it's a metaphor for so

1305
00:46:52,490 --> 00:46:54,369
much of what goes on today, oh my

1306
00:46:54,370 --> 00:46:55,370
gosh.

1307
00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:57,669
And I don't know how to subtly do to

1308
00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:59,289
build that into such a program as

1309
00:46:59,290 --> 00:47:01,889
this but it goes way beyond

1310
00:47:01,890 --> 00:47:03,110
association with nature.

1311
00:47:06,540 --> 00:47:08,359
Well, yeah, I

1312
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,839
understand what

1313
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,979
you call it, the land or

1314
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:13,980
the mother earth.

1315
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,799
And the idea of

1316
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,639
being able to listen to the

1317
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,839
land and listen

1318
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,679
to a tree and all

1319
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,819
of that is as practical

1320
00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:29,219
today as it ever was.

1321
00:47:34,609 --> 00:47:36,729
Alright, I need help up, obviously.

1322
00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:37,730
Yeah, I'm ready.

1323
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,339
If we don't know who you are,

1324
00:47:43,340 --> 00:47:44,809
why don't you tell me?

1325
00:47:44,810 --> 00:47:45,359
Who I am.

1326
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,439
Your name and your relationship

1327
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,839
to Jerry.

1328
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,159
My name is Josh Horman.

1329
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,199
I am the grandson of Jerry

1330
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,119
Yaps, and I am

1331
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,959
currently a junior undergraduate

1332
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,499
student at the University of

1333
00:47:58,500 --> 00:47:59,500
Wisconsin.

1334
00:48:00,710 --> 00:48:02,229
And what are you studying?

1335
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:04,389
I'm studying sociology and

1336
00:48:04,390 --> 00:48:06,629
geography with environmental

1337
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:07,989
studies.

1338
00:48:07,990 --> 00:48:10,329
So three things all fit into one.

1339
00:48:10,330 --> 00:48:12,269
Does that have anything to do with

1340
00:48:12,270 --> 00:48:13,719
walking with your granddad?

1341
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:15,839
Yes it does.

1342
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,059
I remember being out here when I was

1343
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:20,439
a little boy and doing

1344
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,059
similar types of walks that

1345
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:25,039
my grandpa Jerry had when he was

1346
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,339
little as well. So I think that his

1347
00:48:27,340 --> 00:48:29,319
experience influenced my

1348
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,659
decision making and doing

1349
00:48:31,660 --> 00:48:33,339
environmental studies and being a

1350
00:48:33,340 --> 00:48:35,259
part of nature.

1351
00:48:35,260 --> 00:48:37,179
I like being out there.

1352
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:39,959
It kind of gets you free from

1353
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,639
the city environment and you get

1354
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:42,779
a...

1355
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:44,479
As he says, listen to the earth

1356
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,999
speak, listen to land speak.

1357
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,959
And it is, I like it, I enjoy

1358
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,819
being out here.

1359
00:48:49,820 --> 00:48:51,979
It gets me like, I'm

1360
00:48:51,980 --> 00:48:53,839
free from my

1361
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,199
schoolwork, my just

1362
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,219
worries that I had at home.

1363
00:48:58,220 --> 00:49:00,279
So it's very, very

1364
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,209
peaceful.

1365
00:49:01,210 --> 00:49:02,869
Do you think it was different for

1366
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:04,709
you growing

1367
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:07,369
up in the city and

1368
00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:09,529
then coming out here as to

1369
00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:11,549
him growing up on the farm

1370
00:49:11,550 --> 00:49:13,159
and taking the work.

1371
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:14,699
Yeah, as he would describe, I'm a

1372
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,679
city kid, so I didn't have to go

1373
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,639
through the labor, the hard work,

1374
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,459
I guess, at some points.

1375
00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:22,519
I mean, I not always getting down

1376
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,299
and dirty planting crops.

1377
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:25,979
I'm not doing that.

1378
00:49:25,980 --> 00:49:27,599
I have everything readily available

1379
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,399
for me living in the city, but so

1380
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,559
coming out here, it's

1381
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,879
a different experience where I

1382
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,679
get to appreciate it, I guess more

1383
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,539
from being

1384
00:49:37,540 --> 00:49:38,639
like living in this city.

1385
00:49:41,290 --> 00:49:43,529
And do you see any difference in

1386
00:49:43,530 --> 00:49:45,289
you and your peers?

1387
00:49:45,290 --> 00:49:46,149
Either.

1388
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:48,209
Yeah, I

1389
00:49:48,210 --> 00:49:50,109
think I appreciate nature more

1390
00:49:50,110 --> 00:49:52,009
and I'm big at

1391
00:49:52,010 --> 00:49:54,449
keeping it clean and

1392
00:49:54,450 --> 00:49:56,389
keeping it preserved and I don't

1393
00:49:56,390 --> 00:49:57,649
think a lot of people appreciate

1394
00:49:57,650 --> 00:49:59,029
that because they don't ever get the

1395
00:49:59,030 --> 00:50:00,869
experience to come out and be

1396
00:50:00,870 --> 00:50:02,529
a part of nature and get to see

1397
00:50:02,530 --> 00:50:04,449
everything around us.

1398
00:50:04,450 --> 00:50:06,149
So I don t think that appreciation

1399
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:08,149
is there and that's why sometimes

1400
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:10,289
it worries me that

1401
00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:12,149
nature can be threatened in the

1402
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:14,409
future with threats of.

1403
00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:16,729
Climate change or pollution or

1404
00:50:16,730 --> 00:50:17,730
stuff like that.

1405
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:20,559
So how many times do you think he'll

1406
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:21,939
have to ask you what kind of tree

1407
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:22,940
that is before?

1408
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,359
Uh, you know, it'll take me a while.

1409
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,679
I'm not so good at the trees.

1410
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,839
Besides, I know only

1411
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,760
birch is the one I can tell.

1412
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,919
But, besides that, it's pretty hard

1413
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,799
for me to do that.

1414
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,619
But, yeah, that's good.

1415
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:38,579
I like the quizzes.

1416
00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:39,759
It keeps me on my toes.

1417
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,760
This is not fair.

1418
00:50:41,540 --> 00:50:42,599
It's really not.

1419
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,840
It's not at all.

1420
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,839
You know, a lot of times people just

1421
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,299
think that trees are all the same,

1422
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:50,419
but you know, really they are.

1423
00:50:50,420 --> 00:50:51,539
They have a purpose.

1424
00:50:51,540 --> 00:50:52,519
You know they have their own

1425
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,659
characteristics and it's

1426
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:55,660
good to know.

1427
00:50:56,890 --> 00:50:59,249
So what's your favorite part about,

1428
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:01,049
I mean, is there a favorite?

1429
00:51:01,050 --> 00:51:03,209
Is it the wildlife or the flowers

1430
00:51:03,210 --> 00:51:05,269
or the trees or the

1431
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:06,329
birds?

1432
00:51:06,330 --> 00:51:07,429
Or what do you find yourself

1433
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:08,869
attracted to?

1434
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:10,689
You know, I think

1435
00:51:10,690 --> 00:51:12,589
my favorite part is

1436
00:51:12,590 --> 00:51:14,409
usually like the pond area.

1437
00:51:14,410 --> 00:51:15,569
I mean, I always remember coming

1438
00:51:15,570 --> 00:51:17,049
down to the ponds because that's

1439
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:18,489
where all the wildlife gathers.

1440
00:51:18,490 --> 00:51:19,449
That's where everything comes

1441
00:51:19,450 --> 00:51:20,369
together.

1442
00:51:20,370 --> 00:51:22,149
And I think I enjoy just kind of

1443
00:51:22,150 --> 00:51:23,689
sitting near the pond and listening

1444
00:51:23,690 --> 00:51:25,569
to you have birds meet

1445
00:51:25,570 --> 00:51:27,349
there. You have little frogs.

1446
00:51:27,350 --> 00:51:29,010
You have, you know, every once in a

1447
00:51:29,011 --> 00:51:30,309
while you can see the fish swimming

1448
00:51:30,310 --> 00:51:31,389
through.

1449
00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:33,229
So I think being close to

1450
00:51:33,230 --> 00:51:35,469
water, I like that part of

1451
00:51:35,470 --> 00:51:36,539
nature.

1452
00:51:36,540 --> 00:51:37,979
When's your birthday?

1453
00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:39,799
My birthday is September

1454
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,659
19th, I was born

1455
00:51:41,660 --> 00:51:42,660
in 1992.

1456
00:51:46,260 --> 00:51:47,260
Oh yeah,

1457
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,799
I'm a Virgo, so I

1458
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,179
don't really know.

1459
00:51:52,180 --> 00:51:53,399
That's a question for my grandma,

1460
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,840
she reads the horoscopes every day.

1461
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,939
So what would you like to do

1462
00:52:00,940 --> 00:52:01,940
as a career?

1463
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,979
You know, I can see myself working

1464
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:07,179
for a government organization

1465
00:52:07,180 --> 00:52:09,139
or even just kind of

1466
00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:10,599
like a non-profit.

1467
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,619
I'm actually considering doing even

1468
00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:14,939
like law to be

1469
00:52:14,940 --> 00:52:17,079
a part of protecting the existing

1470
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,819
policies that we have to keep nature

1471
00:52:18,820 --> 00:52:20,339
preserved.

1472
00:52:20,340 --> 00:52:22,239
I hope that it can be like this

1473
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,099
for my kids and my grandkids because

1474
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:26,159
this is

1475
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:26,939
who we are.

1476
00:52:26,940 --> 00:52:28,179
This is how we survive.

1477
00:52:28,180 --> 00:52:29,939
Everything is involved and

1478
00:52:29,940 --> 00:52:31,489
intertwined with nature.

1479
00:52:31,490 --> 00:52:34,689
I think it's not as high

1480
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:36,789
as a priority as it should be,

1481
00:52:36,790 --> 00:52:38,929
and I think that's important.

1482
00:52:38,930 --> 00:52:40,749
So tell me about in

1483
00:52:40,750 --> 00:52:42,550
school when Jerry talks about.

1484
00:52:44,580 --> 00:52:46,439
You know, his dad didn't

1485
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,239
have him a book and say look at that

1486
00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:49,240
nature.

1487
00:52:51,150 --> 00:52:53,449
Do you find that it's

1488
00:52:53,450 --> 00:52:55,269
a different kind of learning, taking

1489
00:52:55,270 --> 00:52:56,469
walks and watching?

1490
00:52:56,470 --> 00:52:57,470
Yeah.

1491
00:52:57,850 --> 00:52:59,929
I think, well, the biggest thing now

1492
00:52:59,930 --> 00:53:01,889
is, like, with my age and my

1493
00:53:01,890 --> 00:53:03,169
group, I mean, if we want to know

1494
00:53:03,170 --> 00:53:04,689
something, we can just, you know,

1495
00:53:04,690 --> 00:53:06,349
Google it. And so I think a lot of

1496
00:53:06,350 --> 00:53:07,909
times we have all this information,

1497
00:53:07,910 --> 00:53:09,169
yet we don't really use it.

1498
00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:11,089
We don't get out into, like actually

1499
00:53:11,090 --> 00:53:12,569
being a part, like we'll search

1500
00:53:12,570 --> 00:53:14,409
nature on Google, but people

1501
00:53:14,410 --> 00:53:15,889
don't go out there and actually go

1502
00:53:15,890 --> 00:53:17,349
see nature. And I think that's

1503
00:53:17,350 --> 00:53:19,429
important. And I we know

1504
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:21,169
a lot, but we don t do a lot with

1505
00:53:21,170 --> 00:53:22,389
that knowledge.

1506
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:24,389
So I think it's important to get

1507
00:53:24,390 --> 00:53:26,069
out there, see what it's really

1508
00:53:26,070 --> 00:53:27,369
like, rather than just on a computer

1509
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:28,509
screen.

1510
00:53:28,510 --> 00:53:30,369
Yeah, good way in nature,

1511
00:53:30,370 --> 00:53:31,749
isn't quite as helpful.

1512
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:33,649
As picking up the leaves, getting

1513
00:53:33,650 --> 00:53:34,910
the feel, the touch,

1514
00:53:36,009 --> 00:53:38,549
it's all right there and

1515
00:53:38,550 --> 00:53:40,029
you know it's just not the same.

1516
00:53:40,030 --> 00:53:41,009
You don't get the smells, you don't

1517
00:53:41,010 --> 00:53:42,189
get the noises.

1518
00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:44,169
I mean you can hear bird noises on

1519
00:53:44,170 --> 00:53:45,149
the computer but it's not the the

1520
00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:47,149
same as being out here with

1521
00:53:47,150 --> 00:53:48,669
all the trees and getting to hear

1522
00:53:48,670 --> 00:53:50,369
the sounds of the water, the sounds

1523
00:53:50,370 --> 00:53:51,629
of the leaves crackling, the sound

1524
00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:52,849
of the wind. You do not get that

1525
00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:54,669
when you're just at home in front

1526
00:53:54,670 --> 00:53:55,869
of your computer, in front of the

1527
00:53:55,870 --> 00:53:56,709
TV.

1528
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:58,909
So it's more fulfilling

1529
00:53:58,910 --> 00:54:00,489
to be out with, uh...

1530
00:54:05,030 --> 00:54:06,030
Cool.

1531
00:54:13,530 --> 00:54:15,509
I think these gusts

1532
00:54:15,510 --> 00:54:17,569
have just been coming through,

1533
00:54:17,570 --> 00:54:20,449
so I think if we're patient and

1534
00:54:20,450 --> 00:54:24,149
just listen, it

1535
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:25,668
may take half an hour.

1536
00:54:25,669 --> 00:54:26,889
Yes, it's all about the waiting.

1537
00:54:41,529 --> 00:54:42,409
Okay? Okay.

1538
00:54:42,410 --> 00:54:43,469
Yeah. Okay.

1539
00:54:43,470 --> 00:54:45,649
So let's start like we did with

1540
00:54:45,650 --> 00:54:47,650
Josh and tell me your name.

1541
00:54:49,130 --> 00:54:50,509
I'm Ben Horman.

1542
00:54:50,510 --> 00:54:52,329
I go to James Madison Memorial High

1543
00:54:52,330 --> 00:54:53,330
School in Madison.

1544
00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:56,209
I'm currently a senior and I'm

1545
00:54:56,210 --> 00:54:57,729
going to attend the University of

1546
00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:59,629
Madison Wisconsin next

1547
00:54:59,630 --> 00:55:00,630
year.

1548
00:55:02,450 --> 00:55:03,999
Who's Jerry up?

1549
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,460
Jerry Apps is my grandfather.

1550
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:09,469
Do you remember, what's

1551
00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:11,809
your earliest memory of

1552
00:55:11,810 --> 00:55:12,889
walking around with him?

1553
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:15,999
My earliest memories up here

1554
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,859
are actually planning

1555
00:55:17,860 --> 00:55:19,779
the garden and taking

1556
00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:21,659
gator rides and walking around

1557
00:55:21,660 --> 00:55:23,539
up here learning about stuff that

1558
00:55:23,540 --> 00:55:25,399
I didn't really notice before back

1559
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,319
at my own house, about different

1560
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,239
trees, about the way

1561
00:55:29,240 --> 00:55:31,699
nature works outside of

1562
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:32,900
all human interaction.

1563
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,020
What do you find interesting?

1564
00:55:38,650 --> 00:55:40,609
Basically, it's just my curiosity

1565
00:55:40,610 --> 00:55:42,209
of how nature works in general

1566
00:55:42,210 --> 00:55:44,549
without any

1567
00:55:44,550 --> 00:55:46,629
human connection, basically.

1568
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:48,229
Just the fact that all this exists

1569
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:49,230
outside our.

1570
00:55:51,090 --> 00:55:52,409
Outside anybody's.

1571
00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:56,240
Anybody's like, contact with it, I

1572
00:55:56,241 --> 00:55:57,241
guess.

1573
00:55:57,900 --> 00:56:00,019
You think about the fact that

1574
00:56:00,020 --> 00:56:02,279
when your

1575
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,139
dad was

1576
00:56:04,140 --> 00:56:06,059
a little kid,

1577
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:08,499
half the people in this country

1578
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:09,779
lived on farms.

1579
00:56:09,780 --> 00:56:11,659
They didn't have direct contact with

1580
00:56:11,660 --> 00:56:13,999
nature, and now it's, what, 2%

1581
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,239
or something?

1582
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:16,240
5%?

1583
00:56:22,610 --> 00:56:23,769
Two percent, yeah.

1584
00:56:25,460 --> 00:56:26,460
It's a total flip.

1585
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,999
So just the idea that how

1586
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,879
far we've come from back when

1587
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,079
my grandfather was young,

1588
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,559
everybody was on farms, and now

1589
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,059
essentially less

1590
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:40,359
than 5%, 2% are

1591
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,459
now living on farms.

1592
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:44,059
And it's kind of disappointing,

1593
00:56:44,060 --> 00:56:45,939
honestly, that not as

1594
00:56:45,940 --> 00:56:47,899
many people are as intertwined with

1595
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:48,900
nature as.

1596
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:51,560
As they were.

1597
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:54,769
And do you find, when

1598
00:56:54,770 --> 00:56:56,609
you talk to people,

1599
00:56:56,610 --> 00:56:57,610
you know,

1600
00:56:58,630 --> 00:57:00,729
your classmates and

1601
00:57:00,730 --> 00:57:02,769
neighborhood kids and so on,

1602
00:57:02,770 --> 00:57:04,589
how many of them do you think have

1603
00:57:04,590 --> 00:57:06,409
any kind of contact with nature

1604
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:07,509
outside of the city?

1605
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:09,489
Yeah, honestly, probably not

1606
00:57:09,490 --> 00:57:10,309
many at all.

1607
00:57:10,310 --> 00:57:11,989
Whenever they think about going out

1608
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:13,929
to nature, they think of going to

1609
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:15,849
a resort or something, honestly.

1610
00:57:15,850 --> 00:57:17,769
Something just like a vacation.

1611
00:57:17,770 --> 00:57:19,369
Because when I say I'm going up to a

1612
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:21,169
farm, they don't really know what

1613
00:57:21,170 --> 00:57:23,149
that means in general.

1614
00:57:23,150 --> 00:57:25,109
So I'm saying I'm goin' up north,

1615
00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:27,289
I'm goin' to outdoors.

1616
00:57:27,290 --> 00:57:28,409
They just think I'm gonna go camping

1617
00:57:28,410 --> 00:57:31,149
in some campsite that's

1618
00:57:31,150 --> 00:57:33,289
still regulated and everything.

1619
00:57:33,290 --> 00:57:34,789
But no, I'm just walkin' around out

1620
00:57:34,790 --> 00:57:35,809
here, just learnin' about.

1621
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:39,759
Outdoors and it's really nice.

1622
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,799
Do you think that you

1623
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,819
find yourself just

1624
00:57:43,820 --> 00:57:45,319
walking around by yourself and

1625
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,739
looking at stuff and trying to

1626
00:57:46,740 --> 00:57:47,959
figure things out?

1627
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,839
Yeah, just even

1628
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,939
walking around the cabin

1629
00:57:51,940 --> 00:57:54,279
in general, just seeing a frog or

1630
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,639
seeing a caterpillar, wondering what

1631
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:56,919
it's doing, wondering where it's

1632
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,919
going, how it is

1633
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,199
related to everything else around

1634
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:01,200
it.

1635
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:05,149
Do you think he's always telling you

1636
00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:06,150
the truth?

1637
00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:09,739
He always has stories to tell,

1638
00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:11,659
he always talks about how different

1639
00:58:11,660 --> 00:58:12,959
animals are communicating in

1640
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,159
different ways, how they have their

1641
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,319
own little conversations going on,

1642
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,799
how their always thinking about what

1643
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,399
they're going to do and how their

1644
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,599
home life is between like

1645
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,600
geese and such.

1646
00:58:26,980 --> 00:58:28,939
And have you noticed that

1647
00:58:28,940 --> 00:58:31,309
the limiter is named Mabel?

1648
00:58:31,310 --> 00:58:32,310
Ha ha ha.

1649
00:58:36,779 --> 00:58:37,689
Haven't you noticed that?

1650
00:58:37,690 --> 00:58:39,149
Yeah, that always seems to be a

1651
00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:40,729
common theme throughout all the

1652
00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:41,829
stories.

1653
00:58:41,830 --> 00:58:43,489
Similar names, but different

1654
00:58:43,490 --> 00:58:44,739
species.

1655
00:58:44,740 --> 00:58:46,559
So, did I hear you're going into

1656
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:47,329
engineering?

1657
00:58:47,330 --> 00:58:49,549
Yeah, I'm thinking about going into

1658
00:58:49,550 --> 00:58:51,729
either specifically biomedical

1659
00:58:51,730 --> 00:58:53,189
engineering, so I'm just really

1660
00:58:53,190 --> 00:58:54,829
curious about biology in general and

1661
00:58:54,830 --> 00:58:56,789
about how the biology of

1662
00:58:56,790 --> 00:58:57,790
life works.

1663
00:58:58,970 --> 00:59:00,849
That even corresponds to

1664
00:59:00,850 --> 00:59:02,289
everything that's going on around us

1665
00:59:02,290 --> 00:59:04,349
right now, just how the trees are

1666
00:59:04,350 --> 00:59:05,849
growing, how they're blooming right

1667
00:59:05,850 --> 00:59:07,989
now since it's spring,

1668
00:59:07,990 --> 00:59:10,069
down to how the

1669
00:59:10,070 --> 00:59:12,169
tops of the trees bloom

1670
00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:13,809
first before the bottoms.

1671
00:59:13,810 --> 00:59:15,899
It's all very interesting to me.

1672
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:17,899
It goes back to the curiosity of

1673
00:59:17,900 --> 00:59:19,419
how, what my grandfather was talking

1674
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:21,479
about with his dad, about how,

1675
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,679
like learning about how nature

1676
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:23,719
works.

1677
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,579
I'm also really curious about

1678
00:59:25,580 --> 00:59:27,779
how biology works and

1679
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:29,739
solving unknown mysteries and the

1680
00:59:29,740 --> 00:59:31,719
mysteries that nature has into

1681
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:32,720
itself.

1682
00:59:33,780 --> 00:59:35,169
There are lessons everywhere.

1683
00:59:35,170 --> 00:59:37,049
Exactly, it's almost

1684
00:59:37,050 --> 00:59:38,509
an infinite amount of knowledge that

1685
00:59:38,510 --> 00:59:40,529
you can actually get from

1686
00:59:40,530 --> 00:59:42,229
nature just by walking around out

1687
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:44,169
here, more than you can learn in

1688
00:59:44,170 --> 00:59:45,749
a classroom by far.

1689
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:47,069
More than you could learn by walking

1690
00:59:47,070 --> 00:59:48,070
around out here.

1691
00:59:50,370 --> 00:59:52,149
It just keeps going.

1692
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:53,729
You're learning more and more and

1693
00:59:53,730 --> 00:59:54,730
seeing more.

1694
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:57,949
That's how you think you'll be doing

1695
00:59:57,950 --> 00:59:59,278
more walks with it.

1696
00:59:59,279 --> 01:00:00,399
Oh, definitely.

1697
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,459
As long as I try

1698
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:04,359
it out here probably two or three

1699
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,219
times a year throughout all

1700
01:00:06,220 --> 01:00:07,359
the seasons.

1701
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:08,459
Seeing how things change.

1702
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:09,419
In the winter you can walk out on

1703
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,419
the ponds, walk it on the ice,

1704
01:00:11,420 --> 01:00:12,778
try to see where beavers have their

1705
01:00:12,779 --> 01:00:14,539
dams and there's little wood

1706
01:00:14,540 --> 01:00:16,159
sticking out of the ice.

1707
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,419
Down to the thaw when you can see

1708
01:00:18,420 --> 01:00:20,379
the remnants of that and

1709
01:00:20,380 --> 01:00:21,939
see life sprout.

1710
01:00:21,940 --> 01:00:23,579
And then you get leaves on the

1711
01:00:23,580 --> 01:00:24,580
ground in autumn.

1712
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,960
What's your favorite season?

1713
01:00:29,299 --> 01:00:31,258
Probably spring, but not exactly

1714
01:00:31,259 --> 01:00:32,319
right now, because it's a little bit

1715
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:33,139
early.

1716
01:00:33,140 --> 01:00:34,719
The first bloom is definitely the

1717
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,699
best, because that's when you get to

1718
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:37,019
see all the color, you get see even

1719
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:39,019
more animals coming out, all the

1720
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:40,499
birds and all the different noises

1721
01:00:40,500 --> 01:00:41,500
you hear.

1722
01:00:42,009 --> 01:00:43,449
What's going to happen here?

1723
01:00:43,450 --> 01:00:45,369
What kind of

1724
01:00:45,370 --> 01:00:47,569
flowers and do

1725
01:00:47,570 --> 01:00:50,089
you know what kind of flowers in

1726
01:00:50,090 --> 01:00:51,090
these woods?

1727
01:00:51,759 --> 01:00:52,759
Not really.

1728
01:00:54,009 --> 01:00:56,028
Like my brother said,

1729
01:00:56,029 --> 01:00:58,229
I'm not great with naming trees

1730
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:59,270
and naming flowers.

1731
01:01:01,430 --> 01:01:03,508
Do flowers grow up in this

1732
01:01:03,509 --> 01:01:04,509
grove here?

1733
01:01:05,350 --> 01:01:06,548
I don't know for sure.

1734
01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:08,048
I know in the prairies, that's

1735
01:01:08,049 --> 01:01:09,449
definitely where they're more
prominent.

1736
01:01:10,750 --> 01:01:13,109
Right around us is mostly woods and

1737
01:01:13,110 --> 01:01:14,929
that, but down right

1738
01:01:14,930 --> 01:01:16,929
by the pond, between

1739
01:01:16,930 --> 01:01:17,930
the pond and the woods,

1740
01:01:18,850 --> 01:01:20,310
is probably where there will be a

1741
01:01:20,311 --> 01:01:21,869
good amount of flowers.

1742
01:01:21,870 --> 01:01:23,528
So why are there no berry bushes

1743
01:01:23,529 --> 01:01:25,028
around here? Why is there so little

1744
01:01:25,029 --> 01:01:25,949
undergrowth?

1745
01:01:25,950 --> 01:01:27,278
Do you have any idea?

1746
01:01:27,279 --> 01:01:29,919
It's probably because when the

1747
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,399
trees actually get their leaves,

1748
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,199
they get all the sunlight.

1749
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,219
It doesn't really leave much room

1750
01:01:34,220 --> 01:01:36,339
for bushes and undergrowth to

1751
01:01:36,340 --> 01:01:37,579
grow underneath and get that

1752
01:01:37,580 --> 01:01:38,580
sunlight.

1753
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:39,959
It's kind of survival of the fittest

1754
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:40,960
out here.

1755
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,239
Got a thumbs up from grandpa.

1756
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:50,019
49 states, 65

1757
01:01:50,020 --> 01:01:53,959
states, I'll

1758
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:55,339
tell you what a chick-magnet that

1759
01:01:55,340 --> 01:01:56,340
would be.

1760
01:01:57,940 --> 01:01:59,279
Check me out on PBS.

1761
01:02:03,290 --> 01:02:04,290
Oh, yes.

1762
01:02:12,660 --> 01:02:13,660
Oh, you just whistled grandpa?

1763
01:02:14,830 --> 01:02:16,969
Turn around And

1764
01:02:16,970 --> 01:02:17,970
we're gonna go back

1765
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:21,559
tree has got to get sawed up a

1766
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:22,560
little bit too.

1767
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:27,559
Should I do some pointing out here?

1768
01:02:31,910 --> 01:02:33,309
I have the binoculars.

1769
01:02:33,310 --> 01:02:35,258
Don't let me hit a tree.

1770
01:02:35,259 --> 01:02:36,259
You're good.

1771
01:02:37,180 --> 01:02:38,180
You're Good.

1772
01:03:08,279 --> 01:03:09,440
Listen for a whistle.

1773
01:03:10,819 --> 01:03:12,089
I just heard a whistle

1774
01:03:12,090 --> 01:03:13,008
Alright, let's do it.

1775
01:03:13,009 --> 01:03:14,009
Here we go.

1776
01:03:15,690 --> 01:03:16,690
No, we're driving it.

1777
01:03:31,180 --> 01:03:32,829
It also must have gone home, huh?

1778
01:03:39,450 --> 01:03:40,450
And don't look at the camera.

1779
01:03:42,250 --> 01:03:43,829
How's my hat look?

1780
01:03:43,830 --> 01:03:44,830
Oh, it's fetching.

1781
01:03:46,370 --> 01:03:47,559
They might all have.

1782
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:48,560
Yeah, it is.

1783
01:03:50,210 --> 01:03:51,609
I fell asleep in the car on the way

1784
01:03:51,610 --> 01:03:53,789
up here and my hair is

1785
01:03:53,790 --> 01:03:54,790
a little flat.

1786
01:03:56,190 --> 01:03:57,489
Well, that's what I had to.

1787
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:01,120
And it works good.

1788
01:04:04,430 --> 01:04:06,669
This is a two-camera shot too,

1789
01:04:06,670 --> 01:04:07,670
my goodness.

1790
01:04:11,319 --> 01:04:12,859
You run over the camera man, or you

1791
01:04:12,860 --> 01:04:13,860
just drive by him.

1792
01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:29,528
Don't get out!

1793
01:04:29,529 --> 01:04:30,529
Don't Get Out!

1794
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:33,880
Get behind them.

1795
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,800
OK. Run straight to the food.

1796
01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:42,020
That's all we got.

1797
01:04:42,830 --> 01:04:44,068
Burgers?

1798
01:04:44,069 --> 01:04:45,069
Oh yeah.

1799
01:04:47,540 --> 01:04:49,659
It smells wonderful.

1800
01:04:49,660 --> 01:04:51,239
That smells good.

1801
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,739
We got burgers.

1802
01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:53,659
We got burger.

1803
01:04:53,660 --> 01:04:54,909
We do.

1804
01:04:54,910 --> 01:04:56,369
We need buns.

1805
01:04:56,370 --> 01:04:58,639
There's some brat burgers too.

1806
01:04:58,640 --> 01:04:59,799
Brat burgers? Which are the Brat

1807
01:04:59,800 --> 01:04:59,859
Burgers?

1808
01:04:59,860 --> 01:05:01,239
Well, I just tossed them on so

1809
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:02,419
they're gonna flare up a little bit.

1810
01:05:02,420 --> 01:05:03,539
You're gonna see some flames coming

1811
01:05:03,540 --> 01:05:05,439
out here shortly, but How come you

1812
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,740
put it so close to the grill?

1813
01:05:08,279 --> 01:05:09,059
With flames coming. I don't want to
do

1814
01:05:09,060 --> 01:05:10,399
it that way.

1815
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,639
We got one solo coming up later.

1816
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,379
Yeah okay all

1817
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:15,419
right then

1818
01:05:15,420 --> 01:05:16,420
We're gonna need some buns.

1819
01:05:18,770 --> 01:05:19,770
Mustard.