1
00:00:01,609 --> 00:00:03,060
Thank you.

2
00:00:19,390 --> 00:00:20,969
Wisconsin hit record-breaking

3
00:00:20,970 --> 00:00:23,129
tourism numbers for 2025,

4
00:00:23,130 --> 00:00:24,349
according to a new report.

5
00:00:24,350 --> 00:00:26,209
It was the fourth year in a row that

6
00:00:26,210 --> 00:00:28,169
it broke the previous high.

7
00:00:28,170 --> 00:00:30,049
But a tourism boom is often

8
00:00:30,050 --> 00:00:32,089
accompanied by workforce challenges,

9
00:00:32,090 --> 00:00:34,009
with many areas relying on seasonal

10
00:00:34,010 --> 00:00:35,789
workers visiting with temporary

11
00:00:35,790 --> 00:00:36,929
visas.

12
00:00:36,930 --> 00:00:38,349
So far this year, Wisconsin has

13
00:00:38,350 --> 00:00:39,989
received a fraction of the

14
00:00:39,990 --> 00:00:42,169
short-term workers with an H-2B

15
00:00:42,170 --> 00:00:44,569
visa that it has in the past.

16
00:00:44,570 --> 00:00:45,889
To see how the industry is faring

17
00:00:45,890 --> 00:00:47,839
this year we turn to John Jarsh.

18
00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:49,539
Chief Communications Officer for

19
00:00:49,540 --> 00:00:51,079
Destination Door County.

20
00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:52,099
John, thanks for joining us.

21
00:00:53,260 --> 00:00:55,089
Good to be with you, thank you.

22
00:00:55,090 --> 00:00:56,549
So I think it's fair to say that a

23
00:00:56,550 --> 00:00:58,709
lot of people will associate Door

24
00:00:58,710 --> 00:01:01,249
County with rest,

25
00:01:01,250 --> 00:01:03,129
relaxation, putting all your worries

26
00:01:03,130 --> 00:01:04,549
behind you.

27
00:01:04,550 --> 00:01:05,809
I wonder what these staffing

28
00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:07,769
shortages, how these Door

29
00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:09,509
County tourism businesses are

30
00:01:09,510 --> 00:01:10,510
feeling right now.

31
00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:13,699
Yeah, we certainly had a few

32
00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:15,779
challenges with some of the H2B

33
00:01:15,780 --> 00:01:18,419
visas that our workers

34
00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:20,019
and our employers have been trying

35
00:01:20,020 --> 00:01:21,459
to get.

36
00:01:21,460 --> 00:01:23,359
Because we really ramp up

37
00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,179
in the summertime, as a lot

38
00:01:25,180 --> 00:01:27,179
of viewers may know, it takes

39
00:01:27,180 --> 00:01:29,059
a lot more workers than we have

40
00:01:29,060 --> 00:01:31,099
that live here to be able to

41
00:01:31,100 --> 00:01:32,599
operate our businesses and to

42
00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,419
maintain a level of service that

43
00:01:34,420 --> 00:01:35,759
I think most people have come to

44
00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,519
expect when they visit Door County.

45
00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,479
And so, our business owners have

46
00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,539
had to go to...

47
00:01:40,540 --> 00:01:42,519
Alternative methods to find enough

48
00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,859
workers to fill those needs.

49
00:01:44,860 --> 00:01:46,819
And the primary one that we use

50
00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:48,759
here is the summer work travel

51
00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,699
program or a J-1 visa.

52
00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:52,059
That's a fairly common one.

53
00:01:52,060 --> 00:01:53,459
That program's been around for a

54
00:01:53,460 --> 00:01:54,519
long, long time.

55
00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,439
And a more recent one that is

56
00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,939
used is what you had, or you

57
00:01:57,940 --> 00:01:59,839
suggested or said, the H-2B

58
00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:00,840
visa.

59
00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,719
The numbers of H-3B

60
00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,379
workers that we've had in the last

61
00:02:05,380 --> 00:02:07,319
couple of years pale in comparison

62
00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,209
to the number of want visas.

63
00:02:09,210 --> 00:02:11,889
That are here in Door County.

64
00:02:11,890 --> 00:02:13,949
And so, but nevertheless,

65
00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:15,849
the H-2B visa is an important

66
00:02:15,850 --> 00:02:17,249
one for some of our businesses

67
00:02:17,250 --> 00:02:19,229
because those folks can stay

68
00:02:19,230 --> 00:02:20,009
longer.

69
00:02:20,010 --> 00:02:22,409
They're not students, unlike the J-1

70
00:02:22,410 --> 00:02:23,849
students that are here, they have to

71
00:02:23,850 --> 00:02:25,489
be a student in order to qualify for

72
00:02:25,490 --> 00:02:26,669
a J-one visa.

73
00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:28,149
So that means they're here for only

74
00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:29,909
a couple of months.

75
00:02:29,910 --> 00:02:31,849
And Door County season now is a

76
00:02:31,850 --> 00:02:33,869
good, you know, five, six months

77
00:02:33,870 --> 00:02:35,489
long at that really that peak

78
00:02:35,490 --> 00:02:36,649
season. And so.

79
00:02:36,650 --> 00:02:38,549
Some of our businesses have

80
00:02:38,550 --> 00:02:40,909
turned to the H2 visa option,

81
00:02:40,910 --> 00:02:42,849
H2V visa option because

82
00:02:42,850 --> 00:02:44,449
they can stay longer and they can

83
00:02:44,450 --> 00:02:46,529
stay through the entire season to

84
00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:47,769
make sure that they're being covered

85
00:02:47,770 --> 00:02:50,149
and we have enough workforce through

86
00:02:50,150 --> 00:02:52,109
the fall season in October into

87
00:02:52,110 --> 00:02:52,969
November.

88
00:02:52,970 --> 00:02:54,469
Okay, so there are other parts of

89
00:02:54,470 --> 00:02:56,449
the state maybe where the season is

90
00:02:56,450 --> 00:02:58,389
shorter and those shorter visas

91
00:02:58,390 --> 00:03:00,329
work, but the H-2B visas

92
00:03:00,330 --> 00:03:02,329
are more critical in Door County

93
00:03:02,330 --> 00:03:04,409
because it has a longer season,

94
00:03:04,410 --> 00:03:05,410
is that right?

95
00:03:05,810 --> 00:03:07,749
Yeah that is that's correct and our

96
00:03:07,750 --> 00:03:09,409
season has expanded here in the last

97
00:03:09,410 --> 00:03:11,349
ten twenty years indoor county

98
00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:13,169
really for up for a long time

99
00:03:13,170 --> 00:03:15,029
it was memorial day to labor day

100
00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:16,929
uh... But that is no longer the case

101
00:03:16,930 --> 00:03:18,269
and so uh...

102
00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:19,309
You know again uh...

103
00:03:19,310 --> 00:03:20,949
The jay one visa this year were

104
00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:22,589
probably going to be in the

105
00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:23,929
neighborhood of about five hundred

106
00:03:23,930 --> 00:03:25,769
and sixty of the summer work

107
00:03:25,770 --> 00:03:27,649
travel students and

108
00:03:27,650 --> 00:03:29,469
uh... Last year i think

109
00:03:29,470 --> 00:03:30,869
we had uh...

110
00:03:30,870 --> 00:03:33,009
Maybe 85 to 90

111
00:03:33,010 --> 00:03:34,479
H2B.

112
00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,039
Visa workers that were in the

113
00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,719
county. So again, much smaller

114
00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,939
numbers, but increasingly businesses

115
00:03:39,940 --> 00:03:41,279
have looked to that as an

116
00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,959
alternative to make sure that they

117
00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,799
have coverage longer in the

118
00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,579
season instead of that three months

119
00:03:46,580 --> 00:03:48,159
that those, you know, collegiate

120
00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,679
students that are here on the J-1

121
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,989
visa can stay.

122
00:03:51,990 --> 00:03:54,009
So why have they slowed down these

123
00:03:54,010 --> 00:03:55,010
visas?

124
00:03:55,690 --> 00:03:57,989
There's a couple of reasons.

125
00:03:57,990 --> 00:03:59,829
Certainly, we're unsure

126
00:03:59,830 --> 00:04:01,109
exactly why.

127
00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:02,469
I know there's been some challenges

128
00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:03,889
with some of the consulates.

129
00:04:03,890 --> 00:04:05,709
There is actually a cap on

130
00:04:05,710 --> 00:04:07,709
the H-2B visa.

131
00:04:07,710 --> 00:04:09,789
And so, when that cap is

132
00:04:09,790 --> 00:04:11,809
reached, a lot of times, businesses

133
00:04:11,810 --> 00:04:13,809
that may have put in a

134
00:04:13,810 --> 00:04:15,789
request for some H- 2B visa

135
00:04:15,790 --> 00:04:17,849
holders to come and work,

136
00:04:17,850 --> 00:04:19,669
they just, you know, the cap has

137
00:04:19,670 --> 00:04:21,169
hit, and those are no longer

138
00:04:21,170 --> 00:04:23,129
available. There's also a lottery

139
00:04:23,130 --> 00:04:24,869
system that is in Bye!

140
00:04:24,870 --> 00:04:26,909
And if you draw

141
00:04:26,910 --> 00:04:28,969
a poor lottery number,

142
00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:30,409
I don't know exactly how that system

143
00:04:30,410 --> 00:04:32,409
works, but your chances of

144
00:04:32,410 --> 00:04:34,749
getting an H2B worker are

145
00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:36,829
really slim, if not none.

146
00:04:36,830 --> 00:04:39,149
And so again, it's a much smaller

147
00:04:39,150 --> 00:04:41,029
percentage of our workforce here.

148
00:04:41,030 --> 00:04:42,589
It's relatively new.

149
00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:44,249
And so what we're learning this year

150
00:04:44,250 --> 00:04:46,449
is really what the needs of

151
00:04:46,450 --> 00:04:48,389
our constituents are, our

152
00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:49,889
employers, the businesses that have

153
00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:51,769
relied on them. So we can use

154
00:04:51,770 --> 00:04:53,669
that as to

155
00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:55,529
help better advocate here in the

156
00:04:55,530 --> 00:04:56,929
next year moving forward.

157
00:04:56,930 --> 00:04:58,809
The process to get either a J-1

158
00:04:58,810 --> 00:05:00,709
visa student or an H-2B

159
00:05:00,710 --> 00:05:02,029
is quite lengthy.

160
00:05:02,030 --> 00:05:03,849
It takes a long time and so it's

161
00:05:03,850 --> 00:05:05,209
not something that you can just do

162
00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:07,669
over the course of a week or two and

163
00:05:07,670 --> 00:05:09,249
so we'll start to plan and our

164
00:05:09,250 --> 00:05:10,629
advocacy efforts will cook in later

165
00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:12,469
this summer probably going into the

166
00:05:12,470 --> 00:05:14,529
fall when those processes need to

167
00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:16,569
start for the summer of 2027

168
00:05:16,570 --> 00:05:18,709
already and so you

169
00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:19,949
know we're learning and we're

170
00:05:19,950 --> 00:05:20,949
certainly going to be reaching out.

171
00:05:20,950 --> 00:05:22,429
It's a federal issue.

172
00:05:22,430 --> 00:05:24,069
Since those visas are at a federal

173
00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:26,169
level, not at a state level.

174
00:05:26,170 --> 00:05:28,189
And I'm sure we will talk amongst

175
00:05:28,190 --> 00:05:30,489
our tourism industry peers across

176
00:05:30,490 --> 00:05:32,349
the state of Wisconsin to figure out

177
00:05:32,350 --> 00:05:34,509
how we can better work together to

178
00:05:34,510 --> 00:05:36,049
advocate for the needs of our

179
00:05:36,050 --> 00:05:38,009
tourism industry from

180
00:05:38,010 --> 00:05:39,869
an employee standpoint, in

181
00:05:39,870 --> 00:05:41,579
particular with these visas.

182
00:05:41,580 --> 00:05:43,519
So, real quick, as we wrap up here

183
00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,119
with a lot of travelers staying

184
00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,059
closer to home due to high

185
00:05:47,060 --> 00:05:49,039
gas prices, can

186
00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:50,919
local destinations like yours

187
00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,879
handle another record-breaking year?

188
00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,339
Yes, the short answer, and indoor

189
00:05:56,340 --> 00:05:58,219
county, I'm very confident

190
00:05:58,220 --> 00:05:59,499
that we can.

191
00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:00,979
We are, because of our seasonal

192
00:06:00,980 --> 00:06:03,019
nature, we are comprised

193
00:06:03,020 --> 00:06:04,859
of entrepreneurs up and down

194
00:06:04,860 --> 00:06:06,679
this peninsula and on Washington

195
00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,219
Island, and they always figure out a

196
00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:10,099
way to make it work, one way

197
00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:11,239
or another.

198
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,459
You know, they may have to reduce

199
00:06:12,460 --> 00:06:14,239
hours a little bit to accommodate

200
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,279
maybe a reduced workforce to

201
00:06:16,280 --> 00:06:18,299
some extent, but rest assured,

202
00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:19,639
people can expect the same great

203
00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:20,979
service that they have or that

204
00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:22,059
they're used to.

205
00:06:22,060 --> 00:06:23,479
When they come to Door County, and

206
00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:24,919
it is shaping up, I think, to be

207
00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,619
another great summer.

208
00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:27,939
Door County is a great place, really

209
00:06:27,940 --> 00:06:29,899
close to home, and yet it feels like

210
00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:31,019
you're a world away when you're

211
00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:31,859
here.

212
00:06:31,860 --> 00:06:33,659
And we're anticipating another good

213
00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:34,979
year here in Door County and look

214
00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:36,409
forward to welcoming everyone.

215
00:06:36,410 --> 00:06:37,549
All right, we'll leave it there.

216
00:06:37,550 --> 00:06:38,550
Thanks so much for joining us.

217
00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:40,680
My pleasure.

218
00:06:46,550 --> 00:06:47,849
All right.

219
00:06:47,850 --> 00:06:48,850
Thank you

220
00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:52,329
Yeah, you're very welcome.

221
00:06:52,330 --> 00:06:54,069
I'm sorry I didn't get a few more

222
00:06:54,070 --> 00:06:56,409
expletives in my comments.

223
00:06:56,410 --> 00:06:57,809
I'll have to work on that for next

224
00:06:57,810 --> 00:06:58,810
time.

225
00:07:00,180 --> 00:07:01,820
Good for the internet shorts.

226
00:07:01,821 --> 00:07:04,359
I'm teasing, I'm teasing.

227
00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,659
All right, thanks so much, you guys.

228
00:07:05,660 --> 00:07:07,539
I appreciate it, enjoy the rest

229
00:07:07,540 --> 00:07:08,669
of your day and have a good weekend.

230
00:07:08,670 --> 00:07:09,670
All right, thanks, you too.

