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And I'm Frederica.

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Thank you for doing this with us.

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How are you doing?

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Wow, thank you.

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So we have, as you can

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maybe see the other guest here,

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is our engineers and they're gonna

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just make sure everything

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looks and sounds good before we

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officially start.

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While we're doing that, I will

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let you know that this

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conversation will be a little

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bit different from your

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conversation with Stephen in that

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it's a little shorter and the

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questions are

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um a little more straightforward

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and um

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and kind of lets you guide the

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conversation wherever you want to go

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but um this is just kind of

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like a short update so

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uh just so you

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understand kind of um what

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you'll expect to see in the segment.

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Before you start, as I

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told you, I don't know if I talked

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to you on the phone, right?

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So this Saturday

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is going to be a big demonstration

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in Paris in support of

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Maryam Rajabi's 10-point plan with

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our opposition.

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It's more than 100,000 people are

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expected to join us.

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So I'm going there on Thursday.

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I'm flying there Thursday to

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attend that.

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A lot of people from our community,

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a few of them are from Chicago.

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A lot because I'm also going so.

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Just wanted to let you know if you

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wanted to cover any of that.

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That should be quite an event.

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Yeah, it's huge.

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Yeah, I can actually send some

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pictures and videos after

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I come back or even

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during that time because I'm going

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to stay there for, I'll

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come back the Wednesday after

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because there are a lot

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of meetings that's going to

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happen between, you know,

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the leaders of opposition and the

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people just

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to tell them what the status is.

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How long has this been planned?

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Um this was

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planned this is a

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yearly event this is the

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memorandum of the political

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prisons that were executed

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in 1987 30

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more than 32 000 people

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political prisons were executed in

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jail in iran and

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every year this is happening um

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it's been going on every year so

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this is yearly

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Okay, it just so

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happens to kind of coincide with

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this latest.

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of, you know, in 1987,

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time. They wanted to make it a

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Saturday kind of, so it's a day

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before or after or something around

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that event was in

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Bill Pant in Paris.

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tried to bomb that.

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I mean, that was big news, to bomb

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the event. And it was an indoor

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event. More than 100,000 people were

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There were 600 dignitaries

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from United States,

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not Mr.

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Pompeo, but Rudy Giuliani

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and a lot of senators and

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congressmen were there as well.

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resistance are there.

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you know in the street rallies

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in the streets.

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Really quick, I'm going to ask

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Okay, I'm gonna

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Well, thank you for that information

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about the Parisian

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giant event.

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That's super interesting.

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And as Marissa said, particularly

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right now.

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ask you about your

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take, your opinion of this

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MOU that's been

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signed between the

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US and Iran.

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Well, we don't know the

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details, much details.

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back and forth so many times.

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So we really don't the detail.

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that this

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cessation of hostilities, peace

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talks, whatever you want to call it,

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it's only possible with freedom

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for the Iranian people.

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The nature of this regime has not

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changed, whether

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what they're doing is the result

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of basically military

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pressure.

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So they welcome war,

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they want war, they want crisis,

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they wanted these kinds of things to

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suppress the internal

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aspirations of the Iranian People.

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They're there because they're forced

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The real fight

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is actually between the Iranian

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people and this regime.

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Within the last four days, since

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Saturdays till Tuesday,

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they have executed 61 people,

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61 prisoners.

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That is one every three hours.

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So they're very scared of the

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people, and they're uprising, and

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they organize resistance.

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That's why they're trying to

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intimidate people by increasing

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the number of executions in Iran.

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We welcome any

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effort to

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stop the nuclear ambitions of

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this regime.

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Actually, the NCRI, National Council

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of Resistance of Iran, is the one

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that in 2002

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revealed the atomic sites

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and nuclear sites of this region.

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So we welcome that.

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But again, the actual fight,

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the actually peace will happen

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between the Iranian people

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and this regime, and this regime

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is not capable of.

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lasting peace

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for the Iranian people.

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We think.

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Any economic help to this

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regime will also not benefit

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the Iranian regime, as it did not

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in the past.

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billion cash was given to

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them. Besides another $140

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billion that was given,

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the Iranian people did not benefit.

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Is the IRGC, the corrupt system

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in IRGCs.

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Used it and also it

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it was used for the suppressive

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forces of the regime against the

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people they bought Anti-riot

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weapons, you know any anything

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that you can tell the they bought

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face recognition cameras

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and put all over the streets, so

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peace will not be in

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the region. This regime will find

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some way of cheating any

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agreement as they did before.

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So we need to support

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the Iranian people

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to once and for all

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get rid of this regime.

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lasting peace for the Iranian and

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the region in general.

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How do you do that

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of the U.S.

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couldn't.

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overthrow a regime with

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bombing, okay, from

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air. It's impossible, especially

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a regime

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that's ideologically driven.

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They know every way

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They know the people in side Iran.

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They know who is responsible.

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I mentioned that in your last

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interview with that.

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Five days before that

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attack that Khamenei

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was killed by America,

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you know, they bombarded his

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compound, the

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Iranian opposition, the MEK,

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the Mujahideen, how they attacked

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with 250 members,

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attacked that compound.

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Unfortunately, about 100 of them

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died, but 150

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returned to their bases.

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opposition inside Iran.

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with Kurds and Baluchis

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and other minorities

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inside Iran.

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And they are the force that they

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need to overthrow the regime.

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The regime cannot be overthrown with

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foreign intervention, especially

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from air.

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I mean, they need more than

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200,000 troops,

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boots on the ground to do that

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because Iran is full of mountains.

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and it's a large country.

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Iranian people themselves.

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So far the West,

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community, they have been

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appeasing the mullahs.

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the right of the Iranian people and

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their opposition to fight this

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regime and not help this

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regime.

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That's the way to do it.

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Do you feel as though at this point

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the opposition

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is in a better place to

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take over or?

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It is better.

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I mean, regardless of what, you

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the regime is much weaker.

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It has lost its leader.

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It has a son of that

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leader, which we don't know

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even if he's alive or not.

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It's lost a lot of his

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military top

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rank officers.

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It is much weaker inside

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Iran. There's also a division

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between factions of regime because

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some people are

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Saying that why are we having

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a peace treaty with a

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country that killed a leader?

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And then some people were who

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know that they have no other way

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They have to have some sort of

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peace. Otherwise, they'll be you

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know in worse

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shape so the regime is

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much we hear the Iranian people

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are are much stronger now

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and more organized and there's

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a unity between different factions

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and different minorities in Iran.

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You know, the last

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four uprisings in Iran,

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one in, I think, was 2019

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was for the gas prices that went

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up. In 2018, I thing, was price of

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chicken that went out.

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In 2026, the one that we

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saw, it started

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from bazaar because the

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price of the dollar just increased

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a lot. So.

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This regime is incapable of

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solving the Iranian people's

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problems. So as long as the

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structure is corrupt and

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you cannot address the

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basic needs of the Iranian

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People, these

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uprisings will happen.

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It's a matter of time.

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And this time, people know

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that there is no help

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from outside.

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Some people were thinking that,

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okay, the United States will come

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bombard these and these guys will go

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away and that's it.

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And they bring, let's say, the son

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of the Shah, you know, that's

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not going to happen.

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The people of Iran need to

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rise up themselves, and

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they do have organized resistance.

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They need to basically get

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the international community's

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recognition.

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That's what we need.

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We don't need any help,

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money. We don't need any soldiers

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or boots on the ground from foreign

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powers.

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We need their recognitions and

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their help to.

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Basically help the Iranian people.

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You spoke to conditions of

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the Iranian people after

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all of this most

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recent warfare,

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strikes, killings.

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What are the conditions on

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the ground for the people in Iran?

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They are, um...

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They're much worse off, obviously,

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financially.

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The prices have gone up

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huge.

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I mean, they've gone up a lot,

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and the people are struggling.

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A lot of people are struggle

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financially.

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But I was talking to

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a couple of people from Iran.

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They're hopeful.

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They know that they cannot

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wait for anybody from outside.

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They need to do everything

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themselves. And so they are hopeful.

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They were actually, I was a little

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bit.

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Kind of down and I

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was saying well this all this

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happened you guys are okay and said

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oh no no we're great just you

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know we will make it happen so

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there is despair as far as

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financially but they're

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hopeful that you know

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the Iranian people will

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overcome this regime we have to

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because again last 47

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years, they have destroyed Iran.

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They have.

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They have taken it on back

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economically about 100 years and

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people are fed up with it.

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Is there anything you'd like to add

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on this?

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I want to basically

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let everybody know that, as I

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said, there's a organized and

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well-organized and

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opposition

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that we're going to have a

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demonstration in Paris this

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Saturday.

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More than 100,000 people are

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expected to attend.

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And we need to

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basically...

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Let the world and

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the people of Iran and everybody

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know that this is happening so

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more people can join so

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we have a better force to

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overthrow this regime.

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All right.

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Well, thank you and safe

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travels.

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Thank you. We look forward to

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seeing some of

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what you might capture there.

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Yes, I'll take some videos and

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pictures and I'll send you guys.

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That is great.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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I will follow up to

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send you the

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segment when we air it

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this Friday.

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Thank you, Marcia.

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Thank you Marcia, appreciate

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it.

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All right.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you. Have a good one.

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Bye-bye.

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Whatever.