1 00:00:00,390 --> 00:00:02,509 Okay, we are recording. 2 00:00:02,510 --> 00:00:04,329 Thank you for this interview today. 3 00:00:04,330 --> 00:00:05,969 I want to be able to say your name 4 00:00:05,970 --> 00:00:07,949 correctly. Can I have you slowly say 5 00:00:07,950 --> 00:00:09,459 and spell your first semester? 6 00:00:09,460 --> 00:00:11,359 Yeah, it's Yogesh Chavla. 7 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,819 It's Y-O-G-E-S-H. 8 00:00:13,820 --> 00:00:17,379 Last name is Chavala, C-H-A-W-L-A. 9 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:19,879 And for our records, your district. 10 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,379 Yes, I'm the Dane County Board 11 00:00:21,380 --> 00:00:23,299 Supervisor for District 6, where 12 00:00:23,300 --> 00:00:24,300 we are right now. 13 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,979 So District 6, and that's where 14 00:00:26,980 --> 00:00:29,359 we're here right now, tell me about 15 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,319 the mood of your constituents 16 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,999 in the last 24 hours. 17 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,039 Our district has seen too many 18 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,779 officer-involved shootings, as has 19 00:00:37,780 --> 00:00:39,179 this entire country. 20 00:00:39,180 --> 00:00:41,639 We had just behind us Polly Heenan, 21 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,899 we had Tony Robinson, and 22 00:00:43,900 --> 00:00:45,259 something needs to change. 23 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:47,119 We need accountability, we need 24 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:48,779 a transparent, independent 25 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:50,639 investigation, and most of 26 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,279 all what we need is justice. 27 00:00:53,660 --> 00:00:55,679 So you said it's happened 28 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,259 one too many times. 29 00:00:57,260 --> 00:00:58,260 What's not changing? 30 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,159 What's not changing is there's not 31 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,019 enough de-escalation, there 32 00:01:03,020 --> 00:01:05,199 are poor training methods, and then 33 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,139 there is a tendency to 34 00:01:07,140 --> 00:01:08,999 go to the most lethal 35 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,839 form of 36 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,339 subduing somebody as possible. 37 00:01:13,340 --> 00:01:15,079 When you pull out a gun, someone is 38 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,979 gonna die, and we've seen it 39 00:01:16,980 --> 00:01:18,799 happen time and time again, and 40 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,979 we need that to change now. 41 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:22,419 But we're hearing, no, there's 42 00:01:22,420 --> 00:01:24,379 trainings of de-escalation. 43 00:01:24,380 --> 00:01:25,479 It wasn't used here. 44 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:26,499 So what's happening with these 45 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,500 trainings? 46 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:29,609 You know, I don't know specifically 47 00:01:29,610 --> 00:01:30,749 what's happening with those 48 00:01:30,750 --> 00:01:32,309 trainings, but what I can tell you 49 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:34,349 is when you have in 50 00:01:34,350 --> 00:01:36,929 a four to five block radius, 51 00:01:36,930 --> 00:01:38,649 multiple officer involved shootings 52 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:40,609 and we know them and we can 53 00:01:40,610 --> 00:01:41,969 name all them and they're seared 54 00:01:41,970 --> 00:01:43,409 into our memory. 55 00:01:43,410 --> 00:01:45,409 Something is intensely 56 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:47,349 wrong and there needs to be a 57 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:48,669 sharp correction to it. 58 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:50,489 And if it doesn't happen, 59 00:01:50,490 --> 00:01:51,429 we're not going to leave these 60 00:01:51,430 --> 00:01:53,029 streets. We'll be here every night 61 00:01:53,030 --> 00:01:55,119 until we get justice for the family. 62 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,839 Are you surprised at the number of 63 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,169 people that are here? 64 00:01:58,170 --> 00:01:59,809 The only thing I'm surprised by is 65 00:01:59,810 --> 00:02:01,289 that there's not more people here, 66 00:02:01,290 --> 00:02:02,689 and I think the numbers will swell 67 00:02:02,690 --> 00:02:03,929 and grow. 68 00:02:03,930 --> 00:02:06,349 And as we finish up, as a leader, 69 00:02:06,350 --> 00:02:08,609 the emotions and the tension is 70 00:02:08,610 --> 00:02:10,228 really, really high. 71 00:02:10,229 --> 00:02:11,959 How do you step in? 72 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,459 So just on this street last night, 73 00:02:14,460 --> 00:02:15,919 I was helping de-escalate a 74 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,399 situation where we had a 75 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,879 police car surrounded by people. 76 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,799 We wanna make our point that we 77 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,399 want systematic change. 78 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,319 We want the focus to be on 79 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,299 the change, changing the process, 80 00:02:28,300 --> 00:02:29,799 changing the system, so we don't 81 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,059 want any distractions to happen. 82 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:33,919 So what we want to do is we wanna 83 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:35,539 practice what we are asking law 84 00:02:35,540 --> 00:02:37,799 enforcement to do, to de- escalate 85 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,319 and to come up with community-based 86 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,320 solutions. 87 00:02:40,900 --> 00:02:42,059 Are you hopeful of what will happen? 88 00:02:43,470 --> 00:02:45,309 I'm always hopeful it'll happen, but 89 00:02:45,310 --> 00:02:47,379 today's a hard day to be hopeful. 90 00:02:47,380 --> 00:02:48,519 Thanks. 91 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,339 Thanks. Let me give you my card. 92 00:02:50,340 --> 00:02:51,340 Yeah.