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Okay.

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So as a leader in the community

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first, how are you?

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Yeah, I'm doing okay.

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I think for me, I just wanna do my

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best to make myself available,

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whether it's answering questions,

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doing an interview, coming to a

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vigil, coming to press conference.

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I just want to make my self available

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to talk with residents about what

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has happened, what we want to happen

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next, and looking at our future.

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So that's where I'm at.

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What are residents telling you?

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Yeah, residents are just as angry as

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I am, you know, when you see someone

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shot on camera and

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the shooting happens within a matter

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of, you don't want to three seconds.

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That is angry and it's horrifying

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and it is heartbreaking.

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And I don't believe, like a lot of

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residents believe that that should

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be the decision that I believe

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as I'm watching what is happening,

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they're trying to, you no arrest

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him.

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But the option that they chose

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was deadly force so quickly.

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I just don't think that should b an

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option. That should have not been

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the option. I don't believe

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And that brings out so many people

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here today. There's hundreds of

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people, just a few, a hundred feet

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in front of us.

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Tell us what the amount of people

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here, what that speaks to about the

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severity of what has.

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It tells you there's a collective

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anger, there's a collective pain,

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and there's a collective loss.

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This young man, this gentleman has

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a family that loves him.

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He has a child that loves them.

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And so I believe this is just a

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representation, too, magnified of

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that love that his family has for

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him as well.

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But it also is a collective angle.

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It's also a collective asking us

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to do something, asking us respond

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appropriately, for example.

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And what they're specifically asking

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for is for this officer to

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be charged, for this officers to be

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arrested. Any thoughts on that?

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Yeah, so what I learned today from

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the police chief, and it's

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sort of a common process in the

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state of Wisconsin, is that the

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investigation has now been handed

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over to the Wisconsin Department of

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Justice's Department of Criminal

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Investigation, and so now they are

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in charge of investigating that NPD

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is not investigating themselves.

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I want people to ask DCI

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to release as much information soon

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as possible to let the public know

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what it knows, for example.

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I want our,

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you know, our district attorney's

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office is going to get this review

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after DCI gets it.

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And I want the community members to

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stay engaged. So when the

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investigation is done and it moves

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to the district attorney's

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office, for him to make,

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whether or not he's gonna make a

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charge of decision.

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The community should also engage

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there as well with what happens

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next, so.

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And the communities, from what we're

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hearing in their speeches, they're

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concerned about transparency.

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Is that going to happen?

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That's what I think we should keep

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pushing for. You know what I mean?

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I think these are

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taxpayer dollars that are paying for

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the investigation, for example.

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So a taxpayer has a right to

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see information eventually, for

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example, so we have a right of

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transparency.

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I think that shouldn't be lost in

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the conversation that people should

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continue to press for it.

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And as a leader...

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It's heavy emotions,

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there's high emotions.

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How do you manage that with a

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community that still wants to be out

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here and protest and advocate,

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but the emotions and tension is

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really high.

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It's just recognizing that it's

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a natural way to respond.

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And it's not, I can't

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allow myself, whether someone's

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upset with me or someone near me,

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I can allow myself to just be

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totally, take it personal

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to a degree.

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You know what I mean? I need to be

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there to listen, to respond,

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and to really take their concerns

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back to the full body, for example.

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So I don't see my job

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as sort of

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buckling under it all.

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I see myself as sort trying to stand

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firm. And hearing from the

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community, listening to the

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community and taking the community's

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concerns back to the full body.

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And lastly, as we.

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Finish up some people are thinking

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you know this is wouldn't think this

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would happen in Madison or happen

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again in in Madison

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is it a does it

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define Madison or is it bigger

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picture of something that's

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happening in our country?

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I think...

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Collectively, Madison has

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to ask, does this define us?

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Do we want this to define us, so

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is what defines us,

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an officer choosing within a matter

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of seconds to shoot a

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gentleman three times in the head,

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is that the definition of Madison?

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Or is the definition

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of Madison that something changes

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after this?

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Because if this is a protocol that

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is allowed through whatever

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collective bargaining, whatever

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actions that the state is allowing

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for officers to do, then maybe

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Madison is the leader for changing

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those standards of operating.

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Thank you so much, I appreciate it.

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Thank you.