1 00:00:00,450 --> 00:00:01,529 Well, there's a whole event coming 2 00:00:01,530 --> 00:00:03,359 up on data centers. 3 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,059 It'll never. 4 00:00:05,060 --> 00:00:07,279 All right obviously things 5 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,419 move rapidly in campaigns and 6 00:00:09,420 --> 00:00:10,979 we're looking at this last home 7 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:12,079 stretch here. 8 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:13,239 Last time we checked it was a couple 9 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,859 months ago. How are you feeling 10 00:00:14,860 --> 00:00:15,669 going into this final? 11 00:00:15,670 --> 00:00:17,589 It's 28 days, right, four 12 00:00:17,590 --> 00:00:19,089 weeks from today. 13 00:00:19,090 --> 00:00:20,829 And what I feel is like there's wind 14 00:00:20,830 --> 00:00:22,029 at my back on things. 15 00:00:22,030 --> 00:00:23,969 My challenge from the beginning has 16 00:00:23,970 --> 00:00:25,929 been that I am just not as well 17 00:00:25,930 --> 00:00:27,469 known as other candidates, not as 18 00:00:27,470 --> 00:00:28,949 known in some parts of the state. 19 00:00:28,950 --> 00:00:30,329 I think when people have seen and 20 00:00:30,330 --> 00:00:32,169 heard from me, they understand my 21 00:00:32,170 --> 00:00:34,029 experience, the work that I've done, 22 00:00:34,030 --> 00:00:35,029 the vision that I have. 23 00:00:35,030 --> 00:00:36,529 Like I win over lots of those 24 00:00:36,530 --> 00:00:38,269 people. So, you know, I feel like 25 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:40,149 there is wind at back, but 26 00:00:40,150 --> 00:00:41,729 there's still a long way to go. 27 00:00:41,730 --> 00:00:43,279 And as you say, campaigns change. 28 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,219 Campaigns change in very short 29 00:00:45,220 --> 00:00:46,399 order. There have been big changes 30 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,779 in this one just in the last couple 31 00:00:47,780 --> 00:00:48,549 of days. 32 00:00:48,550 --> 00:00:50,409 How does that impact things? 33 00:00:50,410 --> 00:00:51,889 As you talk to voters, are they 34 00:00:51,890 --> 00:00:53,069 still making up their minds? 35 00:00:53,070 --> 00:00:55,209 Are they down to a candidate or two? 36 00:00:55,210 --> 00:00:56,239 How are they deciding? 37 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:57,839 Well, it was nice to me, I just 38 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,299 talked to a guy who already voted 39 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:01,139 for me, so people are voting. 40 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,079 People who vote by mail are doing 41 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,999 that, but I think more and more 42 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:06,419 people are now starting to pay 43 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:07,979 attention. You know, I mean, we're 44 00:01:07,980 --> 00:01:09,919 here amongst Democratic Party 45 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,179 people, there are lots of people who 46 00:01:11,180 --> 00:01:12,919 are active and who have been engaged 47 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,239 for several months, and I love that 48 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,199 and we need more of that, but in the 49 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,699 general public, and the voting 50 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,479 public is like the general public 51 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,459 too, and a lot of them are just 52 00:01:21,460 --> 00:01:23,079 starting to tune in, and so I think 53 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,339 there's It's still a huge 54 00:01:24,340 --> 00:01:26,219 opportunity for... 55 00:01:26,220 --> 00:01:28,159 Defining who I am, what I 56 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,699 stand for, what's different about me 57 00:01:29,700 --> 00:01:31,159 than the rest of the field, and how 58 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:32,719 I can be the best person to be Tom 59 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,119 Tiffany and start governing on day 60 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,639 one. Like, those are the things that 61 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,139 are still the most important thing 62 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:38,099 for me and they're not different 63 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:39,778 than they were on day 1. 64 00:01:39,779 --> 00:01:41,699 There's a growing consensus 65 00:01:41,700 --> 00:01:43,219 among a lot of political observers 66 00:01:43,220 --> 00:01:44,939 that want to try and loop the 67 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:46,419 Democratic primary into a couple of 68 00:01:46,420 --> 00:01:47,499 lanes, like a centrist, 69 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:49,159 government-moderate lane and a more 70 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,179 progressive, farther-left lane. 71 00:01:51,180 --> 00:01:52,319 Is that fair? 72 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,619 Do you put yourself in that? 73 00:01:53,620 --> 00:01:55,539 I think we'd better all be in 74 00:01:55,540 --> 00:01:56,999 the let's get something done way. 75 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,539 It should be in that let's win, 76 00:01:58,540 --> 00:02:00,559 let's be able to govern, and who is 77 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,159 going to be equipped to bring along 78 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:03,739 a democratic majority in the state 79 00:02:03,740 --> 00:02:05,419 legislature. And then the 80 00:02:05,420 --> 00:02:06,859 expectation is for people who are 81 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:08,319 hurting, for farmers in Wisconsin 82 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,119 who have been challenged, like who 83 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,459 is actually going to there and be 84 00:02:11,460 --> 00:02:13,099 ready to hit the ground running on 85 00:02:13,100 --> 00:02:14,519 day one to address issues around 86 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,419 child care, around education, around 87 00:02:16,420 --> 00:02:18,279 health care costs, utility costs 88 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:19,879 for people, like, who is the one who 89 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,279 is there? So. Rather than putting 90 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,399 any ideological markers or 91 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,979 ideological purity tests on this, I 92 00:02:24,980 --> 00:02:26,759 think it should be, and it is for 93 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,459 most people, who is actually going 94 00:02:28,460 --> 00:02:29,499 to demonstrate that they can get 95 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:30,479 stuff done. 96 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,079 There's always a tendency, like a 97 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,199 year or more out from the election, 98 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:34,799 for people to fall in love with 99 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,939 maybe a candidate that's a little 100 00:02:35,940 --> 00:02:37,839 farther out, with bigger, bolder 101 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,459 ideas, but then as the election gets 102 00:02:39,460 --> 00:02:41,219 closer, they go, no, I just want to 103 00:02:41,220 --> 00:02:43,039 win. I'm more nervous about having 104 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,079 my party win than maybe the 105 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,819 person who's got the biggest, 106 00:02:46,820 --> 00:02:48,479 dreamiest ideas. Are you sensing 107 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:49,189 that too? 108 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:51,129 I mean, I certainly have 109 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:53,169 the sense that winning always is 110 00:02:53,170 --> 00:02:54,409 important, this year it feels 111 00:02:54,410 --> 00:02:55,589 existential. 112 00:02:55,590 --> 00:02:56,649 The harm that's being done to 113 00:02:56,650 --> 00:02:58,249 Wisconsin at the federal level, the 114 00:02:58,250 --> 00:03:00,149 fact that cynically the worst harms 115 00:03:00,150 --> 00:03:01,549 when it comes to Medicaid, when it 116 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:03,489 come to SNAP and food share, those 117 00:03:03,490 --> 00:03:05,249 are pushed off until after the 118 00:03:05,250 --> 00:03:07,029 midterms because they're hoping that 119 00:03:07,030 --> 00:03:08,769 people won't know what's coming. 120 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:10,649 I think people understand what the 121 00:03:10,650 --> 00:03:11,949 stakes are and I think that people 122 00:03:11,950 --> 00:03:13,829 are elevating this race both 123 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:15,929 nationally and in Wisconsin about 124 00:03:15,930 --> 00:03:16,930 that. 125 00:03:17,670 --> 00:03:19,549 There are real problems that we need 126 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:21,549 to solve and if we're only 127 00:03:21,550 --> 00:03:23,389 going to get half measures, 128 00:03:23,390 --> 00:03:24,429 if we if there are you know we're 129 00:03:24,430 --> 00:03:26,609 going to be so ideologically 130 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:28,289 pure that we can't get stuff done, 131 00:03:28,290 --> 00:03:29,849 we will have a very short time in 132 00:03:29,850 --> 00:03:31,629 the sunlight or we won't win at all 133 00:03:31,630 --> 00:03:33,749 and I think this is something that 134 00:03:33,750 --> 00:03:34,889 people are starting to pay more 135 00:03:34,890 --> 00:03:35,639 attention to. 136 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,659 When we talk about campaigns, 137 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:38,759 one of the first things you can 138 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,739 demonstrate, aside from your 139 00:03:40,740 --> 00:03:42,419 past history, is how well do you run 140 00:03:42,420 --> 00:03:43,339 a campaign? 141 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:44,939 How much should that matter when 142 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:46,159 there are candidates who have had 143 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,479 some issues with having consistency 144 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,699 in people or fundraising? 145 00:03:50,980 --> 00:03:52,899 How big of a sign is that or 146 00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:54,799 signal to voters that 147 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,519 you know how to get the job done? 148 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,899 Campaigns should be about 149 00:03:57,900 --> 00:03:58,819 competence. 150 00:03:58,820 --> 00:04:00,239 Governing is about competence for 151 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,059 the last 20 years. 152 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:02,419 I've had nothing but executive 153 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:04,319 experience, including running the 154 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,119 state's most important agency at the 155 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,379 Department of Administration and 156 00:04:07,380 --> 00:04:08,699 doing it during times of COVID. 157 00:04:08,700 --> 00:04:10,739 You know, today is July 158 00:04:10,740 --> 00:04:12,359 14th. Tomorrow is July 15th. 159 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,859 When we turn in our campaign finance 160 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:15,639 report, I'll be the last person to 161 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,859 see it, and I'm going to make sure 162 00:04:16,860 --> 00:04:18,398 that I know every detail on it. 163 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,259 The same in January for somebody 164 00:04:20,260 --> 00:04:22,219 to say that they didn't know until 165 00:04:22,220 --> 00:04:23,539 last week that hundreds of thousands 166 00:04:23,540 --> 00:04:24,899 of dollars are missing. 167 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,429 I I think. That's something that's a 168 00:04:26,430 --> 00:04:28,089 question for voters to answer. 169 00:04:28,090 --> 00:04:29,289 Is that person, if they're not 170 00:04:29,290 --> 00:04:31,189 competent to do $600,000 on 171 00:04:31,190 --> 00:04:32,569 a campaign, how are they going to 172 00:04:32,570 --> 00:04:34,809 put together a $110 billion budget? 173 00:04:34,810 --> 00:04:36,029 How are they gonna manage the 174 00:04:36,030 --> 00:04:36,929 complexities around state 175 00:04:36,930 --> 00:04:38,409 government? I know my approach to 176 00:04:38,410 --> 00:04:39,369 that, because I've already done it, 177 00:04:39,370 --> 00:04:40,589 and I did it during COVID. 178 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:42,409 I know what people can see, 179 00:04:42,410 --> 00:04:43,609 what's in my past. 180 00:04:43,610 --> 00:04:45,429 I put out all of the stuff, 181 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:46,949 all of negative research I could 182 00:04:46,950 --> 00:04:48,529 find on myself. 183 00:04:48,530 --> 00:04:49,789 I may be the only candidate in the 184 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:50,809 country who's done it. 185 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:52,729 But I did because it's important for 186 00:04:52,730 --> 00:04:54,389 people to know before they vote for 187 00:04:54,390 --> 00:04:55,899 the primary. It's important for 188 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:57,439 people to know as we head into the 189 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,329 general election. 190 00:04:58,330 --> 00:05:00,149 For people that are kind of making 191 00:05:00,150 --> 00:05:02,109 big national comparisons, obviously 192 00:05:02,110 --> 00:05:03,529 the Democrats had some issues in 193 00:05:03,530 --> 00:05:05,089 Maine. There are other states where 194 00:05:05,090 --> 00:05:07,129 there's a lot more intra-parter 195 00:05:07,130 --> 00:05:08,309 party fighting. 196 00:05:08,310 --> 00:05:09,669 Is it fair to bring any of that, or 197 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:11,289 is this simply about Wisconsin 198 00:05:11,290 --> 00:05:11,809 voters? 199 00:05:11,810 --> 00:05:13,829 I mean, what we do in 200 00:05:13,830 --> 00:05:15,629 the United States is we have 50 201 00:05:15,630 --> 00:05:17,089 statewide elections, whether you're 202 00:05:17,090 --> 00:05:18,949 running for president, whether your 203 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:19,969 running for governor. 204 00:05:19,970 --> 00:05:21,409 The issues in Wisconsin are going to 205 00:05:21,410 --> 00:05:23,029 be determined by Wisconsin people. 206 00:05:23,030 --> 00:05:24,669 So yes, there are national issues. 207 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:26,029 There is national harm that's being 208 00:05:26,030 --> 00:05:27,809 done by Donald Trump to people. 209 00:05:27,810 --> 00:05:29,249 If you're a farmer in Wisconsin, 210 00:05:29,250 --> 00:05:31,289 like everywhere else, every input 211 00:05:31,290 --> 00:05:32,929 cost for you has gone up, the cost 212 00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:34,849 of health care, pitting property 213 00:05:34,850 --> 00:05:36,429 taxpayers against kids. 214 00:05:36,430 --> 00:05:37,889 Those are some of the things that 215 00:05:37,890 --> 00:05:39,569 we're dealing with, and some of them 216 00:05:39,570 --> 00:05:41,599 have national but Wisconsin 217 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,159 voters determine Wisconsin 218 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,039 elections. Wisconsin runs Wisconsin 219 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:46,639 elections, which is another issue we 220 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,479 better be prepared to defend, 221 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,519 but the idea that 222 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,519 there's some national wave 223 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,859 of things, I think it's still about 224 00:05:53,860 --> 00:05:56,079 individual voters making individual 225 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,039 decisions and making sure 226 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,539 that every candidate is up to snuff 227 00:05:59,540 --> 00:06:00,029 for them. 228 00:06:00,030 --> 00:06:01,389 While this primary has been going 229 00:06:01,390 --> 00:06:03,449 on, Tom Tiffany has had a lot of 230 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:05,369 free play to paint himself 231 00:06:05,370 --> 00:06:06,209 positively. 232 00:06:06,210 --> 00:06:07,569 And he's done a lot ad showing him 233 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:09,149 as a folksy regular guy that 234 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:10,249 everyone would love to hang out 235 00:06:10,250 --> 00:06:11,329 with. 236 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:12,849 How much is that going to be a 237 00:06:12,850 --> 00:06:14,889 burden to overcome once you get into 238 00:06:14,890 --> 00:06:16,489 past the primary of like making sure 239 00:06:16,490 --> 00:06:18,769 you can redefine his agenda, 240 00:06:18,770 --> 00:06:20,689 his track record, and redefining 241 00:06:20,690 --> 00:06:21,149 yourself? 242 00:06:21,150 --> 00:06:23,069 Yeah, well, one, I have 243 00:06:23,070 --> 00:06:24,829 people harken back to 2018, where 244 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:26,829 Tony Evers won in a primary that 245 00:06:26,830 --> 00:06:28,589 was bigger than the one we have now 246 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:29,469 in Wisconsin. 247 00:06:29,470 --> 00:06:30,809 And he came out of that not running 248 00:06:30,810 --> 00:06:32,629 against somebody who 249 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:34,529 also wasn't a sitting governor, but 250 00:06:34,530 --> 00:06:35,929 he was running against Scott Walker. 251 00:06:35,930 --> 00:06:37,349 And so, you know, Scott had all that 252 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:38,409 time to do this, too. 253 00:06:38,410 --> 00:06:39,669 Whoever wins this primary is going 254 00:06:39,670 --> 00:06:41,489 to come out with wind at our back, 255 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:42,369 with momentum. 256 00:06:42,370 --> 00:06:44,249 And then will be the time where 257 00:06:44,250 --> 00:06:45,949 Tom Tiffany can't just look over his 258 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:47,159 shoulder and talk about his mother. 259 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,099 He's going to have to look over his 260 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:49,219 shoulder and talk about Donald Trump 261 00:06:49,220 --> 00:06:50,779 and his relationship to Donald Trump 262 00:06:50,780 --> 00:06:52,639 and the fact that nobody has been 263 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:53,699 closer to Donald Trump. 264 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:55,719 Nobody has been more of an acolyte 265 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,079 of the work that Donald Trump has 266 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,019 done. And that has done far harm to 267 00:06:59,020 --> 00:07:00,619 Wisconsin farmers, to Wisconsin 268 00:07:00,620 --> 00:07:02,799 families, to people in our state. 269 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,439 And, you know, these are the things 270 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,599 that he's going to have the answer 271 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,319 to. So he'll have his time for the 272 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,019 next four weeks. And come August 273 00:07:09,020 --> 00:07:10,939 12th, he will have to answer to 274 00:07:10,940 --> 00:07:12,339 a whole different set of questions 275 00:07:12,340 --> 00:07:13,299 than what he does now. 276 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:15,119 But but I again, I remind people 277 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,979 that Tony Evers came out of 278 00:07:16,980 --> 00:07:18,419 that crowded primary. 279 00:07:18,420 --> 00:07:19,819 He had momentum. 280 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:21,019 He was able to get that bounce. 281 00:07:21,020 --> 00:07:22,539 I expect that that will be the same 282 00:07:22,540 --> 00:07:24,299 for me as we head into the general 283 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:25,139 election. 284 00:07:25,140 --> 00:07:26,519 Are you still feeling positive the 285 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:27,979 grind hasn't gotten to you as you 286 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:29,209 come down the stretch here? 287 00:07:29,210 --> 00:07:30,449 Are you kidding? On a beautiful day 288 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:31,929 like today, we're in shade and the 289 00:07:31,930 --> 00:07:32,849 wind is coming through? 290 00:07:32,850 --> 00:07:34,749 No. I mean, in some ways, I think 291 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:35,909 the last few weeks have been 292 00:07:35,910 --> 00:07:36,869 energizing for me. 293 00:07:36,870 --> 00:07:38,589 My family is involved on the 294 00:07:38,590 --> 00:07:39,969 campaign. I'm here with my wife 295 00:07:39,970 --> 00:07:41,469 today. We're able to do things 296 00:07:41,470 --> 00:07:42,269 together. 297 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:44,149 Like, this is the time, you know, 298 00:07:44,150 --> 00:07:45,429 one, it's winning time. 299 00:07:45,430 --> 00:07:46,669 And I've always been a competitive 300 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:48,329 person. And two, it is the times 301 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:49,749 when people finally are starting to 302 00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:51,109 pay attention. Like, I will tell 303 00:07:51,110 --> 00:07:52,409 you, every candidate, we've been 304 00:07:52,410 --> 00:07:54,289 working at this for seven, eight, 305 00:07:54,290 --> 00:07:55,149 nine months. 306 00:07:55,150 --> 00:07:57,009 And we think that every day is, 307 00:07:57,010 --> 00:07:58,769 you like, We are building, building, 308 00:07:58,770 --> 00:07:59,889 building, we want to start to see 309 00:07:59,890 --> 00:08:01,289 that stone roll downhill. 310 00:08:01,290 --> 00:08:02,869 Now is when I think people are 311 00:08:02,870 --> 00:08:04,289 starting to decide and where I'm 312 00:08:04,290 --> 00:08:06,549 starting to see much more attention 313 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:08,249 than we did even just a few weeks 314 00:08:08,250 --> 00:08:08,439 ago. 315 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,439 So as you saw, at least a couple of 316 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,699 candidates drop out along the way, 317 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:14,219 how did you gage that decision that 318 00:08:14,220 --> 00:08:15,039 they were making? 319 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,379 Is that like, as a positive, is the 320 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:18,309 field narrows or is it... 321 00:08:18,310 --> 00:08:19,549 First of all, it's a personal 322 00:08:19,550 --> 00:08:21,029 decision for everybody, you know, 323 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:22,909 this is something that is all 324 00:08:22,910 --> 00:08:24,869 encompassing and I think they 325 00:08:24,870 --> 00:08:26,349 have to look at things about were 326 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:27,989 they able to raise the money, were 327 00:08:27,990 --> 00:08:29,169 they getting the kind of reception 328 00:08:29,170 --> 00:08:30,849 that they need, like, you know, we 329 00:08:30,850 --> 00:08:32,849 still have lots of people 330 00:08:32,850 --> 00:08:34,609 who have their decisions to make, 331 00:08:34,610 --> 00:08:36,369 but I think if you don't have the 332 00:08:36,370 --> 00:08:37,829 resources to be able to communicate 333 00:08:37,830 --> 00:08:39,168 to them, that makes it harder and 334 00:08:39,169 --> 00:08:40,829 harder. We've already spent money, 335 00:08:40,830 --> 00:08:41,849 you now, I won't tell you what's 336 00:08:41,850 --> 00:08:43,819 going to be on my report tomorrow. 337 00:08:43,820 --> 00:08:45,399 But we've already spent half a 338 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,239 million dollars on television around 339 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,159 the state. We were the first 340 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,179 candidate to do that. 341 00:08:49,180 --> 00:08:50,619 And that was an effort to try to 342 00:08:50,620 --> 00:08:52,919 raise my name recognition and do 343 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,839 address the biggest challenge 344 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,619 that I have, which is people just 345 00:08:56,620 --> 00:08:57,839 don't know enough about who I am. 346 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,359 When they learn, when they see the 347 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:00,899 work that I've done, the work I did 348 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:02,939 with Governor Evers during COVID and 349 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:04,239 the vision that I have for taking 350 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,239 the state forward, I win that. 351 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,879 But my challenge is still that they 352 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:08,699 still gotta get to know me. 353 00:09:08,700 --> 00:09:10,859 That's why I'm here today talking to 354 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:12,599 people here and You know, while I'll 355 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,719 be in Wausau today and Merrimack 356 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,319 tomorrow and somewhere else the next 357 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,509 day, like we just keep going. 358 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:18,729 And what is the value of being in 359 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:19,889 this part of the state? 360 00:09:19,890 --> 00:09:21,549 Because this is not where a lot of 361 00:09:21,550 --> 00:09:22,949 Democrats are spending their time. 362 00:09:22,950 --> 00:09:25,029 Yeah, well, there are Democrats all 363 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:26,489 over the state, and there are parts 364 00:09:26,490 --> 00:09:28,409 of the state that haven't had 365 00:09:28,410 --> 00:09:30,829 a lot of Democratic success that are 366 00:09:30,830 --> 00:09:32,689 paying attention more because of 367 00:09:32,690 --> 00:09:33,669 the harm that's happened at the 368 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:35,469 national level, because they are 369 00:09:35,470 --> 00:09:37,569 looking for somebody who can answer 370 00:09:37,570 --> 00:09:39,529 the question of, will you do 371 00:09:39,530 --> 00:09:41,609 something to make my life better? 372 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:43,489 And Democrats are not always trusted 373 00:09:43,490 --> 00:09:44,669 to do it. In fact, we have less 374 00:09:44,670 --> 00:09:46,829 trust in statewide polls than the 375 00:09:46,830 --> 00:09:48,729 Republicans do, and we need to be 376 00:09:48,730 --> 00:09:50,329 in a position where we can 377 00:09:50,330 --> 00:09:51,309 demonstrate to people that we're 378 00:09:51,310 --> 00:09:52,819 gonna get stuff done. 379 00:09:52,820 --> 00:09:54,299 My career has been about solving 380 00:09:54,300 --> 00:09:55,859 problems and actually getting stuff 381 00:09:55,860 --> 00:09:57,619 done for people who live in this 382 00:09:57,620 --> 00:09:58,719 part of the state during COVID. 383 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,439 If you were a family farm and you 384 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,199 needed support or otherwise you were 385 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,919 gonna get foreclosed on, I was part 386 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,279 of state government that helped. 387 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,099 If you are a small business and you 388 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:08,099 were in danger of closing your 389 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,539 doors, we were there. 390 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:10,799 Government doesn't have the answer 391 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,639 to everything, but I have seen it 392 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,119 in opportunities where it had to 393 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,699 work and where it has the 394 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:17,219 responsibility of working and we 395 00:10:17,220 --> 00:10:18,039 made it work. 396 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,079 That's, I think, what government 397 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:20,639 needs to do in times of crisis. 398 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,359 And even for what passes normal 399 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:23,359 times, because we don't live in 400 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,939 normal times but we better be 401 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:26,249 prepared to do it now. 402 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:27,250 Anything else you want to add? 403 00:10:28,810 --> 00:10:29,810 I don't think so. 404 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:32,569 I guess you're not doing as much 405 00:10:32,570 --> 00:10:34,109 directly on Sarah, and her probably 406 00:10:34,110 --> 00:10:35,319 brought that in, but you know. 407 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,159 No, it's relevant, 408 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,779 but we'll be addressing that on 409 00:10:38,780 --> 00:10:39,699 Friday's show. 410 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:41,579 This will probably air in a bigger 411 00:10:41,580 --> 00:10:42,580 grouping afterwards. 412 00:10:43,680 --> 00:10:45,379 We work on different timelines in 413 00:10:45,380 --> 00:10:47,239 the Daily News Flip. 414 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,519 By the time this airs, that will 415 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:49,160 have been addressed three times. 416 00:10:49,161 --> 00:10:51,029 Maybe, and I don't have 417 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:53,049 any idea, again, I will 418 00:10:53,050 --> 00:10:55,889 just tell you that the dynamics of 419 00:10:55,890 --> 00:10:57,729 the race has changed quite a bit. 420 00:10:57,730 --> 00:10:59,209 Last week we saw what happened with 421 00:10:59,210 --> 00:11:01,609 Graham Platner in Maine and 422 00:11:01,610 --> 00:11:03,789 in some ways it wasn't directly as 423 00:11:03,790 --> 00:11:05,069 a result of that, but I paid 424 00:11:05,070 --> 00:11:06,509 somebody to go out and do research 425 00:11:06,510 --> 00:11:08,549 of me and it's a hundred pages and I 426 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:09,449 welcome you to go read it. 427 00:11:09,450 --> 00:11:11,169 Maybe you have at a time where you 428 00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:12,609 were having trouble going to sleep 429 00:11:12,610 --> 00:11:14,589 one night, But the reason I 430 00:11:14,590 --> 00:11:15,789 did it is because... 431 00:11:15,790 --> 00:11:17,689 The stakes are so high about 432 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:18,869 making sure that we can elect 433 00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:20,269 somebody who can get things done 434 00:11:20,270 --> 00:11:21,909 related to health care, related to 435 00:11:21,910 --> 00:11:23,710 education, related housing, you 436 00:11:23,711 --> 00:11:25,449 know, economic development. 437 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:27,009 And if people don't know what 438 00:11:27,010 --> 00:11:28,409 they're getting, if we're hoping 439 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:30,089 that somebody's not going to have 440 00:11:30,090 --> 00:11:31,689 the bad stuff revealed about them, 441 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:32,789 we're naive. 442 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:34,749 And we need to know who we're 443 00:11:34,750 --> 00:11:36,489 getting as we enter into the general 444 00:11:36,490 --> 00:11:38,009 election. And I have been as 445 00:11:38,010 --> 00:11:39,429 transparent as anybody. 446 00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:40,929 Like, you know you can hold a press 447 00:11:40,930 --> 00:11:42,149 conference and say that that's 448 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:43,859 transparency. But paying somebody to 449 00:11:43,860 --> 00:11:45,019 go out and dig up if there's 450 00:11:45,020 --> 00:11:46,479 anything negative about you and 451 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:47,899 laying that out in voters, I take 452 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:49,579 that as transparency as well. 453 00:11:49,580 --> 00:11:51,059 And I think that that's what we need 454 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:52,919 to do. I may well be the only 455 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,159 person in the country who's doing 456 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,339 this and running for governor this 457 00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:56,859 year, but I shouldn't be. 458 00:11:56,860 --> 00:11:58,079 And there should be more people who 459 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,699 are willing to do that and willing 460 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:01,299 to show people that this is what you 461 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:02,029 get. 462 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:03,329 Alright, that's what we need. 463 00:12:03,330 --> 00:12:04,129 Thank you. Appreciate it. 464 00:12:04,130 --> 00:12:05,270 We'll grab the mic back for him.