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I was like, man, will you relax?

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Merle, give me a quick audio check.

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Okay, testing one, two, testing,

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one, two, mic test, testing.

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One, two. I know that's the worst

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mic test to give.

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They really want you to say

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something that's more.

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That's good.

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Appropriate of what you're going to

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say when you actually talk,

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but there I go.

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Let me get these off.

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Just in case I need them.

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Does that mean you're ready?

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I'm just trying to get my cheeks to

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be rosy. There you go, relax it out.

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Woosah, woosah. Woos-ah.

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All right, you guys all set?

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Alex C, good to see you again.

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It's good to you too Murr.

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By the time this airs, we

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know that little clock on your

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website will have been ticking,

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ticking, ticking, and it will hit

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zero.

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Yes, it will.

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What has it been like and how long

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has that clock been ticking to make

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all this happen?

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Oh man, this clock's been ticking my

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whole life in some ways Merv, more

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specifically probably the last

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decade as we started thinking

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about putting together a project

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team, a campaign team.

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We have to slow things down because

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of COVID.

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So we started fundraising in

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2021, so it's

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been a five years plus

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countdown in terms of

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seriously being able to see the

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finish line.

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And I hate to do the old,

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what does it feel like that

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reporters tend to do, but what does

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it feel, like Alex, after all this?

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It feels like a dream that's

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come true.

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It's one of those things that's been

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in the back of my mind for probably

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most of my life. It's why I chose to

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stay in Madison, because I had my

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sights on doing something in South

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Madison where we grew up, where we

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spent time in a

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community that's given so much to

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me.

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But to be here and to realize that I

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stand on the shoulders of so many

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people who rubbed my head and

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pinched my cheeks and said,

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you're gonna do something, young

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man. Keep going to school.

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Give back to the community,

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keep your faith, to stand

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on their shoulders and to realize

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that they saw something in me and

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they encouraged me to stay here and

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make the community better if I

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could. And so I feel really honored

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to be chosen to do this

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and pull our community together the

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way I've been able to.

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website I saw a line there,

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it says this is going to be

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a sanctuary for healing,

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a catalyst for growth,

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where we bring black culture,

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creativity, leadership, research,

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innovation, all under the same

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roof. That's right.

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How the heck do we do that, Alex?

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lots of partners and lots of

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and health disparities with

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African-Americans, typically the

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assumption is many of us don't have

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health care. We don't take advantage

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of the health care that we want.

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medicine and public policy are

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showing that many of our

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degenerative diseases are

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stress-related.

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And so I can pick up a magazine and

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read 15 different ways you and I die

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more readily than our white

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counterparts. But what you don't

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read is, how do you mitigate that?

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we do to reduce it?

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historically it's dance, it's swag,

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it's food, it' hanging out, it's

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playing the dozens, it

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intergenerational programming,

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it's checkers, it watching TV, it's

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watching old 70s movies,

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but it's spending time together

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where we don't have to code switch

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or feel that we have to be someone

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other than who we really are.

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of those things that you have said

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to reduce the stress.

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But the benefit of this, my

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great desire, is that black

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people live longer and healthier

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lives.

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I haven't raised all this money, so

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black people can have fancy places

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to have dances.

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people should know 31 million

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problem plus.

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Oh, 32, sir.

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32. I'm just saying.

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I don't want to go too short.

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You're right, for a debt-free

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facility, for a completely debt-

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free facility.

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I'd love for you to paint a quick

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picture, Alex, of just what

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really is going to go on here.

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I mean, yeah, we talked about

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the mission statement

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kind of thing there, but paint a

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picture for us.

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Sure, well, some of the,

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like we're sitting right here in our

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senior space. So this is one of the

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programs that's ready to go because

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so many of our seniors, once they've

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retired, they just seem to

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disappear.

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We don't see them anymore.

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So we want them to come out and have

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a place to hang out right next

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door to our children's library where

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they can help young readers.

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We have a program that's for

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entrepreneurs, innovators

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and folks that are ready to start

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their own businesses.

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We're going to work on leadership

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development, business strategy

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development.

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Helping to raise money to launch

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those businesses and then helping

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to introduce those people into

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our social networks so that you

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don't have a business that's ready

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to go and no place to carry

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it out.

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We have two

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films that will be showing real soon

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in our theater.

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We're doing a couple of weddings

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here, graduation parties,

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but the special thing that I want

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people to know, Merv, is that we're

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only designing about 25 to 30

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percent of the of the programs here

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because we want the community to

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come in and say.

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You know what we need?

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Like someone came in here the other

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day who's

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newer to their job and they said, we

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need an NABJ, like National

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Association of Black Journalists.

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There's one in Milwaukee there.

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I'm sure you're familiar with it.

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I am. But because there's a space to

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host it, someone said, we had to do

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a Madison version.

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That's the beauty of this space.

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Like, that's not my job to do that.

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A journalist came in and said

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that. Others have come in and says,

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you know, we need a doula program.

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Can we do that here?

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We need self-defense programs for.

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Black women and moms do we have can

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we do that here?

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So for me the beauty the program is

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when we have space to come in

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together and say let's create an

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Association or let's do something

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to bring all the Greek organizations

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together.

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So the sororities

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and the fraternities together So

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that we can create a regional office

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of working together.

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The beauty of this is I

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built it I've worked to fund

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it, but the community is going to

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have to fill it

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Yeah and we thank you for that Alex

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and there's a lot more to talk about

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so this will be continued and

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we appreciate you for

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joining us on here now.

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I'm so sorry.

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I forgot not to turn

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around when I heard that.

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Well, we can do the, if you want,

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I can do that

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last little part over and then close

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it out just like within a minute.

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Is that okay?

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I think we probably should, yeah.

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OK. I'm so sorry.

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So where were we?

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So we're, um...

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That makes me think, do

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phones like on silent mode?

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I do.

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Mine is.

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Who am I supposed to be?

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Well, the alarm, it probably is,

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but the alarm is still going to go

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off.

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I know what I'll do, Alex, I'll

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And I like that answer.

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What was the question?

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What's going to go on here, but I

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think that probably about how the

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community is going to do it, those

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examples, if we can use

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any of that before we get to that,

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just know.

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That's really helpful for me.

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Should I just ask

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that question over again?

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I think so just to keep it capsized.

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I mean it's okay if it you

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know it like I said we're

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trying to hit five you know you know

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that five minute mark.

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It's not life or death if we go five

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fifteen five thirty or whatever but

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uh but yeah I just

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sure so maybe what I'll do is I just

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say I have I've got time for one

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more uh I'd love for you to

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paint a picture of kind of what goes

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on here.

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I'll do it that way.

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You guys set?

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Okay.

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Alex, we've got time for one more.

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I'd just love to...

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We've got for one question.

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I just want you to paint a broad

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picture kind of of what really is

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going to go on here.

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Initially we're going to have...

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Let me get that over.

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I didn't like the way I said that.

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See, when I have to think about it,

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it gets all funky for me.

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All right, I've got time for...

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Don't even start it that way.

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Just start the question.

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Well, I have to start that way, I'm

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sorry.

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So, pass the picture.

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I'm getting there, Cynthia, just

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give me a second to get there and

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I'll go, I'll promise.

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I think I can do it.

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You better.

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Yeah, right.

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In the next two minutes.

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So we use all those words to

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describe what goes on here, but I

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want you to, if you can,

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just paint a real clear picture of

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kind of how you see what's gonna

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happen here.

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A number of things will take place

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right away. The intergenerational

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programming is very important.

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We're sitting here in senior space

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right now.

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And we purposely put this room

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right next door to the children's

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library so that we can have that

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grandparent and grandchild kind of

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interaction.

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We have space that's about to

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launch training

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for innovators and for entrepreneurs

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with leadership training.

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Funding training, actually plugging

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them into funding sources to

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launch their businesses.

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We have legal services provided to

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help them to structure their

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businesses, and then performances.

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We have two theaters, and so we have

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a couple of film debuts

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that are going to be showing there,

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plus lots of events that community

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organizations want to have, like

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weddings and retirement gatherings.

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I think the special part of this

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space is that we're only designing

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about 25 percent of it ourselves,

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programming ourselves.

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The rest of the community is going

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to come in and say.

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You know, we need a

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sort of a karaoke night,

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or we need line dancing night, or

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we need, I'm going to show my age

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by saying star search, but

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America's got talent.

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So there are so many things that we

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can do out of here that center

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around performance, lectures,

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comedians, meals

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together.

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But the beauty is that we've

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designed a small part of it, but the

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community gets to determine what

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this looks like when it's finished.

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I didn't like the way I answered

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that question.

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And I know I shouldn't have done

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that.

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Now we're all

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into ourselves now.

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This could take days at this point.

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I do, I'm just wondering how much of

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the first one can we keep?

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I wonder if we can, because it

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seemed like that was an easy flow.

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Well, what happened, the only thing

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is the phone rang and then you

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turned around.

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I mean, I don't know, can it be

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salvaged?

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No, no, no. I shouldn't have turned.

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I just, that's because...

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Yeah, we'll blame you.

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I mean, we could do some flash

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edits, right?

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I wonder if there's a way to just...

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Mix it together.

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I wonder if there's just a way to

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close it out and

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take that answer and then I just say

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And I think that's a question a

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lot of people are wondering, so

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that's why I'm trying to answer it

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succinctly.

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We need to do it over.

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I think between the two of

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them, we can definitely make

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this work.

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Mike doesn't trust us. The first one

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was good.

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I just... Because there's...

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Because it's natural, yeah, no

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thinking involved.

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So then maybe I just close

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it out, and we'll

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figure out a way to get it where we

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need to get.

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And if we have to use it and we hear

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the ringing in the back around, I've

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got two cameras I can cut to MIRV.

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I like that.

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And you'll cut out the part where I

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looked around?

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I need to make sure it wasn't my

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phone. What's going on in there?

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I know, that was just a reaction.

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I know because I thought that was a

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countdown, so.

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No, no, no. It's no problem.

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No, I just turned it around because

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I was being nosy.

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But if you think we can really work

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that out, if you're not comfortable

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with that, though, I'll

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do it again. I'm leaning to you.

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I personally think we can I think

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we could put a white flesh in there.

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We just need the closer from her

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Sure. Yes.

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So now it's back on me.

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Back on you. You're the

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quintessential professional.

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Alexi, we appreciate you joining us

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for this. Wait, I don't like that

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either.

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Hehehehe.

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Thank you, Johnny.

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Okay, I got it.

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Okay.

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All right, Alex, a lot, sorry.

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I won't make any faces at you.

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Please don't.

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And Cynthia, leave me alone.

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I can feel it, I can

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just feel it. I can feel you doing

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your thing over there.

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All right, Dr. Alex Shi, we'll have

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to leave it there.

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This conversation will be continued

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because there's so much more we can

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talk. That's way too much.

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Sorry. All right. I got it.

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You can just say bye.

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Yeah, bye.

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You know, Baron, it wasn't that

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funny. Wasn't that fun?

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Everybody's turning. I don't know
about that.

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Everybody's turning, everybody's

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turning on me.

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No worry, we got you buddy, we've

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got you.

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You wanna ask me if there's anything
else

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I wanna say? No, no.

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PBS Groupers.

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Because you weren't looking at me

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like you were ready.

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All right, Alex, we'll have to leave

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it there. We appreciate you joining

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us.

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Thank you, it's been great being

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here.

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And the full dismount.

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All right, then we can do this other

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one.