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2026 7th Congressional

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Democratic primary debate today

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We're going to learn more about

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where three of the candidates stand

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on the issues to help you make an

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informed decision this August

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Whoever wins the primary will face

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the winner of the republican primary

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in the november election Let's

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meet the candidates from left to

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right. We have ginger murray fred

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clark and chris armstrong

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We will hear opening statements in

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just a moment, but let's get

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acquainted to the rules.

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Candidates will have 90 seconds to

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No one has been given the questions

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in advance.

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Let's start with opening statements.

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Mr. Clark, your first.

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Well thank you and Dan thank you

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for moderating and to WJFW

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thank you for hosting this important

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event and for all of your viewers

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who are here today thanks for taking

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time out of your day to learn about

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this election.

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You know it was never my dream to go

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to Washington but

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I spent a lot of

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time last summer and thought long

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and hard about what we need from

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our congress and what

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thousands of people across northern

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wisconsin deserve and expect from

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washington and i talked

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to a lot people i trusted i

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knew this race would be a

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tough uphill battle and i knew for a

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democrat to win here in the seventh

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congressional district would take a

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candidate and a lot of work and

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I decided that I had what it took

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to enter this election.

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I think people in northern Wisconsin

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right now are fed up with the

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chaos that's going on in Washington,

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and they're being affected directly

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by the actions of this

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administration in so many

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different ways, in healthcare, with

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this tariff war, with affordability.

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And what I've learned in my career

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as a forester, my career is a

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community leader, and my career,

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as a state rural representative,

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is that our small communities work

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when everybody works together.

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I want to bring that same

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spirit to Washington, D.C.

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And represent the people of northern

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I would love to have your support.

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I look forward to this debate.

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This is Murray.

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Your opening statement.

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Thank you to all

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of you for hosting us today.

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Thank you, most importantly,

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voters for paying attention and

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listening to us today, my

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name is Ginger Murray, and I'm

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running to be your next

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Congresswoman in

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I am the only female running on the

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Democratic ticket.

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This is a vast district,

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26 counties, and I believe the

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people here deserve to

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have a representative who listens

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to learn.

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And who will get you results

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in return for your vote of

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confidence, shown by voting for me

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on August 11th.

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This district is ready to flip,

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and I'm not just talking about

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Republican and Democrat, I'm talking

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about the haves and the have nots.

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You'll remember Dave Opie had this

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district for 40 years, one of the

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best of the good boys we ever had.

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But do you see what's happening now?

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Have you watched as this district

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voted in Susan Crawford?

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Have you watch as this districts

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flipped over the 50%

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mark to bring in Chris Taylor?

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Well, I too am

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a fellow lady

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leader lawyer.

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And I'm looking for that same

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movement that you were willing to

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make for Chris Taylor to make her

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a Supreme Court judge here in

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the state of Wisconsin to make,

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to allow me to be your first

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Congresswoman.

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District seven.

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I was born in Eau Claire, raised in

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Forest County, served as city

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attorney of Crandon, town attorney

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of Leona, family court commissioner,

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and I'm happy to be your candidate

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Mr. Armstrong, your opening

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Well, howdy folks, Chris Armstrong

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from Richmond in St. Croix County.

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I grew up of Northist Star Prairie

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on the Apple River.

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I went to school in Amory and got

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my degree in astrophysics from the

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University of Minnesota.

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I started programming computers when

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I was 13 years old and had been

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running my own IT company for

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Trump's second inauguration with

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the flurry of illegal, un-American,

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unconstitutional executive orders

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and Elon Musk taking a sledgehammer

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of the federal government, and I

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couldn't believe that anybody,

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nobody was doing anything about it.

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So I took to the

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streets in my hometown in Richmond

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and started protesting by myself

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at the busiest intersection in town

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at rush hour And it was

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shortly after that that I founded

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new Richmond indivisible with

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other local organizers

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But you know with the upcoming

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April election of

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Susan Crawford I felt I needed to do

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more than just you know sit on my

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butt and hope that you know cross my

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fingers put up a Sign and

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and hope it would all work out

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So I started working

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with the St. Croix County and Polk

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County Democrats, knocking on

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doors in my local community.

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And it was shortly after that, in

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April 2025, that I declared

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my candidacy.

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I was the first candidate from

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either party in

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April, 2025.

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And I'm going, you know,

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we're going back to Congress because

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we need to hold this administration

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accountable and get Congress back to

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doing the work for the people.

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This question will go to Mrs. Murray

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first.

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Democrats haven't won this seat

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since 2008, and to be

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honest, ever since, it hasn't been

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close. So my question to the

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candidates, why do you give

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Democrats the best chance to win in

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November?

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Mrs.

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Thank you.

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Yes, Dave. Obie was an amazing human

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being and a great representative for

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the folks of this district After

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that, we have some gerrymandered

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boundaries.

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We lost all of our college towns,

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and that definitely gave Sean Duffy

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and Tom Tiffany an advantage.

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However, as I indicated in my

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opening statement, since then, the

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lady lawyer leaders have been

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killing it, crushing it, and getting

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the support of this community.

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Most notably, Susan

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Crawford pushed this district

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over the 50% mark

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and showed that counties

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that haven't voted blue in the

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They are looking for a progressive

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candidate, they are tired

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of the corruption that is

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happening in Washington D.C.,

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they want people who are listening

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and showing up, talking to

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the folks here and who will stand

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for justice.

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As a lawyer, that's been my entire

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career, defending the Constitution.

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I studied it, I defend it.

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It is time to get back to the rule

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of law, and that is what I do

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best. I believe that the

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voters in this district are

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absolutely looking for someone

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to take the reins.

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There are 96 other women in the

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Democratic caucus who are waiting

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for more women to join them to

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hold people accountable in

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Washington, D.C., and I

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fit that bill.

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I sure hope they'll send me to D.

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C. So I can take care of business

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for them there. No retainers,

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no lawyer fees.

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Mr. Armstrong, why do you give

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Democrats the best chance to win?

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Uh, well, you know, I have a good

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question. I am just a normal

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guy, you know.

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I grew up here, went to school

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here, raised my family here, started

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my company here.

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Um, you know, a foreigner

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grassroots organization in my

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community. And I think what people

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are looking for is just normal

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people, um, that are going

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to get up there and advocate for

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them and really hold this

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administration accountable and

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start, you know, advocating for

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policies that are really going to

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make a difference in people's lives.

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What I've heard across the

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district, not just in Richmond,

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is it's not just Democrats, but it's

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also independents and

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Republicans that are really

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sick of the status quo.

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They're really frustrated with

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this administration being

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corrupt and criminal,

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not being held accountable, not

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following the Constitution.

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And I think we need a fresh

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perspective, new people to

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represent us here in the 7th

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Mr. Clark, same question.

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Yeah, and what I'm bringing

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my experience as a small business

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owner and also as a I'm the only

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candidate in this race who's had

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experience as a rural elected

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representative. I served in a

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representing parts of Sauk, Columbia

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and Marquette counties between 2009

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and 2014 and something

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that I learned then.

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In that experience was that in order

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to be effective in your job as a

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representative in a district that's

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very mixed politically, you have

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to commit to working with everybody.

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And you have commit to engaging

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every person you represent with

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respect and with listening and

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with the willingness to find

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solutions.

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I used to tell the people that I

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worked with, I don't care whether

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you voted for me or not, it's my job

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to represent you and I'm going to do

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that to the best of my ability.

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So in this campaign, I'm

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reaching out to voters with the same

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proposition, that this election is

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more about character than it is

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about party.

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On the ride over to farm technology

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days in the wagon today, I ended up

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speaking with a farmer for

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about five minutes who told me,

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are you a Democrat?

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And I said, yes, I am.

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I'm a proud Democrat.

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And he said, well, I haven't voted

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for a Democrat since Jimmy Carter.

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I don't know if I'm gonna vote for

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you.

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But we ended up talking for another

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four minutes about his dairy

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herd, about his knee replacements.

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And about what life is like

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managing a small farm.

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And it's exactly the commitment that

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I want to bring to everybody in the

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Seventh Congressional District, the

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representation that works for

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everybody.

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Our next question goes to Mr.

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Armstrong first.

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Health care remains one of the

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biggest issues facing.

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I asked for a rebuttal.

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Yeah, I'm going to be issuing the

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rebuttals, not you.

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Oh, I am sorry. The next question
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to Mr. Armstrong first.

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Healthcare remains one of the

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biggest issues facing Americans, and

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in rural areas like the Seventh, it

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can verge on inaccessible.

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Within the Democratic Party, there's

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disagreement about the best path

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forward.

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Some support Medicare for all.

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Others want to build on the

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Affordable Care Act.

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If elected to Congress,

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what approach would you support Mr.

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Armstrong first?

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Well, I think the Affordable

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Care Act and Patient Protection

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Act, which of course got rid of

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the prerequisites and preconditions,

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I think is a bridge to

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a different program.

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I don't admit to be a health care

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policy expert, but Medicare

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for all sure seems to be something

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that is viable.

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You know, I if we

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look at the other side it appears as

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if uh, healthcare is

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something that they believe you have

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to work for in order to

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get, and I think that's completely

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backwards.

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You have to be, you know, physically

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and mentally healthy to be

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able to work.

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And we're the, you know, the richest

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country in the world in the history

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of this planet.

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And there's just no excuse that

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we can't deliver high quality

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health care for everybody in this

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district. Where again it's very

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challenging given the

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low population density.

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We shouldn't have to be able to you

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know drive an hour or two to get the

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health care we need.

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You know be able to have birthing

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centers. We need to be to be be able

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attract you know physicians and

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providers here. So there's a lot of

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work to do but you know with

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the innovation and know-how and the

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right kind of support I'm sure that

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we can deliver that for the 7th

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district.

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Mr. Clark, your healthcare solution.

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Well right now in northern Wisconsin

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we are facing a health care

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crisis and let's be clear

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their health care system didn't work

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perfectly by a long shot before 2025

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but what this administration

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and this Congress has done by

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eliminating the Affordable Care Act

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tax credits and by cutting

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almost a trillion dollars out of

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our national Medicaid program which

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will take effect at the end of this

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year they have precipitated

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a crisis that is going to

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Now there are rural clinics and

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rural hospitals in northern

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Wisconsin that depend on

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more than fifty to sixty percent

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of their revenue from Medicaid,

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which in Wisconsin is our badger

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care program.

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Those clinics are going to lose

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millions of dollars of revenue,

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thousands of Wisconsinites are going

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lose coverage, it's going to

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affect their health and their

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welfare.

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But those clinics, those

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hospitals, more than will close,

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more providers will leave our area

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in what's already a very thinly

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stretched rural health care system.

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And that will affect every single

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one of us in northern Wisconsin,

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regardless of where we get our

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coverage, because we'll lose

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access to care that we need.

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The first thing Congress needs to do

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is restore those cuts and

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restore the funding for Medicaid.

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And then we need to look forward.

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To how we find health care that

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works for everybody.

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I support strengthening Medicare, I

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support lowering Medicare enrollment

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age, and I support creating

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a public option that will make

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affordable health care run by

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the Medicare program available to

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everyone at any age for a fair

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price.

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Mrs. Murray same question to you

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question. Yes thank you that's an

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excellent question I know health

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care is on the mind of everyone I've

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talked to in the district- I've

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noticed that different places where

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they leave questionnaires or

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surveys consistently.

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Health care concerns are number one

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for the constituents of the district

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number seven.

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Medicare for All, Affordable Care

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Act, Public Option, those

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are all improvements from

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where we sit today.

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This administration has taken us

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backwards as it relates to

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healthcare for all.

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I am for universal healthcare.

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I do not over, I

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don't overestimate

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my impact or influence.

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I will be one of 435

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people who would be voting on this

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issue in the House of

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Representatives.

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I come at it from a different

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perspective as an attorney who

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settles 90 percent of my cases.

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I look at what the problem is I

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figure out what answer is it that we

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need and the work is

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how do we get there?

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And so I will work with the other

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members in the house of

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representatives Whether it's

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medicare for all whether it's

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improvements on the affordable

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care act or public

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option As long as we're making

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progress I'm in favor of

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it as long as we get results not

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empty promises to our people They

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need real results and they need them

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really quick and I can't imagine

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any elected official Actually

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being able to say that their

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constituents don't need help in this

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area. So I hope that we will be able

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to get it done immediately.

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Let's move on to some individualized

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questions. We'll start with Mr.

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Clark. Mr. Clarke, you're portraying

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yourself as a middle-of-the-road

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candidate.

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It's a similar playbook to your

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successful runs for assembly.

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But let's go back to Act 10 in 2011.

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You attempted to unseat a state

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senator in a highly-charged recall

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election.

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Are you really as bipartisan and

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independently-minded as you say you

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are.

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That's a great question.

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I appreciate that.

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So I served from

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2009 to 2014 in

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the state assembly.

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My own state senator Luther Olson

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was somebody who I worked who was

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a Republican, who I've

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worked with closely on many issues

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and we had a strong working

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relationship.

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Unfortunately, during Scott Walker's

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first term in office, his signature

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piece of legislation, Act 10,

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basically stripped away the

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rights for public employee unions

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throughout the state.

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And that unfortunately divided

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Wisconsin in a way that we haven't

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seen probably since the Civil War.

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I made a decision then to

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run against Senator Olson

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in one of the recall elections.

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And I'll tell you that that was one

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of the most intense campaigns

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I've ever experienced.

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And unfortunately it

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was something that Wisconsin

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became divided over so

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unnecessarily.

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But you you mentioned me as a

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middle-of-the-road candidate I'll

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re-characterize that.

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I'm willing to work with anybody

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who's willing to work with me to

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help get things done for the people

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that I represent, but I'm not going

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to sacrifice my values as

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a candidate committed to fairness

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and equity and having

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government work in a way that

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benefits all of us.

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And what happened here in Act 10,

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unfortunately divided this state.

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We need unity more than ever,

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but I won't sacrifice my values in

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order to get that.

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I'm going to follow up with you, Mr.

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Clark. In 2011, in that recall

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election, you called a female voter

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and she hung up on you.

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You said, quote, I feel like calling

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her back and smacking her around,

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end quote.

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And this was caught on her

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voicemail. Can you address this

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exchange?

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I sure will and I have addressed it

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and I'll address that anytime.

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It was a very unfortunate

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conversation at a point

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where I thought the phone had hung

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up and the woman had said something

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to me that offended to me.

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She was completely within her rights

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to say that and I made a statement

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that was completely indefensible

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when I thought I was in private.

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When I learned that she had heard

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that, I called her immediately and

574
00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:10,189
I apologized And I

575
00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:11,769
sent her a letter of apology which

576
00:17:11,770 --> 00:17:12,770
she accepted.

577
00:17:13,609 --> 00:17:15,088
Something more important is that I

578
00:17:15,089 --> 00:17:17,049
learned from that is that our

579
00:17:17,050 --> 00:17:19,068
words matter and

580
00:17:19,069 --> 00:17:20,868
who we're speaking about and how we

581
00:17:20,869 --> 00:17:23,189
speak about others matters and

582
00:17:23,190 --> 00:17:25,328
it matters whether you're alone or

583
00:17:25,329 --> 00:17:26,969
whether you are talking to someone

584
00:17:26,970 --> 00:17:28,789
or about someone and I took

585
00:17:28,790 --> 00:17:30,169
some important lessons from that

586
00:17:30,170 --> 00:17:32,029
experience that have

587
00:17:32,030 --> 00:17:34,109
really served me well in

588
00:17:34,110 --> 00:17:35,369
the 15 years since then.

589
00:17:36,980 --> 00:17:37,919
Thank you, Mr. Clark.

590
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,879
Now to Mrs. Murray, you said in an

591
00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,459
interview with Up North News that

592
00:17:41,460 --> 00:17:43,319
quote, I could not for one

593
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,039
second think of anything that

594
00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,039
President Trump has done that I

595
00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,159
would aspire to do, end quote.

596
00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,039
Do you stand by what you said and

597
00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,199
you'll probably need some Trump

598
00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:53,499
voters to vote for you to win this

599
00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,319
election?

600
00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,320
Is that the right message?

601
00:17:58,380 --> 00:17:59,380
Thank you.

602
00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:01,979
I also had an interview with Dale

603
00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:03,719
Ryman where he asked me what is it

604
00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,339
that President Trump has done that

605
00:18:05,340 --> 00:18:06,719
you appreciate?

606
00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,239
And the clarification that I was

607
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:09,919
able to bring during that interview

608
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,939
is that we have some of the same

609
00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:13,799
thoughts. It's his execution

610
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,539
that I don't agree with.

611
00:18:15,540 --> 00:18:17,379
For example, there can be

612
00:18:17,380 --> 00:18:19,219
a reason to have tariffs when

613
00:18:19,220 --> 00:18:21,579
you're trying to make our domestic

614
00:18:21,580 --> 00:18:24,119
manufacturers more competitive.

615
00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,579
However, the way that he did it and

616
00:18:25,580 --> 00:18:27,319
the way it's like a mystery to folks

617
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,279
what the

618
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,159
I just don't believe in the way

619
00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,139
that he's executing the plans that

620
00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:35,059
he wanted.

621
00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:36,519
I believe in America first.

622
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,779
I don't belief in the ways he's

623
00:18:37,780 --> 00:18:38,659
doing it.

624
00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:40,759
It's unconstitutional to start a war

625
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,679
unless we're under attack or

626
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,079
there's an imminent threat.

627
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,119
And yet he took us to war without

628
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,639
getting the permission of Congress

629
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,809
which is required by Article 1.

630
00:18:49,810 --> 00:18:51,789
I don't appreciate that he has

631
00:18:51,790 --> 00:18:54,029
given agents the right to

632
00:18:54,030 --> 00:18:55,989
violate due process and use

633
00:18:55,990 --> 00:18:58,369
lethal force to kill agents

634
00:18:58,370 --> 00:19:00,229
who are costing

635
00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:02,129
and murdering citizens

636
00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:03,889
who are out there using their first

637
00:19:03,890 --> 00:19:05,169
amendment right for freedom of

638
00:19:05,170 --> 00:19:06,349
speech and assembly.

639
00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:08,189
They are engaging in a violation of

640
00:19:08,190 --> 00:19:09,409
fourth amendment freedom from

641
00:19:09,410 --> 00:19:11,289
unreasonable search and seizures and

642
00:19:11,290 --> 00:19:13,149
he's doing nothing about it and we

643
00:19:13,150 --> 00:19:14,689
just had two more people killed in

644
00:19:14,690 --> 00:19:15,889
the last 48 hours.

645
00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:17,869
The president is supposed to

646
00:19:17,870 --> 00:19:19,829
lead from the top and show us how to

647
00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:21,789
do things right by example He

648
00:19:21,790 --> 00:19:23,749
is unleashing chaos into

649
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:25,429
our communities and that needs to

650
00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:26,349
end

651
00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:28,249
So there's still nothing that you

652
00:19:28,250 --> 00:19:29,489
would agree with that the president

653
00:19:29,490 --> 00:19:31,349
has done, according

654
00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:32,350
to your statement.

655
00:19:32,980 --> 00:19:34,969
Is there nothing that he's done?

656
00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:36,929
Um, there is not very much

657
00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:38,809
that I appreciate that he

658
00:19:38,810 --> 00:19:40,229
has done. When I think about

659
00:19:40,230 --> 00:19:42,769
President Trump, he got elected.

660
00:19:42,770 --> 00:19:44,649
So I give him credit for getting

661
00:19:44,650 --> 00:19:46,409
people to the polls that had never

662
00:19:46,410 --> 00:19:47,989
been to the polls before.

663
00:19:47,990 --> 00:19:50,029
And I will take that as

664
00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:51,889
a lesson. He reached out to folks

665
00:19:51,890 --> 00:19:53,509
who had given up or never cared

666
00:19:53,510 --> 00:19:55,269
about government and he figured out

667
00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:56,829
how to get them to the poles.

668
00:19:56,830 --> 00:19:58,489
He has learned how to do his

669
00:19:58,490 --> 00:20:00,269
messaging so people pay attention.

670
00:20:00,270 --> 00:20:01,589
I will give him credit for that.

671
00:20:01,590 --> 00:20:03,409
And I am trying to learn to be

672
00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:04,609
more concise in my words.

673
00:20:06,220 --> 00:20:07,239
Thank you, Mr. Murray.

674
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,739
Now to Mr. Armstrong.

675
00:20:08,740 --> 00:20:10,859
You've never run for office before.

676
00:20:10,860 --> 00:20:12,339
That could be an asset, but it can

677
00:20:12,340 --> 00:20:14,039
also be a liability.

678
00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,839
As we saw in Maine just recently, it

679
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,959
can completely derail an election.

680
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,519
So Mr.Armstrong, are there any

681
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,999
skeletons in your closet that you'd

682
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,419
like to get off your chest?

683
00:20:22,420 --> 00:20:22,959
Uh, no.

684
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,939
And you know, I don't think that

685
00:20:24,940 --> 00:20:26,239
you know what happened in Maine I

686
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:27,339
think didn't have anything to do

687
00:20:27,340 --> 00:20:29,539
with Mr. Platner's

688
00:20:29,540 --> 00:20:31,099
lack of experience that had to do

689
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:33,219
with judgment apparently in

690
00:20:33,220 --> 00:20:35,039
in the past, you know if you look at

691
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,119
the US Constitution Qualifications

692
00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:38,759
for you know holding the seat in the

693
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,179
US representatives are pretty simple

694
00:20:40,180 --> 00:20:42,339
gonna be 25 years old Doesn't

695
00:20:42,340 --> 00:20:43,779
say anything about having to have

696
00:20:43,780 --> 00:20:45,659
held political office before and

697
00:20:45,660 --> 00:20:47,719
in fact You know as everyone

698
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,059
knows the house turns over

699
00:20:50,060 --> 00:20:52,149
in its entirety every two

700
00:20:52,150 --> 00:20:54,109
years. So that tells me

701
00:20:54,110 --> 00:20:56,329
that the founders expected that

702
00:20:56,330 --> 00:20:58,209
the entire, you know, representative

703
00:20:58,210 --> 00:21:00,509
of the

704
00:21:00,510 --> 00:21:03,329
states might turn over 100 percent.

705
00:21:03,330 --> 00:21:05,009
So, you know, I think what people

706
00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:06,789
are looking for is a fresh

707
00:21:06,790 --> 00:21:07,669
perspective.

708
00:21:07,670 --> 00:21:09,689
They're looking for bold,

709
00:21:09,690 --> 00:21:11,529
fearless, relentless leaders

710
00:21:11,530 --> 00:21:13,149
that are willing to go to the mat

711
00:21:13,150 --> 00:21:14,009
for the people.

712
00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:15,129
And that's what I'm going to do for

713
00:21:15,130 --> 00:21:16,729
the people of the 7th District.

714
00:21:16,730 --> 00:21:18,389
Your two fellow candidates on the

715
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:20,349
stage have held elected office.

716
00:21:20,350 --> 00:21:21,529
They arguably would know more about

717
00:21:21,530 --> 00:21:23,769
how government works, or people,

718
00:21:23,770 --> 00:21:24,989
should they be worried that you

719
00:21:24,990 --> 00:21:26,709
might not know how to get things

720
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:28,639
done in Washington D.C.

721
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,279
I don't think so.

722
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,059
You know, my job is a enterprise

723
00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:33,919
architect and a systems engineer

724
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,479
and a big part of that is something

725
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,099
called governance.

726
00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:38,399
And the whole idea is that we want

727
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,339
to be able to, you know,

728
00:21:40,340 --> 00:21:42,499
provide facts and information to

729
00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:44,679
make things fair, transparent,

730
00:21:45,940 --> 00:21:47,259
you know, accountable.

731
00:21:47,260 --> 00:21:48,759
And so I've got a lot of experience

732
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,419
in the consulting work that I've

733
00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:51,999
done for state and federal

734
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,419
government agencies and large

735
00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:55,339
organizations about what means to

736
00:21:55,340 --> 00:21:56,639
try to govern.

737
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,699
Your business strategy and your IT

738
00:21:58,700 --> 00:21:59,700
portfolio.

739
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,159
Okay, back to our normally scheduled

740
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,239
questions.

741
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,839
Our next question goes to Mr. Clark

742
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:06,739
first.

743
00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:08,279
If Democrats win the House, there is

744
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,799
a decent chance some members will

745
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,759
again pursue articles of impeachment

746
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,319
against Donald Trump.

747
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,739
Would you support this, Mr. Clarke?

748
00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:18,419
So right now what

749
00:22:18,420 --> 00:22:20,519
we see from Washington is what

750
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,099
any of us can read in the newspapers

751
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,329
and the

752
00:22:24,330 --> 00:22:26,329
outright and overt violations

753
00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:28,229
of the law including

754
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:29,749
the emoluments clause of the

755
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:31,729
constitution including any number

756
00:22:31,730 --> 00:22:33,589
of corrupt actions

757
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:35,249
that are clearly illegal on their

758
00:22:35,250 --> 00:22:37,129
face is something that we can

759
00:22:37,130 --> 00:22:38,629
all read about and and members of

760
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:40,209
this administration have actually

761
00:22:40,210 --> 00:22:42,289
been open about uh

762
00:22:42,290 --> 00:22:44,469
that they're doing but the

763
00:22:44,470 --> 00:22:46,409
role of impeachment in

764
00:22:46,410 --> 00:22:48,269
our congress is a critical

765
00:22:48,270 --> 00:22:49,849
role that needs to be approached

766
00:22:49,850 --> 00:22:51,829
solemnly I believe the

767
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:52,779
first step...

768
00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:54,659
Is investigations and I think

769
00:22:54,660 --> 00:22:56,159
the House of Representatives is the

770
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,299
body that needs to begin those

771
00:22:58,300 --> 00:22:59,899
investigations to determine and

772
00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:02,239
document violations of the law.

773
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,179
And from there the House would make

774
00:23:04,180 --> 00:23:06,159
a decision about whether to

775
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,039
file articles of impeachment and

776
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,259
pursue an impeachment investigation

777
00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:13,499
and bring that to the Senate.

778
00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:15,339
So I can't tell you how I would

779
00:23:15,340 --> 00:23:16,879
vote on that but what I can tell you

780
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,459
is that the investigations need to

781
00:23:18,460 --> 00:23:20,299
that we have all the evidence

782
00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:21,359
that we need.

783
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:23,179
For violations of the law and

784
00:23:23,180 --> 00:23:24,999
corrupt activities that Americans

785
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,959
of all political persuasions

786
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,879
are seeing and they're appalled

787
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,859
by. And our Congress needs to

788
00:23:30,860 --> 00:23:32,759
be the first body of the federal

789
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,579
government that reverses that

790
00:23:34,580 --> 00:23:36,459
and holds the people that have done

791
00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:37,919
that to account.

792
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,638
And I will be part of that process.

793
00:23:40,639 --> 00:23:42,139
Now to Mrs. Murray, would you

794
00:23:42,140 --> 00:23:43,480
support articles of impeachment?

795
00:23:44,620 --> 00:23:46,039
Thank you for that question.

796
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,819
We get asked that all the time at

797
00:23:47,820 --> 00:23:49,259
our town hall meetings and at our

798
00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:51,379
forums We have already

799
00:23:51,380 --> 00:23:52,580
impeached this president twice

800
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,559
if the fellow members the

801
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,739
other 434 members

802
00:23:58,740 --> 00:24:00,619
of the House of Representatives if

803
00:24:00,620 --> 00:24:01,939
there is a majority that thinks that

804
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,779
that's what we need to do to

805
00:24:03,780 --> 00:24:05,599
Do what's right for the folks who

806
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,679
come on government to take action

807
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:08,999
and hold someone accountable.

808
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,299
I would absolutely support it

809
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,299
um what I also want to say is there

810
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:14,999
are other moves that are being made.

811
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,839
Some people play chess, some

812
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,739
people play checkers, um

813
00:24:18,740 --> 00:24:20,719
there are other folks that I watch

814
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,959
um specifically congresswoman

815
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,859
um Melanie Stansbury.

816
00:24:24,860 --> 00:24:26,319
I know that there are other things

817
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,239
that they are looking at.

818
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,599
They've called the question as to

819
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,779
whether or not we should have the

820
00:24:29,780 --> 00:24:31,619
other group that's available under

821
00:24:31,620 --> 00:24:34,199
amendment 25 that allows for

822
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,200
impeachment there.

823
00:24:36,620 --> 00:24:38,579
I think back to the days of

824
00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:39,499
Nixon.

825
00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:41,579
There was a special investigation

826
00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:43,599
that was required then.

827
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,119
Dick Cates was the attorney who was

828
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:47,119
a special investigator and Hillary

829
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,499
Rodham was his assistant.

830
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:51,159
I worked for Lawton and Cates for

831
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,179
some time.

832
00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:54,059
I am aware of the work that Dick

833
00:24:54,060 --> 00:24:56,139
Cate's did for our country

834
00:24:56,140 --> 00:24:57,659
at that time.

835
00:24:57,660 --> 00:24:59,659
I agree with my colleague

836
00:24:59,660 --> 00:25:01,759
Fred Clark that an investigation is

837
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,559
necessary.

838
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,359
I also think it won't take very long

839
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:05,839
considering all the information that

840
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,059
we already have.

841
00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:08,839
I I also think the fastest way to

842
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,159
remove the current administration is

843
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,599
to get to the bottom of the Epstein

844
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,649
files.

845
00:25:13,650 --> 00:25:14,650
The women,

846
00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:16,970
we'll talk about that more later.

847
00:25:18,090 --> 00:25:19,189
That is fine.

848
00:25:19,190 --> 00:25:21,398
Mr. Armstrong, same question.

849
00:25:21,399 --> 00:25:23,819
The answer is absolutely.

850
00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:25,499
I mean, it is actually the primary

851
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:27,319
foundation of my campaign,

852
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,219
which is we need to hold

853
00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:31,259
this administration accountable.

854
00:25:31,260 --> 00:25:33,219
It breaks the law

855
00:25:33,220 --> 00:25:35,339
and does not follow the

856
00:25:35,340 --> 00:25:37,859
Constitution every single

857
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:39,379
day.

858
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:41,039
And the fact is that, you know,

859
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,939
Trump admits it publicly,

860
00:25:43,940 --> 00:25:45,279
you know. So he is certainly the

861
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,039
most transparent, corrupt criminal

862
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,799
politician we ever seen.

863
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,499
There is a preponderance of

864
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,709
evidence. However, I'll defer to

865
00:25:53,710 --> 00:25:55,929
Ginger and her expertise in trials

866
00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:58,429
on the proper procedures.

867
00:25:58,430 --> 00:25:59,849
But the first thing I'm going to do

868
00:25:59,850 --> 00:26:01,709
when I get seated in the next

869
00:26:01,710 --> 00:26:03,309
Congress is work with my fellow

870
00:26:03,310 --> 00:26:04,909
members, both Democrats and

871
00:26:04,910 --> 00:26:06,729
Republicans, to introduce

872
00:26:06,730 --> 00:26:07,769
articles of impeachment.

873
00:26:07,770 --> 00:26:08,889
Because the thing I think viewers

874
00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:10,809
want to, I think, understand

875
00:26:10,810 --> 00:26:12,649
is today is the worst day of

876
00:26:12,650 --> 00:26:14,889
the Trump administration until

877
00:26:14,890 --> 00:26:15,949
tomorrow.

878
00:26:15,950 --> 00:26:17,789
So this administration knows

879
00:26:17,790 --> 00:26:20,249
no depth of the cruelty

880
00:26:20,250 --> 00:26:21,390
in criminality.

881
00:26:22,890 --> 00:26:25,209
What's the point of passing

882
00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:27,409
any new legislation

883
00:26:27,410 --> 00:26:29,529
when they currently don't obey

884
00:26:29,530 --> 00:26:31,229
any of the laws that we already

885
00:26:31,230 --> 00:26:32,169
have?

886
00:26:32,170 --> 00:26:33,229
So it's not easy.

887
00:26:33,230 --> 00:26:34,829
It's not simple.

888
00:26:34,830 --> 00:26:37,029
But it's something we have to do.

889
00:26:37,030 --> 00:26:38,909
I will take an oath to protect and

890
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:40,829
defend the Constitution, and it

891
00:26:40,830 --> 00:26:42,939
is the constitutional remedy.

892
00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:45,119
For taking care of a president

893
00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:46,160
who abuses his power.

894
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,099
We will start with Mrs. Murray for

895
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:50,359
this next question.

896
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,099
Across northern Wisconsin, employers

897
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,619
say one of their biggest challenges

898
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:55,459
isn't finding jobs,

899
00:26:55,460 --> 00:26:58,059
it's finding housing for workers.

900
00:26:58,060 --> 00:27:00,019
In communities across this district,

901
00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:01,679
teachers, nurses, police officers,

902
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,819
and young families are struggling to

903
00:27:03,820 --> 00:27:05,659
find homes they can't afford.

904
00:27:05,660 --> 00:27:06,839
What role should the federal

905
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,739
government play in addressing this

906
00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:09,999
housing shortage?

907
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,809
Mrs.Murray.

908
00:27:10,810 --> 00:27:13,729
Yes, thank you affordable

909
00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:15,929
housing most definitely is an issue,

910
00:27:15,930 --> 00:27:17,330
especially in the Northwoods

911
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,919
I see that in line with

912
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,719
many other things that we also have

913
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,179
affordability issues with.

914
00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:25,879
We've talked about healthcare and

915
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,619
talking with farmers and loggers.

916
00:27:27,620 --> 00:27:29,479
They're also worried about how to

917
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,099
bring in that next generation or

918
00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,219
have a successor plan in place.

919
00:27:33,220 --> 00:27:35,399
I think that the federal government

920
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,719
needs to find funds

921
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,659
that are available without

922
00:27:39,660 --> 00:27:41,199
going into further debt.

923
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,379
So we need to have funding that's

924
00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:45,419
available to assist with

925
00:27:45,420 --> 00:27:47,099
people who are interested in buying

926
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,079
a home somewhat like the student

927
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,039
loans that I had where you can have

928
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,179
interest free or very low interest

929
00:27:53,180 --> 00:27:55,279
at the beginning and Then you can,

930
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,319
have graduated payments when folks

931
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,139
are just starting a, new, job

932
00:27:59,140 --> 00:28:00,999
or in relocating it

933
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,539
is a very expensive Time in their

934
00:28:02,540 --> 00:28:04,179
life it's an uncertain time that you

935
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:06,159
have to move that costs money you're

936
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:07,899
starting at a job you might Be there

937
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:10,139
as a probationary employee and

938
00:28:10,140 --> 00:28:12,039
so i think just how We treat

939
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,979
student loans, we should have that

940
00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:15,779
available for people starting jobs

941
00:28:15,780 --> 00:28:17,879
instead of going to school that

942
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,699
we should have financing

943
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,299
available where the government will

944
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,819
get paid back, but that we help

945
00:28:22,820 --> 00:28:24,759
folks who are trying to

946
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,519
prosper and grow our rural

947
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,039
communities by having subsidized

948
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,919
or assistance in financing

949
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,739
through the federal government.

950
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:34,799
That would apply towards farmers and

951
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,659
foresters, as well as people trying

952
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:38,379
to buy that first time house.

953
00:28:38,380 --> 00:28:39,959
We know statistics say right now,

954
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,099
you're almost 40 years old before

955
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:42,379
you're buying a house. That needs to

956
00:28:42,380 --> 00:28:43,149
change.

957
00:28:43,150 --> 00:28:45,149
Now to Mr. Armstrong, same question.

958
00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:46,249
What should the federal government

959
00:28:46,250 --> 00:28:47,590
do about the housing shortage?

960
00:28:48,620 --> 00:28:49,899
Well, of course, you know, this is a

961
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,839
challenge that, you know, transcends

962
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,079
multiple jurisdictions.

963
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,539
So there's certainly state and

964
00:28:54,540 --> 00:28:56,319
local, you know, permitting issues

965
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,720
about being able to build

966
00:28:57,721 --> 00:28:59,859
multi-dwelling small houses.

967
00:28:59,860 --> 00:29:02,199
You know, a lot of people in

968
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,239
the North would use mobile

969
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,059
homes or prefab homes that are

970
00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:08,579
subjected to some unnecessary

971
00:29:08,580 --> 00:29:10,069
restrictions.

972
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:11,909
I know that, you know, my wife,

973
00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:14,009
she was the beneficiary

974
00:29:14,010 --> 00:29:15,969
of having a very low

975
00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:18,249
down payment due to a program from

976
00:29:18,250 --> 00:29:19,549
President Obama.

977
00:29:19,550 --> 00:29:20,869
I think programs like that are

978
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:22,049
pretty essential.

979
00:29:22,050 --> 00:29:23,609
But we also have to deal with the

980
00:29:23,610 --> 00:29:25,529
fact that everything

981
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:27,449
is more expensive right

982
00:29:27,450 --> 00:29:28,449
now.

983
00:29:28,450 --> 00:29:30,049
So the cost of building a house

984
00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:32,869
because of the insane tariffs,

985
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:34,169
who are the people they're going to

986
00:29:34,170 --> 00:29:35,799
build this.

987
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,799
The cost of electricity to

988
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:38,779
operate it.

989
00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:39,939
So there's a lot of different

990
00:29:39,940 --> 00:29:42,939
dimensions, but I think the

991
00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:44,619
federal government definitely has a

992
00:29:44,620 --> 00:29:46,819
role in trying to give people a

993
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,659
leg up and trying to pursue

994
00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:51,039
the American dream of

995
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,139
home ownership.

996
00:29:52,140 --> 00:29:53,259
And I think there's lot that we

997
00:29:53,260 --> 00:29:54,260
could do in Congress.

998
00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:56,920
Now to Mr. Clark, same question.

999
00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:59,819
Well, this is one of those problems

1000
00:29:59,820 --> 00:30:01,659
that's it's multifaceted and

1001
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,659
it's going to require both the

1002
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:05,119
federal government along with state

1003
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,219
governments, local governments and

1004
00:30:07,220 --> 00:30:08,539
community leaders to address.

1005
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:10,319
There's not a single solution.

1006
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,739
It's one of the silver buckshot

1007
00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:13,039
problems.

1008
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,479
I will tell you that one of things I

1009
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,979
agree with our president about is

1010
00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:17,979
that he allowed to pass into law

1011
00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:19,879
a bipartisan housing bill that was

1012
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,359
one of the first significant

1013
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,119
legislative achievements around

1014
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,979
housing in at least 20

1015
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:27,949
years. So credit where credit

1016
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:29,089
is due.

1017
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:30,969
But we need to look at the cost of

1018
00:30:30,970 --> 00:30:32,669
housing for homeowners.

1019
00:30:32,670 --> 00:30:34,909
And a 7% mortgage,

1020
00:30:34,910 --> 00:30:36,729
that's almost impossible for many

1021
00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:37,749
people to leave the home that

1022
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:38,809
they're in and move to another one,

1023
00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:40,049
even if they want to move to a

1024
00:30:40,050 --> 00:30:41,329
smaller home. But for many

1025
00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:43,249
homeowners today, property taxes

1026
00:30:43,250 --> 00:30:45,989
is another burden on

1027
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:47,449
affordability and the ability to

1028
00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:48,669
stay in their homes.

1029
00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:51,349
But the cost of building a house is

1030
00:30:51,350 --> 00:30:52,289
exorbitant right now.

1031
00:30:52,290 --> 00:30:53,989
And it's so much higher than it was

1032
00:30:53,990 --> 00:30:55,529
even 20 years ago.

1033
00:30:55,530 --> 00:30:57,269
We need a workforce that can help

1034
00:30:57,270 --> 00:30:58,489
build those houses.

1035
00:30:58,490 --> 00:30:59,409
Chris mentioned it.

1036
00:30:59,410 --> 00:31:01,269
We need to invest and allow,

1037
00:31:01,270 --> 00:31:03,409
create rules that allow efficiently

1038
00:31:03,410 --> 00:31:05,709
built manufactured

1039
00:31:05,710 --> 00:31:07,669
housing to lower the cost of

1040
00:31:07,670 --> 00:31:08,909
getting into a house.

1041
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:10,369
We've got to provide incentives for

1042
00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:12,289
developers to provide housing

1043
00:31:12,290 --> 00:31:13,989
that's affordable for working

1044
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:14,769
people.

1045
00:31:14,770 --> 00:31:17,069
And then we've got put the limits on

1046
00:31:17,070 --> 00:31:18,649
commercial investors who want to buy

1047
00:31:18,650 --> 00:31:20,209
up hundreds of single-family homes

1048
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:22,079
and turn them into rental units.

1049
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,339
And those homes are no longer

1050
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:24,759
available for people to own that

1051
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,459
home and start building their

1052
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,179
equity, which is what the American

1053
00:31:28,180 --> 00:31:29,180
dream used to be.

1054
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,639
We'll go to Mr. Armstrong first on

1055
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,459
this one.

1056
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:34,239
It's a very straightforward

1057
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,519
question.

1058
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,379
What's one promise you're making

1059
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:39,239
tonight that voters can hold

1060
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:40,819
you accountable for if you're

1061
00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:41,599
elected?

1062
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,999
Mr.Armstrong.

1063
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,779
Well, I'll be real.

1064
00:31:44,780 --> 00:31:46,779
I'll tell you the truth.

1065
00:31:49,060 --> 00:31:51,559
I will work tirelessly

1066
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,119
for you.

1067
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:56,259
You know, the representatives that

1068
00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:58,919
we've had here for 16 years,

1069
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,859
I look at, you know,

1070
00:32:00,860 --> 00:32:02,400
are we more prosperous?

1071
00:32:03,460 --> 00:32:04,879
Are, is there more opportunity?

1072
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,479
Do we have better jobs?

1073
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,639
You know is healthcare cheaper?

1074
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,679
Are you healthier?

1075
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,839
Is the air cleaner?

1076
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,559
Is the water cleaner?

1077
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,419
You know, having grown up

1078
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:16,019
here and had the wonderful

1079
00:32:16,020 --> 00:32:18,319
experience of knowing what it's like

1080
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,199
to be

1081
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,019
a part of this part of the

1082
00:32:22,020 --> 00:32:24,359
country, I'm

1083
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,339
committed, because

1084
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:28,239
of me and my family growing up

1085
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,419
here, and my daughter

1086
00:32:30,420 --> 00:32:32,419
and my grandson growing up, that

1087
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:34,799
I'm commited to making this

1088
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,279
the best possible place in

1089
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,519
the United States to live, because

1090
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,559
it is a unique place

1091
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:41,680
amongst all across the world.

1092
00:32:43,330 --> 00:32:43,979
Mr. Clark.

1093
00:32:43,980 --> 00:32:45,799
One promise you can make to voters?

1094
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,219
Well, the promise I can make to

1095
00:32:48,220 --> 00:32:50,519
voters is that I will be

1096
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,479
in every county in this

1097
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,779
district every year in

1098
00:32:54,780 --> 00:32:56,779
order to do the job that voters

1099
00:32:56,780 --> 00:32:58,679
should expect and demand from their

1100
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,839
representative in Congress.

1101
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,139
And then we'll start by showing up

1102
00:33:01,140 --> 00:33:03,379
and listening and engaging voters

1103
00:33:03,380 --> 00:33:05,219
and citizens with respect that

1104
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:07,299
they deserve and a willingness

1105
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,479
to find solutions that

1106
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,279
get outside our normal political

1107
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,379
boundaries.

1108
00:33:12,380 --> 00:33:13,679
One of the issues that will be a

1109
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,559
signature issue for me is how

1110
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,759
we revitalize our

1111
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,439
Northern Wisconsin economy.

1112
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,879
And for so many years, the

1113
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,759
Northwoods has been really

1114
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,559
held up and our prosperity has been

1115
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,239
so dependent on our forest resource

1116
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,139
and our recreation economy.

1117
00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:31,279
And right now we're

1118
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:32,559
suffering and so many Northern

1119
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,279
Wisconsin communities are suffering.

1120
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,199
The federal government has a role to

1121
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,039
play to help restore a

1122
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,859
prosperous forest-based economy that

1123
00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:41,859
will drive jobs.

1124
00:33:41,860 --> 00:33:43,759
And will drive the right kind of

1125
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,679
development in order

1126
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,699
to create the opportunity for

1127
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:49,119
the children of people who live in

1128
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:50,999
northern Wisconsin to stay in these

1129
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,859
communities and contribute

1130
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:54,559
to the prosperity and the vitality

1131
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:55,839
that so many people have enjoyed

1132
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,099
here for so many generations.

1133
00:33:58,649 --> 00:34:00,609
Mrs. Murray, a promise you can make

1134
00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:01,749
to voters.

1135
00:34:01,750 --> 00:34:03,789
Thank you my

1136
00:34:03,790 --> 00:34:05,809
promise is to not stand

1137
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:07,629
on promises or

1138
00:34:07,630 --> 00:34:10,388
platforms but to focus on results.

1139
00:34:10,389 --> 00:34:12,448
I think that this district

1140
00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:14,769
number one has felt ignored

1141
00:34:14,770 --> 00:34:16,789
for far too long and

1142
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:18,448
when folks aren't coming in to

1143
00:34:18,449 --> 00:34:19,888
gather information and to learn

1144
00:34:19,889 --> 00:34:21,948
about what's needed you cannot

1145
00:34:21,949 --> 00:34:24,349
get the job done for folks so I am

1146
00:34:24,350 --> 00:34:26,669
results oriented and

1147
00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:28,329
to be able to get those results

1148
00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:29,948
number one I have to be accountable

1149
00:34:29,949 --> 00:34:32,289
to folks and show up once

1150
00:34:32,290 --> 00:34:33,290
in each

1151
00:34:37,230 --> 00:34:38,888
that's available so every time

1152
00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:40,829
there's a vote going up folks can

1153
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:42,049
chime in and tell me what their

1154
00:34:42,050 --> 00:34:43,448
thoughts are about the votes that

1155
00:34:43,449 --> 00:34:44,718
I'll be taking.

1156
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,638
Number two um to

1157
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:48,599
be accountable to what I what

1158
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,698
I stand for which is following the

1159
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:52,359
law and holding other people

1160
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:53,579
accountable when they're not

1161
00:34:53,580 --> 00:34:55,539
following the law and number

1162
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,599
three to hold me accountable

1163
00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,239
for getting results so that we have

1164
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:01,099
progress in the northwoods

1165
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,339
on the affordability of housing on

1166
00:35:03,340 --> 00:35:05,399
quality health care that's available

1167
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,279
to all people in the

1168
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,779
northern district so that you don't

1169
00:35:08,780 --> 00:35:10,639
have to cross county lines to get

1170
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,459
to OB-GYN that you don't

1171
00:35:12,460 --> 00:35:13,939
have to go to two different doctors

1172
00:35:13,940 --> 00:35:15,599
in order to have appointments for

1173
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,279
the next appointment.

1174
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,879
So, results-oriented,

1175
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,719
holding me accountable to everything

1176
00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,499
that I say tonight, to everything

1177
00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:25,059
that I've said to anyone during this

1178
00:35:25,060 --> 00:35:27,599
campaign, results oriented,

1179
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,600
hold me accountable.

1180
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,599
Our next question will go to Mr.

1181
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,879
Clark next.

1182
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,799
Just in the past 24 hours,

1183
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,559
tensions with Iran have escalated

1184
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,299
again, with the U.S.

1185
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:39,699
Carrying out additional military

1186
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:40,619
strikes.

1187
00:35:40,620 --> 00:35:42,539
If these tensions continue, Congress

1188
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:44,479
may be asked to authorize military

1189
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,339
action, approve additional

1190
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:48,139
funding, or weigh in on the

1191
00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:49,659
president's war powers.

1192
00:35:49,660 --> 00:35:51,639
So if elected, what role should the

1193
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,559
United States play in confronting

1194
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,760
Iran? Mr. Clarke.

1195
00:35:56,170 --> 00:35:58,189
Well, we are in a very

1196
00:35:58,190 --> 00:35:59,889
difficult situation in Iran right

1197
00:35:59,890 --> 00:36:02,109
now, and there is a reason

1198
00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:03,309
that U.S.

1199
00:36:03,310 --> 00:36:05,629
Presidents, Republican and Democrat,

1200
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,649
going back to Jimmy Carter,

1201
00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:10,009
have realized that attacking Iran

1202
00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:11,949
would be a mistake that

1203
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:13,849
would bring risks that

1204
00:36:13,850 --> 00:36:15,709
would threaten both the U.

1205
00:36:15,710 --> 00:36:17,529
S. And the global economy.

1206
00:36:17,530 --> 00:36:19,609
This administration, unfortunately,

1207
00:36:19,610 --> 00:36:21,549
never learned that lesson and

1208
00:36:21,550 --> 00:36:23,509
took us to war with No oversight

1209
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:25,609
and no consultation with the U.S.

1210
00:36:25,610 --> 00:36:26,610
Congress.

1211
00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:29,069
With a lack of

1212
00:36:29,070 --> 00:36:30,969
planning that has resulted in

1213
00:36:30,970 --> 00:36:33,009
what right now we can only

1214
00:36:33,010 --> 00:36:35,309
characterize as a quagmire and

1215
00:36:35,310 --> 00:36:37,069
and the president sending his

1216
00:36:37,070 --> 00:36:39,049
son-in-law and his buddy over

1217
00:36:39,050 --> 00:36:40,609
to negotiate with the Iranians who

1218
00:36:40,610 --> 00:36:42,429
are hard-nosed smart

1219
00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:44,509
people was was almost

1220
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:46,389
guaranteed to result in

1221
00:36:46,390 --> 00:36:48,209
a deal that fell

1222
00:36:48,210 --> 00:36:50,189
apart and put the United States

1223
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:51,389
in one of the weakest positions

1224
00:36:51,390 --> 00:36:53,789
we've been in global affairs in

1225
00:36:53,790 --> 00:36:55,359
many, many years.

1226
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,479
Congress needs to first re-assume

1227
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,879
the authority over war powers,

1228
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,819
and this administration needs to be

1229
00:37:01,820 --> 00:37:03,319
talking to Congress right now for

1230
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,979
any new authority for hostilities

1231
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:05,980
against Iran.

1232
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,079
And we need to figure out a way to

1233
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,119
bring stability to this region,

1234
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,439
including stability to our oil

1235
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,279
markets, because every single

1236
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,259
American right now is

1237
00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:18,219
paying more because

1238
00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:20,059
of what this war has caused,

1239
00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:22,439
and the president seems to be

1240
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,179
uninterested in figuring out to

1241
00:37:24,180 --> 00:37:25,180
solve it.

1242
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:27,999
Mrs. Murray, same question.

1243
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,719
Thank you.

1244
00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:31,119
Talking about the war is just

1245
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,819
difficult from the get-go.

1246
00:37:32,820 --> 00:37:34,859
You know, so I have

1247
00:37:34,860 --> 00:37:36,659
seen my dad with his friends who

1248
00:37:36,660 --> 00:37:38,019
were in Vietnam and what happened to

1249
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,439
them from what they saw when they

1250
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:40,319
were there.

1251
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,139
I have friends and cousins who

1252
00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:44,259
were in Iraq when

1253
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:45,639
I was off in college.

1254
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,479
And to imagine us

1255
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,359
increasing it, you have

1256
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,959
to realize we're gonna be looking at

1257
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,349
boots on the ground.

1258
00:37:55,350 --> 00:37:57,169
This was an unconstitutional

1259
00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:58,689
war to begin with.

1260
00:37:58,690 --> 00:38:00,549
Our president failed to do what he

1261
00:38:00,550 --> 00:38:01,610
was supposed to do.

1262
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,540
I'm opposed to this war.

1263
00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:09,099
Not only is it a bad choice and

1264
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,319
it's unconstitutional, we don't

1265
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,119
have what a country should have if

1266
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,439
you're going to declare war.

1267
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:16,879
We don't our allies.

1268
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,459
This administration has

1269
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,319
burned so many bridges with

1270
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,699
the people that we have always been

1271
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,579
able to count on as

1272
00:38:25,580 --> 00:38:27,539
our allies, we need

1273
00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:29,699
to be rebuilding relationships.

1274
00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,859
Not bombing schools

1275
00:38:31,860 --> 00:38:34,479
full of children, not bombing

1276
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,099
colleges full of researchers.

1277
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:38,659
I can remember with the next morning

1278
00:38:38,660 --> 00:38:40,019
we were told that this is about a

1279
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:41,499
change of regime.

1280
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:43,019
Then the next day the message was,

1281
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:44,079
we just have to make sure that they

1282
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,299
don't have a nuclear weapon.

1283
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,299
And we have weapons that have

1284
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:49,239
laser precision aim.

1285
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,159
And yet we're responsible for

1286
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,939
the death of 150 children in a

1287
00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:54,619
school. This needs to come to an

1288
00:38:54,620 --> 00:38:56,519
end. I would vote against

1289
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,499
giving more money for this war.

1290
00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:01,040
And finally, Mr. Armstrong.

1291
00:39:02,370 --> 00:39:04,229
Yeah, this puts the, you know, the

1292
00:39:04,230 --> 00:39:05,510
Congress and the American people, I

1293
00:39:05,511 --> 00:39:07,309
think, in a pretty tough position.

1294
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:09,149
I mean, you gotta hand it to

1295
00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:10,869
President Trump.

1296
00:39:10,870 --> 00:39:13,409
You know, most presidents,

1297
00:39:13,410 --> 00:39:14,809
or a lot of presidents, are engaged

1298
00:39:14,810 --> 00:39:16,669
by affordability and the price

1299
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:19,109
of gas. And to be quite honest,

1300
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:21,029
the policies of the

1301
00:39:21,030 --> 00:39:23,009
administration, of any

1302
00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:24,429
administration in Congress, really

1303
00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:26,369
don't have a lot to do with that.

1304
00:39:26,370 --> 00:39:28,449
And it's just remarkable that

1305
00:39:28,450 --> 00:39:30,769
President Trump did the one thing.

1306
00:39:30,770 --> 00:39:32,729
That was going to guarantee to

1307
00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:35,389
increase gas prices,

1308
00:39:35,390 --> 00:39:36,869
fertilizer and chemical prices.

1309
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:39,149
It's just astounding how stupid

1310
00:39:39,150 --> 00:39:41,029
and imbecilic this move

1311
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,389
has been.

1312
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:44,229
And one of the big problems is not

1313
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:46,069
only did he

1314
00:39:46,070 --> 00:39:47,909
not consult Congress, which

1315
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:50,109
as Ginger and Fred said is a

1316
00:39:50,110 --> 00:39:53,069
constitutional responsibility,

1317
00:39:53,070 --> 00:39:54,969
because again, this was not an

1318
00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:55,809
imminent attack.

1319
00:39:55,810 --> 00:39:58,069
This was not a provocation.

1320
00:39:58,070 --> 00:39:59,850
This was totally a

1321
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:04,999
a war of choice

1322
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,919
and you know we

1323
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,939
did it alone and

1324
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:10,499
you know so you know Trump gets

1325
00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:12,399
pissed off because you know wants

1326
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,259
to cut off trade to Spain because

1327
00:40:14,260 --> 00:40:15,999
you know they didn't allow our

1328
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,859
airplanes to refuel

1329
00:40:17,860 --> 00:40:19,119
at their air bases.

1330
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,359
Well I don't blame them.

1331
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,579
We didn't talk to Spain.

1332
00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:23,679
We didn't tell anybody in NATO about

1333
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,139
what was going on.

1334
00:40:25,140 --> 00:40:26,639
How are we going to get out of this?

1335
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:27,719
I'm not really sure.

1336
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:28,579
I don't know.

1337
00:40:28,580 --> 00:40:30,019
It's going to be really tough for

1338
00:40:30,020 --> 00:40:31,959
America to save

1339
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,559
face in this incredible debacle.

1340
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,339
But I'm sure there's something we

1341
00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:36,529
can do about it.

1342
00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:37,809
It's time for us to take a short

1343
00:40:37,810 --> 00:40:39,369
break. We'll be back in about eight

1344
00:40:39,370 --> 00:40:40,189
minutes.

1345
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:41,169
During our break, our chief

1346
00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:42,669
meteorologist, Jeff Weller, will

1347
00:40:42,670 --> 00:40:44,269
have a forecast for you.

1348
00:40:44,270 --> 00:40:45,949
We will return with more questions

1349
00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:47,010
with the candidates shortly.

1350
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,059
I believe you have everything

1351
00:40:57,060 --> 00:40:59,019
it takes.

1352
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:00,099
I've always wanted to do this.

1353
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,819
AGT, tonight on NBC in

1354
00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:09,820
Pink.

1355
00:41:10,110 --> 00:41:11,459
Where

1356
00:41:11,460 --> 00:41:12,820
I'm watching now, oh my god.

1357
00:41:14,510 --> 00:41:16,609
Tonight, it's the Real Housewives

1358
00:41:16,610 --> 00:41:17,869
of Password finale.

1359
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:22,030
Make it nice.

1360
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:27,559
What if there was a place where

1361
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,379
every kid got a chance to be

1362
00:41:29,380 --> 00:41:30,719
great?

1363
00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:32,719
There is a place and there's

1364
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,979
no other place like it

1365
00:41:34,980 --> 00:41:37,219
It's my school Milton Hershey

1366
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:39,139
school Our

1367
00:41:39,140 --> 00:41:41,019
founders were Milton Hershee the

1368
00:41:41,020 --> 00:41:42,879
famous chocolate maker and his wife

1369
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,799
Catherine They wanted to

1370
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,799
help children who didn't have much

1371
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,619
To create a place that was

1372
00:41:48,620 --> 00:41:50,519
safe The Hershey's

1373
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,959
believe learnings shouldn't have a

1374
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,799
price So we don't pay

1375
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,079
anything to go to school here.

1376
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,119
Everything we need is taken care

1377
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:58,919
of.

1378
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,539
Even a place to live with other

1379
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:02,579
students, our eight, with

1380
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:04,159
caring house parents to watch over

1381
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,160
us.

1382
00:42:06,140 --> 00:42:08,039
In our homes, we learn to

1383
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,239
accept and appreciate one another.

1384
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:11,779
Because the things that make us

1385
00:42:11,780 --> 00:42:13,480
different bring us together.

1386
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,719
Our classrooms, they have no

1387
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:17,539
walls.

1388
00:42:17,540 --> 00:42:19,719
We learn by doing through programs

1389
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,479
that give us an early start on

1390
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,020
college and our careers.

1391
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:25,739
You're saying we're more than a

1392
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:27,919
school. We're a community,

1393
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,519
we change lives.

1394
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,619
I know because this place changed

1395
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:32,939
mine.

1396
00:42:32,940 --> 00:42:34,879
Milton Hershey once said that if

1397
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,959
he could provide for 100 kids,

1398
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,299
it would be worth it.

1399
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:40,139
But look at us now, more

1400
00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:42,779
than a century of memories.

1401
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:45,139
And there's still more good to do.

1402
00:42:45,140 --> 00:42:46,959
Because here, we have the

1403
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,759
chance to be great.

1404
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,459
And you, you can be next.

1405
00:43:56,350 --> 00:43:58,329
All right we are in can you

1406
00:43:58,330 --> 00:44:00,369
find a cloud mode across the area

1407
00:44:00,370 --> 00:44:01,889
today plenty of sunshine high

1408
00:44:01,890 --> 00:44:03,249
temperatures back in the 90s

1409
00:44:03,250 --> 00:44:04,789
tomorrow those more clouds across

1410
00:44:04,790 --> 00:44:06,909
the region and slightly

1411
00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:08,909
cooler tomorrow the average

1412
00:44:08,910 --> 00:44:10,869
high 80 either average low 55

1413
00:44:10,870 --> 00:44:13,009
will have lows tonight down near 70

1414
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:14,509
after high stay in the mid 90s

1415
00:44:14,510 --> 00:44:16,789
across the air that record high 102

1416
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:18,749
back in 1936 and

1417
00:44:18,750 --> 00:44:20,869
the sun sets now at 8 45 these

1418
00:44:20,870 --> 00:44:22,629
days okay going forward though so

1419
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:24,629
slightly cooler tomorrow the

1420
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:26,829
high of 92 for us on

1421
00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:28,869
Thursday, 85 for Friday, but look,

1422
00:44:28,870 --> 00:44:30,669
there's some 70s back in the 70

1423
00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:32,609
forecast, but they are, of

1424
00:44:32,610 --> 00:44:34,129
course, a week away.

1425
00:44:34,130 --> 00:44:35,729
All right, not just heat, also

1426
00:44:35,730 --> 00:44:37,789
incredibly humid outside dew points,

1427
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:39,529
upper 60s, low 70s.

1428
00:44:39,530 --> 00:44:40,889
It's like Key West tropical out

1429
00:44:40,890 --> 00:44:42,849
there. We have the heat, the

1430
00:44:42,850 --> 00:44:43,629
humidity.

1431
00:44:43,630 --> 00:44:45,569
Also, there is not a big breeze in

1432
00:44:45,570 --> 00:44:47,369
the area at all, the coolest down,

1433
00:44:47,370 --> 00:44:49,169
likely going calm again tonight.

1434
00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:50,709
So as temperatures meet the dew

1435
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:52,349
points tonight, we'll likely get

1436
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:53,849
some dense fog once again.

1437
00:44:53,850 --> 00:44:55,009
If you're out driving, you know, 3,

1438
00:44:55,010 --> 00:44:57,029
4, 5, 6 a.m., likely that

1439
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:59,209
dense fog in the area before

1440
00:44:59,210 --> 00:45:00,469
sunrise tomorrow morning.

1441
00:45:00,470 --> 00:45:01,509
Okay, we're going forward though, so

1442
00:45:01,510 --> 00:45:03,169
outside now, lots of clear skies for

1443
00:45:03,170 --> 00:45:05,149
us, but looking to the west, this

1444
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:07,069
ridge, this big heat dome

1445
00:45:07,070 --> 00:45:09,109
ridge, is eventually gonna break

1446
00:45:09,110 --> 00:45:10,829
down, beginning as soon as late

1447
00:45:10,830 --> 00:45:12,129
tomorrow, but more so throughout the

1448
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:14,109
day, on Thursday into Friday, and

1449
00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:15,889
finally some rainfall is back in the

1450
00:45:15,890 --> 00:45:17,889
forecast for us especially on

1451
00:45:17,890 --> 00:45:19,409
Friday. So tomorrow, increasing

1452
00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:20,929
clouds throughout the days, tomorrow

1453
00:45:20,930 --> 00:45:22,789
evening, some showers north of our

1454
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:24,849
area, and then really by Thursday it

1455
00:45:24,850 --> 00:45:26,169
begins to kind of sag down our

1456
00:45:26,170 --> 00:45:27,549
direction and there is definitely

1457
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,089
some good rain in the forecast for

1458
00:45:29,090 --> 00:45:30,129
us on Friday.

1459
00:45:30,130 --> 00:45:31,169
Our forecast going forward though

1460
00:45:31,170 --> 00:45:32,169
look at this right cooler

1461
00:45:32,170 --> 00:45:33,489
temperatures are on the way just

1462
00:45:33,490 --> 00:45:35,229
hold on a slight chance for rain

1463
00:45:35,230 --> 00:45:37,069
showers on Thursday a pretty

1464
00:45:37,070 --> 00:45:38,569
good chance for storms on Friday

1465
00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:40,149
into Saturday morning then Sunday

1466
00:45:40,150 --> 00:45:41,509
looks great probably cloudy skies

1467
00:45:41,510 --> 00:45:43,289
and high temperatures back in the

1468
00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:44,290
mid 80s.

1469
00:45:46,150 --> 00:45:47,689
The other guys say they cover local

1470
00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:49,489
news, but their focus is everywhere

1471
00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:50,349
else.

1472
00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:51,809
At NewsWatch 12, local isn't a

1473
00:45:51,810 --> 00:45:53,549
slogan, it's a promise.

1474
00:45:53,550 --> 00:45:55,489
News from where you live, because we

1475
00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:56,490
mean it.

1476
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:59,849
I believe you have everything

1477
00:46:59,850 --> 00:47:01,769
it takes.

1478
00:47:01,770 --> 00:47:02,829
I've always wanted to do this.

1479
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,539
AGT, tonight on NBC and

1480
00:47:11,540 --> 00:47:12,540
Peacock.

1481
00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:14,309
I swear.

1482
00:47:14,310 --> 00:47:15,489
Watch it now, oh my god.

1483
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:19,319
Tonight, it's the Real Housewives

1484
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,840
of Password Finale.

1485
00:47:22,190 --> 00:47:24,089
Reunions, we're ready to make

1486
00:47:24,090 --> 00:47:24,769
it nice.

1487
00:47:24,770 --> 00:47:26,709
Last word tonight on NBC and

1488
00:47:26,710 --> 00:47:27,539
Peacock.

1489
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,459
I'm Ginger Murray,

1490
00:47:29,460 --> 00:47:31,119
born and raised in Wisconsin.

1491
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:32,759
I grew up here in the Northwoods.

1492
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,299
I've spent my entire career

1493
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,379
advocating for children and

1494
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:38,359
families. Like many of you,

1495
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,719
I am fed up with the federal

1496
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,579
government cutting taxes

1497
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:43,159
for billionaires while cutting

1498
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,839
services for the people who need it

1499
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,339
in the northwoods, I'm a straight

1500
00:47:46,340 --> 00:47:47,340
shooter.

1501
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,719
It's past time to blast

1502
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:51,380
tax breaks for billionaries.

1503
00:47:52,650 --> 00:47:54,089
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1504
00:47:54,090 --> 00:47:55,369
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1505
00:47:55,370 --> 00:47:56,869
your vote. No actual animals were

1506
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:59,409
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1507
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1508
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1509
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My settlement?

1510
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That's taking a really long time.

1511
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:06,769
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1512
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:08,329
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1513
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1514
00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:18,019
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1515
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1516
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,039
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1517
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,899
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1518
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:26,539
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1520
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1521
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1522
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:33,639
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1523
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1524
00:48:36,180 --> 00:48:37,859
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1525
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1526
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1527
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1529
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1530
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1531
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1532
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1533
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1534
00:48:52,450 --> 00:48:53,769
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1535
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1536
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:08,859
Primary debate.

1537
00:49:08,860 --> 00:49:10,679
Our first question will go to Mrs.

1538
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:11,459
Murray.

1539
00:49:11,460 --> 00:49:12,899
The Trump administration has called

1540
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,039
for increasing timber production

1541
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,799
on federal lands.

1542
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,239
While many in the industry argue

1543
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,039
that the bigger problem isn't the

1544
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,959
timber supply, it's the loss

1545
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,779
of paper and pulp mills like

1546
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:25,439
the ones in Wisconsin Rapids and

1547
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,039
Park Falls that process it.

1548
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,059
Which should Congress focus on?

1549
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:31,879
Increasing logging on public

1550
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,779
plans, investing in new

1551
00:49:33,780 --> 00:49:35,569
wood processing facilities.

1552
00:49:35,570 --> 00:49:36,769
Or something else.

1553
00:49:36,770 --> 00:49:38,179
This is Murray.

1554
00:49:38,180 --> 00:49:40,139
Thank you, Dan.

1555
00:49:40,140 --> 00:49:42,279
That is something that has

1556
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,959
been on my radar for a very long

1557
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:45,719
time. Having grown up in Forest

1558
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:47,559
County, I have many

1559
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,859
cousins that rely on Timber Harvest

1560
00:49:49,860 --> 00:49:51,679
as their means of supporting

1561
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,119
their families.

1562
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,039
Those cousins who used to like have

1563
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,239
fun with me and let me hang out as

1564
00:49:56,240 --> 00:49:57,959
one of the guys in the group.

1565
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,059
When I was at a fundraiser for

1566
00:50:00,060 --> 00:50:02,319
the shooting range

1567
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,099
kids at the school.

1568
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:06,019
My cousin said to me,

1569
00:50:06,020 --> 00:50:07,599
Jennifer, we're facing bankruptcy in

1570
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,099
about three years.

1571
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:10,999
And I said, are you kidding me?

1572
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,979
Like, your family has always done so

1573
00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:15,139
well in the forestry business.

1574
00:50:15,140 --> 00:50:17,119
And he said, no, the mills

1575
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:18,159
are shutting down. We don't have a

1576
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,679
place to take our our wood.

1577
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,139
And that not only affects the folks

1578
00:50:22,140 --> 00:50:23,419
who are in the woods cutting it, but

1579
00:50:23,420 --> 00:50:24,999
also then my other cousin who drives

1580
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,819
truck to haul the

1581
00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:28,859
wood out of the forest

1582
00:50:28,860 --> 00:50:30,799
are in trouble.

1583
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,699
So I have been

1584
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,259
trying to figure out what can

1585
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:35,859
Congress do to help the folks that I

1586
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:37,519
call family in Forest County and

1587
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:39,099
across the district.

1588
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:40,699
So we have the cross-laminated

1589
00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:42,719
timber which is now a product that

1590
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:44,439
can be used in substitute for the

1591
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:45,639
steel beams.

1592
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,139
I know they're looking for ways to

1593
00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:50,059
use this the biomass pulp

1594
00:50:50,060 --> 00:50:51,859
for like fuel.

1595
00:50:51,860 --> 00:50:53,899
They were looking at you know

1596
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:55,739
creating clean fuel from

1597
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:56,740
from the remnants.

1598
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,779
It is about finding places that

1599
00:50:59,780 --> 00:51:01,539
will use it.

1600
00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:03,999
And we talked today about perhaps

1601
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,899
data centers could be using

1602
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:07,719
biomass fuel from the

1603
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:09,119
timber industry for their energy.

1604
00:51:10,890 --> 00:51:12,170
Mr. Armstrong, same question.

1605
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:14,879
I see well you know generally

1606
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,959
speaking you know when when I'm

1607
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,839
seated in Congress I

1608
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,119
will certainly defer to Fred and

1609
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,119
be given him a call on forestry

1610
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,919
policies since that is his expertise

1611
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,879
so

1612
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,919
you know I you know learning lessons

1613
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,799
from the past you know

1614
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,639
there's virtually no you know old

1615
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,559
growth forest left in Wisconsin so

1616
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,759
I do not believe that doing

1617
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,599
more Timber

1618
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,539
in our national forests is

1619
00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:42,159
the right answer you're doing that,

1620
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,759
you know responsibly as it relates

1621
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,699
to The environment

1622
00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:47,199
is absolutely essential.

1623
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,599
I think the

1624
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,439
Repealing of the roadless rule

1625
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,999
is going to cause, you, know

1626
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,479
widespread devastation to our

1627
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,809
ecosystem Uh, that being said,

1628
00:51:56,810 --> 00:51:58,469
you know, Ginger also brought up

1629
00:51:58,470 --> 00:51:59,429
some good points.

1630
00:51:59,430 --> 00:52:01,249
You know, I think, uh, you, I really

1631
00:52:01,250 --> 00:52:03,109
don't know why the

1632
00:52:03,110 --> 00:52:04,689
wood pulp processing plants are

1633
00:52:04,690 --> 00:52:06,029
closing and guess it has something

1634
00:52:06,030 --> 00:52:07,429
to do with economics and supply

1635
00:52:07,430 --> 00:52:09,469
chains, but you know if there's

1636
00:52:09,470 --> 00:52:11,149
opportunities to diversify that

1637
00:52:11,150 --> 00:52:12,489
industry, I think we should explore

1638
00:52:12,490 --> 00:52:14,929
them. And like Ginger said,

1639
00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:16,949
uh there is some investment going on

1640
00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:19,069
in the Hayward area around, uh

1641
00:52:19,070 --> 00:52:20,919
using the, uh The

1642
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,879
remnants of the sawdust and scraps

1643
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,139
for sustainable aviation fuel,

1644
00:52:25,140 --> 00:52:26,359
that's I think a real big

1645
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,959
opportunity because most of the

1646
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,739
world's airlines have committed to

1647
00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:31,699
transitioning to that by

1648
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:33,759
I think 2040 or so,

1649
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:35,599
as well as again, laminated

1650
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:36,879
wood products.

1651
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,259
So timber is still gonna be a part

1652
00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:39,759
of Wisconsin's history, just we got

1653
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,699
to figure out how to make it

1654
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:42,059
economically viable and sustainable.

1655
00:52:43,250 --> 00:52:44,570
Now to Mr. Clark, same question.

1656
00:52:45,780 --> 00:52:47,879
I've spent most of my career

1657
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,479
thinking about forests, managing

1658
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,899
forests, and try to make that

1659
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:53,499
entire forest sector work.

1660
00:52:53,500 --> 00:52:55,439
And right now, we

1661
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,319
don't have a supply

1662
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:58,099
problem.

1663
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,779
We already grow a tremendous amount

1664
00:52:59,780 --> 00:53:01,379
of timber in this state.

1665
00:53:01,380 --> 00:53:02,859
We have a demand problem.

1666
00:53:02,860 --> 00:53:04,319
And the president's executive order

1667
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,939
to increase timber supply will do

1668
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:08,019
nothing to help the forest sector

1669
00:53:08,020 --> 00:53:09,409
that makes up.

1670
00:53:09,410 --> 00:53:11,229
About fifteen percent of the

1671
00:53:11,230 --> 00:53:12,649
gross domestic product of northern

1672
00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:14,509
wisconsin this is the single

1673
00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:16,749
biggest economic sector that we have

1674
00:53:16,750 --> 00:53:18,949
and it's declining as

1675
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:20,189
ginger and chris both pointed out

1676
00:53:20,190 --> 00:53:21,829
the pulp and paper sector which

1677
00:53:21,830 --> 00:53:23,879
wisconsin has been number one in

1678
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,679
has been declining year after year

1679
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,239
for the last 20 years.

1680
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:29,139
And with those mills goes jobs, and

1681
00:53:29,140 --> 00:53:30,399
with those mills, goes the ability

1682
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,459
to manage forest by the states,

1683
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:34,239
the counties, and the Schwalming and

1684
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:35,579
Nicolet National Forest, which is

1685
00:53:35,580 --> 00:53:36,739
actually one of the most productive

1686
00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:38,439
timber forests in the country.

1687
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,079
So what's the solution?

1688
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,919
Well, we need to invest

1689
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:43,479
in new product development.

1690
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,999
Something has got to replace pulp

1691
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,059
and paper.

1692
00:53:46,060 --> 00:53:47,919
Biofuels is one excellent example.

1693
00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:50,779
There's concerns about what biofuels

1694
00:53:50,780 --> 00:53:51,780
would mean.

1695
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,619
I organized a meeting last

1696
00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:56,479
month between members of the Lakuta

1697
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,799
Ray Tribe in Hayward and

1698
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,939
folks seeking to develop a biofuel

1699
00:54:00,940 --> 00:54:02,839
plant in Haywood to help bridge

1700
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,139
understanding and bring people

1701
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:05,379
together to better understand what

1702
00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:06,879
that opportunity means and how we

1703
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,859
can secure that investment without

1704
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:10,279
threatening the sustainability of

1705
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:11,539
the resource. That's really what

1706
00:54:11,540 --> 00:54:12,899
it's all about, but I want to bring

1707
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:14,119
that experience to Congress.

1708
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:15,599
I want bring that to experience to

1709
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:16,600
northern Wisconsin.

1710
00:54:17,950 --> 00:54:19,209
Mr. Clark, we're going to go right

1711
00:54:19,210 --> 00:54:21,109
back to you for this question.

1712
00:54:21,110 --> 00:54:23,129
Snowmobile season has become shorter

1713
00:54:23,130 --> 00:54:24,549
and less reliable in northern

1714
00:54:24,550 --> 00:54:26,289
Wisconsin, creating challenges for

1715
00:54:26,290 --> 00:54:27,749
businesses that depend on winter

1716
00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:28,989
tourism.

1717
00:54:28,990 --> 00:54:30,249
What should Congress do, if

1718
00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,509
anything, to address climate change

1719
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:34,329
and protect communities whose

1720
00:54:34,330 --> 00:54:36,889
economies rely on winter recreation,

1721
00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:38,709
while keeping in mind energy prices

1722
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:40,409
have never been higher?

1723
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:41,099
Mr. Clarke?

1724
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,259
It's a great question and you

1725
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:44,819
know in the last year and a half

1726
00:54:44,820 --> 00:54:46,639
climate change has sort of gone

1727
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,979
away from the conversation but

1728
00:54:48,980 --> 00:54:50,679
we're talking about it and thinking

1729
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,019
about it in lots of different ways

1730
00:54:52,020 --> 00:54:53,679
and for for people selling

1731
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,179
snowmobiles or riding snowmobile

1732
00:54:55,180 --> 00:54:57,999
that shorter winter season is

1733
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,999
something that affects everybody and

1734
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,559
people are talking about and

1735
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,419
everybody can remember one or two

1736
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:04,719
seasons back when we had a winter

1737
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:05,800
with almost no snow.

1738
00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:09,219
Likewise in the logging industry

1739
00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:10,679
that shorter winter season means

1740
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,199
loggers can operate for a shorter

1741
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,799
period of year in the winter That

1742
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,999
makes them less efficient.

1743
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,459
It makes it much more difficult for

1744
00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:18,319
them to be profitable if you're

1745
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,019
farming if you are growing apples

1746
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:22,619
If you're a community that's been

1747
00:55:22,620 --> 00:55:24,020
subjected to flash flooding

1748
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:26,949
or subjected to high extreme

1749
00:55:26,950 --> 00:55:28,629
heat like we're experiencing right

1750
00:55:28,630 --> 00:55:30,569
now. Climate change is touching

1751
00:55:30,570 --> 00:55:32,369
our communities, it's touching our

1752
00:55:32,370 --> 00:55:34,209
land and water, it is touching our

1753
00:55:34,210 --> 00:55:36,609
people in so many different ways.

1754
00:55:36,610 --> 00:55:38,449
We can't ignore this problem.

1755
00:55:38,450 --> 00:55:39,909
The federal government needs to move

1756
00:55:39,910 --> 00:55:41,429
back to a commitment to reduce

1757
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:43,069
greenhouse gasses and then we need

1758
00:55:43,070 --> 00:55:45,089
to make the investments to help our

1759
00:55:45,090 --> 00:55:47,069
communities be ready for the

1760
00:55:47,070 --> 00:55:48,609
changing effects of the climate.

1761
00:55:48,610 --> 00:55:50,069
That includes watershed management

1762
00:55:50,070 --> 00:55:51,559
includes better farming.

1763
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,819
It includes climate-oriented

1764
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:55,879
forest management and it includes

1765
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,399
helping our recreational industries

1766
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,939
like snowmobiling and skiing prepare

1767
00:55:59,940 --> 00:56:01,819
for seasons that are

1768
00:56:01,820 --> 00:56:02,959
going to be very different than what

1769
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,259
we've all grown up with and been

1770
00:56:04,260 --> 00:56:05,199
used to.

1771
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,959
And I've spent a lot of my career

1772
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,259
working on climate change and I want

1773
00:56:08,260 --> 00:56:09,260
to become part of that.

1774
00:56:10,290 --> 00:56:11,969
And Mrs. Murray, same question.

1775
00:56:11,970 --> 00:56:13,109
What should the federal government

1776
00:56:13,110 --> 00:56:14,769
do about climate change, if

1777
00:56:14,770 --> 00:56:15,909
anything?

1778
00:56:15,910 --> 00:56:17,449
Thank you, Dan.

1779
00:56:17,450 --> 00:56:18,909
So something not a lot of folks know

1780
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:21,069
about me, while I was in law school,

1781
00:56:21,070 --> 00:56:23,109
I studied environmental law.

1782
00:56:23,110 --> 00:56:25,069
In fact, I was the president of the

1783
00:56:25,070 --> 00:56:26,429
Environmental Law Club for two

1784
00:56:26,430 --> 00:56:28,349
years, and I received a scholarship

1785
00:56:28,350 --> 00:56:31,009
to go to the ALIABI

1786
00:56:31,010 --> 00:56:32,929
Conference in Washington, DC,

1787
00:56:32,930 --> 00:56:34,889
my third year in law School.

1788
00:56:34,890 --> 00:56:36,789
First of all, let's just use the

1789
00:56:36,790 --> 00:56:38,129
laws that have been on the books for

1790
00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:39,949
a long time, Clean Air Act, the

1791
00:56:39,950 --> 00:56:41,849
Clean Water Act, and allow

1792
00:56:41,850 --> 00:56:43,509
the EPA, the Environmental

1793
00:56:43,510 --> 00:56:45,129
Protection Agency, to do the work

1794
00:56:45,130 --> 00:56:47,249
they were intended to do.

1795
00:56:47,250 --> 00:56:48,749
What's happened is those laws have

1796
00:56:48,750 --> 00:56:50,569
been stripped back so that folks

1797
00:56:50,570 --> 00:56:51,949
don't have the enforcement rights

1798
00:56:51,950 --> 00:56:53,459
that we used to have.

1799
00:56:53,460 --> 00:56:54,939
And I know that that causes some

1800
00:56:54,940 --> 00:56:57,059
manufacturers to be worried.

1801
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:59,019
Today I was talking to the big truck

1802
00:56:59,020 --> 00:57:00,859
guys who sell semis,

1803
00:57:00,860 --> 00:57:02,199
and we talked about their concern

1804
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,799
about emission control.

1805
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,259
But when you look at these new rigs,

1806
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:06,679
they're already so far advanced from

1807
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,459
what the old diesel trucks used to

1808
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:10,439
have that I think that there's

1809
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,039
a way to bring folks together so we

1810
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:13,979
don't have to negatively impact

1811
00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:15,739
folks who are in those businesses in

1812
00:57:15,740 --> 00:57:17,079
order to be able to take care of our

1813
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,179
environment.

1814
00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:19,699
Also, we need to turn away from

1815
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:21,239
fossil fuels and being so dependent

1816
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,099
on them and turn towards

1817
00:57:23,100 --> 00:57:24,119
nature.

1818
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:26,119
Solar, wind, hydro energy

1819
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,739
is the wave of the future.

1820
00:57:27,740 --> 00:57:28,839
And we can do that without

1821
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,099
negatively impacting our farmers.

1822
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:32,919
We don't need to be putting those

1823
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,259
things in places where there's

1824
00:57:34,260 --> 00:57:35,639
nutrient rich soil.

1825
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,939
It requires collaboration across

1826
00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:39,739
industries to be able to take care

1827
00:57:39,740 --> 00:57:41,539
of our climate while still allowing

1828
00:57:41,540 --> 00:57:43,359
for people who need resources for

1829
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,819
their economy to still stay in

1830
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:45,820
business.

1831
00:57:46,290 --> 00:57:47,669
And same question to you, Mr.

1832
00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:48,670
Armstrong.

1833
00:57:48,990 --> 00:57:50,949
Well, I don't know about you guys,

1834
00:57:50,950 --> 00:57:52,169
you know, having grown up here, but

1835
00:57:52,170 --> 00:57:54,049
I swear when I was a kid, you

1836
00:57:54,050 --> 00:57:55,949
know, the snow was like this high

1837
00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:58,089
or this high.

1838
00:57:58,090 --> 00:57:59,489
And now, of course, that might have

1839
00:57:59,490 --> 00:58:01,449
been I was that tall, too.

1840
00:58:01,450 --> 00:58:02,829
But, you know, winters seem to start

1841
00:58:02,830 --> 00:58:04,149
like the end of October into

1842
00:58:04,150 --> 00:58:05,889
November, you go deer hunting, you

1843
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:07,069
could track your deer.

1844
00:58:07,070 --> 00:58:09,229
You could go start ice fishing.

1845
00:58:09,230 --> 00:58:11,049
But, you know, we've seen with our

1846
00:58:11,050 --> 00:58:12,629
own eyes.

1847
00:58:12,630 --> 00:58:14,469
You know, the ice

1848
00:58:14,470 --> 00:58:16,109
is coming in later.

1849
00:58:16,110 --> 00:58:17,589
It's going out earlier.

1850
00:58:17,590 --> 00:58:19,349
It's not snowing as much.

1851
00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:20,749
We're lucky if we have that snow

1852
00:58:20,750 --> 00:58:22,849
cover, you know, for Christmas or

1853
00:58:22,850 --> 00:58:24,189
New Year's.

1854
00:58:24,190 --> 00:58:26,029
And, you know to all the people

1855
00:58:26,030 --> 00:58:28,049
out there that might be denying

1856
00:58:28,050 --> 00:58:29,149
climate change.

1857
00:58:29,150 --> 00:58:31,109
You know I have a background in

1858
00:58:31,110 --> 00:58:32,929
science and engineering and

1859
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:34,769
I believe in these things called

1860
00:58:34,770 --> 00:58:36,019
facts.

1861
00:58:36,020 --> 00:58:37,719
And you know there you know if we

1862
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,439
think about gravity for example you

1863
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:40,819
know gravity does not care if you

1864
00:58:40,820 --> 00:58:42,559
don't believe in it if you jump off

1865
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,519
of a 10-story building you will fall

1866
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:45,959
to the earth and hurdle to your

1867
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,959
death so you know this is

1868
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,979
a real thing there are no quick

1869
00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:51,119
solutions and this is one of the

1870
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,299
things that is really really

1871
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:54,179
challenging to be able to have the

1872
00:58:54,180 --> 00:58:56,019
commitment to get over this on

1873
00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:57,259
you know two-year congressional

1874
00:58:57,260 --> 00:58:58,659
election cycles four-year

1875
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:00,719
presidential election cycles but

1876
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,449
you know for god sakes if we put,

1877
00:59:02,450 --> 00:59:04,779
you know, a man on the moon.

1878
00:59:04,780 --> 00:59:07,079
If we can build an atomic bomb,

1879
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,659
we certainly can harness the

1880
00:59:08,660 --> 00:59:10,399
innovation and hard work of the

1881
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,739
American people to solve this

1882
00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:13,599
problem. But it requires some

1883
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,559
serious investment in

1884
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,839
renewable energy and

1885
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,419
joining the world in trying to turn

1886
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:20,420
this around.

1887
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,559
Mrs. Murray, this question will go

1888
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,959
to you first.

1889
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,159
President Trump has called for the

1890
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,979
largest deportation operation

1891
00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:28,819
in US history.

1892
00:59:28,820 --> 00:59:30,579
Supporters say it's to protect the

1893
00:59:30,580 --> 00:59:31,999
rule of law and save Americans'

1894
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:32,859
jobs.

1895
00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:34,599
But Wisconsin agriculture, tourism,

1896
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,439
and manufacturing all rely on

1897
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,719
immigrant labor to varying degrees.

1898
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,439
How should Congress balance stronger

1899
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,419
immigration enforcement with the

1900
00:59:42,420 --> 00:59:44,259
workforce needs in Wisconsin?

1901
00:59:44,260 --> 00:59:44,989
Mrs. Marie.

1902
00:59:44,990 --> 00:59:46,689
Yes thank you Dan.

1903
00:59:46,690 --> 00:59:48,709
So again it's give and take

1904
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:50,049
and taking a look at the big

1905
00:59:50,050 --> 00:59:50,909
picture.

1906
00:59:50,910 --> 00:59:53,169
So what we need to look at is reform

1907
00:59:53,170 --> 00:59:55,029
on both ends of the

1908
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:57,088
spectrum. Number one,

1909
00:59:57,089 --> 00:59:59,169
we need to, as I already mentioned,

1910
00:59:59,170 --> 01:00:00,769
talk about our enforcement agency

1911
01:00:00,770 --> 01:00:02,588
following the rules when

1912
01:00:02,589 --> 01:00:03,949
they're trying to protect our

1913
01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:04,818
borders.

1914
01:00:04,819 --> 01:00:06,419
But the other side of it is we need

1915
01:00:06,420 --> 01:00:08,318
to figure out a process by

1916
01:00:08,319 --> 01:00:10,298
which people can actually, in a

1917
01:00:10,299 --> 01:00:12,239
reasonable time frame,

1918
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,579
have their paperwork processed

1919
01:00:14,580 --> 01:00:17,539
so that they can be legally here.

1920
01:00:17,540 --> 01:00:19,358
I definitely, on the west

1921
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:21,179
side of the state more

1922
01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:23,139
noticeably, is suffering from the

1923
01:00:23,140 --> 01:00:24,879
lack of labor.

1924
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,258
And they are talking specifically

1925
01:00:26,259 --> 01:00:28,219
about not being able to keep the

1926
01:00:28,220 --> 01:00:29,539
immigrants who are here with the

1927
01:00:29,540 --> 01:00:30,939
proper paperwork here.

1928
01:00:30,940 --> 01:00:32,939
And if they go home, they can't come

1929
01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:34,099
back.

1930
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,298
There is a way for us to allow

1931
01:00:36,299 --> 01:00:38,119
folks to come to this country.

1932
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,559
That is what this country is built

1933
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,039
on. We are all immigrants.

1934
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,419
We all came from somewhere else,

1935
01:00:42,420 --> 01:00:43,838
unless you're one of our indigenous

1936
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:44,798
friends.

1937
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:46,739
So we need to continue to be a

1938
01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:48,338
welcoming community.

1939
01:00:48,339 --> 01:00:49,798
However, we need to enforce laws

1940
01:00:49,799 --> 01:00:52,239
where someone is here illegally

1941
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,059
or they have.

1942
01:00:54,060 --> 01:00:55,519
Engaged in crimes while they're

1943
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,838
here. But most notably,

1944
01:00:57,839 --> 01:00:59,519
when folks talk about it as the

1945
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,379
folks who help their business, then

1946
01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:03,159
they want their immigrants to stay

1947
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:04,519
here.

1948
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,079
We just need a better process.

1949
01:01:07,420 --> 01:01:09,399
And Palmyra Jayapal,

1950
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:10,778
I hope I said that right, has done

1951
01:01:10,779 --> 01:01:12,719
an amazing job in leading discussion

1952
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,599
and I'll follow her lead for that

1953
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:15,600
reform.

1954
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:17,818
Same question out of Mr. Armstrong.

1955
01:01:17,819 --> 01:01:19,278
Hi, can you picture it again?

1956
01:01:19,279 --> 01:01:20,619
Yeah, so the question is about the

1957
01:01:20,620 --> 01:01:22,459
president's deportation efforts.

1958
01:01:22,460 --> 01:01:23,579
Do you support his immigration

1959
01:01:23,580 --> 01:01:25,119
agenda, or what would you tweak with

1960
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:26,189
it?

1961
01:01:26,190 --> 01:01:27,269
Absolutely not.

1962
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:29,729
I mean, it is just inhumane,

1963
01:01:29,730 --> 01:01:31,429
cruel, and fundamentally

1964
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:32,689
anti-American.

1965
01:01:32,690 --> 01:01:34,108
I mean as Ginger said, the United

1966
01:01:34,109 --> 01:01:36,269
States, we are a nation

1967
01:01:36,270 --> 01:01:37,329
of immigrants.

1968
01:01:37,330 --> 01:01:39,149
And not only do, you know,

1969
01:01:39,150 --> 01:01:40,769
many parts of the Seventh District's

1970
01:01:40,770 --> 01:01:42,528
economy depend on immigrant

1971
01:01:42,529 --> 01:01:44,389
workforce, immigrants are

1972
01:01:44,390 --> 01:01:46,269
actually the greatest source of

1973
01:01:46,270 --> 01:01:47,789
entrepreneurs and starters of new

1974
01:01:47,790 --> 01:01:49,889
business of any population.

1975
01:01:49,890 --> 01:01:51,629
You know, so it's a big part of the

1976
01:01:51,630 --> 01:01:53,879
lifeblood of our economy.

1977
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,899
And undocumented immigrants, you

1978
01:01:55,900 --> 01:01:57,959
know, they pay taxes, even

1979
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,519
though they're never, ever gonna see

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,338
any payback from

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01:02:01,339 --> 01:02:03,419
that as it relates to what is

1982
01:02:03,420 --> 01:02:05,278
given to citizens.

1983
01:02:05,279 --> 01:02:06,399
So, you now, immigration is

1984
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:07,679
essential.

1985
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,499
You know, what happened back in

1986
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,338
January in Minneapolis, what

1987
01:02:12,339 --> 01:02:14,459
just happened a couple of days ago

1988
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:16,318
in Texas and

1989
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:17,778
Maine is atrocious.

1990
01:02:17,779 --> 01:02:19,879
It is, you that these people must

1991
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:21,239
be held accountable. And it reminds

1992
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,548
me of a.

1993
01:02:23,549 --> 01:02:25,088
Solicited unsolicited email.

1994
01:02:25,089 --> 01:02:26,469
I got from a gentleman in Eagle

1995
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:27,469
River said, you know, what do you

1996
01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:28,449
think of?

1997
01:02:28,450 --> 01:02:29,989
President Trump's leadership and

1998
01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:31,608
what ice and CBP are doing and this

1999
01:02:31,609 --> 01:02:33,709
was back in January and I said

2000
01:02:33,710 --> 01:02:35,249
Well, not a big fan of Trump's

2001
01:02:35,250 --> 01:02:37,209
Leadership and when ice and cbp

2002
01:02:37,210 --> 01:02:38,949
are regularly violating people's

2003
01:02:38,950 --> 01:02:41,129
first second fourth fifth eighth

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01:02:41,130 --> 01:02:42,929
tenth and fourteenth amendment

2005
01:02:42,930 --> 01:02:44,949
rights These

2006
01:02:44,950 --> 01:02:46,449
people need to be held accountable

2007
01:02:46,450 --> 01:02:47,789
for their crimes against the

2008
01:02:47,790 --> 01:02:49,150
American people and he said, You

2009
01:02:49,151 --> 01:02:50,989
know, I voted for Trump and I'm

2010
01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:52,269
voting for you because I need

2011
01:02:52,270 --> 01:02:53,568
someone who's gonna stand up for the

2012
01:02:53,569 --> 01:02:54,690
rule of law and the Constitution.

2013
01:02:55,830 --> 01:02:56,880
Same question to Mr. Clark.

2014
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,139
Yeah, as Chris and Ginger pointed

2015
01:03:01,140 --> 01:03:03,179
out, we're a nation of immigrants,

2016
01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:04,639
and the vast majority of immigrants

2017
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:06,479
in America are people

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:07,739
who are trying to provide for their

2019
01:03:07,740 --> 01:03:10,439
families, to create a better life,

2020
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,099
and are hardworking, and who

2021
01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:14,059
contribute to our economy.

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01:03:14,060 --> 01:03:15,679
And there's no question that we need

2023
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:16,939
a secure border, and there's not

2024
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:18,338
question that we need immigration

2025
01:03:18,339 --> 01:03:20,599
enforcement that identifies

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01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,219
immigrants who break the law, and

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01:03:22,220 --> 01:03:23,579
when appropriate deports them.

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01:03:23,580 --> 01:03:25,419
But what this administration

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01:03:25,420 --> 01:03:27,338
has done is to create a

2030
01:03:27,339 --> 01:03:29,139
reign of terror and American

2031
01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:30,838
communities that's not making us

2032
01:03:30,839 --> 01:03:32,739
safer, but has led

2033
01:03:32,740 --> 01:03:34,798
millions of law-abiding

2034
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:36,459
people to hide in their homes

2035
01:03:36,460 --> 01:03:37,758
because of fear of the federal

2036
01:03:37,759 --> 01:03:38,659
government.

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01:03:38,660 --> 01:03:40,039
And when can you name the last time

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:41,739
the federal government was not a

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01:03:41,740 --> 01:03:43,439
source of stability and peace, but

2040
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:45,278
was a source of chaos and terror in

2041
01:03:45,279 --> 01:03:46,199
our communities?

2042
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,099
It's not only immoral,

2043
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:49,959
but it's unconstitutional, as my two

2044
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:51,559
colleagues have pointed out.

2045
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,199
But if we're talking, we talked

2046
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:54,298
about housing.

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01:03:54,299 --> 01:03:55,939
We talked about our economy.

2048
01:03:55,940 --> 01:03:57,559
We talked about health care.

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01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,479
Well, every one of those sectors is

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01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:00,778
dependent on immigrants who help

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01:04:00,779 --> 01:04:02,278
provide the services that we all

2052
01:04:02,279 --> 01:04:03,838
need. So, if this administration is

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01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:06,019
successful in deporting millions

2054
01:04:06,020 --> 01:04:07,699
of people who are working in this

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01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:09,139
country and would like to do so

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01:04:09,140 --> 01:04:10,959
legally, we are all going

2057
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:13,159
to suffer from the economic loss

2058
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,019
and all the

2059
01:04:15,020 --> 01:04:15,979
other things that will come with

2060
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:17,798
that. This Congress needs to start

2061
01:04:17,799 --> 01:04:19,439
with visa reform that would be the

2062
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,419
single Simplest most

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01:04:21,420 --> 01:04:22,959
impactful solution that we could be

2064
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,258
good into it to allow law abiding

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01:04:24,259 --> 01:04:25,439
people to work in this country

2066
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,419
legally and fill American jobs and

2067
01:04:27,420 --> 01:04:28,420
employers need

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01:04:29,450 --> 01:04:31,008
This question will go to Mr.

2069
01:04:31,009 --> 01:04:32,389
Armstrong first.

2070
01:04:32,390 --> 01:04:34,349
Democratic socialism has become a

2071
01:04:34,350 --> 01:04:35,669
larger part of the national

2072
01:04:35,670 --> 01:04:37,669
political conversation with

2073
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:38,949
several of their candidates winning

2074
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:41,508
high profile primaries this year.

2075
01:04:41,509 --> 01:04:42,989
Francesca Hong, a democratic

2076
01:04:42,990 --> 01:04:44,769
socialist, is a front runner in

2077
01:04:44,770 --> 01:04:46,568
winning the party's nomination to be

2078
01:04:46,569 --> 01:04:47,389
governor.

2079
01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:48,949
Is this a positive or negative

2080
01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:50,589
direction for the party?

2081
01:04:50,590 --> 01:04:51,889
Mr.Armstrong.

2082
01:04:51,890 --> 01:04:55,108
Well, I think parties

2083
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:57,048
need to lead

2084
01:04:57,049 --> 01:04:59,309
people to where

2085
01:04:59,310 --> 01:05:00,648
this country needs to go.

2086
01:05:00,649 --> 01:05:02,729
I'm a big fan of

2087
01:05:02,730 --> 01:05:04,789
Fran and certainly very

2088
01:05:04,790 --> 01:05:06,849
supportive of all of our other

2089
01:05:06,850 --> 01:05:08,148
gubernatorial candidates.

2090
01:05:09,850 --> 01:05:11,789
I just don't really think it makes

2091
01:05:11,790 --> 01:05:13,189
a lot of sense to get caught up in

2092
01:05:13,190 --> 01:05:14,689
all the trappings of different

2093
01:05:14,690 --> 01:05:16,249
labels. I mean if we if we're

2094
01:05:16,250 --> 01:05:18,548
talking about policies that

2095
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:20,608
are good for normal people

2096
01:05:21,980 --> 01:05:23,879
You know, the policies of

2097
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:25,358
many administrations, not just the

2098
01:05:25,359 --> 01:05:26,858
Trump administration, have favored

2099
01:05:26,859 --> 01:05:28,679
the well-connected, the

2100
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,680
super-rich.

2101
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:31,919
And, you know, like I said at the

2102
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:33,298
very beginning, we need to be

2103
01:05:33,299 --> 01:05:35,239
getting back to the work

2104
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,358
of the people.

2105
01:05:36,359 --> 01:05:37,758
I really don't care what label you

2106
01:05:37,759 --> 01:05:39,699
put on it, as long as we're

2107
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:41,739
following the

2108
01:05:41,740 --> 01:05:43,798
state model of Wisconsin forward.

2109
01:05:45,310 --> 01:05:47,229
Mr. Clark, democratic socialism,

2110
01:05:47,230 --> 01:05:48,949
what are your thoughts on it?

2111
01:05:48,950 --> 01:05:50,528
Yeah, I think it's an interesting

2112
01:05:50,529 --> 01:05:51,869
label. I'd never even heard their

2113
01:05:51,870 --> 01:05:54,129
label until a few months ago.

2114
01:05:54,130 --> 01:05:56,028
But if you want to pull apart

2115
01:05:56,029 --> 01:05:57,929
what different candidates are

2116
01:05:57,930 --> 01:05:59,849
talking about, on both sides

2117
01:05:59,850 --> 01:06:01,789
of the eye, it comes

2118
01:06:01,790 --> 01:06:03,369
down to things we've already talked

2119
01:06:03,370 --> 01:06:04,669
about today.

2120
01:06:04,670 --> 01:06:06,169
How can we afford to live in our

2121
01:06:06,170 --> 01:06:07,209
communities?

2122
01:06:07,210 --> 01:06:08,608
How can find housing that's

2123
01:06:08,609 --> 01:06:09,548
affordable and available?

2124
01:06:09,549 --> 01:06:10,929
How do we find health care that's

2125
01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:11,889
affordable and unavailable?

2126
01:06:11,890 --> 01:06:13,329
And how do we create an economy

2127
01:06:13,330 --> 01:06:15,689
where everyone can prosper and

2128
01:06:15,690 --> 01:06:17,669
fulfill some kind of a dream for

2129
01:06:17,670 --> 01:06:19,189
their lives And, and.

2130
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:20,929
Have a secure life.

2131
01:06:20,930 --> 01:06:22,909
And there's a role for government

2132
01:06:22,910 --> 01:06:24,409
in helping make sure that those

2133
01:06:24,410 --> 01:06:25,589
things can happen.

2134
01:06:25,590 --> 01:06:27,189
And if you want to go back to look

2135
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:29,148
at Republican presidents like

2136
01:06:29,149 --> 01:06:30,989
Dwight Eisenhower, a lot

2137
01:06:30,990 --> 01:06:32,389
of the things that his

2138
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:34,008
administration was talking about are

2139
01:06:34,009 --> 01:06:35,889
things that people on the other side

2140
01:06:35,890 --> 01:06:37,548
of the aisle would call socialist or

2141
01:06:37,549 --> 01:06:38,689
communist today.

2142
01:06:38,690 --> 01:06:40,089
So I don't think the labels are

2143
01:06:40,090 --> 01:06:41,269
doing us any good.

2144
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:42,929
The conversations I want to have and

2145
01:06:42,930 --> 01:06:44,048
I I'm having.

2146
01:06:44,049 --> 01:06:46,008
Are about how we help people

2147
01:06:46,009 --> 01:06:48,309
afford to live and lead healthy,

2148
01:06:48,310 --> 01:06:49,929
prosperous lives, have roads that

2149
01:06:49,930 --> 01:06:51,769
work, have education that works

2150
01:06:51,770 --> 01:06:53,809
for us and for our kids, and allows

2151
01:06:53,810 --> 01:06:55,028
people to have a dignified

2152
01:06:55,029 --> 01:06:56,129
retirement.

2153
01:06:56,130 --> 01:06:57,969
And there is a role for government

2154
01:06:57,970 --> 01:06:59,409
there, and I want to make sure

2155
01:06:59,410 --> 01:07:00,769
government does the work to make

2156
01:07:00,770 --> 01:07:02,590
that possible for all of us.

2157
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,159
And finally, same question to Mrs.

2158
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:05,758
Murray.

2159
01:07:05,759 --> 01:07:06,999
Thank you.

2160
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,019
So I've had the pleasure of being at

2161
01:07:09,020 --> 01:07:11,419
many locations with Francesca

2162
01:07:11,420 --> 01:07:13,039
as well as with Kelda, Sarah and

2163
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,379
other gubernatorial candidates.

2164
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:17,619
I think what FRAN stands for when it

2165
01:07:17,620 --> 01:07:19,659
resonates with me is this is

2166
01:07:19,660 --> 01:07:21,318
no longer about left and right.

2167
01:07:21,319 --> 01:07:22,719
I thinK Tom Tiffany is doing his

2168
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,858
best to label it in a way to try and

2169
01:07:24,859 --> 01:07:27,019
again do the divisive

2170
01:07:27,020 --> 01:07:29,199
tactics that this administration

2171
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:30,108
has done.

2172
01:07:30,109 --> 01:07:31,869
What I take away from what she has

2173
01:07:31,870 --> 01:07:34,068
to say is we are now about the haves

2174
01:07:34,069 --> 01:07:35,508
and have nots.

2175
01:07:35,509 --> 01:07:36,809
During the break we got to see my

2176
01:07:36,810 --> 01:07:38,389
commercial where I said that's it.

2177
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:40,349
It's enough of giving tax breaks to

2178
01:07:40,350 --> 01:07:41,589
billionaires while we take away

2179
01:07:41,590 --> 01:07:44,249
resources to the people live here.

2180
01:07:44,250 --> 01:07:46,089
Our government is set up to support

2181
01:07:46,090 --> 01:07:47,129
billionaires.

2182
01:07:47,130 --> 01:07:49,349
Our Government allows for

2183
01:07:49,350 --> 01:07:51,449
money to come dark money coming into

2184
01:07:51,450 --> 01:07:53,669
this community to support folks

2185
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:55,508
who have never lived here before as

2186
01:07:55,509 --> 01:07:56,629
candidate.

2187
01:07:57,649 --> 01:08:00,298
We need to take care of

2188
01:08:00,299 --> 01:08:01,778
Number one, cutting taxes for

2189
01:08:01,779 --> 01:08:02,858
billionaires.

2190
01:08:02,859 --> 01:08:04,619
Number two, term limits.

2191
01:08:04,620 --> 01:08:06,199
Number three, Citizens vs.

2192
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,619
United. First it was the Montana

2193
01:08:07,620 --> 01:08:09,898
plan. They had to pause,

2194
01:08:09,899 --> 01:08:11,479
Colorado moved forward but didn't

2195
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:12,979
get it over the finish line.

2196
01:08:12,980 --> 01:08:14,839
Hawaii actually got it done.

2197
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,339
Corporations are not people and

2198
01:08:16,340 --> 01:08:18,459
money is not speech.

2199
01:08:18,460 --> 01:08:20,739
We need to stop with this ridiculous

2200
01:08:20,740 --> 01:08:22,818
million dollar campaigns when

2201
01:08:22,819 --> 01:08:24,079
we're talking to people about

2202
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,259
affordable housing, healthcare,

2203
01:08:26,260 --> 01:08:27,978
and enough gas to get to work.

2204
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:30,049
That we need to

2205
01:08:30,050 --> 01:08:31,688
be real and stop talking about

2206
01:08:31,689 --> 01:08:32,930
labels and talk about results.

2207
01:08:34,309 --> 01:08:36,549
Mr. Clark, you're first on this one.

2208
01:08:36,550 --> 01:08:38,228
Congress is expected to take up

2209
01:08:38,229 --> 01:08:39,768
another farm bill.

2210
01:08:39,769 --> 01:08:41,049
It touches everything from crop

2211
01:08:41,050 --> 01:08:42,949
insurance and conservation programs

2212
01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:44,568
to nutrition assistance and

2213
01:08:44,569 --> 01:08:45,709
broadband.

2214
01:08:45,710 --> 01:08:47,009
But many Wisconsin farmers say

2215
01:08:47,010 --> 01:08:48,688
they're facing shrinking profit

2216
01:08:48,689 --> 01:08:51,469
margins, rising input costs,

2217
01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:53,469
labor shortages, and uncertainty

2218
01:08:53,470 --> 01:08:55,308
over trade policy.

2219
01:08:55,309 --> 01:08:56,829
If elected to Congress, what is the

2220
01:08:56,830 --> 01:08:58,489
single biggest change you would

2221
01:08:58,490 --> 01:09:00,409
fight for in the next farm bill to

2222
01:09:00,410 --> 01:09:01,749
help Wisconsin farmers remain

2223
01:09:01,750 --> 01:09:02,589
profitable?

2224
01:09:02,590 --> 01:09:03,590
Mr. Clarke.

2225
01:09:04,500 --> 01:09:05,879
The farm bill is something we're

2226
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,299
supposed to pass every five years

2227
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:08,959
and it's a big comprehensive piece

2228
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,858
of legislation that really defines

2229
01:09:10,859 --> 01:09:12,358
and drives a lot of American

2230
01:09:12,359 --> 01:09:14,339
agriculture and it needs

2231
01:09:14,340 --> 01:09:15,459
reform.

2232
01:09:15,460 --> 01:09:16,919
Unfortunately right now there are

2233
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,739
far too many farmers here in the

2234
01:09:18,740 --> 01:09:20,739
Midwest are

2235
01:09:20,740 --> 01:09:22,599
growing in corn and beans because

2236
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:25,299
that's where the incentives are to

2237
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:26,959
produce those crops.

2238
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,879
But too many are losing money

2239
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,799
on those crops every year

2240
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:32,679
because of a pricing system that

2241
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:33,659
doesn't work.

2242
01:09:33,660 --> 01:09:34,938
And because.

2243
01:09:34,939 --> 01:09:36,959
We've allowed the agribusiness

2244
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:38,579
corporations to get so big and

2245
01:09:38,580 --> 01:09:40,299
exercise so much control over our

2246
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:41,799
farm sector that it can be almost

2247
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:43,679
impossible, especially for small and

2248
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:46,858
medium sized farmers to survive.

2249
01:09:46,859 --> 01:09:48,818
So what I want to see our next farm

2250
01:09:48,819 --> 01:09:50,638
bill do is, number one,

2251
01:09:50,639 --> 01:09:51,879
restore funding for nutrition

2252
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:53,818
assistance programs that directly

2253
01:09:53,819 --> 01:09:55,399
goes into the mouths of children and

2254
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,638
families who need it the most.

2255
01:09:56,639 --> 01:09:58,479
Number two to strengthen

2256
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:00,399
our enforcement of antitrust

2257
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,749
laws and and prevent

2258
01:10:02,750 --> 01:10:04,388
the biggest corporations in

2259
01:10:04,389 --> 01:10:06,308
agribusiness from preventing farmers

2260
01:10:06,309 --> 01:10:07,569
from actually getting a price for

2261
01:10:07,570 --> 01:10:09,009
their product that allows them to

2262
01:10:09,010 --> 01:10:10,489
stay in business.

2263
01:10:10,490 --> 01:10:12,308
Number three, we need to

2264
01:10:12,309 --> 01:10:14,369
basically diversify

2265
01:10:14,370 --> 01:10:16,529
and help farmers diversify by

2266
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:17,989
incentivizing things like value

2267
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:20,069
added, incentivizing other

2268
01:10:20,070 --> 01:10:22,369
crops, incentivize

2269
01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:24,949
grass-based agriculture and

2270
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:26,808
tying together the environmental

2271
01:10:26,809 --> 01:10:28,629
outcomes of farming with

2272
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:30,329
the economic outcomes that benefit

2273
01:10:30,330 --> 01:10:32,279
all of us from healthier food.

2274
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,979
And those things can work together

2275
01:10:33,980 --> 01:10:35,079
right now government is working

2276
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,279
across purposes.

2277
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,719
We need to realign government

2278
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,819
programs around agriculture

2279
01:10:39,820 --> 01:10:41,638
Mrs. Murray, same question, how can

2280
01:10:41,639 --> 01:10:42,879
the federal government support

2281
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:43,939
farmers in Wisconsin?

2282
01:10:44,970 --> 01:10:46,530
Thank you, and so I thought I heard

2283
01:10:46,531 --> 01:10:47,669
the question originally was the

2284
01:10:47,670 --> 01:10:49,629
single most I appreciate Fred having

2285
01:10:49,630 --> 01:10:51,629
many examples I'm

2286
01:10:51,630 --> 01:10:52,888
teetering between single most or

2287
01:10:52,889 --> 01:10:54,709
many but I think the single

2288
01:10:54,710 --> 01:10:56,569
Thing to do is to take care

2289
01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:58,349
of how can we help farmers

2290
01:10:58,350 --> 01:10:59,409
financially?

2291
01:10:59,410 --> 01:11:01,229
I would much prefer to invest in

2292
01:11:01,230 --> 01:11:03,109
farmers than to have our funds to

2293
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:04,609
help when there's a cleanup or a

2294
01:11:04,610 --> 01:11:06,589
problem Mother Nature is

2295
01:11:06,590 --> 01:11:07,689
going to do what Mother Nature does

2296
01:11:07,690 --> 01:11:09,029
and we need to be there to help

2297
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:10,709
farmers if their crops are taken out

2298
01:11:10,710 --> 01:11:12,629
by a storm or a

2299
01:11:12,630 --> 01:11:14,729
flood As I was saying before,

2300
01:11:14,730 --> 01:11:16,509
I think just like students can get

2301
01:11:16,510 --> 01:11:17,829
financial aid from the federal

2302
01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:19,929
government, I think especially our

2303
01:11:19,930 --> 01:11:22,409
newer farmers and our

2304
01:11:22,410 --> 01:11:24,929
newest generation farmers

2305
01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:26,829
need that assistance to

2306
01:11:26,830 --> 01:11:27,869
boost them while they're getting

2307
01:11:27,870 --> 01:11:29,829
their feet underneath them

2308
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:31,268
and getting that solid base that

2309
01:11:31,269 --> 01:11:32,869
they need.

2310
01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:34,849
Fred also talked about antitrust and

2311
01:11:34,850 --> 01:11:36,829
what I learned is when there's a

2312
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:38,969
barrier to entry, that's a problem.

2313
01:11:38,970 --> 01:11:40,649
And I think the government needs to

2314
01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:42,729
tackle that. Right now at the tech,

2315
01:11:42,730 --> 01:11:43,929
the farm tech, where we were at

2316
01:11:43,930 --> 01:11:45,109
earlier today.

2317
01:11:45,110 --> 01:11:47,049
You can see how this equipment

2318
01:11:47,050 --> 01:11:48,569
can really make a difference.

2319
01:11:48,570 --> 01:11:49,989
You don't need as much labor if you

2320
01:11:49,990 --> 01:11:52,189
can get the big tractors that can

2321
01:11:52,190 --> 01:11:53,929
drive themselves.

2322
01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:56,089
But the smaller mom and pop farms or

2323
01:11:56,090 --> 01:11:57,649
the new person in the next

2324
01:11:57,650 --> 01:11:58,888
generation can't afford them.

2325
01:11:58,889 --> 01:12:00,069
So we need to be able to support

2326
01:12:00,070 --> 01:12:01,768
them on the front end so that they

2327
01:12:01,769 --> 01:12:03,069
can be competitive.

2328
01:12:03,070 --> 01:12:04,709
If they're in that subsidized

2329
01:12:04,710 --> 01:12:06,529
financing program, I also think

2330
01:12:06,530 --> 01:12:08,308
that any federal facility that's

2331
01:12:08,309 --> 01:12:09,789
buying product from farms should buy

2332
01:12:09,790 --> 01:12:10,989
it from the farmers that we're

2333
01:12:10,990 --> 01:12:12,808
lending money to, to help give them

2334
01:12:12,809 --> 01:12:15,149
that boost. I have lots of ideas.

2335
01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:16,150
But those, that's the top.

2336
01:12:17,260 --> 01:12:19,339
Now to Mr. Armstrong, same question.

2337
01:12:19,340 --> 01:12:20,399
What do you wanna see in the next

2338
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:21,919
farm bill to help farmers?

2339
01:12:22,930 --> 01:12:25,009
I think you'll unsurprisingly

2340
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:26,569
find some similarity between our

2341
01:12:26,570 --> 01:12:29,888
answers. I think reinvesting

2342
01:12:29,889 --> 01:12:32,430
in food assistance, SNAP benefits,

2343
01:12:33,470 --> 01:12:36,109
USAID was one of the most

2344
01:12:36,110 --> 01:12:37,949
valuable programs in

2345
01:12:37,950 --> 01:12:39,109
getting U.S.

2346
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:40,549
Agricultural products across the

2347
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:42,849
world doing wonderful,

2348
01:12:42,850 --> 01:12:43,850
humane work.

2349
01:12:44,710 --> 01:12:46,689
It's pretty darn tough to be

2350
01:12:46,690 --> 01:12:48,489
a farmer from the friends that I

2351
01:12:48,490 --> 01:12:50,169
have that are farming.

2352
01:12:50,170 --> 01:12:51,829
You know the thing that's remarkable

2353
01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:53,449
is that you know, these are people

2354
01:12:53,450 --> 01:12:55,429
that love Working the

2355
01:12:55,430 --> 01:12:57,489
land working with their animals and

2356
01:12:57,490 --> 01:12:59,369
their commitment to it is just

2357
01:12:59,370 --> 01:13:01,469
astounding and I just can't imagine

2358
01:13:01,470 --> 01:13:03,549
What it's like to

2359
01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:05,768
go into a growing season knowing

2360
01:13:05,769 --> 01:13:07,609
that your you know equipment prices

2361
01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:09,749
your fertilizer Input

2362
01:13:09,750 --> 01:13:11,989
seed prices land prices

2363
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:13,909
are going up up up

2364
01:13:13,910 --> 01:13:15,749
And then the federal government is

2365
01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:17,808
deliberately putting its finger on

2366
01:13:17,809 --> 01:13:20,089
the scale and really

2367
01:13:20,090 --> 01:13:22,169
catastrophizing the world

2368
01:13:22,170 --> 01:13:23,409
markets.

2369
01:13:23,410 --> 01:13:24,869
What it must be like to go into that

2370
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:26,749
going, am I gonna be able to even

2371
01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:27,609
make money?

2372
01:13:27,610 --> 01:13:29,489
And then getting some

2373
01:13:29,490 --> 01:13:30,469
payments from the federal

2374
01:13:30,470 --> 01:13:32,509
government, where a lot of those

2375
01:13:32,510 --> 01:13:34,409
payments go to the

2376
01:13:34,410 --> 01:13:35,969
debts that they are servicing.

2377
01:13:35,970 --> 01:13:38,169
So it goes into all

2378
01:13:38,170 --> 01:13:39,569
of the suppliers.

2379
01:13:39,570 --> 01:13:41,388
So we need some radical

2380
01:13:41,389 --> 01:13:43,289
reform, like Fred

2381
01:13:43,290 --> 01:13:44,329
suggested.

2382
01:13:44,330 --> 01:13:45,729
Diversification, I think, is a big

2383
01:13:45,730 --> 01:13:47,129
part of it. But that's not easy,

2384
01:13:47,130 --> 01:13:48,909
because the US egg infrastructure is

2385
01:13:48,910 --> 01:13:51,469
really set up for corn and soybean.

2386
01:13:51,470 --> 01:13:52,329
So you know.

2387
01:13:52,330 --> 01:13:53,808
This is where the United States

2388
01:13:53,809 --> 01:13:56,209
started from hundreds of years ago,

2389
01:13:56,210 --> 01:13:57,768
and we still have the opportunity to

2390
01:13:57,769 --> 01:13:59,649
be the best producer of the best

2391
01:13:59,650 --> 01:14:00,650
products in the world.

2392
01:14:01,410 --> 01:14:03,029
We will go to Mrs. Murray first on

2393
01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:04,189
this question.

2394
01:14:04,190 --> 01:14:06,129
Wisconsin is competing for major

2395
01:14:06,130 --> 01:14:07,929
data center projects that promise

2396
01:14:07,930 --> 01:14:09,888
jobs and investment, but they also

2397
01:14:09,889 --> 01:14:11,409
raise concerns about electricity

2398
01:14:11,410 --> 01:14:13,308
demand, water use, and impacts

2399
01:14:13,309 --> 01:14:15,049
on nearby communities.

2400
01:14:15,050 --> 01:14:16,689
If elected, what role should the

2401
01:14:16,690 --> 01:14:18,109
federal government play in

2402
01:14:18,110 --> 01:14:20,388
regulating these large data centers?

2403
01:14:20,389 --> 01:14:21,359
Mrs.Murray.

2404
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,739
Yes, Dan. And isn't that what

2405
01:14:22,740 --> 01:14:24,999
everybody is asking us these days?

2406
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:26,859
These data centers are still a

2407
01:14:26,860 --> 01:14:28,039
bit of a mystery.

2408
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:29,719
And I think that we shouldn't be

2409
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,379
going into business when the

2410
01:14:31,380 --> 01:14:32,279
business is a bit of a.

2411
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:33,179
Mystery.

2412
01:14:33,180 --> 01:14:35,119
I'm not supporting a moratorium,

2413
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,479
but I think from the federal level,

2414
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:38,058
we need to go back to the rules that

2415
01:14:38,059 --> 01:14:39,638
we had with the clean air and clean

2416
01:14:39,639 --> 01:14:40,499
water act.

2417
01:14:40,500 --> 01:14:42,459
I think there should be independent

2418
01:14:42,460 --> 01:14:44,399
studies done to talk about

2419
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,319
the environmental impact

2420
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,259
that would come from whatever

2421
01:14:48,260 --> 01:14:50,138
proposal is being presented to a

2422
01:14:50,139 --> 01:14:51,018
community.

2423
01:14:51,019 --> 01:14:53,259
My concern is, much

2424
01:14:53,260 --> 01:14:54,679
like the mine when it was trying to

2425
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,179
come to Cranen, just as I came back

2426
01:14:56,180 --> 01:14:59,159
from law school, they entice

2427
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,919
leaders of small communities with

2428
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:02,659
these big price tags on what they're

2429
01:15:02,660 --> 01:15:05,099
willing to pay to put their

2430
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:07,099
facility on your land and

2431
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:08,419
your community.

2432
01:15:08,420 --> 01:15:10,399
However, you have to talk about

2433
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,279
what insurance is coming in,

2434
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,279
what funds are coming in to

2435
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:16,199
pre-fund whatever cleanup might

2436
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:17,859
be needed because of that kind of

2437
01:15:17,860 --> 01:15:19,839
facility now coming into your

2438
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:20,959
community.

2439
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,558
Also, we need to talk about other

2440
01:15:22,559 --> 01:15:24,179
ways to bring in energy.

2441
01:15:24,180 --> 01:15:25,699
Could they put solar panels on the

2442
01:15:25,700 --> 01:15:27,219
top of their buildings?

2443
01:15:27,220 --> 01:15:29,279
Could they be using the biomass

2444
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:31,359
fuel for their

2445
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,558
energy source?

2446
01:15:32,559 --> 01:15:34,138
Whatever they do, I don't want them

2447
01:15:34,139 --> 01:15:36,619
on nutrient-rich soil.

2448
01:15:36,620 --> 01:15:39,039
So it needs to be collaborative

2449
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:40,439
that we're looking at the

2450
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:42,819
environmental and economical impact

2451
01:15:42,820 --> 01:15:44,299
of the proposal that's being

2452
01:15:44,300 --> 01:15:46,058
presented to a community.

2453
01:15:46,059 --> 01:15:47,638
From the federal level, I think it's

2454
01:15:47,639 --> 01:15:49,399
about the big laws, Clean Air, Clean

2455
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:50,479
Water Act.

2456
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:52,058
Otherwise, local communities need to

2457
01:15:52,059 --> 01:15:53,600
do their local government checks.

2458
01:15:54,830 --> 01:15:56,589
Mr. Armstrong, your thoughts on

2459
01:15:56,590 --> 01:15:58,589
federal government regulating data

2460
01:15:58,590 --> 01:15:59,590
centers.

2461
01:16:00,130 --> 01:16:01,929
Well, I've got a unique perspective

2462
01:16:01,930 --> 01:16:03,469
to offer, having been in the IT

2463
01:16:03,470 --> 01:16:05,729
industry for over 30 years.

2464
01:16:05,730 --> 01:16:07,768
And I've gotta tell you, I have seen

2465
01:16:07,769 --> 01:16:09,609
the latest and greatest technology

2466
01:16:09,610 --> 01:16:11,489
trends come and go

2467
01:16:11,490 --> 01:16:13,689
over and over and over again.

2468
01:16:14,710 --> 01:16:16,089
And the same thing's happening,

2469
01:16:16,090 --> 01:16:17,869
particularly with AI, in my opinion.

2470
01:16:18,890 --> 01:16:20,869
We're over-promising,

2471
01:16:20,870 --> 01:16:23,369
over-spending, over-investing.

2472
01:16:23,370 --> 01:16:25,009
In the end, is there going to be

2473
01:16:25,010 --> 01:16:26,749
some benefit?

2474
01:16:26,750 --> 01:16:27,888
Possibly.

2475
01:16:27,889 --> 01:16:29,809
But, you know, my concern...

2476
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:32,869
Is when a new

2477
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:34,689
industry comes along,

2478
01:16:34,690 --> 01:16:36,449
and as many of your viewers may have

2479
01:16:36,450 --> 01:16:38,329
heard, and a couple of

2480
01:16:38,330 --> 01:16:40,409
hyperscale data centers by

2481
01:16:40,410 --> 01:16:42,429
themselves are gonna consume

2482
01:16:42,430 --> 01:16:44,369
the amount of energy of

2483
01:16:44,370 --> 01:16:47,149
all houses in Wisconsin,

2484
01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:49,268
I think we need to stop and

2485
01:16:49,269 --> 01:16:51,129
take a look around and say, what the

2486
01:16:51,130 --> 01:16:52,109
heck is going on?

2487
01:16:52,110 --> 01:16:53,329
Because we're talking about a

2488
01:16:53,330 --> 01:16:55,509
dramatic transformation of

2489
01:16:55,510 --> 01:16:57,018
the electrical grid.

2490
01:16:57,019 --> 01:16:59,419
Electric, you know, power generation

2491
01:16:59,420 --> 01:17:01,169
at the time.

2492
01:17:01,170 --> 01:17:03,009
When power and

2493
01:17:03,010 --> 01:17:06,129
energy prices are skyrocketing.

2494
01:17:06,130 --> 01:17:07,929
So Ginger made a good suggestion

2495
01:17:07,930 --> 01:17:09,909
that others have, which is if you're

2496
01:17:09,910 --> 01:17:11,209
gonna build a data center, apart

2497
01:17:11,210 --> 01:17:12,909
from having environmental impact,

2498
01:17:12,910 --> 01:17:13,910
community impact,

2499
01:17:15,010 --> 01:17:16,968
require them to provide their

2500
01:17:16,969 --> 01:17:19,009
own power through green energy.

2501
01:17:19,010 --> 01:17:20,569
But I think we wanna keep in mind

2502
01:17:20,570 --> 01:17:22,529
that these are all investments that

2503
01:17:22,530 --> 01:17:24,009
are being done locally for the

2504
01:17:24,010 --> 01:17:25,609
benefit of making the tech,

2505
01:17:25,610 --> 01:17:27,569
burlagarks even richer.

2506
01:17:27,570 --> 01:17:29,089
And I'm just not sure what the value

2507
01:17:29,090 --> 01:17:30,229
is to our local communities.

2508
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:32,819
Mr. Clark, same question to you.

2509
01:17:33,950 --> 01:17:35,709
Yeah, so it used to be that when

2510
01:17:35,710 --> 01:17:37,989
there was a bust in the tech sector,

2511
01:17:37,990 --> 01:17:39,388
a bunch of people in Silicon Valley

2512
01:17:39,389 --> 01:17:41,149
lost their jobs.

2513
01:17:41,150 --> 01:17:42,968
Today, with the buildout of data

2514
01:17:42,969 --> 01:17:45,489
centers driving the AI revolution,

2515
01:17:45,490 --> 01:17:46,808
what we're seeing is some of the

2516
01:17:46,809 --> 01:17:48,169
wealthiest corporations and the

2517
01:17:48,170 --> 01:17:50,509
wealthest people in the world are

2518
01:17:50,510 --> 01:17:52,329
basically in an arms race

2519
01:17:52,330 --> 01:17:54,289
or a war to build out

2520
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:56,269
computing capacity as fast as they

2521
01:17:56,270 --> 01:17:58,189
can in as many communities as they

2522
01:17:58,190 --> 01:18:00,169
can with the

2523
01:18:00,170 --> 01:18:00,999
prospect.

2524
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,739
Of eventually making a profit, but

2525
01:18:02,740 --> 01:18:04,019
we need to understand that none of

2526
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:06,479
this sector is profitable today.

2527
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:08,519
There's a huge bubble going on

2528
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,519
in the AI and tech

2529
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,399
sector today, and that

2530
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,718
means that these developments are

2531
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,319
at risk, and we don't know the

2532
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,179
long-term viability of this entire

2533
01:18:18,180 --> 01:18:19,819
sector. We don't how many of these

2534
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:20,919
data centers are going to be sitting

2535
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:22,779
empty a year from

2536
01:18:22,780 --> 01:18:24,619
now. So there is an important

2537
01:18:24,620 --> 01:18:25,679
role for state and federal

2538
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,579
government here.

2539
01:18:26,580 --> 01:18:28,419
At the federal government level,

2540
01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:29,420
we need to make sure.

2541
01:18:30,430 --> 01:18:32,109
Those companies are financially

2542
01:18:32,110 --> 01:18:33,589
solvent and viable for the

2543
01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:34,388
investments that they're going to

2544
01:18:34,389 --> 01:18:35,649
make so communities aren't on the

2545
01:18:35,650 --> 01:18:36,609
hook.

2546
01:18:36,610 --> 01:18:38,529
We need to ensure that

2547
01:18:38,530 --> 01:18:41,189
communities can ask for and demand

2548
01:18:41,190 --> 01:18:43,409
enough payments from these companies

2549
01:18:43,410 --> 01:18:45,069
to benefit everybody in that

2550
01:18:45,070 --> 01:18:46,989
community so that that community is

2551
01:18:46,990 --> 01:18:49,109
not paying higher rates and not

2552
01:18:49,110 --> 01:18:50,949
paying for the the

2553
01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:52,468
disastrous effects of some of these

2554
01:18:52,469 --> 01:18:53,469
developments.

2555
01:18:54,150 --> 01:18:55,929
And we need to treat these elements

2556
01:18:55,930 --> 01:18:57,109
of public utilities.

2557
01:18:57,110 --> 01:18:59,049
Federal law needs to authorize

2558
01:18:59,050 --> 01:19:01,009
that so that states public utility

2559
01:19:01,010 --> 01:19:02,968
commissions can actually regulate

2560
01:19:02,969 --> 01:19:03,969
data centers.

2561
01:19:05,580 --> 01:19:07,199
We are nearing the end of the

2562
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:09,218
debate. So I want to know about an

2563
01:19:09,219 --> 01:19:10,558
issue we haven't spoke about

2564
01:19:10,559 --> 01:19:11,399
tonight.

2565
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:13,179
So we'll go to Mr. Armstrong first.

2566
01:19:13,180 --> 01:19:14,718
Mr.Armstrong, what have we not

2567
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:15,779
talked about tonight that is

2568
01:19:15,780 --> 01:19:16,780
important to you?

2569
01:19:19,670 --> 01:19:20,789
Well, yeah, you've done a pretty

2570
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:22,670
good job, pretty good job, Dan.

2571
01:19:26,530 --> 01:19:28,789
Kind of grasping for straws here.

2572
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:31,289
I think, you know,

2573
01:19:31,290 --> 01:19:32,789
one of the things that makes the

2574
01:19:32,790 --> 01:19:34,629
United States one of

2575
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:36,509
most unique nations in the world

2576
01:19:36,510 --> 01:19:38,669
is we're not defined by

2577
01:19:38,670 --> 01:19:40,549
nationality. We're not define by

2578
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:42,429
ethnicity. We're defined by

2579
01:19:42,430 --> 01:19:44,729
language. We're define by culture,

2580
01:19:46,070 --> 01:19:47,070
religion.

2581
01:19:47,530 --> 01:19:49,409
The strength of the United

2582
01:19:49,410 --> 01:19:51,030
States, you know, from it.

2583
01:19:52,450 --> 01:19:54,869
A motto, e pluribus unum,

2584
01:19:54,870 --> 01:19:57,468
out of many one,

2585
01:19:57,469 --> 01:19:59,669
is really a unique

2586
01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:01,529
perspective on how

2587
01:20:01,530 --> 01:20:03,129
groups of people from across the

2588
01:20:03,130 --> 01:20:04,949
world can come together and

2589
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:06,989
build something fantastic.

2590
01:20:06,990 --> 01:20:08,989
And as we move into

2591
01:20:08,990 --> 01:20:11,129
the 250th

2592
01:20:11,130 --> 01:20:13,529
year and anniversary

2593
01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:15,269
of the United States, what I'm

2594
01:20:15,270 --> 01:20:17,629
asking is for everybody,

2595
01:20:17,630 --> 01:20:19,369
we are different, and that's okay,

2596
01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:21,169
and that one of our strengths, But

2597
01:20:21,170 --> 01:20:23,119
we need to come together

2598
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,239
around those things that

2599
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,799
we

2600
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,019
hold dear, and that thing is

2601
01:20:30,020 --> 01:20:30,899
the U.S.

2602
01:20:30,900 --> 01:20:32,239
Constitution. So I'm asking for

2603
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,259
everybody to, you know, renew

2604
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:36,339
our covenant with one another as

2605
01:20:36,340 --> 01:20:37,899
we seek to make this, you now, the

2606
01:20:37,900 --> 01:20:40,339
greatest country on earth free to

2607
01:20:40,340 --> 01:20:43,259
pursue happiness and liberty.

2608
01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:44,260
In life

2609
01:20:45,299 --> 01:20:46,399
Thank You mr.

2610
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,199
Armstrong on a mr.

2611
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,239
Clark something we haven't spoke

2612
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:49,599
about this evening that you'd like

2613
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:50,600
to touch on

2614
01:20:51,070 --> 01:20:53,069
Well, I think citizens across

2615
01:20:53,070 --> 01:20:54,769
northern Wisconsin are realizing in

2616
01:20:54,770 --> 01:20:56,529
the last year and a half how

2617
01:20:56,530 --> 01:20:58,089
important the federal government

2618
01:20:58,090 --> 01:20:59,749
actually is.

2619
01:20:59,750 --> 01:21:01,689
And we have an administration right

2620
01:21:01,690 --> 01:21:03,689
now in Washington that's really

2621
01:21:03,690 --> 01:21:05,468
good at breaking things.

2622
01:21:05,469 --> 01:21:07,369
And we a Congress that has

2623
01:21:07,370 --> 01:21:09,409
sat back and been silent

2624
01:21:09,410 --> 01:21:11,308
after so many of those

2625
01:21:11,309 --> 01:21:12,968
things have been broken.

2626
01:21:12,969 --> 01:21:14,529
And whether it's the president

2627
01:21:14,530 --> 01:21:15,968
tearing down the east wing of the

2628
01:21:15,969 --> 01:21:21,329
White House, it's

2629
01:21:21,330 --> 01:21:23,229
one federal agency after another

2630
01:21:23,230 --> 01:21:25,169
where many of the federal agencies

2631
01:21:25,170 --> 01:21:26,808
that do important work across this

2632
01:21:26,809 --> 01:21:29,249
country have lost 20, 30,

2633
01:21:29,250 --> 01:21:31,129
40 percent of their

2634
01:21:31,130 --> 01:21:32,869
career federal employees who knew

2635
01:21:32,870 --> 01:21:34,308
how to do the work that the public

2636
01:21:34,309 --> 01:21:36,409
needed are now gone and

2637
01:21:36,410 --> 01:21:37,609
many of them are replaced with

2638
01:21:37,610 --> 01:21:38,949
loyalists who don't have

2639
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:40,549
qualifications who don't understand

2640
01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:41,909
the work of those agencies but

2641
01:21:41,910 --> 01:21:43,468
they're 100 percent loyal to this

2642
01:21:43,469 --> 01:21:45,388
administration that is

2643
01:21:45,389 --> 01:21:47,369
a recipe for a disaster.

2644
01:21:47,370 --> 01:21:48,849
So the next Congress...

2645
01:21:48,850 --> 01:21:50,409
Is going to have a tremendous amount

2646
01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:51,949
of work to do to begin the

2647
01:21:51,950 --> 01:21:54,109
rebuilding of a federal government

2648
01:21:54,110 --> 01:21:55,989
that works for all of us.

2649
01:21:55,990 --> 01:21:57,689
Whether that's foreign aid that was

2650
01:21:57,690 --> 01:21:59,069
destroyed with the elimination of

2651
01:21:59,070 --> 01:22:01,388
USCID or restoring integrity

2652
01:22:01,389 --> 01:22:03,549
in our Department of Justice or

2653
01:22:03,550 --> 01:22:05,449
restoring capacity in the U.S.

2654
01:22:05,450 --> 01:22:06,669
Forest Service so they can manage

2655
01:22:06,670 --> 01:22:08,209
the public lands that we all benefit

2656
01:22:08,210 --> 01:22:10,169
from. We've got years and

2657
01:22:10,170 --> 01:22:11,709
years and year of rebuilding ahead

2658
01:22:11,710 --> 01:22:13,689
of us and people

2659
01:22:13,690 --> 01:22:15,509
of northern Wisconsin need

2660
01:22:15,510 --> 01:22:16,949
to elect somebody who's willing to

2661
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:17,739
go to work.

2662
01:22:17,740 --> 01:22:18,939
And envision what the federal

2663
01:22:18,940 --> 01:22:20,138
government needs to be in the

2664
01:22:20,139 --> 01:22:21,139
future.

2665
01:22:21,730 --> 01:22:23,609
And now to you, Mrs. Murray.

2666
01:22:23,610 --> 01:22:24,609
Thank you.

2667
01:22:24,610 --> 01:22:26,329
You did a wonderful job covering

2668
01:22:26,330 --> 01:22:27,869
most of the topics that I wanted to

2669
01:22:27,870 --> 01:22:29,989
talk about, so I appreciate that.

2670
01:22:29,990 --> 01:22:31,569
I will say that as I've been going

2671
01:22:31,570 --> 01:22:34,049
to places where they're allowing for

2672
01:22:34,050 --> 01:22:35,929
the visitors to keep tabs of

2673
01:22:35,930 --> 01:22:37,449
what interests are most important to

2674
01:22:37,450 --> 01:22:39,129
them, health care by far is the

2675
01:22:39,130 --> 01:22:40,468
number one.

2676
01:22:40,469 --> 01:22:41,968
Yesterday when we were at a forum,

2677
01:22:41,969 --> 01:22:43,769
number two was the right to vote,

2678
01:22:43,770 --> 01:22:45,149
and I think that goes to a bigger

2679
01:22:45,150 --> 01:22:46,289
picture which is defending

2680
01:22:46,290 --> 01:22:47,689
democracy.

2681
01:22:47,690 --> 01:22:49,769
And while maybe in years past

2682
01:22:49,770 --> 01:22:51,569
being a lawyer and asking for your

2683
01:22:51,570 --> 01:22:53,489
vote to go to Washington DC,

2684
01:22:53,490 --> 01:22:54,489
folks would have responded, that's

2685
01:22:54,490 --> 01:22:56,050
all we need is another lawyer in DC.

2686
01:22:57,170 --> 01:22:58,409
Times have changed.

2687
01:22:58,410 --> 01:22:59,888
Right now our democracy is under

2688
01:22:59,889 --> 01:23:00,749
attack.

2689
01:23:00,750 --> 01:23:02,989
The fact that the number two concern

2690
01:23:02,990 --> 01:23:04,968
was the right to vote tells us

2691
01:23:04,969 --> 01:23:06,449
that there's something significantly

2692
01:23:06,450 --> 01:23:08,289
wrong with our government when

2693
01:23:08,290 --> 01:23:10,169
folks fear whether or not they'll

2694
01:23:10,170 --> 01:23:11,989
have their right to the vote.

2695
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:13,968
And so I am asking to

2696
01:23:13,969 --> 01:23:14,989
be elected as your next

2697
01:23:14,990 --> 01:23:16,129
congresswoman, the first

2698
01:23:16,130 --> 01:23:17,829
congresswoman in this district, to

2699
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:19,109
go to Washington D.C.

2700
01:23:19,110 --> 01:23:21,129
To defend that oath that

2701
01:23:21,130 --> 01:23:22,409
everyone took, including this

2702
01:23:22,410 --> 01:23:23,689
president, to defend the

2703
01:23:23,690 --> 01:23:25,249
Constitution of the United States,

2704
01:23:25,250 --> 01:23:26,569
to make sure that people know that

2705
01:23:26,570 --> 01:23:28,308
they will have their right to vote,

2706
01:23:28,309 --> 01:23:30,009
to let them know that it means

2707
01:23:30,010 --> 01:23:31,709
something when we say you have

2708
01:23:31,710 --> 01:23:33,529
freedom of speech, freedom of

2709
01:23:33,530 --> 01:23:35,789
press, freedom of religion.

2710
01:23:35,790 --> 01:23:37,649
It means something when it says

2711
01:23:37,650 --> 01:23:39,509
you should be safe from unreasonable

2712
01:23:39,510 --> 01:23:40,629
search and seizures.

2713
01:23:40,630 --> 01:23:42,489
It means something when we say

2714
01:23:42,490 --> 01:23:44,989
we have due process in America.

2715
01:23:44,990 --> 01:23:47,189
We need folks who are willing to

2716
01:23:47,190 --> 01:23:49,149
stand up when a government

2717
01:23:49,150 --> 01:23:51,249
oversteps the boundaries

2718
01:23:51,250 --> 01:23:52,789
and the authority that they've been

2719
01:23:52,790 --> 01:23:54,769
given. I'm ready to do that.

2720
01:23:54,770 --> 01:23:55,929
We now move to our closing

2721
01:23:55,930 --> 01:23:57,649
statements. Mr. Clark, you have the

2722
01:23:57,650 --> 01:23:58,650
floor.

2723
01:24:00,900 --> 01:24:02,839
You know, what I learned

2724
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,718
in my career as a forester

2725
01:24:04,719 --> 01:24:06,819
and a business owner and in

2726
01:24:06,820 --> 01:24:08,979
my three terms as a rural state

2727
01:24:08,980 --> 01:24:11,099
legislator is that

2728
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:13,779
for small communities to work,

2729
01:24:13,780 --> 01:24:16,299
everybody has to work together and

2730
01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:17,839
that means setting political

2731
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,779
differences aside to

2732
01:24:19,780 --> 01:24:22,159
coach the high school sports team or

2733
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,019
to help man the ambulance crew

2734
01:24:24,020 --> 01:24:25,919
or to organize the fair

2735
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,200
that goes on every year.

2736
01:24:29,180 --> 01:24:30,779
Those communities can afford to let

2737
01:24:30,780 --> 01:24:32,179
politics divide them because

2738
01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:33,579
everybody's got to work together to

2739
01:24:33,580 --> 01:24:35,260
make things in that town work.

2740
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:37,939
And people are so hungry right now

2741
01:24:37,940 --> 01:24:39,959
to get away from the divisive,

2742
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,699
extremist politics that has

2743
01:24:42,700 --> 01:24:44,359
made it impossible for our federal

2744
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:45,499
government and our Congress

2745
01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:47,759
especially to do its job and

2746
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,239
influence it even more strongly by

2747
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,759
the money in politics.

2748
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,789
So what I'm bringing to this race.

2749
01:24:52,790 --> 01:24:54,449
Is the commitment and the experience

2750
01:24:54,450 --> 01:24:56,409
of somebody who's made a career out

2751
01:24:56,410 --> 01:24:57,808
of working with everybody to find

2752
01:24:57,809 --> 01:24:59,609
solutions that are practical without

2753
01:24:59,610 --> 01:25:01,109
giving up my values.

2754
01:25:01,110 --> 01:25:02,888
And I've also made a commitment in

2755
01:25:02,889 --> 01:25:05,089
this race not to take any

2756
01:25:05,090 --> 01:25:06,849
public, excuse me, political action

2757
01:25:06,850 --> 01:25:08,789
committee money and any special

2758
01:25:08,790 --> 01:25:10,789
interest money because people know

2759
01:25:10,790 --> 01:25:12,629
that the money in politics is

2760
01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:14,089
part of what's prevented Republicans

2761
01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:15,769
and Democrats from solving some of

2762
01:25:15,770 --> 01:25:16,609
our biggest problems.

2763
01:25:16,610 --> 01:25:18,549
I'm looking forward to a new kind of

2764
01:25:18,550 --> 01:25:19,959
politics that helps.

2765
01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,839
Us recognize that we have

2766
01:25:21,840 --> 01:25:23,579
way more in common than we have that

2767
01:25:23,580 --> 01:25:24,919
divides us. And I look forward to

2768
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:26,259
going to Washington next year to

2769
01:25:26,260 --> 01:25:27,839
help do that work for everyone in

2770
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:28,959
the 7th Congressional District.

2771
01:25:30,230 --> 01:25:31,729
Now to Mrs. Murray, your closing

2772
01:25:31,730 --> 01:25:32,709
statement.

2773
01:25:32,710 --> 01:25:33,710
Thank you.

2774
01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:36,099
I appreciate the voters and the

2775
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:37,519
confidence that they've given to my

2776
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:40,119
fellow lady leader

2777
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,879
lawyers.

2778
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,558
First of all, I'm a lady, I am a

2779
01:25:43,559 --> 01:25:45,439
female. I was the first female

2780
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:47,919
city attorney of Crandon, first

2781
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:49,799
female town attorney of

2782
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,879
Leona, first female family

2783
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:53,939
court commissioner in Forest County,

2784
01:25:53,940 --> 01:25:55,479
as well as family court Commissioner

2785
01:25:55,480 --> 01:25:56,519
in Oneida County.

2786
01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,359
Some of those are elected positions,

2787
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,999
so thank you for Dan for giving me

2788
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,739
an opportunity to address that here.

2789
01:26:02,740 --> 01:26:04,909
Um, also...

2790
01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:06,989
As a lady and a mom,

2791
01:26:06,990 --> 01:26:09,308
my children have decided as

2792
01:26:09,309 --> 01:26:10,569
of now they have no interest in

2793
01:26:10,570 --> 01:26:12,289
raising their own children.

2794
01:26:12,290 --> 01:26:14,249
If that was their choice, I would

2795
01:26:14,250 --> 01:26:16,249
have no issue with it.

2796
01:26:16,250 --> 01:26:18,129
I defend a women's

2797
01:26:18,130 --> 01:26:19,468
choice on whether or not they want

2798
01:26:19,469 --> 01:26:20,789
to have children.

2799
01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:22,388
My girls don't want to kids because

2800
01:26:22,389 --> 01:26:23,888
my environmental scientist doesn't

2801
01:26:23,889 --> 01:26:26,009
think Mother Earth can support us.

2802
01:26:26,010 --> 01:26:27,429
My other one thinks that it's not

2803
01:26:27,430 --> 01:26:28,430
affordable.

2804
01:26:29,150 --> 01:26:30,349
I am a leader.

2805
01:26:30,350 --> 01:26:31,689
I act.

2806
01:26:31,690 --> 01:26:33,349
I get results.

2807
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:35,349
Lawyers are judged on results.

2808
01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:37,369
I am a 30 year award winning

2809
01:26:37,370 --> 01:26:39,489
attorney and I'm offering that to

2810
01:26:39,490 --> 01:26:40,490
the folks here.

2811
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:43,289
As a lawyer, as a city attorney, I

2812
01:26:43,290 --> 01:26:44,749
brought in money the city never had

2813
01:26:44,750 --> 01:26:46,308
by creating new ordinances and

2814
01:26:46,309 --> 01:26:47,589
creating a TIF district.

2815
01:26:47,590 --> 01:26:48,949
At the county level, I brought in

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01:26:48,950 --> 01:26:50,388
federal funds that had never been

2817
01:26:50,389 --> 01:26:51,529
brought in before.

2818
01:26:51,530 --> 01:26:53,589
I grew my voice as the only female

2819
01:26:53,590 --> 01:26:55,569
sitting in those meetings, and I am

2820
01:26:55,570 --> 01:26:57,509
ready to go and join the ladies who

2821
01:26:57,510 --> 01:26:59,089
are going to unveil the Epstein

2822
01:26:59,090 --> 01:27:00,049
files.

2823
01:27:00,050 --> 01:27:01,468
The women in the Democratic caucus

2824
01:27:01,469 --> 01:27:03,209
as well as the Republican caucus are

2825
01:27:03,210 --> 01:27:04,629
calling it a reckoning and I'm ready

2826
01:27:04,630 --> 01:27:05,630
to.

2827
01:27:06,590 --> 01:27:08,249
And finally, Mr. Armstrong, your

2828
01:27:08,250 --> 01:27:09,250
closing statement.

2829
01:27:10,269 --> 01:27:11,729
Well, you know, one of the big

2830
01:27:11,730 --> 01:27:13,769
reasons I'm doing this is,

2831
01:27:13,770 --> 01:27:15,129
you know I'm a grandfather for the

2832
01:27:15,130 --> 01:27:16,049
first time.

2833
01:27:16,050 --> 01:27:17,888
And I envisioned a time, you

2834
01:27:17,889 --> 01:27:19,669
now sometime in the future, you know

2835
01:27:19,670 --> 01:27:21,449
talking with my grandson and he's

2836
01:27:21,450 --> 01:27:23,468
like, you know gee grandpa,

2837
01:27:23,469 --> 01:27:24,689
I heard things were pretty crazy

2838
01:27:24,690 --> 01:27:25,669
when I was growing up.

2839
01:27:25,670 --> 01:27:28,349
What did you do to try to

2840
01:27:28,350 --> 01:27:29,549
make a difference? And I wanna be

2841
01:27:29,550 --> 01:27:31,409
able to look him in the eye

2842
01:27:31,410 --> 01:27:33,269
and say I did everything I

2843
01:27:33,270 --> 01:27:34,869
possibly could to make this a better

2844
01:27:34,870 --> 01:27:36,749
place for you, your family

2845
01:27:36,750 --> 01:27:38,329
and our communities.

2846
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:39,849
You know, we, like I said earlier,

2847
01:27:39,850 --> 01:27:41,569
you know, we were privileged to grow

2848
01:27:41,570 --> 01:27:42,569
up in one of the most beautiful

2849
01:27:42,570 --> 01:27:44,549
places on earth and we owe it, you

2850
01:27:44,550 --> 01:27:46,009
know to those that brought us here

2851
01:27:46,010 --> 01:27:47,689
and to future generations to leave

2852
01:27:47,690 --> 01:27:49,449
it in a better, you know, better

2853
01:27:49,450 --> 01:27:51,249
shape than we found it.

2854
01:27:51,250 --> 01:27:53,308
You know I, I don't need this

2855
01:27:53,309 --> 01:27:54,409
job. I'm not looking for something

2856
01:27:54,410 --> 01:27:56,449
to do. I have a job, you know, I

2857
01:27:56,450 --> 01:27:58,669
love it, but you know I just can't

2858
01:27:58,670 --> 01:28:00,489
sit in my living room and

2859
01:28:00,490 --> 01:28:02,149
do nothing.

2860
01:28:02,150 --> 01:28:03,989
When you know we are demanding

2861
01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:06,129
to need, you know, fearless,

2862
01:28:06,130 --> 01:28:07,319
bold.

2863
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,859
Relentless leadership to hold this

2864
01:28:08,860 --> 01:28:10,218
administration accountable and do

2865
01:28:10,219 --> 01:28:11,739
the work for the people.

2866
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:12,819
You know, how are we know if this is

2867
01:28:12,820 --> 01:28:14,039
gonna be getting any better?

2868
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:15,079
When our children and our

2869
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:16,459
grandchildren, you know, can afford

2870
01:28:16,460 --> 01:28:18,579
to live here, find a good job,

2871
01:28:18,580 --> 01:28:19,879
get good healthcare, breathe the

2872
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:21,739
air, drink the water, and be able to

2873
01:28:21,740 --> 01:28:23,299
enjoy the wonderful opportunities

2874
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:25,519
that the 7th District has to offer.

2875
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,879
You know I'm not doing this for me,

2876
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,439
I'm doing this you, and to all my

2877
01:28:28,440 --> 01:28:30,339
volunteers and supporters out there,

2878
01:28:30,340 --> 01:28:32,299
you are my inspiration every

2879
01:28:32,300 --> 01:28:35,039
day, the wind beneath my wings.

2880
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,479
And 2026.

2881
01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:37,799
Is the Year of the People.

2882
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:39,419
There is nothing we cannot do

2883
01:28:39,420 --> 01:28:40,639
together to demand change.

2884
01:28:42,540 --> 01:28:44,200
As we wrap up tonight's debate, I

2885
01:28:44,201 --> 01:28:45,718
want to thank all three candidates

2886
01:28:45,719 --> 01:28:47,138
for taking part in this very

2887
01:28:47,139 --> 01:28:48,739
important conversation and thank you

2888
01:28:48,740 --> 01:28:50,058
at home for joining us.

2889
01:28:50,059 --> 01:28:51,839
If you missed our Republican primary

2890
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,239
debate, it is viewable on the WJFW

2891
01:28:54,240 --> 01:28:55,519
YouTube page.

2892
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,459
The actual primary election is on

2893
01:28:57,460 --> 01:28:59,239
Tuesday, August 11th.

2894
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:00,519
We encourage everyone to research

2895
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,119
the candidates, make a plan to vote,

2896
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,999
and most importantly, participate

2897
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:05,439
in our democracy.

2898
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:07,659
On behalf of everyone at WJW,

2899
01:29:07,660 --> 01:29:09,218
thank you for watching.

2900
01:29:09,219 --> 01:29:10,219
Have a great evening.