Subject: Re: Shimmel
From: Sandra Kiser <[email-masked]>
To: Jim Kirchstein <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 12:02:18 -0700

Kay would not appreciate it AT ALL. She is very prejudiced about him as many
are; I don't appreciate comment about "Sandra faded into oblivion". Maybe I
did. Comments about hat boxes and keys loom very large in the narrative. How
much is this tome bandied about? I can see comments like that when people
are deceased but I'M NOT DEAD YET!  If I still worked in law firms as I did,
they would suggest suing. Can't afford a lawsuit.

Dredged up thoughts of how marriage was going at that time; Shimmel
persisted when I wanted to break it off; he alluded he would leave Cleo &
encouraged me to confess to August. That's what brought about "Sandy being
grounded", "Sandy being a teenager", and generally thought of as something
to sweep out of his life. Divorce was a comedy; no appearances by either
party & I was threatened if I ever contested custody. That he would tarnish
me forever. Well, that didn't work out very well, did it?

Burned by both of them. Of course I wouldn't have these 4 daughters second
time around. I think of April's last days (yrs) of being responsible for her
death in some way. I know I didn't cause it physically, but probably had
something to do w/ her upbringing by old people. August was inconvenienced
by the children.

Stark remembrance of that was when Walden had colic & cried a lot, he and I
were ordered to downstairs bedroom. Also being dropped off at the
hospital(s) when I was due for delivery. I believe he went swimming in the
river when April was born. Children were as he so tactfully put it, "just a
biological process." Creep.

I'm over this. That poorly written dissertation just raised some sad
feelings. Am going to an Alanon meeting (my home group) to work these
thoughts out.

We are masters of our own destiny. At that time, things were very clouded;
from advice from Jack Stanton and Alice Conger and August's sister Hildred
made it even more complex.

Enough of this. Shimmel figured prominently in my life and never thought he
was just a passing dalliance; maybe thought it was a way out or God forbid,
love. Shimmel was caring, polite, treated me like a princess. Maybe I just
was one of his many, many ladies. Probably the latter.

Again, looking forward to the wedding. Don't have anything to wear (sigh).
Are you wearing a tux? Is wedding outside? Heat is always a factor; our
makeup runs & clothes get sweaty. Or as my children say, just deal.

Luv, S

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:10 AM, Jim Kirchstein <[email-masked]> wrote:

> **
> Didn't send to Kay...I don't think she would be interested.
>
> I don't know who put it together...It appears Doris had some input. I
> thought possibly Shimmel's daughter.
> I remember hearing that at one time when Aug was in the post office and
> Shimmel came in that Aug said "There's a strong smell of adultery in here!!"
> I can't see how you think they are alike in any way...but you were closer
> to both. I've never known Aug to get physically involved with his anger, but
> could really lay out verbal abuse, and the only time I witnessed that was
> when Stanton accidentally hit Aug.
>
>
>  *From:* Sandra Kiser <[email-masked]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:02 PM
> *To:* Jim Kirchstein <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: Shimmel
>
> Don't know what to say to this; who wrote this? Doris Gasser? Description
> of the affair is slightly skewed; he and I had a relationship that carried
> over when I moved to Madison; don't know if he ever would have divorced
> Cleo; all those clandestine meetings & trips (sometimes even to Milwaukee &
> Chicago); and he & August being so close. Think at times August would
> have killed him he was so enraged.
>
> What a life he had which certainly set the pattern for his love of women &
> not being controlled; he & Aug were alike in many ways.
>
> Thanks for sending it. Did you send it to Kay by chance?
>
> Sandy
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Jim Kirchstein <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>> **
>> This pdf is quite large...I hope you can receive it.
>> Shimmel was a good friend.
>>
>
>