I'M WILL
KENNEALLY
%FOR "HERE AND NOW."
%>>
THESE
WORDS
FROM
GOVERNOR%TONY EVERS
THIS
WEEK.
%QUOTE,
"WE
MUS
T
REJECT
THE
%EFFORTS
OF
THOSE
WHO
SEEK
TO
%UNDERMINE
AND
DISTRACT FROM THE
%PAIN
O
F
GENERATIONS
OF
%INJUSTICE."
%"WE
MUST
CONDEMN
ALL
THOSE
WHO
%ENCOURAGE
VIOLENCE
AGAINST
BLACK
%LIVES.
%WE MUST
OFFER
OUR
COMPASSION,
%OUR SUPPORT.
%BUT
MOST
OF
ALL,
W
E
MUST
OFFER
%OUR
ACTION."
%AND
GOVERNOR TONY
EVERS
JOINS
US
%ONCE
AGAIN
IN
OUR
WEEKLY
%ONE-ON-ONE
INTERVIEW
AND
THANKS
%VERY
MUCH
FOR
DOING
SO.
%>>
THANKS,
FREDERICA.%>>
SO
THE
TANGIBLE
ACTION
THAT
%YOU
WANT
TO
TAKE
COMES
IN
THE
%FORM
OF A
LEGISLATIVE BILL
THAT
%WOULD
MAKE
THE
PRIMARY
DUTY
OF
%ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT
TO
PRESERVE
%THE
LIFE
O
F
ALL
INDIVIDUALS AND
%THAT DEADLY
FORCE
IS TO
B
E
USE
D
%ONLY AS A
LAST
RESORT.
%WHY IS THAT WHAT YOU
CALL AN
%IMPORTANT FIRST
STEP?
%>>
YEAH.
%AND
THAT'S
GREAT,
BECAUSE
THAT'S
%WHAT --
THAT'S WHAT
BROUGHT
US
%TO
WHERE WE
ARE
TODAY.
%OBVIOUSLY, THE
HORRIBLE MURDER
%THAT
WE
SAW
IN
MINNEAPOLIS
WITH%GEORGE FLOYD
AND
HOW
THA
T
%HAPPENED
BECAUSE
THERE
WASN'T
%THE
ACCOUNTABILITY
PIECE
IN
%PLACE
AS
IT
RELATES
TO
POLICE
%RELATIONS
AND
INTERACTIONS WITH
%FOLKS.
%AND
SO,
YES,
USE
O
F
FORCE
I
S
%WHAT
WE'RE
LOOKING
FOR.
%IT'S AN ASSEMBLY
BILL.
%IT'S ALREADY
THERE.
%IT'S
REALLY
STRAIGHTFORWARD,
%MAKING
SURE
THOSE
STANDARDS
%EXIST SO
BOTH
THE
COMMUNITY AND
%THE
POLICE
KNOW WHAT
IS
EXPECTED
%OF
THEM.
%>>
NOW,
IT
CERTAINLY --%>> I'M
SORRY.
%BUT IT
IS
ONLY A FIRST
STEP.
%WE
HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY
NOW
THAT
%GOES, YOU
KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY
POLICE
%RELATIONS AND
CRIMINAL
JUSTICE
%REFORM,
HOUSING.
%YOU NAME
IT, WE
HAVE AN
%OPPORTUNITY NOW
TO
REALLY
MOV
E
%THE
NEEDLE.%>>
SPECIFIC
TO
THAT
USE
OF
FORCE
%BILL, IT
IS
CERTAINLY
BEING
%CRITICIZED
BY
THE
CHAIR OF
THE
%STATE
SENATE
PUBLIC
SAFETY
%COMMITTEE, WHO IS
OUR
NEXT
GUEST
%ON
THIS
PROGRAM.
%HE
SAYS IT WAS
WRITTEN,
QUOTE,
%BY
LIBERAL
ACTIVISTS WHO
DON'T
%KNOW ANYTHING
ABOUT
POLICE
W
ORK.
%WHAT
DO
YOU
SAY
TO
THAT?
%>>
WELL, IT
IS
-- IT
WAS
WRITTEN
%IN
LARGE
PART
BY
THE
PEOPLE
THAT
%WERE
-- THAT
WERE
PROTESTING%USING
THE FIRST AMENDMENT
%RIGHTS.
%I
UNDERSTAND
THAT
THE
SENATOR
%HAS
LOTS
MORE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE
%AND
POLICE
EXPERIENCE THAN
%OTHERS DO.
%BUT
THAT
DOESN'T
MEAN
THAT
W
E
%CAN'T
MOVE
FORWARD
ON
SOMETHING
%AROUND
ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR
%POLICE.
%
90%,
95%,
YOU
NAME
THE
HIGH
%NUMBER OF PEOPLE
THAT WORK
IN
%THE
PROFESSION ARE
GOOD.
%WE
NEED
ACCOUNTABILITY
FOR
%PEOPLE
THAT,
FRANKLY,
NEED
SOME
%HELP IN
ESTABLISHING
STANDARDS.
%YOU
DON'T
HAVE TO
BE A
FORMER%POLICE OFFICER TO
UNDERSTAND
%THAT.%>>
WHAT
ABOUT
MANDATING
AND
%FUNDING
IMPLICIT BIAS
TRAINING
%FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT,
SOMETHING
%LIKE
THAT?
%>>
ABSOLUTELY.
%
THERE ARE
ALL
SORTS
OF
GOOD
%IDEAS ON THE
TABLE.
%AND AS I
TALK
TO
PEOPLE
ALL%ACROSS THE
STATE,
BUT
%PARTICULARLY
IN
MADISON
AND
%MILWAUKEE, ON THE GROUND,
I'M
%NOT
TALKING
ABOUT
ELECTED
%OFFICIALS, PEOPLE THAT ARE
%LIVING
THIS
EVERY
SINGLE
DAY,
%THEY SAY
AND THEY
ARE
ACCURATE,%THERE
ARE
ENOUGH
BLUE
RIBBON
%COMMISSIONS AND
ENOUGH
TASK
%FORCES
AND
ENOUGH
OTHER
THINGS
%THAT THERE ARE
IDEAS
OUT
THERE
%THAT CAN
BE
IMPLEMENTED.
%AND SO
I'M
LOOKING
FORWARD T
O
%GETTING
THE
BEST
IDEAS,
%ESPECIALLY
FROM
THOSE
PEOPLE%THAT ARE ON THE
GROUND.
%OBVIOUSLY, WE
HAVE TO
GET
%SUPPORT
FROM
LEGISLATORS.
%BUT THIS SHOULD
BE A
BIPARTISAN
%ISSUE
.
%>>
THURSDAY
YOU
DECLARED
RACISM%A
PUBLIC
HEALTH
CRISIS.
%WHAT
TANGIBLE STEPS
WILL
YOU
%TAKE TO
HEAL
THAT
CRISIS?
%>>
IT'S
BEEN
LAID
THERE
DURING
%THIS
PANDEMIC, WHICH
GROUPS
ARE
%INORDINATELY
AND
%DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY
%THE
VIRUS.
%IT'S
AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
%IT'S
HISPANICS
AND
OTHER
PEOPLE,
%PEOPLE OF
COLOR.
%AND
WE'VE
BEEN
TALKING
ABOUT
%THIS A LONG
TIME,
FRANKLY.
%I
STILL
BELIEVE THAT
TAKING
THE
%MEDICAID EXPANSION
MONEY
THAT
WE
%COULD HAVE DONE
I
N
THE
HAS
%BUDGET WOULD HAVE FREED
U
P
LOTS
%OF
MONEY
FOR
OTHER
PROGRAMS
THAT
%WOULD HAVE
DIRECTLY
IMPACTED
THE
%LIVES
OF
PEOPLE
OF
COLOR
IN
THIS
%STATE
AND
HELPED
TO
REDUCE
THAT
%DISPROPORTION
%DISPROPORTIONALTY.
%TO
ME
IT'S
UNACCEPTABLE
THAT WE
%HAVE NOT
TAKEN
THE
MONEY
OUR
%TAXPAYERS HAVE
SENT
TO
%WASHINGTON D.C. AND
WE'RE
%GETTING NO
BENEFIT
FROM
THAT.%>> WHAT
I
S
YOUR
POSITION ON
%DEFUNDING THE
POLICE
AND
PUTTING
%THOSE
FUNDS
TOWARDS
THINGS
LIKE
%PUBLIC
HEALTH,
HOUSING
O
R
%ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ON
BEHALF
%OF PEOPLE
OF
COLOR?
%>>
Y
EAH.
%I'VE
BEEN
ASKED
THAT
QUESTION A
%LOT, AND
POSSIBLY EVEN
SOME OF
%THE FOLKS YOU'RE
TALKING
T
O
%TONIGHT
ARE
GOING TO BE
TALKING%ABOUT THAT.
%BUT
IF
DEFUNDING
MEANS
REMOVE
%FUNDING
FROM POLICE
OFFICERS AND
%THE
WORK
THAT
THEY'RE
DOING, THE
%GOOD
WORK
THAT
THEY'RE
DOING, OF
%COURSE
I'M
NOT
AGAINST
THAT.
%WHO'S
GOING T
O
BE
ARRESTING
THE
%PERSON
DRIVING
DRUNK ON
THE
%BELTLINE?
%WE
HAVE TO
HAVE
OFFICERS
TO
HELP
%US
GET
THROUGH THOSE
THINGS.
%BUT IF
SOME
OF THAT
MONEY CAN BE%USED FOR
IMPLICIT BIAS
T
RAINING,
%PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP
FOR
OFFICERS%THAT
ARE
WORKING
UNDER
TRAUMATIC
%CIRCUMSTANCES ALL
THE
TIME,
%REAPPRAISING
HOW THAT MONEY
IS
%SPENT TO
HELP
THEM
BECOME BETTER%POLICE
OFFICERS, I'M
ALL
FOR
%THAT.%>>
AMONG
THE
OTHER
DEMANDS, AS
%YOU
SAID, THAT
WAS
ONE,
AND
WE
%WILL HEAR
ABOUT
THA
T
TONIGHT
%FROM
SOME
PEOPLE.
%BUT AMONG
THE
OTHER
DEMANDS
FROM
%ANTIRACIST
ACTIVISTS
AND
%ADVOCATES IS
TO
WITHDRAW
THE
%NATIONAL
GUARD
ACTIVATED
I
N
THE
%
MIDST
OF
PROTESTS,
WHICH,
AS
YOU
%KNOW,
SOME
OF
THEM
RESULTED
IN
%WIDESPREAD PROPERTY DAMAGE.
%WILL YOU
CEDE
TO
THAT
DEMAND?
%>>
WELL,
FIRST
OF
ALL
,
THE
%NATIONAL
GUARD
IS
SENT
IN
WHEN
%LOMES ASKED
%LOCALS ASKED
US
FOR
I
T
IN
%MILWAUKEE AND
MADISON AND
OTHER
%PLACES IN THE
STATE.
%BUT MY
ROLE
OR
MY
INSISTENCE
AND
%BOTTOM LINE
I
S
THAT
THEY
SERVE A
%LIMITED ROLE.
%I
UNDERSTAND
HOW
PEOPLE
FEEL
%ABOUT MILITARY
ORGANIZATIONS,
%EVEN
THOUGH
OUR
NART
NATIONAL GUARD
%HAS
DONE A GREAT
JOB
HELPING US
%IN THE
PANDEMIC.
%SO WE
HAVE
INSISTED
WITH
LOCAL
%LEADERS
THAT THEY ARE
PRIMARILY
%USED
TO
PROTECT
PROPERTY,
%ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT PROPERTY%
LIKE
THE
STATE
CAPITOL,
LIK
E
%ELECTRICAL
SITUATIONS
AND
WATER
%AND
OTHER
UTILITIES,
CULTURAL
%SITES.
%SO THAT'S
THEIR
ROLE
AND
THAT'S
%THE ROLE
THEY'RE
PRIMARILY
%PLAYING.
%SO
UNTIL THEY
ARE
ASKING ME TO
%HAVE THEM
PLAY A
MORE
ACTIVE
%ROLE,
WE
WILL
CONTINUE
TO
DO
%WHAT
I
THINK
THEY'RE
DOING A
%GREAT JOB AS.
%>>
YOU
SAY
THAT
WE
MUST
%REESTABLISH
TRUST
WITH
%COMMUNITIES OF COLOR.
%HOW DO
YOU DO
IT?
%>>
WELL,
IT'S A
LONG
PROCESS,
%BUT, BELIEVE
ME, WE
HAVE A
LONG
%WAY TO GO.
%AND
ONE OF
THE
THINGS WE
CAN
DO
%IS
ACT,
AND I
BELIEVE AT
THE
%STATE LEVEL WE
HAVE
SOM
E
ACTIONS
%THAT WE
CAN
TAK
E
T
O
HELP
PEOPLE
%THAT
STRUGGLE,
PEOPLE O
F
COLOR
%IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
%BUT ALSO WE HAVE
T
O
MAKE
SURE
%THAT WE
INVOLVE
THE
ENTIRE
STATE
%IN
THIS.
%OUR
STATE
I
S
BECOMING
MORE
%DIVERSE
BY
THE
DAY
AND
WILL
%CONTINUE
TO
OPERATE
UNDER
THAT
%UMBRELLA O
F
CHANGING
%DEMOGRAPHICS.
%AND
SO WE
NEED TO
HAVE
THESE
%CONVERSATIONS.
%I
THINK
THE
STATE
HAS A
BULLY
%PULPIT ROLE TO
PLAY,
BUT,
MORE
%IMPORTANTLY, AN ACTIVE
ROLE, AN
%ACTION
ROLE,
THAT
RELIES
ON
%INTERACTING
WITH
PEOPLE ON THE
%
-- YOU
KNOW,
ELECTED
OFFICIALS%ARE FINE.
%WE'RE
GOING
TO
CONTINUE THOSE
%CONVERSATIONS.
%BUT THE
MORE
I
AND
OTHER
STATE
%LEADERS SPEND
TIME
SPEAKING
TO
%PEOPLE ON THE
GROUND
IN
CITIES
%
AND
VILLAGES ACROSS THE STATE O
N
%THIS
ISSUE
, THE
BETTER
OFF
WE'LL
%BE.%>>
AND
YOU'RE
COMMITTED TO
DOING
%THAT IN
THE
DAYS
AND
WEEKS
%AHEAD.%>>
YEAH.
%I ALWAYS HAVE
BEEN.
%THIS
IS AN
ISSUE
THAT I
HAVE
-
%IT'S BEEN
BURNING
IN
MY
SOUL
F
OR
%YEARS.
%
AND
THIS
-- WE
HAVE
-- WE
HAVE A
%GOOD OPPORTUNITY
IN
THE STATE OF%
WISCONSIN.
%PEOPLE
ARE
PROTESTING
AROUND
%SOME
REALLY
IMPORTANT
THINGS,
%AND I'M
LOOKING
FORWARD
TO
%DELIVERING ON SOME
OF
THOSE
%THINGS
THEY'RE INTERESTED
IN.
%>>
GOVERNOR TONY
EVERS, THANK%YOU
VERY
MUCH
FOR
JOINING
US.
%>> THANK