AND THANK YOU FOR COVERING IT.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> MANY PLACES ARE BACK TO
% BUSINESS AS USUAL WITHOUT
% RESTRICTIONS.
% THE STATE SUPREME COURT DECISION
% COMES TWO DAYS AFTER A NEW
% DIRECTIVE FROM GOVERNOR TONY
% EVERS TO TURN THE DIAL TO OPEN
% WISCONSIN A BIT MORE.
% UNDER THAT NEW ORDER EARLIER IN
% THE WEEK, SMALL RETAIL
% BUSINESSES COULD REOPEN WITH
% RESTRICTIONS.
% THE ORDER ALLOWED CUSTOMERS TO
% VISIT PLACES LIKE STRIP MALLS
% WITH DOORS THAT ENTER AND EXIT
% DIRECTLY TO THE OUTSIDE,
% ALLOWING FOR NO MORE THAN FIVE
% PATRONS INSIDE AT ONE TIME.
% A PATCHWORK OF COUNTIES AND
% CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE
% KEEPING THE "SAFER AT HOME"
% GUIDELINES IN PLACE WHILE OTHERS
% HAVE FULLY REOPENED.
% WE TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK'S
% DEVELOPMENT IN OUR WEEKLY
% ONE-ON-ONE WITH TONY EVERS, WHO
% JOINED US EARLIER.
% AND, GOVERNOR, THANKS VERY MUCH
% FOR DOING SO.
% >> THANKS, FREDERICA.
% >> WE LED INTO THIS TALKING
% ABOUT HOW YOUR PHASED-IN
% APPROACH WAS STARTING THIS WEEK,
% WHEN THE SUPREME COURT SHELVED
% YOUR PLAN.
% WHAT WAS IT LIKE, FIRST, WHEN
% YOU LEARNED OF THE DECISION, AND
% THEN WHEN YOU READ IT?
% >> WELL, IT WAS DISAPPOINTING,
% YOU KNOW.
% I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT FACTS AND
% THE STATE STATUTES AND
% PRECEDENCE MATTERED.
% IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T IN THIS
% CASE.
% IT WAS JUST A WRONG-HEADED
% DECISION.
% AND SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE
% IMPACT HAS BEEN IMMEDIATE.
% THERE IS -- ESSENTIALLY THEY
% FOUND IT TO BE UNCONSTITUTIONAL,
% AND SO WE'VE MOVED INTO THE NEW
% WORLD OF HAVING NO RULE OF THE
% ROAD.
% >> WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN
% YOU SAW PEOPLE PORING INTO BARS
% IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE
% DECISION?
% >> I KNOW NOT ALL BARS AND ALL
% BUSINESSES ARE THAT WAY, BUT
% CERTAINLY TO HAVE THE TAVERN
% LEAGUE GET OUT IN FRONT OF THIS
% AND THEN HAVING MANY TOO PEOPLE
% TOGETHER IN A SMALL PLACE,
% SHOULDER TO SHOULDER, NO MASKS,
% IT'S INVITING THE VIRUS TO WALK
% ON IN AND BE TRANSMITTED.
% THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE.
% >> IN THE FACE OF THAT, SEVERAL
% LOCAL OR COUNTY HEALTH
% DEPARTMENTS IMPOSED THEIR OWN
% SAFETY ORDERS IN PLACE OF THE
% STATEWIDE PLAN.
% BUT NOW SOME ARE STARTING TO
% RESCIND THEM, WORRIED ABOUT
% WHETHER OR NOT IN FACT THEY'RE
% LEGAL BECAUSE OF THAT COURT
% RULING.
% WHAT IN YOUR MIND DOES THIS SAY
% ABOUT THIS LOCAL APPROACH?
% >> WELL, THAT'S JUST IT.
% IT CREATES GREAT CONFUSION,
% FIRST OF ALL, AND -- DEPENDING
% ON THE COUNTY YOU LIVE IN, AND
% SO THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN.
% SOME OF THEM MAY WALK THEM BACK.
% SOME OF THEM WON'T.
% I THINK IT'S LESS AROUND -- LESS
% AROUND THE LEGALITY OF IT.
% I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A
% DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE LAW.
% SO I THINK THEY HAVE THE ABILITY
% TO DO IT.
% BUT THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
% THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THEIR
% NEIGHBORS, AND I GUESS THAT'S A
% RATIONAL THING TO DO.
% BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY,
% HAVING THIS BEING DONE LOCALLY
% CREATES A LOT OF CONFUSION AND,
% FRANKLY, I THINK IT DOESN'T DO
% MUCH FOR PEOPLE'S CONFIDENCE.
% >> YOU'RE NOW MEETING WITH
% SPEAKER VOS, MAJORITY LEADER
% FITZGERALD TO WORK UP
% ADMINISTRATIVE RULES TO MANAGE
% THE PANDEMIC, AND YOUR
% DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WROTE A
% SCOPE STATEMENT OUTLINING THOSE
% RULES.
% I READ THEM.
% THEY LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE "SAFER
% AT HOME" AND BADGER BOUNCE BACK
% UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.
% WHY DO YOU THINK THOSE ARE GOING
% TO FLY?
% >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, A SCOPE
% STATEMENT IS A VERY BROAD
% STATEMENT OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
% BE LOOKING AT.
% AND, AS YOU SEE, THERE'S LOTS OF
% "MAYS" IN THAT STATEMENT.
% AND SO, YES, IT GIVES US A
% PARAMETER.
% WHAT MATTERS IS THE RULE ITSELF.
% BUT ALSO, FREDERICA, TO BE
% HONEST WITH YOU, THIS ISN'T
% GOING TO BE ANY GRAND BARGAIN
% AMONG THE DEMOCRATS AND THE
% REPUBLICANS BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY
% WE WERE TOLD BY THE LEADERSHIP
% THAT THEY WEREN'T GOING TO
% ACCEPT ANYTHING THAT CREATES ANY
% NEW RESTRICTIONS OR NEW
% PARAMETERS AROUND WHAT'S
% HAPPENING NOW.
% IN FACT, THEY WERE VERY HAPPY
% WITH WHAT EXISTS.
% >> IN FACT, SHE'S THE CO-CHAIR
% OF THE RULES COMMITTEE THAT MUST
% VOTE ON AND CAN VETO ANY RULES.
% SENATOR NASS SAID I CALL ON
% GOVERNOR EVERS TO END THE SCOPE
% STATEMENT AND END THIS NEEDLESS
% CONFRONTATION.
% WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT?
% >> I'D SAY WAIT UNTIL YOU SEE
% THE RULE.
% THIS IS A SCOPE STATEMENT,
% SENATOR NASS.
% THIS ISN'T THE RULE.
% THIS ISN'T SOME SORT OF PANACEA.
% WE'VE ALREADY TOLD BY THE
% LEADERSHIP WHAT'S GOING TO COME
% OUT OF THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE
% ANY KIND OF IMPINGEMENT ON WHAT
% HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.
% IN FACT, THEY'RE VERY HAPPY
% ABOUT THAT.
% YOU KNOW, SHORTLY AFTER THE TURN
% OF THE MONTH, MAY 1 OR 2, GET A
% LEADER FROM SPEAKER VOS SAYING
% THEY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO
% SLOW, DELIBERATE, THOUGHTFUL WAY
% OF OPENING THE ECONOMY, JUST
% LIKE WE ARE.
% BUT INTERVENING HAS BEEN THIS
% SUPREME COURT RACE -- OR NOT
% RACE, BUT THE DECISION.
% SO IT IS WHAT IT IS.
% IT EXISTS, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO
% EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE
% -- WE'RE HOPEFUL PEOPLE WILL
% STILL STAY HOME AND DO THE TESTS
% AND TRACINGS AND ALL THE THINGS
% THAT ARE IMPORTANT.
% >> GOVERNOR TONY EVERS, THANK
% YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.
% WE WILL BE WATCHING THESE
% DEVELOPMENTS.
% THANK YOU.
% >> THANK YOU, FREDERICA.