% PRIMARY ELECTION
DAY
IS
% FEBRUARY 18 AND
WE
TUR
N
NOW
TO
% OUR
INTERVIEW
SER
IES
WITH
% CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR
THE
STATE% SUPREME COURT.
% TWO WEEKS
AGO,
WE
TALKED
W
ITH
% INCUMBENT
JUSTICE
DANIEL
KELLY,
% LAST
WEE
K
MARQUETTE
L
AW
SCHOOL
% PROFESSOR ED
FALLONE.
% TONIGHT
WE INTRODUCE
Y
OU
TO JILL
% KAROFSKY.
% SHE
CURRENTLY
S
ERVES
AS A DANE
% COUNTY
CIRCUIT
COURT
JUDGE,
THE
% FORMER
EXECUTIVE OF
THE
% WISCONSIN OFFICE OF
CRIME
VICTIM
% SERVICES AND
SHE'S A
F
ORMER
% STATE
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
% GENERAL.
% JILL KAROFSKY JOINS
U
S
NOW.
% THANKS
VERY
MUCH
F
OR
BEING
HERE.
% >>
THANKS SO MUCH
F
OR
HAVING ME
% HERE.%>>
WE JUST
WAN
T T
O
ASK
YOU
W
HY
% VOTERS
SHOULD
ELECT
YOU TO
THE
% STATE SUPREME
COURT.
% >>
V
OTERS
SHOULD
ELECT
M
E
% BECAUSE I HAVE
THE
EXPERIENCE, I% HAVE
THE
VALUES
AND I
HAVE
THE
% ENERGY
TO
NOT
ONLY
WIN
T
HIS
% ELECTION, BUT
TO
B
E ON
THE
% SUPREME COURT.
% I'M
THE
ONLY
PERSON
IN
THIS
RAC
E
% WHO IS
OR
WHO
HAS
EVER
BEEN A
% TRIAL
COURT
JUDGE.
% I
PRESIDED
OVER MORE
T
HA
N
1700
% CASES LAST YEAR.
% I
SEE
E
VERY
DAY
H
OW
T
HE
LAW
% IMPACTS REAL PEOPLE.
%
I ALSO
H
AVE
EXPERIENCES
AS
A
% PROSECUTOR.
% I
KNOW
H
OW TO
B
E
SMART O
N
CRIME.
% I
KNOW THE
IMPORTANCE OF
% PROTECTING
INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF
% VICTIMS,
OF
WITNESSES,
OF
% DEFENDANTS, OF MEMBERS
OF
OUR
% COMMUNITY.
% I
ALSO HAVE
BEEN
A
VICTIM
% ADVOCATE, AS YOU
MENTIONED.
% I
WAS
WISCONSIN
'
S
FIRST
VIOLENCE
% AGAINST
WOMEN
RESOURCE
% PROSECUTOR AND
I
HELPED
VICTIMS
% IN
EVERY
COUNTY I
N
THI
S
STATE
% GET THE
SERVICES
AND
TH
E
HEL
P
% THAT THEY
NEEDED.
% I
HAV
E
THE
DEPTH
AND
BREAT
H
O
F
% EXPERIENCE
THA
T WE
N
EED ON
THE% SUPREME
COURT.
% >>
S
AY
THAT
CURRENTLY
% JUSTICES
ARE
ACTING
LIKE
% POLITICIANS.
% HOW
S
O
?
% >>
AS
I'V
E
BEEN
TRAVELING AROUND
% THE STATE
LISTENING
T
O
VOTERS,
I
% HEAR THE
SAM
E
THING.
% WHAT THEY
SE
E
ARE
JUSTICES
THAT
% MAKE
DECISIONS
BEFORE
ANYONE
% EVER
WALKS
I
NTO
THE
STATE% SUPREME
COURT
CHAMBER.
% THEY
SE
E
JUSTICES
WHO DO
NOT
% FOLLOW THE RULE
O
F
LAW, MORE% MORE
INTERESTED IN
PROTECTING
% CORPORATIONS THAN IN
PROTECTING% OUR
A
IR
AND
W
ATER
FROM
CORPORATE
% POLLUTERS.
% THEY
SEE
JUSTICES WHO
ARE -
-
ALL
% OF THAT
FEE
LS
LIKE
CORRUPTION TO
% PEOPLE,
BECAUSE
WHAT WE
HAVE
I
S% A
JUSTICE ON THE
COURT
WHO
MAKES
% DECISIONS EVERY TIME H
E
HAS
T
HE
% OPPORTUNITY
TO
FOR
CORPORATIONS,
% FOR
TH
E
WEALTHY AND
FOR
TH
E
% RIGHT
WING
SPECIAL
INTERESTS
% THAT
WORKED
HARD TO
GET
HIM
ON
% THE COURT
A
ND
I
S
WORKING HARD TO
% KEEP
HIM ON
THE
COURT.
% >>
WHAT'S AN EXAMPLE
OF A
C
AS
E
% LIKE
THAT
?% >> IF
YOU
LOO
K
A
T
-
- THERE
% CASE
IN
2016
DEALING
WITH
THE
% ADMINISTRATIVE RULES AT
THE
% DEPARTMENT
OF PUBLIC
% INSTRUCTION, AT
DPI.
% AND THE
COURT
RULED ONE
WAY
I
N
% 2016.
% IN
2019
WIT
H
DAN
KELLY ON THE
% COURT,
THE
COURT
RULED
180
% DEGREES
DIFFERENT DIRECTION.% THE ONLY THI
NG THAT
CHANGED ON
% THE COURT
-
AND THIS WAS
WHA
T
%
JUSTICE ANNUAL
SHALL
WALSH-BRADLEY
WROTE, THE
% ONLY
THING
THAT
CHANGED
WAS
THE
% MAKEUP OF THE
COURT.
% SO WHAT WE
HAVE I
S A
COURT
WHO
% WANTS
TO
CHANGE
THE
LAW
.
% HOW ARE WE
HE
IN
WISCONSIN
% SUPPOSED
TO
K
NOW
WHAT
THE
LAW
IS
% IF THREE YEARS
AFTER A
DECISION
% THEY RUL
E
180
DEGREES
THE
OTHER
% WAY?%>> DO
YOU
F
EEL
LIKE
RECUSAL
% RULES NEED TO B
E
STRICTER?
% >> I
THINK WE
NEED TO
HAVE A
% RECUSAL RULE.
% WE
DON'T
H
AVE A RULE.
% YES.
% WE NEED A RULE.
% IT'S
WHAT'S
FAIR
TO
VOTERS
A
ND
% CANDIDATES IN THE STATE.
% IT'S WHAT
IS
FAIR
TO
JUDGES
AND
% JUSTICES
I
N
THE
STATE.
% JUSTICES
HAD
THE
CHANCE
T
O
CRAFT
% A
RULE
WHEN
KELLY
WAS ON
THE
% COURT AND
THEY
DIDN'T EVEN
HOLD% A
HEARING
T
O
GATHER
INFORMATION% TO BE
ABL
E
TO
CRAFT A
RULE.
% >>
Y
OU
ARE
QUOTED AS
SAYING
AS% WE
NEED
TO
REFORM THE
CRIMINAL
% JUSTICE
SYSTEM WIT
H
A
N
EYE
% TOWARD
SOCIAL
JUSTICE?
% HOW
SO?
% >> I DON'T THINK ANYONE
WHO HAS
% BEEN ON THE
FRON
T
LINES OF
THE
% JUSTICE SYSTEM
LIK
E I
HAVE
-
% AND
I'M
THE
ONLY
ONE
IN
THIS
% RACE
WHO
HAS
SPENT
MOS
T
OF
THEIR
% CAREERS IN
THE
FRONT LI
NES
OF
% THE JUSTICE
SYSTEM.
% I DON'T
THINK Y
OU CAN
BE
THERE
% WITHOUT
THINKING WE NEED
TO
% REFORM
OUR
CRIMINAL JUSTICE
%
SYSTEM.
% AND I
THINK THAT
THE
FIRST
THIN
G%
WE NEED TO
D
O
IS
A
DMIT THAT
% THERE'S A PROBLEM.
% WE DO
HAVE A P
ROBLEM.% WE
HAVE A
P
ROBLEM
WHEN I
T
COMES
% TO
RACIAL
DISPARITY
I
N
OUR
% CRIMINAL JUSTICE
S
YSTEM.
% WE
H
AVE A
P
ROBLEM
IN
WISCONSIN
% WITH
MASS
INCARCERATION.
% WHAT A JUDGE WHAT
I
C
AN
DO
IS
T
O
% TAKE
STEPS
T
O
T
RY
TO
MITIGATE
% THAT PROBLEM.
% AND
I
DO
I
T
IN
MY
COURTROOM BY
% MAKING SURE
I
'M
DIVERTING PEOPLE
% TO
TREATMENT
COURTS,
OWI
% TREATMENT
COURT,
DRUG
TREATMENT
% COURT,
VETERANS TREATMENT COURT.
% WE
HAVE A
PROGRAM
IN DANE
COUNTY
% WHERE
PEOPLE
C
AN
D
O
COMMUNITY
% SERVICE
INSTE
AD
O
F
PAYING A
FINE
% OR
G
O
T
O
JAIL
A
ND
I
REFER P
EOPLE
% THERE
EVERY
OPPORTUNITY I
HAVE.
% I
CA
N'T
MAKE
POL
ICY AS A
JUDGE.
% I
CERTAINLY
WOULDN'T MAKE
POLICY
% AS A
STATE SUPREME
COURT
% JUSTICE.
% BUT
I
CAN
TELL
THE
POLICYMAKERS,
% THE
LEGISLATORS, WHA
T
I
'M
SEEING
% TO
INFORM
THEIR
DECISIONS.% >> DOES THIS
MAKE
YOU
SOF
T
ON
% CRIME?
% >> I DON'T KNOW
HOW
ANYONE
COULD
% THINK TH
AT
I
'M
S
OF
T O
N
CRIME.
% WHAT I
DO
I
N M
Y
COURTROOM
I
S
I
% FOLLOW
TH
E
RULE O
F
LAW EVERY
% DAY.
% AND I
F Y
OU
L
OO
K
A
T
DECISIONS% THAT I HAVE
MADE,
YOU
WILL
SEE A
% JUDGE
WHO
WHEN
I'M
SENTENCING
% PEOPLE
RELIES ON
THE
SENTENCING
% FACTORS
I
N
THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN,
THE
SEVERITY OF THE
% CRIME, THE
PROTECTING THE
% PUBLIC,
THE
CHARACTER
AND
% REHABILITATION NEEDS OF THE
% OFFENDS
% OFFENDS ER.
% I
BALANCE
THOSE
AND THAT
I
S
HOW
% I
COME
T
O A
SENTENCE
EVERY
% SINGLE
TIME.% >>
JUSTICE
KELLY
WAS
ENDORSED% THIS
W
EEK
B
Y PRESIDENT TRUMP.
% WHAT'S
YOU
THAT?
% >>
I
THINK PRESIDENT
TRUMP
W
ANTS
% DAN
KELLY TO
BE ON
THE
WISCONSIN% SUPREME COURT BECAUSE I
F
AND
% WHEN THERE
IS
LITIG
ATION IN
THE
% NOVEMBER ELECTION, HE
WIL
L
H
AVE
% DAN
KELLY ON
THE
COURT
AND
WE% KNOW
BASED
O
N
HIS TRACK
RECORD
% OF ALL
RULING FOR
REPUBLICANS
% AND
RIGHT
WING
SPECIAL INTERESTS
% HOW HE I
S
GOING
T
O
RULE
I
N
THAT
% CASE.%>> DO YOU THINK
THAT
T
HE
DATE OF
% THE
PRESIDENTIAL
PRIMARY
FALLING% ON THE
SAME
DATE
AS
THE
GENERAL
% ELECTION FOR THE
STATE
OR% SUPREME COURT HELPS OR
HURTS
YOU
% IN
TER
MS
OF
INTEREST O
R
TURNOUT?
% >>
I
THINK THAT
GETTING
PEOPLE
% TO
THE
P
OLLS
NO
MATTER
W
HA
T R
ACE
% YOU'RE IN
IS
HUGELY,
HUGELY
% IMPORTANT.
% OUR JOB
I
N
THIS RACE
IS
TO
MAK
E
% SURE TH
AT
WHE
N PEOPLE G
O
T
O
THE
% POLLS
O
N
APRIL 7
THAT
THEY
VOTE
% ALL THE WAY
THROUGH THAT
BALLOT,
% THAT THEY
V
OTE
F
OR
PRESIDENT,
% THAT THEY
V
OTE
F
OR SUPREME
% COURT,
THAT
THEY
VOTE
FOR
A
LL
% THEIR LOCAL
ELECTIONS
AND COURT% OF
APPEALS
IF
THAT'S ON
THE
% BALLOT
FOR
THEM AS
WELL.
% THAT'S OUR
JOB
I
N
THIS
E
LECTION,
% TO MAKE
SURE
THAT
WE
G
ET
PEOPLE
% TO THE P
OLLS
AND
THA
T
THEY
VOTE
% FOR JILL KAROFSKY
FOR SUPREME
% COURT.%>> ALL
RIGHT.