OUR
FIRST
LOOK
TONIGHT
IS
AT
% THE IMPEACHMENT
HEARINGS
THAT
% BEGAN THIS
WEEK
IN
WASHINGTON.
% DEMOCRATS IN
THE
HOUSE
PRESENTED
% THEIR
FIRST
WITNESSES
INTO% DONALD TRUMP'S
REQUEST
THAT
THE
% UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT OPEN
UP AN
% INVESTIGATION INTO JOE
BIDEN
IN
% EXCHANGE
FOR
MILITARY AID.
% THE QUESTION
FOR
MEMBERS OF
% CONGRESS
IS
WHETHER
THOSE
% ACTIONS QUALIFY
AS
HIGH
CRIMES
% AND MISDEMEANOR
AND
THEREFORE
% JUSTIFY IMPEACHMENT.%WE HE
!
WE
BEGIN
WITH
CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN
% MOORE.
% WHAT STOOD
OUT TO
YOU
SO FAR
IN
% THE TESTIMONY THAT
WE'VE
HEARD?
% >>
WHAT
HAS
STOOD
OUT
T
O
ME
MOST
% OF
ALL,
ZAC,
IS
THE
INTEGRITY
OF
% THESE
STATE
DEPARTMENT
OFFICIALS
% WHO HAVE
COME
FORWARD.
% THEIR
EXCELLENT
CREDENTIALS, THE
% FACT THAT
THEY'VE
SERVED
OUR
% COUNTRY
OVER
THIS
REPUBLICAN
% PRESIDENT,
BUT
DEMOCRATIC% PRESIDENTS
IN
THE
PAST.
% THEY'RE FACT WITNESSES.
% THEY'RE
NOT
THERE
WITH A DOG
IN
% THE
FIGHT, BUT
SIMPLY
TO
GIVE
% THE
FACTS.% >>
YESTERDAY
HOUSE
SPEAKER NANCY% PELOSI
STARTED
USING
THE
TERM
% BRIBERY
TO
DESCRIBE DONALD
% TRUMP'S
ACTIONS.
% DO
YOU
AGREE
WITH
THAT
TERM?
% >>
ACTUALLY, THAT
WORD
IS
TAKEN
% FROM
THE
CONSTITUTION.
% WHAT OUR
FOUNDING FATHERS WERE
% VERY,
VERY
CONCERNED
ABOUT
WAS
% BRIBERY.
% THEY DIDN'T HAVE
THE
WHOLE CODE
% OF
--
THE
CRIMINAL CODE
THAT
HAS
% EVOLVED
THROUGHOUT
THE
CENTURIES
% SINCE
THEY
FOUNDED
THE
COUNTRY.
% BUT THEY
WERE
VERY
CLEAR
THAT% THEY
WERE
CONCERNED ABOUT
THE
% ABUSE OF
POWER
AND
BRIBERY
OF
O
R
% FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY.
% I CAN
TELL
YOU
THAT THE
FOUNDING
% FATHERS
ANTICIPATED
THIS
% PRESIDENT.%>>
NOW,
SOME
OF
THESE
WITNESSES
% HAVE
ALREADY
TESTIFIED
BEHIND
% CLOSED DOORS.
% WHAT'S THE
IMPORTANCE
OF
HAVING
% THEM
TESTIFY I
N
PUBLIC?
% >>
WELL,
YOU
KNOW,
I'VE
LEARNED% A
GREAT
DEAL
THROUGH
THIS
% PROCESS.
% AND
THIS
WAS
--
THE BEHIND
THE
% CLOSED
DOORS
PHASE
WAS
THE
% INDICTMENT PHASE.
% AND
WHEN
SUBJECTS
ARE
BEING
% INDICTED, THOSE
TESTIMONIES ARE
% OFTEN TAKEN
BEFORE A
GRAND
JURY
% OR BEHIND
CLOSED
DOORS.
% AND
THIS WOULD BE
SORT OF
THE
% PUBLIC
PART OF
THE
INDICTMENT.
% SO BEFORE THE
HOUSE
OF
% REPRESENTATIVES
MAKES
THE
% INDICTMENT
AND
IMPEACHES
--
AND
% PUTS
FORWARD ARTICLES OF
% IMPEACHMENT, WE
WANT
THE
PUBLIC
% TO
KNOW
AND
SEE
WHAT
THE
% REASONING I
S
BEHIND
THESE
% CHARGES.
% AND I
THINK
THAT
THE
PUBLIC
WILL
% HAVE AN
OPPORTUNITY
TO
DETERMINE
% FOR
THEMSELVES WHETHER OR NOT% THERE
WAS AN ABUSE
OF
POWER,
% WHETHER
OR
NOT
BRIBERY
OF A
% FOREIGN COUNTRY
WAS
INVOLVED
AND
% WHETHER OR NOT
THE
PRESIDENT
% USED
THE OFFICE OF
THE
% PRESIDENCY
FOR
CORRUPT
PURPOSES.% >>
THE
VOTES
TO IMPEACH
IN
THE
% HOUSE
AND A
POTENTIAL
VOTE
TO
% CONVICT
IN
THE
SENATE
COME
WITH
% POLITICAL
BAGGAGE.
% HOW
IMPORTANT IS
SHIFTING
PUBLIC
% OPINION
BEFORE
THOSE
VOTES
% OCCUR?%>>
I
THINK
IT'S
EXTREMELY
% IMPORTANT TO HAVE
PUBLIC
% SENTIMENT.
% PUBLIC SENTIMENT
IS
EVERYTHING.
% BUT THAT
BEING
SAID,
ZAC,
WE
ALL
% TOOK AN
OATH
OF
OFFICE TO
% SUPPORT
THE
CONSTITUTION OF
THE% UNITED STATES.
% AND
IT'S
OUR
RESPONSIBILITY
TO
% MOVE
FORWARD
WITH
THIS
% IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY
AND IF
THE
% JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
DETERMINES
% THAT THERE
ARE
LEGITIMATE% ARTICLES OF
IMPEACHMENT,
TO
MOVE
% FORWARD AND
TO
DO
OUR
% CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY.
% I DON'T
THINK
THAT WE
SHOULD
% WORRY
ABOUT
THE
POLITICAL
% FALLOUT,
WILL
THIS
MEAN
THAT
WE
% WILL OR WILL NOT
BE
% REELECTED, AND I
THINK
THAT THAT
% IS
WHAT
I
FIND
SO
DISAPPOINTING,
% THAT WE
ARE
NOT
FINDING
OUR
% REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES
STEPPING% UP TO
MEET
THEIR
CONSTITUTIONAL
% OBLIGATIONS TO
ASK
LEGITIMATE
% QUESTIONS,
BUT
PREDETERMINING
% THAT
THEY
DON'T
WANT TO
BE ON
% THE WRONG SIDE
OF
THIS
% PRESIDENT.
% AND I
THINK
THAT THAT
IS
% SOMETHING THAT
IN
THE
FINAL
% ANALYSIS
MAY
INURE
TO
CERTAINLY
% A A
DOWNGRADING OF
THE
GOP,
THE
% GRAND OLD
PARTY.% >>
NOW,
WE'VE
READ A
LOT
OF
% REPORTS
ABOUT
HOW
REPUBLICANS IN
% CONGRESS ARE
SUPPORTING
TRUMP
% PUBLICLY
BUT
ARE
SAYING
% DIFFERENT THINGS
BEHIND
CLOSED
% DOORS.%WHAT
ARE
YOU
HEARING?
% ARE YOU
SPEAKING TO
ANY
OF
YOUR
% REPUBLICAN
COLLEAGUES?
% >> I
ACTUALLY
AM.
% I
HAVE
QUIET
CONVERSATIONS% WITH
REPUBLICANS
AND I
HAVE
NOT
% ASKED
THEM,
YOU
KNOW,
WHAT
THEY
% REALLY
THOUGHT.
% I'VE
ONLY
ADMONISHED
THEM
TO
% THINK
ABOUT
THEIR
CAREERS
BEYOND% DONALD TRUMP.
% DONALD
TRUMP
WILL
NOT
ALWAYS
BE
% THE
PRESIDENT.
% AND
FOR
THOSE
REPUBLICANS THAT
I
% CARE
FOR
-
AND THERE ARE
MANY
% THAT I
PERSONALLY CARE
FOR
--
% I'M ASKING THEM
TO
THINK
ABOUT
% THEIR
PERSONAL
REPUTATIONS,
% THEIR
OWN
INTEGRITY,
THEIR
% CONSCIENCE, THEIR
SOULS
AND
% CERTAINLY THE
OATH
THAT
THEY
% TOOK.
% AND
IF
THEY
CAN'T
STAND UP
AND
% BE BRAVE
ENOUGH
TO
LOOK
AT
THE
% FACTS
--
SOME
REPUBLICANS
HAVE% SAID
WE'RE
NOT
GOING
TO
LOOK
AT
% THE FACTS.
% IF
THEY
CAN'T
REALLY
LOOK
AT
THE
% FACTS, THEY
OUGHT
TO
REEXAMINE
% WHY
THEY
RAN
FOR
OFFICE.%@>>
HOW
MANY
MEMBERS
OF
CONGRESS
% IN
EITHER
PARTY DO YOU
THINK
ARE
% STILL
UNDECIDED
ON
IMPEACHMENT% AND WANT TO
HEAR
ALL
THE
% TESTIMONY TO
MAKE
U
P
THEIR
% MINDS?%>> YOU
KNOW,
I
DO
THINK
THAT% THERE
ARE
MANY
AMERICANS
AND% THERE ARE
MEMBERS
OF
CONGRESS
% WHO
REALLY,
REALLY DO
% WANT TO
HEAR
THE
FACTS.
% AND
I
DO
THINK
THAT
WITHIN
THE
% DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS
FOR
SURE
I
% KNOW
THAT THERE
ARE
PEOPLE
WHO
% REALLY DO WANT
TO
HEAR
THE
% FACTS.
% THEY
WANT
TO
THREAD THAT
NEEDLE.
% BECAUSE IT
IS
VERY
CONSEQUENTAL
% WHAT THEY
DO.
% WE
HAVE SO
MANY
BRAVE
DEMOCRATS,
% PARTICULARLY
THE
WOMEN
WHO
HAVE
% BACKGROUNDS IN
INTELLIGENCE,
% BACKGROUNDS, AGAIN, WITH
THE
CIA
% AND
SPECIAL
FORCES, WHO ARE
% PUTTING
THEMSELVES
AT
POTENTIAL
% ELECTION RISK TO
DO
THE
RIGHT
% THING.
% AND
I
ADMIRE
THESE
WOMEN SO
MUCH
% BECAUSE THEY ARE
STANDING ON
% PRINCIPLE AND
NOT
JUST
STANDING
% ON WHETHER OR NOT THIS
WILL
% AFFECT
THEIR
ELECTION
OUTCOMES.% >> ALL
RIGHT.
% CONGRESSWOMAN
MOORE, THANKS
FOR
% YOUR TIME
TODAY.% >>
YOU
BE
WELL,
ZAC.
% >>
WE
INVITED
ALL
FOUR
% REPUBLICAN
CONGRESSMEN
AND
% SENATOR RON JOHNSON
TO
APPEAR
ON
% THIS SHOW.