% >>
I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"
U.S.
% SENATOR RON
JOHNSON
O
N
% IMPEACHMENT DEVELOPMENTS IN%
WASHINGTON.
% AN INTERVIEW
WITH
THE
U.S.
% AGRICULTURE SECRETARY
FOLLOWED
% BY A CRVES
!
CONVERSATION WITH
THE
% SECRETARY OF
AG.
% AN
INSIDE
LOOK
AS
THE
2020
% PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION HEATS UP.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
% OCTOBER 4.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
% >>
A
FIRST
LOOK
TONIGHT A
T
THE
% IMPEACHMENT
PROCEEDINGS% INVOLVING DONALD
TRUMP.
% WHILE
THE
DEMOCRATS IN
CONTROL% OF
THE
HOUSE
INVESTIGATE
THE
% PRESIDENT,
REPUBLICANS
IN
% CONTROL OF THE
SENATE
ARE
% LOOKING
ELSEWHERE.
% "HERE AND NOW"
REPORTER ZAC
% SCHULTZ CAUGHT
UP
WITH
WISCONSIN
% U.S.
SENATOR RON JOHNSON TO
ASK
% HIM WHY
HE'S
ONCE
AGAIN
LOOKING
% AT HILLARY
CLINTON'S
EMAILS
AND
% WHETHER WE CAN
TRUST
WHAT
THE
% PRESIDENT I
S
SAYING WHEN
HE
% TWEETS
ABOUT A
POTENTIAL CIVIL
% WAR.
% >>
PRESIDENT
TRUMP
SHOULD
NOT
BE
% USING THE
TYPES
OF
TERMINOLOGY,
% TALKING
ABOUT
POTENTIAL CIVIL
% WAR.%AT THE SAME
TIME, I
WANT
TO
KNOW
% THE
TRUTH, AND
I
THINK
YOU
% CERTAINLY COULD
TAKE A LOOK
AT
% HIS CONVERSATION.
% I
SPOKE
WITH
PRESIDENT TRUMP
% BEFORE
I
WENT
TO
UKRAINE.
% I
OBVIOUSLY
WAS
THERE
WITH
THE
% PRESIDENT.
% HE
INDICATED
THAT
NO
PRESSURE
% WHATSOEVER.
% HE'S
OBVIOUSLY
CONCERNED
ABOUT
% THE
FUNDING,
AS
WAS
I
,
BUT HE
% WAS
COMING
OUT
TODAY
SAYING% THERE
WAS
NO
PRESSURE.
% IT'S
REASONABLE
TO
CONCLUDE WHAT% PRESIDENT TRUMP W
AS
TALKING
% ABOUT AS
THE
CHIEF LAW
% ENFORCEMENT OF THE
EXECUTIVE
% BRANCH,
LET'S GET TO
THE
TRUTH.
% WHAT
HAPPENED
IN
UKRAINE
AS
% RELATES
TO
2016
ELECTION.
% I
WANT
TO
FIN
D
OUT
WHERE
DID
% THIS
NARRATIVE
COME
THAT
HAS
PUT
% THIS COUNTRY
THROUGH AN
ORDEAL
% THAT WE
PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T HAVE
% HAD TO GO
THROUGH.
% SO THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE
HAVE A
% RIGHT TO
KNOW.
% I'M INQUISITIVE.
% I
CAN
UNDERSTAND
AND
I'M
% SYMPATHETIC
WITH PRESIDENT
TRUMP
% WANTING TO
FIND
OUT
WHAT
CAUSED
% ALL THIS.
% WHY
WAS
THIS
COUNTRY
WRUNG
% THROUGH THIS
DAMAGING
BUSINESS.% >>
WHAT
WE
TRUST
WHAT
HE
SAYS
% WHAT
HE
TWEETS OUT
MESSAGES?
% >> HE
HAS AN
UNORTHODOX
STYLE.
% HE'S LOOSE WITH
SOME
OF
HIS
% TWEETS.
% HIS
SUPPORTERS AGREE
WITH
THE
% DIRECTION OF
HIS
POLICIES, WISH
% HE WOULD
TWEET A
WHOLE
LOT
LESS.% >>
DOES
HE
DAMAGE CREDIBILITY
% WHEN HE
TALKS
ABOUT
ISSUES
LIKE
% THIS?%>> WHEN
YOU
GET
IT
WRONG TOO
% MANY
TIMES,
YOU
START
DAMAGING
% YOUR CREDIBILITY.
% FROM
MY
STANDPOINT,
THE
MOST
% VALUABLE
QUALITY A
PUBLIC
% OFFICIAL
CAN
HAVE
IS
% CREDIBILITY.%>> HAS
THE
PRESIDENT
LOST
% CREDIBILITY WITH
YOU?
% >> THERE
ARE A
NUMBER OF
THINGS
% THAT
HE'S
TWEETED
THAT
ARE
NOT
% ACCURATE AND
THAT'S
NOT A
GOOD
% THING.
% >>
WHY ARE
YOU
INVESTIGATING
% FORMER SECRETARY
CLINTON
AND
HER
% EMAILS
AGAIN?
% WHAT'S
BRINGING
THAT
ISSUE
BACK?
% >> WE
WANT
TO
FIND
OUT
SOME
% ANSWERS.
% WHEN
YOU
ARE
CONDUCTING
% CONGRESSIONAL
INVESTIGATION
WHEN
% THERE'S ALSO
CRIMINAL
% INVESTIGATION, WE DON'T
HAVE
% ACCESS TO ANY
INFORMATION.
% I THINK
WE
HE
DO
!
WE
DO
THESE
THINGS
% BACKWARDS.
% THE PUBLIC
HAS A
RIGHT
TO
KNOW
% IF
THERE'S
IMPROPER
BEHAVIOR ON
% THE RIGHT
OF A
PUBLIC
OFFICIAL.
% WE SHOULD
HAVE
ACCESS
TO
THE
% INFORMATION, HOLD
HEARINGS,
% WRITE REPORTS.
% BASED
ON
THOSE
REPORTS,
TALKING
% ABOUT PUBLIC
OFFICIALS, IF
% THERE'S A REQUIREMENT
FOR A
% CRIMINAL
REFERRAL,
WE REFER THAT
% TO
THE
JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT.
% IF
THEY
CAN'T
HANDLE IT
BECAUSE
% OF
CONFLICTS,
THEN
THEY
SET
UP A
% SPECIAL COUNSEL.
% FOR
THE
RUSSIAN
COLLUSION
IT
% WENT
BACKWARDS
AND AS A
RESULT
% THE
AMERICAN
PUBLIC
STILL
% DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AND
% EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED
WITH
% THE
FBI'S
HANDLING
OF
THAT
% INVESTIGATION.
% SO,
AGAIN,
ALL I
WANT
TO
DO
IS
% GET
TO
THE
BOTTOM
OF SO
MANY
% DIFFERENT ISSUES.
% I
HAVE SO
MANY
ANSWERS --
OR SO
% MANY QUESTIONS
THAT I WANT
% ANSWERED
BECAUSE
IF
SOMETHING
% HAPPENED,
THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE
% NEED
TO KNOW
IT.
% IF NOTHING
HAPPENED,
THE
% AMERICAN PEOPLE
NEED
TO
KNOW
% THAT
SO WE
CAN
MOVE
ON.
% WE
HAVE
ENORMOUS
CHALLENGES,
% SERIOUS ISSUES.
% WE
NEED
TO
CONCENTRATE ON
THOSE.
% BUT
UNTIL
THE
AMERICAN
PEOPLE
% UNDERSTAND WHAT
DID
AND
DIDN'T
% HAPPEN, IT'S
GOING TO BE
% DIFFICULT
TO
MOVE
BEYOND THIS
% AND
WE'LL
REMAIN
IN
THIS
% PARTISAN LOG
JAM.
% >>
DEMOCRATS SAY
THEY'RE
BEING
% STONEWALLED BY
SOME OF
THE
% PRESIDENT'S CABINET MEMBERS
AND
% HIS
EMPLOYEES.
% AS A
COMMITTEE
CHAIRMAN, HOW
% WOULD
YOU
FEEL
IF YOU
WERE
% GETTING
NO RESPONSE
OR
BEING
% TOLD
THAT
THEY
WEREN'T
GOING
T
O
% COME
TO
TESTIFY
BEFORE
YOUR
% COMMITTEE?
% >>
I'VE
BEEN
STONEWALLED
BY
BOTH
% ADMINISTRATIONS.
% THERE'S
RELUCTANCE
TO
SHARE
% INFORMATION WITH CONGRESS.
% THEY DON'T
WANT
TO
SET
DIFFERENT
% PRECEDENTS.%THERE
IS A
REASON
WHY YOU
HAVE
% EXECUTIVE
PRIVILEGE.
% THERE'S A REASON WHY
IT'S
VERY
% DAMAGING
NOW
THAT
ANOTHER
% TELEPHONE
CONVERSATION
% TRANSCRIPT HAS
BEEN
LEAKED.
% AND
IN
THIS
CASE IT
WAS
JUST
% BASICALLY
OFFERED
BECAUSE
% PRESIDENT WANTED
TO
EXONERATE
% HIMSELF.
% THAT'S
INCREDIBLY
DAMAGING.
% WORLD
LEADERS,
MEMBERS OF
THE
% PRESIDENT'S
STAFF,
HAVE TO
BE
% ABLE TO
HAVE
CANDID
% CONVERSATIONS IN ORDER
FOR A
% PRESIDENT T
O
CONDUCT
FOREIGN
% POLICY OR
TO
GOVERN
EFFECTIVELY.
% IT'S AN
ENORMOUS
CHALLENGE BEING
% PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
% YOU
NEED
CANDID
ADVICE,
CANDID
% CONVERSATIONS.
% THERE'S A
REASON YOU
HAVE
% EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE AND
WHY
% THESE
TRANSCRIPTS
NEVER SHOULD% HAVE
SEEN THE
LIGHT
OF DAY.
% >>
IF
THE
HOUSE
VOTES
TIME
% PEACH,
!
--
VOTES
TO
IMPEACH, DO
YOU
EXPECT TO SEE
% ANY ACTION
ON
YOUR
COMMITTEE?
% >> WE
HAVE
NEVER
STOPPED
OUR
% GATHERING OF
INFORMATION.
% I NEVER
HELD A
TRIAL
ON HILLARY
% CLINTON'S
EMAIL.
% I'M JUST
TRYING
TO
GATHER
THE
% INFORMATION TO GET TO THE
TRUTH.
% I
WOULD
EXPECT
THAT
GATHERING
OF
% INFORMATION INVESTIGATION
WILL
% CONTINUE.
% AT SOME
POINT
IN
TIME
WE
REQUIRE% A
HEARING,
WE'LL
HOLD
ONE.
% >> THANK
YOU,
SENATOR.
% >> THANK
YOU.% >>
BY
FRIDAY,
THE
SENATOR WAS
% DOUBLING DOWN
WITH
CALLS
TO
LOOK
% INTO HILLARY
CLINTON'S
CAMPAIGN,% AS WELL AS
THE
UKRAINIAN
COMPANY
% THAT
HUNTER
BIDEN
WORKED
FOR.
% HE SAYS
HE
HAS
NO
PROBLEM
WITH% PRESIDENT TRUMP
CALLING
ON
CHINA
% TO INVESTIGATE.
% FOR HER
PART,
DEMOCRATIC
U.S.
% SENATOR TAMMY BALDWIN SENT
OUT
% THIS
TWEET ON
THE
IMPEACHMENT
% EFFORTS.
% QUOTE, THIS IS
YOUR
DEMOCRACY
% AND WE
SHOULD
STAND
UNITED
AND
% PUT
OUR
COUNTRY
FIRST
SENDING A
% CLEAR MESSAGE
TO DONALD TRUMP
% AND THE
REST OF
THE
WORLD
THAT
% WE
WILL
NOT
TOLERATE
FOREIGN
% INTERFERENCE IN
OUR
AMERICAN
% ELECTIONS."
% >>
NOW
TO
AGRICULTURE
NEWS
AND
% ONGOING
CHALLENGES
FOR
STATE
% FARMERS.
% GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
HAD
SOME
% CHOICE
WORDS
FOR
U.S.
% AGRICULTURE
SECRETARY SONNY% PERDUE IN
THE
AFTERMATH
OF
% PERDUE'S VISIT
TO
WISCONSIN THIS
% WEEK.
% EVERS
SAID
THAT
PERDUE
KIND
OF
% PUT
THE
POX
ON
SMALL
FARMING
AND
% AMERICA'S
DAIRYLAND.% HE
WAS
REFERRING
TO
COMMENTS
% PERDUE MADE
IN
MADISON
SPEAKING
% ABOUT THE
SIZE
OF
FARMS
% SURVIVING IN
TODAY'S
ECONOMY,
% PERDUE
SAID,
QUOTE,
BIG
GET
% BIGGER AND
SMALL
GO
OUT.
% "HERE AND
NOW'S" ZAC SCHULTZ% CAUGHT
UP
WITH
SECRETARY
PERDUE% AFTER THE
DAIRY
EXPO
APPEARANCE
% AND ASKED
HIM
TO
CLARIFY
HIS
% STATEMENT ABOUT
THE
DECLINE
OF
% SMALL
FARMS, WHICH
WAS
SHUTTING
% DOWN
LAST
YEAR
AT A
RATE
OF
TWO
% PER DAY.%>>
AGAIN,
WHAT
I
SEE
HAPPENING
% NATIONALLY, A
LOT
OF
THE
SMALLER
% DAIRIES
ARE
DOING
VALUE-ADDED,% SOME
OF
THEIR
OWN
PROCESSING,% ICE CREAM
OR
OTHER
TYPES
OF
% PRODUCTS AND
THEY'RE
BEING
VERY
% SUCCESSFUL.
% THAT'S
NOT
FOR
EVERYONE.
% BUT
IN
DAIRY
TODAY
THE
CAPITAL
% INVESTMENT IS
SO
GREAT
IT'S
% PRETTY
TOUGH OUT THERE.
% I
WILL
NOTE
THAT
THE
NEW
FARM
% BILL,
2018 FARM BILL,
PROVIDES A% HOT
OF
HELP
FOR
SMALLER
DAIRIES% THAT
WERE
NOT
HELPED
IN
THE
'14
% FARM
BILL.
% THAT'S A BIG CHANGE.
% I WOULD
ASK
THEM
TO
INVESTIGATE
% THAT
AND
APPLY
FOR
THAT
DAIRY
% MARGIN
COVERAGE
PROGRAM AS WELL
% AS THE
FARM
BUREAU
INSURANCE
% PROGRAM.
% IT'S A
RISK
MANAGEMENT
THAT
% HELPS
THEM
REALLY
HAVE A
MINIMUM
% PRICE
FOR
THEIR
DAIRY
PRODUCTS.% >>
IN A
STATE
LIKE
WISCONSIN,
% THERE'S AN
EMOTIONAL
ATTACHMENT
% TO
SMALL
FARMS.
% FOR
ECONOMIC REASONS
DO WE
NEED
% TO PUT
SOME
OF
THAT
EMOTION
% ASIDE,
UNDERSTANDING
SOME
FALL
% FARMS
WILL
HAVE TO
GO
AWAY?
% >>
THAT'S AN
INTERESTING% QUESTION.
% WHETHER
IT'S
FARMING O
R
ANY
% OTHER SMALL
BUSINESS,
THERE'S
NO
% GUARANTEED SUCCESS RATE.
% THAT'S UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE
WE DO
% HAVE A
SENTIMENTAL
ATTACHMENT TO
% SMALL FAMILY FARMS.
% IT'S JUST
THAT
THE ECONOMY
OF
% SCALE
IN
AGRICULTURE AND
THE
% ECONOMICS
OF
FARMING
HAS
BECOME
% SO
TIGHT
IN
RECENT
YEARS
THAT
% IT'S VERY DIFFICULT
TO
MAKE
% FARMING ON
SMALL
HERDS
OR
SMALL
% ACREAGE
THERE
UNLESS
YOU
ARE A
% HIGH-VALUE
TYPE
OF
CROP.
% AND
MANY
YOUNG
FARMERS
ARE
% BEGINNING IN
HIGH-VALUE
TYPE
% CROPS.
% LAST WEEK I
WAS
IN
MICHIGAN.
% THREE-ACRE
CUT
FLOWER OPERATION.% THERE
ARE
WAYS
TO
GROW.
% WE'RE ALSO
SEEING A
LOT
OF
% EFFORT
IN
THE
DIRECT
FARM
TO
% TABLE
MOVEMENT IN
THE
HIGH
VALUE
% OF
SPECIALTY
CROPS
THAT
YOUNG
% BEGINNING FARMERS
ARE
ACTIVE
IN.
% BUT
THE
COMMERCIAL IDEA OF
% GETTING
OUT HERE
AND
HAVING THE
% FINANCES
TO
BUY
1,000
ACRES
AND
% DO
COMMERCIAL
SCALE
FARMING
IS
% DIFFICULT THESE
DAYS.% >>
U.S. SECRETARY
OF
AGRICULTURE% SONNY PERDUE.
% FOR
REACTION
TO
HIS
REMARKS AS
% WELL AS
HIS
OWN
APPROACH
TO
% SUSTAIN WISCONSIN
FARMS,
WE
TURN
% NOW
TO
STATE SECRETARY
OF
% AGRICULTURE
DESIGNEE,
% PUBLIC-PRIVATE.
% THANKS
!
-- BRAD
PFAFF.
THANKS
FOR
BEING
HERE.
% >> THANK YOU
FOR
HAVING
ME.
% >>
SECRETARY
PERDUE
CAUSED
SOME
% CONSTERNATION THIS
WEEK
BY
% SAYING
FARMERS MAY
HAVE TO
GET
% BIGGER
TO
SURVIVE.
% HOW TRUE
IS
THAT?
% >>
WELL,
WE'VE
ALL
HAD
% ECONOMICS.
% WE
UNDERSTAND WHAT
ECONOMY
OF
% SCALES MEAN.
% BUT
WE
ALSO
UNDERSTAND WHAT WE
% HAVE HERE IN WISCONSIN.%WE H
AVE
THE
WISCONSIN WAY.
% OUR
FARMS
ARE
NOT
NENG
!
NEW
ENGLAND OR
% CALIFORNIA.%OUR
FARMS
ARE
CREATED HERE IN
% WISCONSIN.
% THEY'RE
O
F
ALL
SIZES, SHAPES
AND
% SCALES, TO
BE
HONEST WITH
YOU.
% WE ALSO
HAVE A
SYSTEM
OF
% AGRICULTURE IN
THIS
STATE
HAYES
THAT
% IS
BUILT
UPON
DIFFERENTIATION OF
% PRODUCT,
VALUE-ADDED.
% WE CAN
TAKE
THE
MILK THAT IS
% PRODUCED IN
THE
COUNTRYSIDE HERE% AND MAKE
IT
INTO
HIGH-QUALITY
% CHEESES THAT ARE
ENJOYED AROUND% THE WORLD.
% THAT
PROVIDES
VALUE
ALONG
THE
% SUPPLY CHAIN.
% IT
ALSO
EMPLOYS
PEOPLE NOT
JUST% ON THE
FARM,
BUT
ALSO
WITHIN
OUR
% SMALL
TOWNS
AND
YOU'RE
!
AND
OUR
RURAL
% COMMUNITIES.
% ANYTIME
SOMEBODY SAYS
GET
BIG
OR
% GET
OUT,
THAT
DOESN'T SIT
WELL
% WITH
OUR
FAMILY
FARMERS.
% WE
NEED
TO
BETTER
UNDERSTAND% WHAT IS
HAPPENING WITHIN
THE
% COUNTRYSIDE.
% AND
SO THERE IS
PRESSURE ON
THE
% COUNTRYSIDE.
% WE ALL
RECOGNIZE
THAT.
% BUT RATHER THAN
SAYING
YOU
% EITHER
HAVE TO
GET
BIG
OR
GET
% OUT, I
THINK WE NEED
TO
LOOK
AT% NEW
WAYS
IN
WHICH WE CAN
MAKE
% SURE
THAT WE
CAN
CONTINUE TO
% KEEP
OUR
FARMS
PROFITABLE
GOING
% FORWARD REGARDLESS OF
THEIR
SIZE
% OR
SCALE.% >>
SPEAKING
OF
GLOBAL
MARKETS,
% HOW
BADLY
HAVE
TRADE
POLICIES
% AFFECTED WISCONSIN
FARMERS?
% >>
THEY
DEFINITELY
HAVE.
% OUR
FARMERS HAVE BEEN HIT
WITH A
% TRIPLE
WHAMMY.
% WE'VE
HAD
DIFFICULT
WEATHER,
% FIVE
YEARS
OF
LOW
PRICES
AND
% INTERNATIONAL
TRADE
UNCERTAINTY.
% EVERYBODY'SBEING IMPACTED
IN
THE
% RURAL
COMMUNITIES
WHEN
WE DO
NOT
% HAVE
MARKETS THAT
ARE
OPEN.
% CHINA IS
THE
SECOND
LARGEST
% MARKET
FOR
WISCONSIN A
GRICULTURE% PRODUCTS.%WE
NEED
TO FIND
MORE
MARKETS.
% I AM
HAPPY
TO
SAY
IN
2018
% WISCONSIN AGRICULTURE PRODUCTS%
WERE
SHIPPED
TO
AND
ENJOYED
BY
% CONSUMERS IN
OVER
200
COUNTRIES.
% BUT WE
NEED
TO
RECOGNIZE WHAT
% HAPPENS
WHEN
ONE OF
THE
LARGEST
% TRADING
PARTNERS ALL
OF A
SUDDEN
% THEIR MARKET
SAYS
NO
MORE,
WE
% DON'T
WANT
YOUR
PRODUCT, WHAT
% ARE WE
GOING
TO
DO.
% AND
THAT
HAS
HAD A
DAMPENING
% EFFECT ON
OUR
FARMERS
AND
% RESIDENTS.%>>
LET'S
TAKE
ANOTHER
LISTEN
TO
% SECRETARY
PERDUE ON
THIS
MATTER.% >>
PRESIDENT
TRUMP HAS
BEEN
VERY
% GENEROUS
LAST
YEAR
AND
THIS
YEAR
% WITH
$12
BILLION
AND
$16
BILLION
% TRYING
TO
TIDE
US
THROUGH
THESE
% TRADE
DISRUPTIONS.
% BUT
LET'S
NOT
COUNT ON
THAT.
% EVERY
FARMER
WOULD
RATHER
HAVE A
% GOOD
CROP
AT A
GOOD
PRICE
THAN A
% GOVERNMENT CHECK
AND
LET'S
PLAN
% ON
THAT.
% IT MAY
BE A
TIME
WHERE
WE
DON'T
% HAVE
THE
OPTIMUM
PROFITABILITY
%
WE WOULD
LIKE.
% WE
HAVE
TO
SETTLE
FOR
JUST
ABLE
% TO DO
IT
NEXT
YEAR.
% PLAN
FOR
THE
MARKET
JUST
LIKE
% THEY
ALWAYS
HAVE
AND
IF
NOTHING
% HAPPENS IN
TRADE,
MAYBE WE CAN
% SEE SOME HELP
IN
THE
FUTURE AS
% WELL.%>>
WHAT CAN YOU
TELL
US
ABOUT
% THE
BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS
OF
% DIRECT
AID
AND
HOW THEY HAVE
% REACHED AND
HELPED
WISCONSIN
% FARMERS?
% >>
WELL,
FIRST OF
ALL,
THE
% FEDERAL
TAXPAYERS
HAVE
PROVIDED
% $28 BILLION
WORTH
OF
TRADE
% ASSISTANCE
TO
OUR
FAMILY
% FARMERS.
% THERE'S
NOT A
FARMER THAT
I
KNOW
% THAT
WOULD
NOT
RATHER
SELL
THEIR
% PRODUCT
THAN
RECEIVE
GOVERNMENT
% AID.
% NOW, WE
APPRECIATE THE
% ASSISTANCE THAT
THE
FEDERAL
% TAXPAYERS
HAVE
PROVIDED, BUT
% THESE FARMERS
DID
NOT
ASK FOR
% THIS.
% FARMERS
WANT TO B
E
ABLE
TO
SELL
% THEIR
PRODUCT.
% WE
UNDERSTAND
THAT
THERE'S
% GLOBAL
ECONOMIC PRESSURES
TAKING
% PLACE.
% WE RECOGNIZE THE
FACT
THAT WE
% NEED TO
HAVE A
PARTNERSHIP
AND A
% TRADING
RELATIONSHIP
WITH
% COUNTRIES THAT
IS
FAIR
AND
BALD.
% --
BALANCED.
% CHINA HAS
NOT
BEEN
FAIR
WITH% WHAT
IS HAPPENING HERE.
% BUT
WHY?
% AND
I
STILL
ASK
THIS
QUESTION.
% I HAVEN'T
GOT AN
ANSWER.
% WE
UNDERSTAND THE
FACT
THAT
% CHINA
AND
TECHNOLOGY AND
THEY'VE
% BEEN
TAKING
AMERICAN
TECHNOLOGY% AND
THEY
NEED TO
BE
HELD
% RESPONSIBLE FOR
THAT.
% BUT
WHY
ARE
OUR
FAMILY
FARMERS
% IN
WISCONSIN
BEING
HELD
% RESPONSIBLE FOR
THAT?
% LET'S
ADDRESS
THE
ISSUE
THAT'S
% TAKING
PLACE
WITH
CHINA.
% AND
I
WILL
ALSO
SAY
THIS.
% WHY
IS
AMERICA DOING
THIS
ALONE?
% LET'S DO
IT
WITH
OUR
PARTNERS,
% MAY THEY BE
IN
EUROPE
OR
% ELSEWHERE IN
THE
COUNTRY,
% BECAUSE WHAT'S
HAPPENING IS
% CHINA
IS
STILL
BUYING
% AGRICULTURE PRODUCTS.
% THEY'RE JUST
BUYING
IT
FROM
% OTHER
COUNTRIES.
% AND
SO WE
NEED
TO
ADDRESS
THE
% CHINA
SITUATION.
% BUT
THE
THING
IS
RIGHT
NOW
% THE
AMERICAN FARMERS AND
THE
% WISCONSIN
FARMERS
ARE
PAYING
THE
% PRICE FOR
THIS.% >>
HOW
FAR
DOWN
DID
THOSE
% BILLIONS
OF
DOLLARS GO TO THE
% REACH
OF
MAYBE
SMALL
FARMERS
IN
% WISCONSIN?
% >>
WELL,
IT HAS BEEN
BASED
UPON
% YOUR PRODUCTION
HISTORY.
% SO
AGAIN
IT'S
BASED
UPON HOW
% MUCH
CORN
OTHER
SOYBEANS YOU
% GROW
OR HOW
MUCH
MILK
YOU
% PRODUCE.
% AGAIN, IT IS
CAPPED
AT A
LEVEL.
% SO
IF
YOU'RE A
VERY LARGE
FARM,
% YOU
WILL
ONLY
RECEIVE A CERTAIN
% AMOUNT OF MONEY.
% BUT
THE
REST OF THE
--
IF
YOU'RE% A
SMALLER SCALE
FARM, IT
WILL
BE
% BASED
UPON
YOUR
PRODUCTION
% HISTORY.
% AND
SO,
AGAIN,
THE
ASSISTANCE IS
% APPRECIATED, BUT,
AGAIN,
MUCH
% RATHER SELL TO
THE
MARKETPLACE.% >>
CAN
WISCONSIN
RECOVER
FROM
% LOST GLOBAL
MARKETS?
% >> WE
CAN,
AND
WE
WILL
CONTINUE
% TO
FIND
NEW
MARKETS.% THIS
IS A
GROWING
WORLD,
AND
% IT'S A
PROTEIN-HUNGRY
WORLD.
% PEOPLE
WANT A
PROTEIN
DIET.
% WE
ARE A
PROCEED-RICH
!
PROTEIN-RICH STATE.
% WE HAVE
TO
BUILD
UPON
THE
% SUCCESSES THAT WE
HAVE.
% WE NEED
TO
IMPROVE
OUR
% LOGISTICS.
% WE NEED
TO
IMPROVE OUR
SUPPLY
% CHAIN.
% WE
NEED
TO
CONTINUE
TO
INVEST
IN
% OUR FARMERS
BUT
ALSO
WITHIN
OUR
% PROCESSORS AND
THE
ENTIRE
SUPPLY
% CHAIN TO BE
ABLE
TO
CONTINUE TO
% FEED THE
WORLD.% >> THERE
IS
SOME
GOOD
NEWS.
% IT
APPEARS
THAT
MILK
PRICES
SEEM% TO
BE
IN
RECOVERY.
% IF
FARMS AROUND
THE
PRECIPICE
OF
% GOING
UNDER,
WILL
THIS
HELP
% THEM?%>> IT WILL.
% BUT WE
NEED
TO
MAKE
SURE
WE
% BUILD
FOR
THE
FUTURE.
% WE
WANT A
WISCONSIN
AGRICULTURE% THAT
IS
SUSTAINABLE.
% THERE'S
THREE
IMPORTANT TEN
!
TENETS.
% IT
HAS TO
BE
CONSERVATION
% SUSTAINABLE.
% WE
NEED
TO
BUILD
UPON
THE
% TRADITION THAT'S
SUSTAINABLE.
% AGRICULTURE IS WHO WE ARE.
% IT'S
ON
OUR
LICENSE
PLATES.
% WE'RE
AMERICA'S
DAIRYLAND.
% IT'S WHAT
BRINGS
US
TOGETHER.% >>
BRAD
PFAFF, THANK
YOU
VERY
% MUCH.%>> THANK YOU.
% >> NOW
TO
THE
2020
RACE
FOR
% PRESIDENT AND
WISCONSIN'S
ROLE.
% IN
TONIGHT'S INSIDE
LOOK,
WE
GOT% A
CHANCES T
O
CATCH
UP
WITH
538
% SENIOR
POLITICAL
WRITER CLARE% MALONE.
% MALONE
SERVED
AS
THE
FALL
2019
% PUBLIC
AFFAIRS
JOURNALIST
IN
%
RESIDENCE
AT
UW-MADISON.
% SHE
TALKS
ABOUT
ELECTABILITY AND
% IDENTITY
POLITICS.
% IN
OUR
DISCUSSION, WE
STARTED
BY
% ASKING
ABOUT
THOSE
TERMS
AND
HOW
% THEY FACTOR IN
THE
RACE
FOR
% PRESIDENT HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
% >>
WHEN
WE'RE
TALKING
ABOUT
% IDENTITY
POLITICS,
WE'RE
TALKING
% ABOUT
HOW
WHITE
PEOPLE
AND
BLACK
% PEOPLE AND
WOMEN
AND
MEN
SEE
THE
% SAME
ISSUE
IN
VERY
DIFFERENT
% WAYS.
% AND
I
THINK
IDENTITY
POLITICS
% CAN
SOMETIMES
GET
THROWN
AROUND
% AS A BAD TERM.
% BUT
I
DO
ACTUALLY
--
OR A
TERM
% THAT'S MEANT
TO
BE
DE!
!
DERISIVE.
% BUT IT'S IMPORTANT
TO
UNDERSTAND
% BECAUSE WE ARE
REACTING
TO
% ISSUES
EMOTIONALLY.
% THAT'S
THE
WAY
HUMAN
BEINGS% INTERACT WITH THE
WORLD.% >>
HOW
DOES
IDENTITY
POLITICS
% FACTOR INTO
WISCONSIN
WITH
ITS
% OBAMA/TRUMP
VOTERS?
% >>
WISCONSIN
IS AN
IMPORTANT
% STATE.
% IT
HAS
DEMOCRATIC VOTERS
WHO
% VOTED
FOR
OBAMA
AND
SWITCHED
% OVER
TO
TRUMP.
% THE INTERESTING
THING
ABOUT
% WISCONSIN IS
THAT
WE'RE TALKING
% ABOUT THE
IDENTITY
POLITICS OF
% WHITE PEOPLE.
% SO
THOSE
OBAMA/TRUMP VOTERS
% TENDED TO B
E
WHITE
PEOPLE
% WITHOUT A
COLLEGE
EDUCATION
WHO
% HAD
VOTED
FOR
DEMOCRATS
FOR A
% REALLY
LONG
TIME
AND
SOMETHING
% KIND OF
CHANGED
IN
THEIR
PARTY
% AFFILIATION DURING
THE
OBAMA
% YEARS,
DURING A TIME
WHEN,
YES,
% WE
HAD A
BLACK
PRESIDENT.
% I THINK
ISSUES
ABOUT
RACE
WERE
% TALKED
ABOUT A
LITTLE
MORE
% FRANKLY
AND A
LITTLE
MORE
OUT
IN% THE
OPEN.
% AND
I
DO
THINK
THAT
SOME
PEOPLE,
% YOU'LL
HEAR
PEOPLE
TALK
ABOUT
PC
% CULTURE, RIGHT?
% I
THINK
SOME
WAYS
THAT'S A
% REFERENCE TO
THE
MORE
OPEN
% CONVERSATION PEOPLE WERE
HAVING
% ABOUT RACE AND
SOME
OF
THOSE
% VOTERS
SAW
THAT
AS,
YOU
KNOW,
% YOU
COULD SAY
--
YOU
CAN
CALL
IT
% RACISM OR
YOU
CAN
SAY
IT'S A
% REACTION TO
WHAT
THEY
SAY
IS A
% BAD FOCUS FOR
THE
DEMOCRATIC% PARTY.
% THE
DEMOCRATIC
PARTY
SHOULD
ONLY
% BE
FOCUSED
ON
ECONOMIC
ISSUES,
% NOT
ISSUES OF
RACE.
% THOSE PEOPLE
ENDED
UP
VOTING
FOR% DONALD
TRUMP.
% YOU NO,
!
THERE'S A
LOT
OF
REASONS PEOPLE
% VOTED
FOR DONALD
TRUMP,
BUT
W
E
% DO SEE
IN
THE
NUMBERS THAT THERE
% WAS A
REAL
!
REALLY
BIG
SHIFT
OF
WHITE
% NONCOLLEGE
EDUCATED PEOPLE
% SWITCHING OVER TO
THE
REPUBLICAN
% SIDE OF
THINGS.
% AND
YOU
CAN'T
HELP
BUT
THINK
% THAT
THE
FIRST
BLACK
PRESIDENT
% HAD SOMETHING TO
DO
WITH
THAT.% >>
HOW
WILL
THOSE
VOTES
BE
WON
% OVER
IN
THIS
NEXT
ELECTION?
% >>
W
ELL,
I
THINK A
LOT
O
F
PEOPLE
% ON JOE
BIDDEN'S
TEAM
WOULD
TELL
% YOU
THAT
JOE
BIDEN
IS THE
% LEADING
CANDIDATE
WITH
BLACK
% VOTERS AND THEY WOULD
SAY
THAT
% JOE
BIDEN
FOR
THOSE
OBAMA/TRUMP
% VOTERS WHO KEE
P
ON
ASKING OR
% SAYING WE
WANT
THE
DEMOCRATIC
% PARTY OF
OLD,
WE
WANT
TO
FOCUS
% ON ECONOMIC
ISSUES,
THEY
MIGHT
% FIND JOE
BIDEN TO
BE,
A,
MORE
OF% A MODERATE
PERSON,
BUT,
B,
HE
% ALSO
KIND
OF
LOOKS
HOW
WE
THINK
% PRESIDENTS HAVE
TYPICALLY
% LOOKED, RIGHT?
% HE'S AN
OLDER
WHITE
MAN.
% AND
I
THINK
THAT THERE
IS
% SOMETHING
COMFORTING IN
BIDEN'S
% IDENTITY
TO
MAYBE
THOSE
% OBAMA/TRUMP
VOTERS,
WHITE,
% NONCOLLEGE
EDUCATED
VOTERS
IN
% WISCONSIN,
OHIO,
PENNSYLVANIA
% AND
MICHIGAN.
% SO
THE
OTHER
CANDIDATES,
I
THINK
% YOU'LL
SEE
PEOPLE
MAKE
ATTACKS
% ON
WARREN
O
R
HARRIS
OR
EVEN
% SANDERS
FOR
BEING
TOO
LIBERAL,
% FOR ONE
THING,
AND
ALSO
BEING,
% YOU
KNOW,
IN
THE
CASE OF THE
% WOMEN,
REMINDERS
OF HILLARY
% CLINTON
AND
THE
2016
CAMPAIGN.% >>
SO
IS
ALL OF
THAT
AROUND
% ELECTABILITY?
% >> YES.
% I
MEAN,
I
THINK
THAT THERE
IS
--
% ELECTABILITY IS
SUCH A
FREIGHTED
% TERM THESE
DAYS.
% WHAT
IT
HAS
COME
TO
MEAN
IN
THIS
% CURRENT
ELECTION
CYCLE
IS
IT'S
% BECOME A
SHORTHAND
FOR
WHO
CAN
% WIN
THOSE
OBAMA/TRUMP VOTERS% BACK
IN
THE
ELECTORALLY KEY
% STATES OF
WISCONSIN, FOR
% INSTANCE.%AND I THINK IT
IS AN
UNDENIABLE
% FACT
THAT
THOSE
WISCONSIN
SWING
% VOTERS
OF A
CERTAIN
PERSUASION% MIGHT BE
MORE
INCLINED
TO
LIKE
% JOE
BIDEN
AND
HIS
IDENTITY AND
% HIS
MORE
MODERATE
POLICIES.
% BECAUSE
ONCE
YOU
GET
INTO
THE
% ZONE OF
TALKING
ABOUT
SAY
BERNIE
% SANDERS'
AND ELIZABETH
WARREN'S% HEALTH CARE
PLANS,
EVEN A
LOT
OF
% DEMOCRATS DON'T
LOVE
THE
IDEA
OF
% MEDICARE FOR
ALL
AND
THEY MIGHT
% BE
MORE
COMFORTABLE
WITH
BIDEN'S
% PLAN,
WHICH
IS
MEDICARE
FOR
SOME
% OR A PUBLIC OPTION.
% SO I
THINK
YOU
START TO GET
INTO
% REALLY
INTERESTING
INTERSECTING
% ISSUES
OF
IDENTITY
POLITICS
BUT
% ALSO
JUST
THE
DEMOCRATIC
PARTY
% IS
IN AN
IDEOLOGICAL
FLUX.% >>
IN
TERMS OF
THE
ELECTABILITY
% WORD, IS IT KIND
OF
FAIR
OR
% RIGHT
TO
DECIDE
WHO
TO
SUPPORT
% BASED
ON
ELECTABILITY?% >>
WELL,
I
THINK
THAT A
LOT
OF
% DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS
ARE
DOING
IT.
% THIS
IS A FIRST
--
AND
TO A
% CERTAIN
EXTENT,
YES.
% IT'S A
RATIONAL
REACTION
TO THE
% REALITIES OF THE
WORLD,
RIGHT?
% I
THINK
DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS, THIS% IS
THE FIRST TIME IN
QUITE
SOME
% TIME
THAT
DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS
HAVE
% TOLD
POLLSTERS
I
WOULD
VOTE
FOR
% SOMEONE WHO
I
THINK
HAS
THE
BEST
% CHANCE
TO
WIN
EVEN
IF I
DON'T
% REALLY AGREE WITH HIM
THE
MOST% OUT OF
ANY OF THE
CANDIDATES
IN
% THE FIELD.
% AND I
THINK
THAT
THAT'S A
% STRATEGIC WAY
OF
THINKING
ABOUT
% THE
ELECTION,
RIGHT?
% IT'S A STRATEGIC
WAY
OF
% UNDERSTANDING THAT WE
ARE A
% COUNTRY
THAT
ELECTS
ITS
% PRESIDENTS
NOT
B
Y
POPULAR
VOTE,
% BUT
BY
ELECTORAL COLLEGE
VOTE.
% AND CERTAIN
STATES
HAVE
MORE
% POWER
IN
THAT
PROCESS.
% CERTAIN STATES
LIKE,
AGAIN,
% WISCONSIN,
OHIO,
PENNSYLVANIA,
% THAT
HAVE
SPECIFIC
POPULATION,
% THE
DEMOGRAPHICS
IN
THEIR
% POPULATION, RIGHT?
% THEY
TEND TO
BE
WHITER,
% PARTICULARLY
WISCONSIN, FOR
% EXAMPLE.
% SO
PEOPLE ARE
KIND
OF
BOWING
TO% THE
REALITIES
OF,
OKAY, THIS
IS
% WHO'S
DECIDING
THE
ELECTION.
% MAYBE WE SHOULD
CHOOSE A
% CANDIDATE THAT
WILL
APPEAL
TO
% THEM.
%
THEN
I
THINK YOU
HAVE
THE
OTHER
% SIDE OF
THE
ELECTABILITY
THING,
% WHICH
IS
SHOULD
WE
BE
% PERPETUATING THESE
KIND
OF
I
% THINK
MOST
PEOPLE
WOULD
AGREE
% THAT
RACISM
AND
SEXISM ARE
BAD
% THINGS IN
THE
WORLD.
% AND
SO
THE
IDEA
OF
SHOULD
WE
BE
% PERPETUATING
THOSE
STANDARDS
% THAT
ONLY
CERTAIN
CANDIDATES% SHOULD BE THE
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
OUR
% CANDIDATE BECAUSE THEY ARE
MORE
% APPEALING TO
RACIST
OR
SEXIST
% PEOPLE.
% THAT'S A
REALLY
HARD
% CONVERSATION TO HAVE.%AND
I
THINK
DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS
DO
% KIND OF
FIND
THEMSELVES
IN A
% MORAL
BIND,
WHICH
IS
ONE OF
THE
% REASONS WHY I
THINK
YOU
SEE
% PEOPLE
WHO
DON'T
LIKE
JOE
BIDEN% WHO
ARE
DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS
REALLY
% DON'T
LIKE
JOE
BIDEN
IN
PART
% BECAUSE
WHAT
THEY
THINK
HE
% REPRESENTS
ABOUT
ELECTABILITY,
% BECAUSE
THEY
THINK
PERHAPS
HE'S% A
CONCESSION
TO
TRUMP
VOTERS,
% MOB
LIBERAL
DEMOCRATIC
VOTERS,
% MIGHT
SEE
AS
HAVING
ENABLED A
% RACIST OR
SEXIST
PRESIDENT.% >>
WE
NEED
TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
% CLARE
MALONE, THANKS VERY
MUCH.% >>
THANKS
FOR
HAVING
ME.
% >>
MALONE
HAS A
STORY
UP
ON
% 538.com
TITLED
"THE
% FRONT-RUNNER
QUESTION
MARK"
% ABOUT JOE
BIDEN
AND
HIS
STRENGTH
% WITH
BLACK
VOTERS.
% NOW
FOR AN
UPDATE ON
THE
7TH
% CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
SPECIAL
% ELECTION.
% >>
THE
PREVIOUSLY-ANNOUNCED% DATES
FOR
THAT
ELECTION
IN
THE
% DISTRICT
IN
THE
NORTHWESTERN% PART
OF
WISCONSIN MUST BE
% CHANGED BECAUSE
FEDERAL
LAW
% REQUIRES
45
DAYS
BETWEEN
THE
% PRIMARY
AND
GENERAL
TO
ALLOW
FOR
% ABSENTEE
VOTES.
% U.S.
REPRESENTATIVE SEAN DUFFY
% HELD
THE 7TH UNTIL HE
RESIGNED
% IN
SEPTEMBER DUE
TO A
FAMILY
% MATTER.
% THREE
REPUBLICAN
CANDIDATES
ARE
% NOW
VYING
FOR
THE
OPEN
SEAT:
% STATE
SENATOR TOM
TIFFANY,
ARMY
% VETERAN AND
FORMER
POLITICAL
AID
% JASON
CHURCH
AND
HOBBY
FARMER% MICHAEL
OPELA
ARE
RUNNING
FOR
% THE
SEAT.% >>
AS
OF
TODAY
NEW
ELECTION
% DATES
HAVE
NOT
BEEN
RELEASED.
% NEXT
WEEK, ZAC SCHULTZ REPORTS
% ON
ONE
MILWAUKEE
FAMILY'S
LONG
% AND
ONGOING
RECOVERY
FROM AN
ACT
% OF GUN
VIOLENCE.
% HERE'S A
PREVIEW
OF THAT
STORY.
% >>
WELL,
TYRESE
STRUGGLED
IN
% REHAB,
HIS
MOTHER
STRUGGLED
AT
% HOME
WHILE
VISITING
TYRESE
AND
% TRYING
TO
KEEP
HER
JOB.% >>
THAT'S WHAT
KEEP M
E
STRONG,
% LIKE
THE
KIDS.
% HE
AIN'T
GOING
NOWHERE.
% ALL
THE
BAD
NEWS
AND GOOD
NEWS,
% I'M
LIKE
I
CRY
HAPPY
TEARS,
SAD
% TEARS.%>>
SHE
MOVED OUT
OF
HER
% APARTMENT
FEARING MORE
VIOLENCE
% AND
ENDING UP
HOMELESS.% >>
NOW,
HIS
TEACHER
IS
HOPING
% THE COMMUNITY
STEPS UP
TO
HELP
% THEM.%>> THERE
WAS A
FUND-RAISER.% >>
WHAT
I
NOTICE
IN
OUR
% COMMUNITY IS
WHEN
WE
RAISE SO
% MANY MONEY
FOR
THE
FUNERAL,
BUT
% THEN
WHEN
THE
CHILDREN
DO
% SURVIVE, THEY
ARE
BY
THEMSELF.% >>
TYRESE SPENT
MOST
O
F
HIS
% REHAB AN HOUR
AWAY
FROM
% MILWAUKEE, SO
HIS
MOTHER COULD
% ONLY
SEE
HIM
ONCE A
WEEK
OR
WHEN
% HE HAD
APPOINTMENTS
IN
THE
CITY.
% >>
STRANGERS
WHO
HEARD
HIS
STORY
% OFFERED
THEIR
PRAYERS.% >>
WE THANK
YOU
FOR
BRINGING
% TYRESE
FROM A
MIGHTY,
MIGHTY
% LONG
WAYS.% >>
LET'S
PRAY
THAT
THEY
SURVIVE.
% AND
THEN
WHEN
THEY
DO
SURVIVE,
% THEY'RE
LEFT
BY
THEMSELVES.
% >>
YOU
CAN
SEE
ZAC'S
STORY
IN
% ITS
ENTIRETY ON
NEXT
FRIDAY'S
% PROGRAM.
% THAT'S OUR
PROGRAM FOR
TONIGHT.
% I'M FREDERICA
F
REYBERG.
% HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISC