%
>>
THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A% PBS W
ISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
% PRODUCTION.
% >>
I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW," A% FIRST
LOOK
AT A
STUDY
THAT
% REVEALS
ECONOMIC RISKS
CONNECTED
% TO
THE
FOXCONN
PROJECT
IN MOUNT% PLEASANT.
% A
CLOSER
LOOK
AT
EFFORTS
TO
% BOOST
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% LEADERSHIP IN MILWAUKEE.
% AND
POLITICAL
PANELISTS
MCCOSHEN
% AND
ROSS
THRIFER
SOME
POLITICAL
% THANKSGIVING.
% IT'S "HERE AND
NOW"
FOR
% NOVEMBER 27.%>>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
% >>
THE
MULTIBILLION
DOLLAR
% INCENTIVE PACKAGE WISCONSIN GAVE
% FOXCONN WAS MORE
THAN A
BAD
% DEAL.
% IT
COULD
DEPRESS
STATE
ECONOMIC
% ACTIVITY BY
TENS
OF
BILLIONS
OF
% DOLLARS OVER THE
NEXT
15
YEARS.
% THAT'S
ACCORDING
TO A
NEW
% SPECIAL
STUDY
BY
ECONOMISTS
AT% GEORGE MASON
UNIVERSITY
IN% VIRGINIA.
% IN
TONIGHT'S FIRST
LOOK,
WE
TALK
% WITH
ONE OF THE
AUTHORS.
% MICHAEL
FARREN
IS A
RESEARCH
% FELLOW
AT GEORGE MASON.
% HE JOINS
US
FROM
ASHEVILLE
AND
% THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.% >>
THANKS SO MUCH
FOR
HAVING
ME.% >>
WHY DID
YOU
RESEARCH
% WISCONSIN'S
$3.6
BILLION
PLUS
% SUBSIDY TO
FOXCONN
IN
% PARTICULAR?%>> SO WE
WERE
DOING AN
ANALYSIS,
% ASKING
THE
QUESTION
DO
ECONOMIC
% DEVELOPMENT
SUBSIDIES
ACTUALLY
% WORK,
CREATE
ECONOMIC GROWTH
AT
% THE LOCAL
AND
NATIONAL
LEVEL.
% WE
DECIDED TO
USE
FOXCONN
AS A
% CASE
STUDY
BECAUSE IT WAS
IN
THE
% NEWS AND THERE
WAS A
LOT
O
F
% INFORMATION ALREADY AVAILABLE
% ABOUT
IT.
% >>
YOUR
PREMISE
AND
CONCLUSION,
% AGAIN, IS
THAT
SUCH
TARGETED
% SUBSIDIES,
ESPECIALLY
GIGANTIC
%
ONES
LIKE
FOXCONN'S,
DO
MORE
% HARM THAN GOOD.
% IN
FACT,
YOU
SAY
THE
SUBSIDY
MAY
% DEPRESS
STATE
ECONOMIC ACTIVITY% BY
TENS
OF
BILLIONS
OF
DOLLARS% OVER
THE
NEXT
15
!
10
TO
15
YEARS.
% HOW
SO?
% >>
MOST
STUDIES
THAT
EXAMINE
% THESE
SUBSIDIES NEVER
COUNT
THE
% COST.
% SO YOU
HAVE
TO
UNDERSTAND
FOR
% EVERY
DOLLAR
YOU
PAY
IN
SUBSIDY,% YOU
HAVE
TO TAKE
THAT
AWAY
FROM
% TAXPAYERS
AND
THAT
HAS A
% NEGATIVE
ECONOMIC IMPACT.
% THE
$3.6
BILLION
OFFERED
TO
FOX
% COX
WOULD
INCREASE
ECONOMIC
% GROWTH
IN
THE
STATE.% >>
YOU
ALSO TALKED
ABOUT
THE
% MULTIPLIER
EFFECT
OF
SPIN-OFF
% JOBS RELATED
TO
FOXCONN.
% WHY
IN
YOUR
RESEARCH DOESN'T% THAT ADD
UP?
% >>
THE
MULTIPLIER
EFFECT
IS
% VALUABLE, BUT MOST OF
THE
TIME
% MULTIPLIERS
TAKE
PLACE
% NATURALLY.
% YOU DON'T
ACTUALLY
NEED
TO
% INCENTIVIZE THEM.
% THAT'S
PART OF
THE
ISSUE
WITH
% ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT
SUBSIDIES
% IN
GENERAL, THAT
THEY
ONLY WORK
% IN
THE
CONTEXT
OF
SWAYING
WHERE% A
COMPANY
DECIDES
TO LOCATE
OR
% ON
EXPAND
BETWEEN
2%
AND
25% OF
% THE TIME.
% THAT
MEANS
ABOUT
75%
OF
% SUBSIDIES OR
MORE
ARE
JUST
PURE
% WASTES
OF
PUBLIC
MONEY.
% >>
YOUR
RESEARCH
DISCUSSES HOW
% ELSE
THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN% MIGHT HAVE
USED
$3.6
BILLION.
% LIKE
HOW?
% >>
SO
ONE
HUMOROUS
EXAMPLE THAT
% WE USED IS
THAT
THE
STATE COULD
% HAVE
I
NSTEAD
SUBSIDIZED
SEVEN
% SQUARE
MILES
OF
GREENHOUSES
TO
% MOVE
FLORIDA ORANGE
GROWERS UP% TO
THE
UPPER MIDWEST.
% THAT
WOULD
ALSO
CREATE
% MULTIPLIERS
AND
WOULD
CREATE AN
% EXPORTABLE
INDUSTRY,
BUT
IT'S
% OBVIOUSLY
NOT A
GOOD
USE
OF
% TAXPAYER MONEY.%>>
YOU
TALKED
ABOUT
HOW
THAT
% $3.6
BILLION MIGHT
HAVE
BEEN
% PLOWED
BACK
INTO
TAX
CUTS.
% WOULD
THAT HAVE
BEEN
MORE
% ECONOMICALLY
BENEFICIAL?
% >>
ABSOLUTELY.
% SO
RIGHT
NOW,
WITH
THE
CURRENT
% CORPORATE INCOME TAX
RATE,
I
F
% THAT
SUBSIDY TO
FOXCONN
HAD
% INSTEAD
GONE
TO
ALL
COMPANIES
% THROUGHOUT THE
STATE,
IT COULD
% HAVE
LOWERED
CORPORATE
INCOME
% TAXES
BY
22%.
% THAT
WOULD
DO A
LOT
MORE
FOR
% BROAD-BASED
ECONOMIC
GROWTH% RATHER THAN
PICKING
ONE
FAVORITE% AND
ROLLING THE
DICE
ON
IT.
% >>
NOW,
YOUR
REPORT
PILES
ON
% WITH THE
IDEA
THAT
SUBSIDIES
% ACTUALLY
REDUCE
COMPETITIVE
% PRACTICES AMONG
COMPANIES
THAT
% RECEIVE
THEM
BECAUSE
BASICALLY% THOSE
COMPANIES ARE
PLAYING
WITH
% SOMEBODY ELSE'S
MONEY?
% >>
ABSOLUTELY.
% SO
SUBSIDIES
ESSENTIALLY
GIVE A
% MONOPOLY ADVANTAGE
TO
THE
% RECEIVER OF THE
SUBSIDY.
% ONE OF THE
SAYINGS ABOUT
THAT
IS
% THE BEST PART
OF
MONOPOLY POWER
% IS
HAVING AN
EASY
LIFE.
% SO
ESSENTIALLY IT
ALLOWS
THE
% COMPANY THAT
RECEIVES
THE
% SUBSIDY TO
BE A
LITTLE
BIT
LESS
% ATTENTIVE
TO
CONSUMER
DESIRES,% TO
BE
LESS
COA
!
FOCUSED
ON
% EFFICIENCIES RATHER THAN
% COMPETITION, WHICH
FORCES
% COMPANIES TO
FOCUS
ON
PLEASING
% COMPANIES
AND
ELIMINATING
WASTE
% FROM
THEIR
PRODUCTION.
% >>
IT
ALMOST
GOES
WITHOUT
SAYING
% THAT YOU
AND
YOUR
FELLOW
% ECONOMISTS ARE
NOT
GOOD
WITH
% THESE
KINDS
OF
TARGETED
% SUBSIDIES,
BUT
YOU
SAY
THAT
% STATES
DON'T
EVEN
NEED
TO
OFFER
% THEM
BECAUSE OTHER
FACTORS
FOR
% WHERE
COMPANIES MIGHT
LOCATE
ARE
% MORE
IMPORTANT,
LIKE
LABOR
% COSTS.
% BUT WOULD
FOXCONN
HAVE
EVER
COM
E
% TO
WISCONSIN
W
ITHOUT
THE
% BILLIONS IN
TARGETED
SUBSIDIES?
% >> SO THAT
IS AN
OPEN QUESTION
% AND NO ONE
CAN
REALLY ANSWER
% THAT.
% THE FACT OF
THE
MATTER
IS
% THAT
MOST
SUBSIDIES
DON'T
MATTER
% AND
EVEN
AMAZON
HQ2,
WHICH
WE
% ALSO
STUDIED
LAST
YEAR,
WAS
--
% ITS
FOCUS
WAS
ON
TECH
TALENT.
% THAT'S THE REASON
WHY
IT
CHOSE
% ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA
AS A
PLACE
% TO
LOCATE.
% THEY
ONLY
ALSO
CHOSE NEW YORK
% CITY BEFORE
PULLING OUT
OF
THAT
% DEAL
LATER
ON
BECAUSE
THEY
% WEREN'T
SURE
THAT
ARLINGTON,
% VIRGINIA
COULD
PROVIDE ENOUGH
% TALENTED
WORKERS
FOR
THEIR
TECH
% INDUSTRY.
% SO
THE END OF THE
DAY,
IT'S
ALL
% ABOUT
P
RODUCTION
AND
ACCESS
TO
% CUSTOMERS.
% SUBSIDIES
ARE A
SECONDARY
OR
% EVEN
TERTIARY CONSIDERATION.
% >> AND
AGAIN
YOU
SAY
THAT,
% QUOTE,
SUBSIDIZING
GOVERNMENTS
% ARE
WASTING
THEIR
MONEY" AND
% PRESUMABLY OUR
MONEY.
% WHAT'S
BEEN
THE
REACTION TO
YOUR
% PAPER,
FROM
POLICYMAKERS OR
% OTHER
ECONOMISTS,
WHO
TOUT
SUCH
% SUBSIDIES?
% >> SO
GENERALLY
THE
RECEPTION% HAS BEEN
VERY
GOOD.
% AND
WE'RE
ONLY
SAYING SOMETHING
% THAT
ECONOMISTS HAVE BEEN
SAYING
% FOR A VERY LONG
TIME.
% WE'RE
JUST
TRYING
TO
GET
THE
% MESSAGE OUT
INTO
THE
BROADER
% PUBLIC
UNDERSTANDING A
LITTLE
% BIT
MORE.
% AND
IT'S
VERY
WELL-UNDERSTOOD
% THAT A
LOT
OF
POLICYMAKERS
WOULD% GET
AWAY
FROM
OFFERING
THESE
% SUBSIDIES IF
OTHER
POLICYMAKERS
% ALSO PROMISED TO DO SO.
% WE
WASTE
ABOUT
$45
BILLION A
% YEAR IN
STATE
AND
CITY
TAXES
ON
% THESE SUBSIDIES
THAT COULD BE
% REPURPOSED TO
TAX
CUTS,
TO
GROW
% THE
ECONOMY
OR
OTHER
VALUABLE
% PUBLIC SERVICES.
% THAT WOULD BE
DEFINITELY% SOMETHING THAT
WOULD
GROW
THE
% ECONOMY RATHER
THAN SHRINK
IT.
% >> ALL
RIGHT.
% WE
NEED
TO
LEAVE IT
THERE.
% MICHAEL
FARREN,
THANKS VERY
MUCH
% FOR
JOINING
US.% >> THANK
YOU.% >>
IN
THE
MIDST
OF A
BUSY
THANKS
% GIVING
HOLIDAY
TRAVEL
SEASON,
% ANOTHER
THREAT ON THE
ROADWAYS:
% DISTRACTED
DRIVING.
% LAST
YEAR,
WISCONSIN
SAW
60
% FATAL CAR
ACCIDENTS AS A
RESULT.
% IN
TONIGHT'S
CLOSER
LOOK, A
NEW
% BILL IN
THE
STATE
LEGISLATURE
% AIMS
TO
TARGET
ONE COMMON
FORM
% OF
DISTRACTION: THE
USE
OF
% SMART PHONES.
% MARISA WOJCIK REPORTS
FROM
% HUDSON.
% >>
I
THOUGHT
I
COULD DO
IT% SAFELY.%I DID
IT
FOR
15
YEARS
WITHOUT AN
% INCIDENT.
% AND I
WAS
PRETTY DARN
GOOD
AT
% IT.
% AND I
THOUGHT,
WELL,
I'M A
% SAFETY CONSULTANT.
% I SHOULD BE
GOOD
AT
THIS.% >>
FOR
YEARS, TOO MANY GOELTZ
!
TOM
GOELTZ
OF
% HUDSON
DIDN'T
SEE
USING
HIS
% PHONE WHILE
DRIVING
AS A BIG
% DEAL.%>> MOST
OF
IT
WAS
OKAY.
% >>
EVEN
WITH
30
YEARS
EXPERIENCE
% IN OCCUPATIONAL
SAFETY,
HE
% DIDN'T THINK THERE
WAS A
% SIGNIFICANT DANGER
OF
SOMETHING
% HAPPENING WHILE HE
WAS BEHIND% THE WHEEL.%>>
YOU
DON'T
THINK
THAT
YOU'RE
% GOING
TO CRASH ON
YOUR
WAY
TO
% WORK
AND
YOUR
LIFE
IS
GOING
TO
% CHANGE.%>> BUT
ON A
FEBRUARY DAY
IN
% 2016, TOM WASN'T
THE
ONE
I
N
% DANGER.%IT
WAS
HIS
22-YEAR-OLD
DAUGHTER.% >>
UNFORTUNATELY,
MY
DAUGHTER
% MEGAN
WAS
KILLED
IN A
CAR
CRASH.
% AND IT WAS
DUE
TO A
DISTRACTED
% DRIVER.
% AND MEGAN
WAS
PREGNANT AT THE% TIME.
% AND I
LOST AN
UNBORN
GRANDSON.
% SHE
WAS
IN A CAR.
% SHE WAS
DRIVING
BACK HERE TO
OUR
% HOUSE,
AND SHE WAS
SITTING
AT A
% STOP SIGN
WAITING
FOR
ONCOMING
% TRAFFIC
WHEN
ANOTHER VEHICLE
% CROSSED OVER
THE
CENTER
LINE OF
% THE ROAD.%>>
FROM
THAT
DAY,
NEARLY
FOUR
% YEARS
AGO,
TOM
HAS
REFOCUSED HIS
% PERSONAL
AND
PROFESSIONAL
LIFE
% TO
RAISE
AWARENESS ABOUT
THE
% DANGERS
OF
DISTRACTED
DRIVING.% >>
SHE
DIDN'T STAND
MUCH
OF A
% CHANCE.
% AND THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENS
IN
% DISTRACTED
DRIVING-RELATED% CRASHES.
% YOU
KNOW,
THE
VEHICLES,
THEY'RE
% NOT
SLOWING
DOWN
BEFORE
THEY
HIT
% SOMEBODY
ELSE.% >>
BUT
THERE'S
ONE
TREND
TOM
% HOLDS
PARTICULARLY
RESPONSIBLE% FOR
THIS.
% SMARTPHONES.%>> IT'S
UNCANNY
THE
RELATIONSHIP
% BETWEEN
OUR
TRAFFIC
FATALITIES% ON
OUR ROADS
INCREASING AND
WHEN
% WE ALL
STARTED
GETTING
% SMARTPHONES.
% >> A SURVEY
FROM
THE NATIONAL
% HIGHWAY AND
TRAFFIC
SAFETY
% ADMINISTRATION SHOWS
5.3%
OF
% DRIVERS REPORTED
USING A
CELL
% PHONE WHILE DRIVING SHES WITH
% THE
MAJORITY
OF
THOSE
DRIVERS
% BEING
AGES
16
TO
24.
% >>
THOSE
STATISTICS CAN
OFTEN
BE
% MISLEADING.%>>
WISCONSIN STATE
PATROL
% LIEUTENANT
NATURE
!
NATE
HENRIK
SON
SAYS
% THESE
ARE
UNDER
REPORTED.% >>
WE'LL
TAKE
APPROPRIATE
% ENFORCEMENT ACTION
BASED ON THE
% EVIDENCE THAT WE
HAVE,
W
HETHER
% IT BEING
EVIDENCE
OF A
SPEEDING
% VIOLATION OR
FOLLOWING TOO
% CLOSE.%>>
THE
MESSAGE FROM
THE% DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION A
ND
% THE STATE PATROL
IS
THAT
OVERALL
% DISTRACTED DRIVING
IS
THE
% PROBLEM.
% AND
THAT
INCLUDES
SMARTPHONES.% >>
LAST
YEAR,
IN
2018, THERE
% WERE ABOUT
23,000
TRAFFIC
% CRASHES, WHICH
WERE A
RESULT
OF
% DISTRACTED
DRIVING.
% 9,000
OF
THOSE
CRASHES
WERE
% INJURY
CRASHES.
% AT
LEAST
60
OF
THOSE
WERE
% FATALITY
CRASHES.% >>
IN
WISCONSIN,
IT'S ILLEGAL
TO
% ON
TEXT
WHILE
DRIVING,
STREAM
% ENTERTAINMENT OR
USE A
HAND
% HOALD
DEVICE
WHILE
DRIVING
% THROUGH A
WORK
ZONE.
% BUT IT IS LEGAL
TO TALK
ON
YOUR
% PHONE, SO
THERE'S A BIT
OF A
% GRAY
AREA
OF WHAT
YOU
CAN
AND
% CAN'T DO
ON
YOUR
DEVICE.
% >>
AND
TALK
TO
!
STOP
AND
TALKED T
O
THEM
ABOUT
% IT.
% I
SAW YOU
WERE
DOING
SOMETHING
% ELSE
WHILE YOU WERE
DRIVING.
% IT'S
NOT
ILLEGAL
TO
TALK
ON
YOU
R
% PHONE
UNLESS
IT
DISTRACTS YOU.% >>
THERE'S A
NEW
BILL
IN
% WISCONSIN
THAT
WOULD
PLACE
% STRICTER LIMITS
ON WHAT
YOU
CAN
% DO
ON A
DEVICE
WHILE
YOU'RE
% DRIVING.%>>
ONE
TOUCH.
% THEY CAN
TOUCH
IT
ONCE.
% THAT'S IT.
% YOU CAN'T SCROLL.
% YOU
CAN'T
MULTIPLE TOUCH.
% IT HAS TO BE
IN A
HANDS-FREE
% MODE.
% >> I
THINK A
LOT
OF
PEOPLE
WOULD
% SAY WHY
DO WE NEED
IT.
% >>
STATE
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN
% SPIROS
OF
MARSHFIELD
AUTHORED
% THE
BILL.
% >>
IT
HAS
THE
POTENTIAL
TO
SAVE
% LIVES.%>> WHAT
WE'VE
SEEN
IN
OTHER
% STATES THAT
HAVE
ADOPTED A
% HANDS-FREE LAW
IS
ABOUT A
15%
TO
% 20%
DECREASE
IN
FATALITIES
AND
% SERIOUS CRASHES.
% IS THAT
PERFECT?
% NO.
% BUT
IT'S
BETTER
THAN
NOTHING.% >>
THE
BILL
WAS
INTROOSESSED
IN
INTRODUCED IN
% OFNLGT
!
OCTOBER.
% IT
HASN'T
GOTTEN
VERY
FAR.% >>
I'M
HOPEFUL
WE
GET A
HEARING
% AT
LEAST
SO WE
CAN
TALK
ABOUT
% IT.
% BUT BOTTOM
LINE
IS
EVEN
IF
IT
% DOESN'T GET
DONE THIS
TIME,
AT
% LEAST
IT'S
READY TO
GO
NEXT
% SESSION.
% WE'VE
VETTED
EVERYBODY.% >>
TOM
HELPED
GET
SIMILAR% LEGISLATION PASSED IN MIN
NESOTA.
% HE SAID
IT
WASN'T A
PRIORITY
FOR
% LAWMAKERS THERE
EITHER
UNTIL
% MORE
PEOPLE LIKE HIM
CAME
OUT
% AND HAD
THEIR
STORIES
HEARD.% >>
SO I NEED TO
DO
MORE.
% I NEED
TO KEEP PLUGGING
AWAY.
% IT'S
FRUSTRATING.
% EVERY
YEAR
WE
WAIT,
IT'S
JUST
% HUNDREDS OF MORE PEOPLE DIE.%
>>
THE
DRIVER
RESPONSIBLE
FOR
% MEGAN'S
DEATH
PLED
GUILTY
TO
% RECKLESS
DRIVING, A
GROSS
% MISDEMEANOR.%>>
MY
FAMILY'S
HAD A
LOT
OF
--
% WE'VE
HAD A
LOT
OF
DIFFICULTY% DEALING WITH
THIS
SITUATION.% >>
TOM
SAYS
HIS
MEMORY
OF
MEGAN
% KEEPS
HIM
GOING.% >> SHE
WAS A
CNA.
% SHE
WAS A
CERTIFIED
NURSING
% ASSISTANT.
% SHE LIKED
TO WORK
WITH
THE
% ELDERLY.
% A LOT
OF
PEOPLE
CAME TO
THE
% FUNERAL
THAT
WERE
FAMILY
MEMBERS% OF THE
PEOPLE
THAT
SHE
TOOK
CARE
% OF
IN
HOSPICE.
% WE HEARD
ABOUT
IT
AFTER
SHE DIED
% FROM
THE
FAMILY
MEMBERS, HOW BIG
% OF A
DIFFERENCE SHE
MADE.
% I
REMEMBER
FEELING SO
PROUD
OF
% HER AT THE TIME,
AND
I
JUST,
YOU
% KNOW,
WANTED
TO
JUST
TELL
HER
% THAT.%>>
FOR "HERE AND
NOW," I'M% MARISA
WOJCIK.% >>
SHE
KNOWS.
% SHE
KNOWS.
% >>
15
STATES
HAVE
ENACTED A
% SO-CALLED
HANDS-FREE LAW.
% OF
THOSE, 12
SAW A
DECREASE
IN
% FATALITIES
WITHIN
TWO
YEARS.
% >>
NEXT,
WHAT
TO
DO
ABOUT
% MILWAUKEE,
WHERE A
NEW
STUDY
% FROM A
FINANCIAL
NEWS
SITE
RANKS
% THE
CITY WORST IN
THE
NATION
FOR
% AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
% THE STUDY
POINTS
TO
DISPARITIES
% BETWEEN BLACK AND WHITE
PEOPLE
% IN THE
WAY
OF
INCOME,
% UNEMPLOYMENT
AND HOME
OWNERSHIP.
% BUT HOPE
MAY
BE ON
THE
HORIZON
% AS
THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% LEADERSHIP ALLIANCE THERE
% ACTIVELY SEEKS
SOLUTIONS,
% INCLUDING
DEVELOPING AND
% SUPPORTING AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% LEADERS.
% ANTONIO RILEY
IS
BOARD
PRESIDENT
% FOR
THE
ALLIANCE.
% HE
JOINS US NOW
FROM
MILWAUKEE
% AND THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
DOING
% SO.%>> THANK YOU
FOR
HAVING
ME.
% >> NOW,
YOUR
ALLIANCE WAS
% FOUNDED
IN
2017
AND
ITS
MEMBERS
% ARE READY
NOW
TO
ACTIVATE
YOUR
% MISSION GOALS.
% GOALS STATED
ON
YOUR
WEBSITE
T
O
% WITHIN
FIVE
YEARS
REDEFINE
% MILWAUKEE
AS
TOP-RANKED FOR
% AFRICAN-AMERICANS, ENSURE
% AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEADERS WANT TO
% LIVE
AND WORK
I
N
MILWAUKEE
AND
% ENHANCE A THRIEFG
!
THRIVING
AND GROWING
% POOL OF
TALENTED
% AFRICAN-AMERICAN LEADERS THERE.
% WHAT
ARE
YOUR
ACTION
STEPS
TO
% REACH THESE
GOALS?
% >>
WELL,
FIRST
OF
ALL,
LET
ME% THANK YOU FOR
THE OPPORTUNITY
TO
% BE
WITH
YOU
TODAY
TO
TALK ABOUT
% OUR VISION AND
GOALS,
NOT
JUST
% FOR
MILWAUKEE,
BUT FOR
OUR
% REGION HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
% WE
REALLY
FOCUS ON THE
FACT
THAT% WE
NEED TO
WORK
WITH
HARD AT
% CHANGING
SOME OF
THE
% DEMOGRAPHICS, DEFICIENCIES
THAT% WE SEE FOR
AFRICAN-AMERICANS% HERE
IN
MILWAUKEE.
% ONE
OF
OUR
GOALS
IS TO MAKE
% MILWAUKEE
BY
2025 A
PLACE
WHERE
% AFRICAN-AMERICAN
LEADERSHIP
CAN
% THRIVE.
% AND
ANOTHER ONE
OF
THOSE
GOALS
% THAT YOU
MENTIONED
EARLIER, IT
% IS
ABOUT A
TALENT
POOL ALSO.
% NOW, AS PART
OF
THOSE
EFFORTS,% WE ARE
ENGAGING
WITH
ALLIES,
THE
% BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND THE LIKE
% WITH
ACTUAL
DELIVERABLE
% STRATEGIES ON
HOW
TO ACHIEVE% THAT GOAL.%WHEN I
T COMES
TO
MAKING
SURE
% THAT WE
ARE A
COMMUNITY
BY
2025
% WHERE
AFRICAN-AMERICANS CAN
% THRIVE
AND
THAT WE
HAVE
THAT
% TALENT
POOL AS
WELL,
WE
WORK
% WITH
THE
METROPOLITAN CHAMBER OF
% COMMERCE
TO
COME
UM
!
COME
UP
WITH
THE
% REGION OF
CHOICE,
SETTING
SOME
% REALLY
CLEAR,
MEASURABLE
GOALS
% ABOUT HOW WE
ARE
GOING TO
GET% THERE IN TERMS
OF,
ONE,
DOING
% TWO
THINGS.
% ONE, IT
IS
TO
INCREASE THE
% NUMBER
O
F
AFRICAN-AMERICANS
AND
% LATINOS
IN
MANAGEMENT
POSITIONS
% BY
25%
BY 2025.
% AND IT IS
TO
INCREASE
% AFRICAN-AMERICAN
AND
LATINO
% EMPLOYMENT
BY
15%
BY
THAT
SAME
% TIME.
% IN ORDER FOR US TO
ACHIEVE
THOSE
% GOALS,
WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
TO
% MAKE
SURE
THAT
PEOPLE WHO
ARE% HERE
IN
MILWAUKEE METROPOLITAN% AREA ARE
GETTING
THE
SKILLS
THE
Y
% NEED
BY WHICH TO
CLIMB
THAT
% CORPORATE
LADDER.
% WHEN
WE
RECRUIT
PEOPLE, MAKE% SURE THEY CAN
LIVE,
WORK
AND
% PLAY HERE.
% THAT
MEANS
THEY WOULD HAVE
TO
% STAY
HERE.
% SO ALL
THOSE
GOALS
ARE
VERY
% IMPORTANT TO
US
ACHIEVING
THAT
% BENCHMARK BY
2025.% >>
WHY
ARE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% LEADERS
IN
MILWAUKEE IMPORTANT% TO
TURNING
THE
CITY
AROUND
FOR
% ALL
PEOPLE
OF
COLOR?
% >>
WELL,
YOU
KNOW,
IT'S
VERY
% IMPORTANT.
% AND
I'LL
JUST
PUT
IT TO
YOU,
% ANSWER YOUR
QUESTION THIS WAY.
% AT THE END OF THE DAY AS A
% COMMUNITY, WE HAVE
TO
TAKE
% RESPONSIBILITY FOR
OURSELVES.
% AND
WE
REALLY
DO.
% AND A
LOT OF US DO.
% AND WE HAVE
TO
SIMPLY
SAY
THAT
% LEADERSHIP WITHIN OUR
COMMUNITY,% NOT JUST IN THE CORPO
RATE
AREA,
% BUT
FOLKS
IN
CORPORATE
% WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE AS
WELL
AS% FOLKS FROM
THE
NEIGHBORHOOD,
% FROM
NOT-FOR-PROFITS
AND
ALL
% SORTS
OF
OTHER
GROUPS
AND
IT
% DOESN'T
JUST
CONSIST
OF
STRICTLY
% AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
%
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE
THAT
% AFRICAN-AMERICANS' VOICES
ARE
%
BEING HEARD AND THEY ARE A PART%
OF THAT CONVERSATION AND
THUS A% PART
OF HELPING US
TO
ACHIEVE
%
THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BUILD A
% STRONGER REGION.%SO THAT'S
IMPORTANT, THAT WE
% LEAD
FOR
OURSELVES
AS WELL.% >>
WHY
HAS MILWAUKEE
IN
YOUR
% MIND LANGUAGE
!
LANGUISHED AND
RANKED
SO
%
POORLY FOR
DISPARITIES
% HISTORICALLY?%>> WELL, THAT
IS A
VERY
LARGE
%
QUESTION
THAT HAS LOTS
OF
% DIFFERENT
NUANCES
TO
IT.
% AND WE
KNOW OF
THE RACIAL
% SEGREGATION
THAT EXISTS
WITHIN% NOT JUST
THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE,% BUT
THROUGHOUT THE
ENTIRE
% REGION.
% ONE OF
THE
OTHER
POLICY --
ONE% OF
THE
OTHER
AREAS, A
S
YOU
KNOW
% FROM
OUR
WEBSITE, IT IS TO
BE A
% LEADER
ON
PUBLIC
POLICY,
% ENGAGING WITH
ELECTED
OFFICIALS,
% TALK
ABOUT
THOSE
STRATEGIES
THAT
% BUILD
ALSO
THE
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% COMMUNITY,
BUT
ALSO
TALKS
ABOUT
% HOW
DO
WE
TRANSFORM
THE
ENTIRE
% REGION.
% BUT WE HAVE
LAGGED
BEHIND.
% AND
IT'S
UNFORTUNATE,
FOR A
HOST
% OF
DIFFERENT
REASONS.
% IT
COMES
TO
H
OUSING,
THE
% SEGREGATION, THE
TRANSPORTATION
% ISSUES.
% ALL THOSE
THINGS.
% AND
OUR
SCHOOL SYSTEMS.
% AND LET
ME
ALSO
SAY
OUR
CRIMINAL
% JUSTICE
SYSTEM AS
WELL.
% AND SO WE
HAVE
TO
TALK
ABOUT
ALL
% THOSE
SYMPTOMS
OF
WHAT
EXISTS
IN
% OUR COMMUNITY.
% NOW
LET'S
TALK
ABOUT
HOW
DO
WE
% WORK WITH
ALLIES
TO
FIGURE
OUT
% MEASURABLE
STRATEGIES TO
BEGIN% TO ADDRESS
IT.
% >>
BRIEFLY
AND
FINALLY,
DESCRIBE% HOW
COMMITTED
YOUR
GROUP
IS
% TOWARD
THESE
GOALS
FOR
% MILWAUKEE?%>>
OH, WE
ARE
VERY
COMMITTED TO% IT.
% I
MEAN,
THIS
CAME OUT OF THE
% AALP,
WHICH HAS BEEN
FOR
THE
% LAST
TEN
YEARS
ONE OF
THE
% PREMIERE
TRAINING
PROGRAMS
TO
% DEVELOP AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% LEADERSHIP
IN
CORPORATE
% MILWAUKEE, SOME
200
ALIEWM
!
ALUMNI.
% WE
CALLED
TOGETHER
ABOUT
80
% FOLKS,
AFRICAN-AMERICAN
LEADERS
% AND CORPORATE
FOLKS,
TO
DO A
% SESSION BACK
IN
MAY.
% AND
THAT'S
HOW
WE
THEN WENT
% FORWARD
AND
LAUNCHED
OUR
GROUP
% PUBLICLY
AND
ESTABLISHED A
% NOT-FOR-PROFIT
STATUS
AND
BOARD.
% NEXT
YEAR WE ARE GOING TO
BE
% RETOOLING THE
LEADERSHIP
% PROGRAM,
LAUNCHED IN
MARCH
OF
% 2020.
% WE WILL
HERE A
LEAD
CHAMPION
% CATALYST, WHICH MEANS
OUR
NEW
% EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR, WHO
WILL
% THEN
HIRE
ADDITIONAL STAFF TO
% FURTHER THE MISSION.
% SO WE
ARE
COMMITTED TO I
T
AND
WE% THANK
ALL
OF
OUR
ALLIES AND
% PARTNERS
OUT
THERE FOR
ALL OF% THEIR SUPPORT.
% WE'RE
LOOKING FORWARD
TO
GETTING
% THIS WORK
DONE.
% >> ALL
RIGHT.
% ANTONIO
RILEY,
THANKS
VERY
MUCH
% FOR
JOINING
US.
% >> THANK
YOU.% >>
IN
THESE
HYPER,
UBER,
% UNCONTROLLABLY PARTISAN TIMES
% THERE MUST BE
SOMETHING
% PARTISANS
CAN
COME
TOGETHER
ON,
% LIKE
BEING
THANKFUL
IN THIS
% SEASON
ON OF
GIVING.
% WELL, MAYBE.
% WE
CHECK
IN
WITH
OUR
POLITICAL
% PANEL
O
F
TWO, BILL
MCCOSHEN
AND% SCOT
ROSS.
% THANKS
FOR
BEING
HERE.
% SO YOU
GUYS
HAD AN
ASSIGNMENT% AND THAT WAS TO
GIVE
US
SOME OF
% THE THINGS THAT
YOU
ARE
THANKFUL
% FOR.
% WE WILL
START
OFF
WITH BILL
% MCCOSHEN'S FIRST
ONE.
% THAT
IS
THAT
YOU
ARE
THANKFUL
% THAT
SPEAKER NANCY
PELOSI
PUT
% ADAM
SCHIFF
IN
CHARGE OF
THE
% PREEVMENT
!
IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY.
% WHY ARE
YOU
THANKFUL
FOR
THAT?
% >>
I
AM
SUPER
THANKFUL FOR
THAT.
% I DON'T
THINK
IT COULD
HAVE
GONE
% BETTER FOR
REPUBLICANS.
%
FIRST OF ALL, I
THINK
HE'S
THE
% LEAST
CREDIBLE
CONGRESSMAN
IN
% D.C.%HE WAS
THE
GUY
THAT
TOLD
US% THERE
WAS
COLLUSION
H
IDING
IN
% PLAIN SIGHT.
% REMEMBER
THAT?
% AND THERE WASN'T.
% HE
SAID
THAT THERE
WAS
EVIDENCE
% THAT
WOULD
TAKE
DOWN
DON
% NATIONAL
TRUMP
AS
RELATES
TO
% THIS
IMPEACHMENT.
% HE'S
THE
LEAST
CREDIBLE GUY.
% SECONDLY, TURNS
OUT
THE
BOOK
WAS
% MUCH BETTER THAN
THE
MOVIE ON
% THIS.
% THE
POLL
NUMBERS
FOR
THE
% IMPEACHMENT
WAS
GROWING
WHEN% THEY
WERE
HAVING
SECRET
% DEPOSITIONS DOWN IN
THE
BASEMENT% OF THE
HOUSE
OF
REPRESENTATIVES.
% WHEN
THEY
PUT
THIS
ON
TV,
ADAM
% HIF
IS
SORT
!
SCHIFF
IS
SORT
OF A
% CREEPY-LOOKING
GUY.
% IT PLAYED TO
REPUBLICANS'% BENEFITS.
% AND NATIONAL
AND
STATE
POLLS
% HAVE
SHOWN
THAT DONALD
TRUMP'S
% NUMBERS
HAVE
FLIPPED AS
RELATES
% TO
IMPEACHMENT.% >>
THAT
IS
TRUE.
% YOUR RESPONSE?%>>
I'M
VERY HAPPY
THAT
THE
% DEMOCRATS ARE
MOVING
FORWARD
% WITH
THE
% CONSTITUTIONALLY-REQUIRED%PR
OVISION THAT
THEY
HOLD
% CORRUPTION
ACCOUNTABLE
IN
THE
% EXECUTIVE.
% AND, YOU
KNOW,
LISTEN,
I
SAW
--
% I JUST
SAW A
POLL,
YOU
KNOW,
% EARLY, MIDDLE
WEEK,
THAT
SAID
% 60%
OF
WOMEN
IN
THE UNITED
% STATES
WANT
IMPEACHMENT
AND
% REMOVAL
AND
THAT THERE
IS A
% MAJORITY
OF
PEOPLE
WHO
WANT
% IMPEACHMENT
AND
REMOVAL.
% I
KNOW
THE
FRANKLIN
POLL
HAD
% SOME
NUMBERS, BUT
TO
BELIEVE
% THOSE
NUMBERS, YOU
HAVE
TO
% BELIEVE
THAT
LIBERALS
INCREASED
% THE
AMOUNT
THAT
THEY
--
LIBERALS
% INCREASED --
REDUCED THE
AMOUNT
% THAT THEY
ARE
FOR
IMPEACHMENT
BY
% 10%
T
O
15%,
AS
DID
THE
18
TO
44.
% I DON'T
THINK
THAT'S
CREDIBLE
%
WITH
ALL
DUE
RESPECT.% >>
LET'S
GO
THEN
TO
YOUR
% THANKFUL NOTE.%YOU SAY THAT Y
OU
ARE
THANKFUL
% THAT
THE
DEMOCRATS
HAVE
HELD
% TRUMP TO
ACCOUNT FOR
HIS
ENDLESS
% CORRUPTION ON
THIS
SAME
TOPIC.% >>
ABSOLUTELY.
% IT'S SO
IMPORTANT.
% BECAUSE IF THE
PRESIDENT
CAN GET
% AWAY
WITH
THIS
CORRUPTION,
THEN
% ANYONE
CAN GET
AWAY
WITH
THINGS.
% IT'S A
RECKLESS
LAWLESSNESS
THAT
% WE DON'T
NEED.
% THE CASE HAS
BEEN
LAID
OUT
IN
% PLAIN
SIGHT.
% THE
PRESIDENT
ADMITTED
THAT WHAT% YOU
DID, HIS
CHIEF
OF
STAFF
% ADMITTED WHAT HE
DID.
% AGAIN, I
UNDERSTAND
WHAT
BILL'S% TASK IS.
% HE'S
GOT
TO
MUDDY
UP
THE
WATERS.
% BUT WHO
ARE
YOU
GOING
TO
BELIEVE
% IN
THIS,
CAREER
PUBLIC
SERVANTS
% WHO
TESTIFIED
UNDER
OATH
WITH A
% CONSISTENT TIME
LINE
AND
NO
DARE
% DERIVATION
IN
THEIR
STORIES.
% >>
THEY'RE
BECOMING THE
PARTY
OF
% CHICKEN
LITTLE.
% THE
SKY
ISN'T
FALLING
SINCE
TWO
% YEARS AGO.
% SO
I
THINK
THEY
RUN
THE
RISK
OF
% NOT
HAVING AN AGENDA
AND
% ACTUALLY
GETTING ISSUES
DONE
% THAT
PEOPLE
CARE
ABOUT.
% POLLING NOW
SAYS
THAT
VOTERS
SAY
% THAT
POLITICIANS
AND
THE
MEDIA
% CARE MORE
ABOUT
THIS
THAN
THEY
% DO.%>>
LET
ME
ASK
YOU
BOTH WHAT YOU
% THINK OF RUDY
GIULIANI?
% >> I
CAN HEAR
IT.
% IT'S
THAT SOUND
WHEN
THE
BUS
% BACKS
UP,
BECAUSE TRUMP
IS
% GETTING
READY
TO
ROLL
HIM
UNDER
% THAT.
% WE'LL HAVE TO
SEE
WHAT
THAT
% INSURANCE POLICY IS
THAT
HE'S
% BEEN
CROWING
ABOUT.% >>
RUDY
HAS
GOT
SHARP
ELBOWS.
% I DON'T THINK TRUMP IS
GOING
TO
% ROLL
HIM
UNDER
ANY
BUS.
% I'D
RATHER
HAVE
RUDY
IN
THE
% FOXHOLE
WITH
ME.
% >> SCOT ROSS,
YOU
SAY
YOU
ARE
% THANKFUL
THAT
THE
DEMOCRATIC% PARTY
IS
THE
PARTY
OF
INCLUSION
% AND
EMPOWERMENT.
% THAT'S VERY
NICE.% >>
I'M A
WHITE
GUY,
SO
THERE'S
% CLEARLY A
LOT
OF
WORK TO
BE
DONE
% IN
THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY,
WHERE
% THE
IDEAS
OF
INDIVIDUAL --
% RESPECTING INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND
% NEEDS
ARE A
PART OF
THE
PARTY
% PLATFORM, WHETHER
IT'S
ISSUES
OF
% RACE,
LGBTQ, ISSUES
OF
GENDER.
% YOU
KNOW,
ALL
THESE
ISSUES
OF
% DIVERSITY ARE
CRITICALLY
% IMPORTANT TO THE
DEMOCRATIC
% PARTY.
% AND
WHY
IT
REPRESENTS PEOPLE
IN% A
MUCH BETTER WAY
THAN
THE
% REPUBLICAN PARTY
DOES.
% ONE
THING
IN
PARTICULAR.
% AFTER
THE
HOUSE
ELECTIONS
IN
% 2018,
THE
REPUBLICAN --
THE
% REPRESENTATION OF WHITE MEN
IN
% THE
REPUBLICAN HOUSE
WENT
FROM
% 86% TO
90%,
WHERE
THE
DEMOCRATIC
% PARTY WE
WENT
FROM
41%
TO
38%.% >>
DO
YOU
MEA
N
TO
SAY
THAT
THE
% REPUBLICAN PARTY DOES
NOT
% EMPOWER OR
INCLUDE
PEOPLE?
% >>
I
THINK
WHEN YOU
HAVE A
WHITE
% NATIONALIST
LIKE STEVEN MILLER
% DIRECTING POLICY
THAT
ARE
SO
% HARMFUL TO SO MANY FOLKS,
I
% THINK THE
REASON
THE
DEMOCRATIC% PARTY
IS
MORE
REFLECTIVE OF
% AMERICA IS
BECAUSE
IT'S
GOT
MORE
% OF
AMERICA
IN
IT.
% YOU
SEE
THAT
IN
THE
POLICY,
YOU
% KNOW,
IN
WHAT
IT'S
CONCERNED
% ABOUT.%>>
REPUBLICANS
JUST
ELECTED
THE
% FIRST
BLACK
ATTORNEY
GENERAL
IN
% KENTUCKY
HISTORY A
COUPLE
WEEKS
% AGO.%DONALD TRUMP
IS
GOING TO BE
% PROUD TO
RUN
O
N
HIS
RECORD FOR
% MINORITIES.
% UNEMPLOYMENT FOR
BLACKS
AND
% HISPANICS IS THE
LOWEST
IN
% HISTORY.
% THOSE ARE
THINGS
THAT BARACK
% OBAMA, AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN
% PRESIDENT, COULD
NOT
SAY.
% UNEMPLOYMENT
ACTUALLY
INCREASED
% WHILE HE WAS PRESIDENT.
% SO
I
THINK
WHILE
I
UNDERSTAND
% SCOT'S POINT AND
I
APPRECIATE
% IT, I
THINK
THE
REPUBLICAN
PARTY% HAS
COME A
LONG,
LONG
WAY
ON
% THIS
AND
W
E'RE
ACTUALLY
GOING TO
% BE
ABLE
TO
COMPETE
MORE
% FAVORABLY
IN
THE
MINORITY
% COMMUNITIES IN
2020.
% >> UNTIL THE PRESIDENT
IS
NOT
% TWEETING
B
Y
THE
LET
OF A
TIKI
% TORCH
ABOUT
COUNTRIES,
I
THINK
% THERE'S A LOT
OF
WORK
TO
DO.
% >>
WE'LL
LEAVE
THAT
THERE.
% REPUBLICANS IN
WISCONSIN
% SUCCESSFULLY
PUSHED
FOR
MIDDLE
% INCOME TAX
CUT.% >>
THIS
IS
IMPORTANT.
% ALS
!
AS
PEOPLE
GET
READY
TO
START
% BUYING
HOLIDAY
GIFTS, THEY
HAVE
% MORE MONEY
IN
THEIR
POCKET
% BECAUSE TONY
EVERS
LOWERED
% MIDDLE
INCOME
TAXES.
% HE
VETOED A
BILL
IN
% FEBRUARY THAT WOULD HAVE DONE%
THAT.
% THEY PUT
IT
IN
THE
STATE
BUDGET% A LITTLE LATER
IN
THE
PROCESS.
% THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THAT.
% IT'S
NOT
ONLY
GOOD
POLICY.
% IT TURNS
OUT TO
BE
GREAT
% POLITICS
BECAUSE
NOT A
SINGLE
% DEMOCRAT
VOTED
FOR
THOSE
BILLS
% IN
FEBRUARY OR
JUNE.
% THEY'RE
GOING TO
SEE
INFORMATION
% ABOUT
THAT
IN
THEIR
CAMPAIGNS IN
% 2020.%>>
THE
REPUBLICANS
ARE
HAULING% TONY EVERS TO
COURT
BECAUSE HE
% WANTED
TO
INCREASE EDUCATION
% SPENDING.%THAT'S
ALL
YOU
NEED
TO
KNOW
% ABOUT
THE
ECONOMIC
PRIORITIES OF
% THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.%>>
WE
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
% YOU GUYS
HAVE A
GREAT
HOLIDAY
% WEEKEND.%>> YOU TOO.%>>
YOU AS
WELL.% >> THANK
YOU.
% THAT
IS
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT.
% I'M F
HAVE A
!
FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
% HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.