TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND
GROUPS
%-ON
HIS
BEHALF
HAVE
FILED
SEVERAL
%-LAWSUITS
CHALLENGING
THE
RESULTS%-OF
THE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
IN
%-WISCONSIN,
WHICH A
FINAL
CANVASS
%-AND
RECOUNT SHOWED JOE
BIDEN
WON
%-BY
20,682
VOTES.
%-THE
WISCONSIN SUPREME COURT
%-THURSDAY
DENIED
TRUMP'S
REQUEST
%-TO HEAR
THE
CASE
THAT
FOCUSED
ON
%-BALLOT ISSUES
CHALLENGED
DURING
%-THE RECOUNT OF
DANE
AND
%-MILWAUKEE
COUNTIES, SENDING
IT
%-INSTEAD
TO A
LOWER
COURT,
WHICH
%-ALREADY
THIS
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HELD A
%-SCHEDULING HEARING.
%-ANOTHER
TRUMP
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MIDWEEK
%-IN FEDERAL COURT
IN
MILWAUKEE%-CALLS FOR
THE
%-REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED
%-LEGISLATURE TO
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WHO
%-WON.
%-THAT
COURT
ALSO
HELD A
HEARING
%-THIS AFTERNOON.
%-NOW, THE
CASES
ARE
MOVING FAST
%-BY
NECESSITY.
%-DECEMBER 14 MARKS THE
DATE
WHEN
%-EACH
DATE
CASTS
THEIR BALLOTS
%-FOR
PRESIDENT
AND VICE PRESIDENT
%-DURING A MEETING
OF
THE
%-ELECTORS.
%-SENIOR POLITICAL
REPORTER ZAC
%-SCHULTZ HAS BEEN
TRACKING
THE
%-DIZZYING ARRAY
OF
LITIGATION.
%-HE
JOINS
US
NOW
AND
HI,
ZAC.%->>
HELLO,
FRED.%->>
SO
ELECTORAL COLLEGE
%-DEADLINES LOOM.
%-AREN'T
THESE
LAWSUITS
CAUSING
%-WISCONSIN TO
BLOW BY
THEM?
%->>
WELL, WE HAVE
THEM
COMING
UP
%-RATHER
QUICKLY AND
THAT'S ONE OF
%-THE THINGS
THE
JUDGES AND
THE
%-COURTS HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSING IN
%-THESE
RULINGS,
IS
THEY
NEED
TO
%-MOVE VERY
FAST
AND
EACH OF
THE
%-CAMPAIGNS NEEDS
TO
MOVE
FAST IN
%-ADDRESSING AND
RESPONDING TO
%-THEM.%-THERE
ARE
REAL
QUESTIONS ABOUT
%-IF THESE
GET
RESOLVED
IN DONALD
%-TRUMP'S FAVOR
SOMEHOW, WOULD
%-THEY EVEN
BE
LEGITIMATE
IF
THEY
%-TAKE
PLACE
AFTER
NEXT
TUESDAY'S
%-SAFE HARBOR
TIME
OR
BEFORE
%-ELECTORS
VOTE ON
THE
14TH.
%-GOVERNOR
EVERS
HAS
ALREADY%-CERTIFIED
THE
ELECTORS
THAT
WILL
%-VOTE FOR JOE
BIDEN
FOR
OUR
TEN
%-ELECTORAL
VOTES.
%->>
SO, AS
WE
SAID, A
FEDERAL
%-SUIT CALLS
FOR
THE
LEGISLATURE%-TO
CHOOSE THE
SLATE
OF
ELECTORS
%-IF THAT
TIME
LINE
GOES
BY
THE
%-BOARDS
IN A
HEARING
ON
THAT
CASE
%-TODAY, THE
JUDGE
CALLED
IT A
%-BIZARRE REMEDY FOR
HIS
COURT.
%-COULD IT
HAPPEN,
THOUGH, THAT
%-THE
LEGISLATURE
CHOOSES
THE
%-ELECTORS?
%->>
ONLY
IF A
FEDERAL JUDGE
SAID
%-THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENS,
INVALIDATED
%-THE ENTIRE ELECTION AND
GAVE IT
%-TO
THE
WISCONSIN
LEGISLATURE
TO
%-DECIDE.
%-WISCONSIN'S
REPUBLICANS HAVE
%-ALREADY SAID THAT'S NOT
GOING TO
%-HAPPEN.
%-THEY'RE NOT LOOKING
TO
OVERTHROW
%-THE ELECTION
IN
THAT
FASHION.
%-SIMILAR LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN
FILED
%-IN
OTHER
CLOSE
SWING
STATES
AND
%-THEY'VE ALL
LOST
ON
THOSE SAME
%-GROUNDS.
%-SO
IN
THEORY,
SURE,
THAT'S
WHY
%-THEY'RE
GOING TO COURT.
%-IN
LIKELIHOOD, VERY
LOW.%->>
NOW,
MUCH HAS BEEN
MADE
OF
%-THESE
UNSUCCESSFUL TRUMP
%-LAWSUITS IN OTHER
STATES AND
%-THIS WEEK
OUR
HIGH
COURT
%-REJECTED
TAKING A
CASE,
BUT TO
%-BE CLEAR ON
THIS, NOT
BASED ON%-THE FACTS
OF
IT,
BUT
ON
%-PROCEDURAL
GROUNDS.
%-IS THAT
RIGHT?
%->>
YEAH.
%-STATE
LAW
SAYS THEY HAVE TO GO
%-THROUGH A CIRCUIT
COURT,
THE
%-LOWEST
COUNTY
LEVEL
FIRST,
%-BEFORE IT WORKS
ITS
WAY
UP.
%-THE
TRUMP
CAMPAIGN
ASKED
FOR AN%-ORIGINAL ACTION IN
THE SUPREME
%-COURT.
%-THREE OF
THE
CONSERVATIVES SAID%-THEY
WOULD
HAVE
TAKEN
IT.
%-BUT
ULTIMATELY A
4-3
MAJORITY
%-DECIDED IT
NEEDED TO GO
THE
%-CIRCUIT
COURT
ROUTE
FIRST.%->>
JUSTICE BRIAN HAGEDORN
WAS
%-THE
SWING
VOTE
AND
ALSO
EARLY
%-TONIGHT
ANOTHER
SUIT
BROUGHT
BY
%-AN
ALLIED
GROUP
WAS
REJECTED BY
%-THE
COURT.
%-HAGEDORN
WROTE
IN CONCURRENCE%-THAT
THE
REMEDY
SOUGHT
TINE
%-VALIDATE
THE
ENTIRE PRESIDENTIAL%-ELECTION WAS
STUNNING,
%-UNPRECEDENTED IN
AMERICAN
%-HISTORY
AND
REPLETE WITH
GLARING
%-FLAWS.
%-HE
WROTE,
QUOTE,
SOMETHING
FAR
%-MORE
FUNDAMENTAL
THAN
THE
WINNER
%-OF
WISCONSIN'S
ELECTORAL VOTES
%-IS IMPLICATED IN
THIS
CASE.
%-AT
STAKE,
HE
SAID,
IN
SOME
%-MEASURE IS
FAITH
IN
OUR
SYSTEM
%-OF
FREE
AND
FAIR
ELECTIONS, A
%-FEATURE CENTRAL TO
THE
ENDURING
%-STRENGTH
OF
OUR
CONSTITUTIONAL%-REPUBLIC.
%-STRONG
WORDS
FROM JUSTICE
%-HAGEDORN.%->> THAT'S RIGHT.
%-WHAT
THE
JUSTICES
ASK
JUSTICES
ARE
BEING
%-ASKED
TO
DO
HAS
NEVER
BEEN
DONE.
%-THERE
ARE
NO
ALLEGATIONS OF
%-VOTER FRAUD IN
ANY
OF
THESE
%-LAWSUITS.
%-THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF
FRAUD.
%-THERE
HASN'T
BEEN
FRAUD
%-ANYWHERE.
%-WHAT
THEY'RE
TALKING
ABOUT
ARE
%-TECHNICAL
IRREGULARITIES
THAT%-MAY HAVE MADE
SOME OF
THE
VOTES
%-CAST
ILLEGAL
AND
THE
QUESTION
OF
%-LAW
AROUND
WHETHER
THEY HAVE%-BEEN ABLE
TO
CAST
THEM
IN
THAT
%-MANNER IN THE FIRST
PLACE
AT A
%-BALLOT
BOX OR
THROUGH AN%-ABSENTEE
WITHOUT A FORMAL
%-WRITTEN
REQUEST OR
IF A
CRERK
%-REMEDIED AN ADDRESS
NUMBER
OR
%-ZIP
CODE, SMALL THINGS
THAT HAVE
%-BEEN
OVERLOOKED
IN
THE PAST THAT
%-ARE
NOW
BEING
QUESTIONED, DOES
%-THAT MEAN
THE
ENTIRE BALLOT
HAS%-TO BE
THROWN
OUT
AND
THAT'S A%-BIG
HURDLE FOR
SOME
OF
THESE
%-JUSTICES TO
OVERCOME.
%->>
SO
JUSTICES
SENT
THAT
OTHER
%-CASE
THAT
ASKED TO
BE
HEARD
%-FIRST BY
THE
HIGH
COURT
TO A
%-LOWER COURT
ON
THOSE
PROCEDURAL
%-GROUNDS,
WHICH
CHIEF
JUSTICE
%-ROGGENSACK
WANTED
TO
HEAR,
%-SAYING,
QUOTE, WE AS
THE
LAW
%-DECLARING COURT
OWE IT
TO
THE
%-PUBLIC
TO
DECLARE
WHETHER
THE
%-WISCONSIN
ELECTIONS
COMMISSION'%-ADVICE
IS
INCORRECT.
%-HOWEVER,
DOING
SO
DOES
NOT
%-NECESSARILY
LEAD
TO
STRIKING
%-ABSENTEE
BALLOTS THAT
WERE
CAST
%-BY
FOLLOWING INCORRECT
WEC
%-ADVICE.
%-SO
THE
REMEDY
PETITIONERS SEEK
%-MAY
BE OUT
OF
REACH
FOR A
NUMBER
%-OF
REASONS.
%-SO
WHAT
REMEDY,
TOSSING
200,000
%-BALLOTS,
THEREBY
OVERTURNING THE
%-RESULTS?%->> YEAH.
%-AND THAT
GETS
RIGHT TO THE
HEART
%-OF WHY
THE
TRUMP
CAMPAIGN ONLY
%-SOUGHT A RECOUNT IN
DANE
AND
%-MILWAUKEE
COUNTIES,
TWO
%-DEMOCRATIC
STRONGHOLDS, BECAUSE
%-THE REMEDY HERE
IS
TO
TOSS
%-WHAT'S
CALLED A
DRAWDOWN, A
%-RANDOM
COLLECTION
OF
BALLOTS
%-FROM THOSE
AREAS, BECAUSE
%-THERE'S NO
WAY
TO
LINK
THE
%-ACTUAL BALLOT
TO
WHAT
MAY
BE AN
%-ILLEGAL VOTE IN THE FIRST PLACE.%-SO THE
GOOD, THE
BAD,
ALL
THE
%-BALLOTS ARE TOGETHER.
%-SO
YOU
RANDOMLY DRAW THEM
DOWN.
%-IF
YOU DO
IT
STATEWIDE
YOU'RE
%-GOING TO
GET A
DRAW.
%-YOU DO
IT
IN
DANE
AND MILWAUKEE
%-COUNTY, THE
TRUMP
CAMPAIGN SAYS
%-WE WILL
WIN
IF
THAT'S WHAT
%-HAPPENS.%->> NO
DOUBT.
%-SO
MEANWHILE
AT
THE
STATE
%-CAPITOL ON
REPUBLICANS ARE
%-HOLDING
THEIR
OWN
ELECTION
%-INVESTIGATION NEXT WEEK.
%-WE HAVE
SEEN
THIS IN
OTHER
%-STATES.%-WE ARE OUT OF
TIME
TO
TALK
ABOUT%-THAT
NOW,
BUT
WE WILL
BE
%-COVERING
IT.
%-ZAC
SCHULTZ, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH
%-AND THANKS FOR
COVERING
THIS.%->> THANK YOU.
%->>
WE
CAN'T
MOVE
FORWARD
%-TOGETHER
WHEN
WE
ACKNOWLEDGE
%-REALITY
IN
PRIVATE
AND
THEN
%-PEDDLE
FALSEHOODS IN
PUBLIC.
%-THAT
IS A
QUOTE
FROM AN
ARTICLE
%-PUBLISHED
THIS
WEEK
BY
THE
%-FORMER
CHAIRMAN OF
THE
BROWN
%-COUNTY REPUBLICAN PARTY, WHO
%-LEFT THE
PARTY
WITH
THE
2016
%-ELECTION
OF DONALD
TRUMP.
%-IN HIS
ARTICLE, MARK
BECKER
%-RECOUNTS A PHONE CALL HE
HAD
%-AFTER THIS
YEAR'S ELECTION
WITH
%-WISCONSIN
SENATOR RON JOHNSON.
%-AND BY
BECKER'S
ACCOUNT HE
WAS
%-HORRIFIED BY WHAT HE
HEARD.
%-HE JOINS
US
NOW
FROM GREEN BAY
%-AND
THANKS A LOT
FOR DOING
SO.
%->>
THANK
YOU
VERY
MUCH.
%-IT'S AN HONOR TO BE
HERE.%->>
SO
WHAT
DID
SENATOR
JOHNSON
%-SAY TO YOU
THAT
YOU
FOUND
%-UNCONSCIONABLE?%->>
WELL,
IT'S
JUST
SO
%-FRUSTRATING
TO
UNDERSTAND
THAT
%-ELECTED
OFFICIALS
LIKE RON
%-JOHNSON KNOW THE
TRUTH.
%-THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT HAPPENED.%-THEY
HAVE A
FIRM
GRASP
ON
%-REALITY
WHEN THE
CAMERAS ARE
%-OFF, BUT
THEN
THEY DON'T
THINK%-THAT THE
PUBLIC
DESERVES TO
HEAR
%-THAT
SAME
TRUTH
WHEN
THE
CAMERAS
%-ARE
ON
AND
IT'S
ON
RECORD.
%-AND
THE
DAMAGE
THAT'S DOING
%-TUESDAY, TO
THE
FABRIC OF
OUR
%-SOCIETY,
IS
-- LIKE I
SAID,
IT'S
%-UNCON
SEVENTEENABLE.
%-IT'S
HORRIBLE.%->>
SO
HE
TOLD
YOU
THAT
HE
KNOWS
%-THAT JOE BIDEN IS
THE
%-PRESIDENT-ELECT, BUT
HE'S
NOT
%-WILLING TO
STATE
THAT
PUBLIC
LY
%-AND WHY
DID
HE
SAY
THAT?
%->> ONE OF THE
THINGS
WE SAW
IN
%-THE
2016
ELECTION WAS
RON
WAS
%-THE
HIGHEST
VOTE GET
ER
GETTER
OF
ANY
%-REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE IN
THE
%-HISTORY OF
THE STATE OF%-WISCONSIN.
%-HE
SAID
MY
GOAL
WAS TO
GET
1.5
%-MILLION VOTES IN
WISCONSIN.
%-HE SAID I DIDN'T
GET
THAT.
%-BUT DONALD TRUMP DID.
%-AND
SO,
YOU
KNOW,
HE
DIDN'T
WANT
%-TO
TICK
THOSE
VOTERS OFF
AND
HE
%-SAW
THE
BIG
SWELL
THAT
PEOPLE
%-THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS
BEEN
ABLE
%-TO GET.
%-BUT
HE
WASN'T
WILLING
TO
ROCK
%-THAT
BOAT.%->>
IN
FACT,
IN
YOUR
ARTICLE YOU
%-SAY THAT HE
SAID TO YOU
I
KNOW
%-BIDEN
WON, BUT IT
WOULD
BE
%-POLITICAL SUICIDE
TO
ADMIT
IT.
%->>
YES.
%-YES.
%-THAT'S
EXACTLY
RIGHT.%->>
SO WHAT
ABOUT
THE
SILENCE ON%-THE
PART
OF
OTHER
ELECTED
%-REPUBLICANS AND THE
STOKING
OF
%-CONSPIRACIES?
%-HOW
IN
YOUR
MIND
DO
THEY
%-UNDERMINE DEMOCRACY, AS
YOU
%-NOTE?
%->>
WELL,
IT
UNDERMINES DEMOCRACY
%-BECAUSE THE
SANCTITY OF
THE
VOTE%-IS
THE
MOST
PRECIOUS THING
THAT
%-WE
HAVE IN
OUR
POLITICS.
%-IT'S
STOKING THAT.
%-IT'S
UNCONSCIONABLE.
%-IT'S
HORRIBLE
TO
KNOW
THAT
THESE
%-ELECTED
OFFICIALS
VALUE
THEIR
%-PARTY OVER THE OATH
THAT
THEY
%-TOOK TO
SERVE
THE
COUNTRY.
%-AND
SO, YOU
KNOW, RON JOHNSON
IS
%-NOT
UNIQUE IN THIS.
%-I
MEAN, THERE ARE
REPUBLICANS
%-ALL OVER
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN%-AND
ALL OVER THE
COUNTRY
THAT
%-INSTEAD
OF
TELLING PEOPLE
THE
%-TRUTH, THEY
LINE
UP
BEHIND THE
%--- YOU
KNOW,
THE
ONE-TERM
%-PRESIDENT.
%-SO
IT'S
HORRIBLE.%->>
YOU
WRITE
THAT
IN
FACT,
%-THOUGH,
THAT
JOHNSON WAS
%-UNCONCERNED
ABOUT
ALL
OF
THAT.
%-HOW
SO?
%->> WELL,
HE
SAID
THAT
THE
%-BIGGEST
THING
WAS,
YOU
KNOW,
THE
%-PILLARS
OF
OUR
DEMOCRACY
ARE
%-STRONG ENOUGH
TO
WITHSTAND THIS.
%-AND, I
MEAN,
I
GET IT.
%-THE
PILLARS
OF
OUR
DEMOCRACY
ARE
%-VERY STRONG
AND WE
ARE
LUCKY
FOR
%-THEM.
%-BUT RON
JOHNSON
IS
PART
OF THAT%-PILLAR
OF
OUR
DEMOCRACY,
THE%-UNITED STATES
SENATE, THE
HOUSE,
%-CONGRESS.%-THAT IS
ONE OF
THE
PILLARS
OF
%-OUR
DEMOCRACY.
%-AND
IT'S UP TO
THEM TO
BE
ABLE
%-TO
STAND
UP
TO
WHEN
THEY
NEED TO
%-BE
STOOD UP TO
AND
THEY'RE
%-FAILING
IN
THAT
MISERABLY.%->>
SO
SENATOR
JOHNSON
DECLINED%-TO
BE ON
THE
PROGRAM,
BUT
SAID
I%-HAVE
BEEN
VERY
CONSISTENT
IN
%-BOTH
PUBLIC
AND
PRIVATE
%-STATEMENTS THAT I
BELIEVE THERE
%-ARE
WAY TOO
MANY
IRREGULARITIES
%-AND SUSPECT ISSUES
THAT
NEED TO
%-BE
INVESTIGATED
AND
PUBLICLY
%-VETTED
BEFORE A FINAL
RESULT
IS
%-DETERMINED
AND A
PEACEFUL
%-TRANSITION OF
POWER
TAKES
PLACE.
%-THE
ARTICLE, THE ONE
THAT
YOU
%-WROTE,
HE
SAYS, SHOULD
BE
VIEWED
%-AS
THE
POLITICAL HIT
PIECE IT
IS
%-AND
SIMPLY
IGNORED.
%-SO WHAT
IS
YOUR
RESPONSE TO
HIS
%-STATEMENT
?
%->> YOU
KNOW
,
I
WISH
HE
WOULD
%-TELL ME
--
I
WISH
HE
WOULD
TELL
%-THE PUBLIC
WHAT HE
TOLD
ME IN
%-PERSON.
%-YES, HE WAS
CONSISTENT ABOUT
HE
%-THINKS
THERE'S
IRREGULARITIES,
%-BUT HE
ALSO
SAID
THAT
HE
%-UNDERSTANDS THAT
IT WASN'T
%-ENOUGH
TO
OVERTURN
THE
RESULT
OF
%-THIS
VOTE.
%-HE
SAID THE
SAME
THING
THAT
%-WILLIAM
BARR, DONALD
TRUMP'S
OWN
%-ATTORNEY GENERAL
SAID.
%-SO, I
MEAN, YOU KNOW
ON,
IF
HE
%-THINKS
THAT
THIS SHOULD
BE
%-IGNORED, THAT'S
FINE,
YOU
CAN
%-IGNORE
IT,
BUT
WHY
DON'T
YOU%-IGNORE THE PEOPLE IN
THE
TRUMP
%-ADMINISTRATION THAT ARE SAYING
%-THE SAME
THING?
%-IF YOU WANT
TO
IGNORE MY
PIECE,
%-THAT'S
FINE,
BUT
WHY
DON'T
WE
%-PAY ATTENTION TO
THE
REPUBLICAN%-ELECTION
OFFICIALS
IN
%-BATTLEGROUND STATES
THAT
ARE
%-SAYING
THAT
THIS
VOTE WAS
%-SECURE, IT
WAS
OVER
AND JOE
%-BIDEN
WON,
FULL
STOP.
%-SO I
WISH
RON
WOULD
SAY
THAT.%->>
JUST
VERY
BRIEFLY, WHAT
KIND
%-OF
REACTION HAVE YOU BEEN%-GETTING FROM
YOUR
ARTICLE?
%->> I
MEAN,
IT'S
BEEN
POSITIVE.
%-I'VE
BEEN
ENCOURAGED BY
SOME OF
%-THE PEOPLE THAT
I
KNOW
THAT
ARE
%-REPUBLICAN
OPERATIVES
AND
%-REPUBLICAN OFFICE
HOLDERS WHO
%-HAVE SENT
ME
MESSAGES AND
SAID,
%-YOU
KNOW, GOOD
JOB, THANK
YOU,
%-BECAUSE,
I
MEAN, THIS IS A
%-TURNING
POINT
AND THIS
IS A
%-DECIDING POINT FOR
THE
%-REPUBLICAN PARTY ON
WHERE DO
%-THEY
WANT TO
GO NOW.
%-YOU
KNOW,
THEY
LOST
THE
%-PRESIDENCY AND
IT'S UP
TO
THEM
%-IN THESE
CONVERSATIONS
IN
THESE
%-VERY
PIVOTAL
MOMENTS
TO
FIGURE
%-OUT
WHAT
THE
FUTURE IS
GOING
TO
%-LOOK
LIKE
FOR THEIR PARTY.
%-AND RIGHT
NOW
THEY'RE NOT
DOING
%-THE RIGHT THING.%->> ALL RIGHT.
%-MARK
BECKER, WE NEED
TO
LEAVE IT
%-THERE.
%-THANKS VERY
MUCH
AND THANK YOU
%-FOR
JOINING
US.
%->>
THANK
YOU SO
MUCH.%->>
HOW
DO
OTHER
CONGRESSIONAL
%-REPUBLICANS SQUARE
THE
%-PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
RESULTS?
%-AND WHAT
ABOUT
COVID
RELIEF OUT%-OF
WASHINGTON?
%-WE
TURN
TO
U.S.
REPRESENTATIVE%-TOM TIFFANY FROM
THE
7TH
%-CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
IN
%-NORTHWEST WISCONSIN.
%-HE JOINS
US
FROM
WASHINGTON
AND
%-THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
DOING
SO.
%->>
GOOD TO BE
HERE,
FREDERICA.
%->>
SO
SENATOR JOHNSON
TOLD A
%-CONSTITUENT HE
KNEW
THAT JOE
%-BIDEN HAD
WON
BUT
HE
SAID IT
%-WOULD
BE
PLAT
POLITICAL SUICIDE
TO
%-SAY SO
PUBLICLY.
%-WHAT DO
YOU
SAY
PLUCKILY?
%->>
I
DID
NOT
SEE
SENATOR'S
%-JOHNSONS
SO I
CAN'T
COMMENT
ON
%-HIS
RACKS,
BUT
IT'S
ALL
PART OF
%-THE PROCESS AT
THIS
POINT.
%-WHEN YOU
LOOK
AT
PENNSYLVANIA
%-AND
GEORGIA,
THERE'S
QUESTIONS
%-WHETHER BALLOTS
CAME
OUT
AT A
%-VERY LATE
HOUR
AND
WERE
COUNTED
%-THAT PERHAPS
SHOULD NOT
HAVE.
%-PENNSYLVANIA
HAS A
VERY
%-PROBLEMATIC SITUATION
WHERE
THEY
%-COUNTED
BALLOTS AFTER
THE
%-ELECTION
DAY
AND
THAT
CLEARLY
%-VIOLATES THE
LAW
IN
%-PENNSYLVANIA.
%-SO I
THINK
THERE'S
CERTAINLY
%-ANOMALIES OUT THERE
AND
THE
%-PROCESS SHOULD BE
WORKED THROUGH
%-HERE.%->>
SO
AT
THIS
JUNCTURE YOU'RE
%-NOT READY
TO
SAY
THAT JOE BIDEN
%-IS
PRESIDENT-ELECT?%->> NO.
%-NOT UNTIL
THE
PROCESS IS
%-COMPLETED
AND
THE
ELECTORAL --
I
%-MEAN, WHO ESTABLISHES
THE
NEXT
%-PRESIDENT IS
THE
ELECTORAL
%-COLLEGE.%-THEY HAVE
NOT
MET
YET
AND WE
%-HAVE NOT
COMPLETED
THAT
PROCESS.%->>
SO,
AS
YOU
KNOW,
AND
WE'RE
%-KIND OF
DISCUSSING
THIS,
THE
%-TRUMP
CAMPAIGN
LAWSUITS
ALLEGING
%-FRAUD
AND
ELECTION
%-IRREGULARITIES HAVE
FALLEN%-ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
%-THEY CONTINUE
WENDING THEIR
WAY
%-THROUGH WISCONSIN
COURTS
RIGHT
%-NOW.%-IS IT
YOUR
POSITION
THAT
THE
%-ELECTION
WAS
RIGGED,
AS
THE
%-PRESIDENT
SAYS,
OR
RIFE WITH
%-FRAUD AND
OUGHT TO BE
CHALLENGED
%-IN
THIS
WAY
IN
WISCONSIN?%->>
I
USED
THE
TERM
ANOMALIES
%-EARLIER.
%-AND
THAT
CLEARLY
HAPPENED AT A
%-MINIMUM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
%-WHEN YOU
SEE
WINDOWS THAT ARE
%-BOARDED
UP, I
BELIEVE THAT WAS
%-IN
PHILADELPHIA, POLL
WATCHERS%-BEING
TOSSED OUT
OF
BEING
ABLE
%-TO DO
THEIR
JOB,
OF
BEING
ABLE
%-TO
REVIEW
BALLOTS,
THERE'S
%-CERTAINLY
CONCERNS THAT ARE
%-THERE.
%-I THINK THE
BIGGER
ISSUE
FOR
ME,
%-THOUGH, I
THINK
IT'S
TWOFOLD.
%-ONE IS
THIS
ACCEPTING
BALLOTS
%-AFTER
ELECTION
DAY
I DO
NOT
%-BELIEVE SHOULD HAPPEN.
%-THE SECOND THING
IS
MAIL-IN
%-BALLOTS, WHICH
ARE
DIFFERENT%-THAN
THE
ABSENTEE
SYSTEM HERE IN
%-WISCONSIN.
%-MAIL-IN
BALLOTS, I BELIEVE THAT
%-THAT
NEEDS TO BE
ENDED
ALSO
%-BECAUSE
AS
PRESIDENT
CARTER SAID
%-WHEN HE
WAS
COCHAIRMAN
OF A
%-COMMISSION
15 YEARS
AGO, IT
%-LEAVES
THE
POSSIBILITY
FOR
FRAUD%-TO BE
MUCH
MORE
RAMPANT.%->>
MAIL-IN
BALLOTS, ABSENTEE
%-BALLOTS
ARE
OFTEN
MAILED
IN
IF%-THEY
ARE NOT
DROPPED
IN
DROP
%-BOXES.%->> YEAH.
%-THAT'S RIGHT.
%-SO
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
%-I THINK
WISCONSIN'S ABSENTEE
%-SYSTEM WORKS BECAUSE YOU
HAVE
TO
%-REQUEST IT.
%-THE DIFFERENCE I
SEE
IS
WHEN
YOU
%-MAIL BALLOTS TO
EVERYONE.
%-THAT'S
WHAT
PRESIDENT
CARTER AND
%-THE
COMMISSION
HE
CO-CHAIRED%-TALKED
ABOUT,
IS IT
LEAVES
THE
%-POSSIBILITY
FOR
FRAUD TO BE
%-GREATER
IN
THAT
SITUATION.
%-THERE'S A
DIFFERENCE.%->> ALL
OF
THIS
DISCUSSION
OF
%-FRAUD
AND
IRREGULAR
LAIRTSZ, DO%-YOU THINK
IT
DOES
DAMAGE TO THE
%-CONFIDENCE OF THE
U.S.
ELECTORAL
%-SYSTEM?%->>
I
THINK
POSSIBLY
IT
COULD.
%-BUT
I
THINK
IT'S
ALSO
HEALTHY%-FOR US
TO
REVIEW OUR
%-INSTITUTIONS.%-AND
IF THERE'S
ONE
THING
THAT I
%-BELIEVE
ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP, EVER
%-SINCE
HE
CAME
DOWN
THAT
%-ESCALATOR AND
ANNOUNCED HE WAS
%-GOING
TO
RUN
FIVE
YEARS
AGO,
HE%-HAS
LIFTED
THE
LID
ON
%-INSTITUTIONS THAT
WE'VE
ALWAYS
%-HAD
GREAT
FAITH
IN
THIS
%-COUNTRY,
INCLUDING LIKE
THE
FBI,
%-THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
%-AND
WE'VE
FOUND
THAT
THERE'S
%-SOME
ROT
IN
THERE
THAT
NEEDS TO%-BE
CLEANED
UP.
%-AND I
THINK
THAT THERE ARE
SOME
%-INSTANCES
WHERE
OUR
ELECTION
%-SYSTEM CAN
DO
BETTER, AND
I
%-THINK
HE'S
HIGHLIGHTING
THAT,%-AND
I
THINK
THAT'S
HEALTHY FOR
%-OUR
COUNTRY.%->>
AS
TO
ELECTED
OFFICIALS
DOING%-WORK IN
WASHINGTON,
THERE'S A
%-COVID
RELIEF
PACKAGE ON THE
%-TABLE, SOMETHING
SHY
OF
$1
%-TRILLION.
%-WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE
IN
THAT
%-SPECIFICALLY AND
WHAT DO YOU
%-THINK WISCONSIN NEEDS TO
TAKE
%-FROM
THAT?
%->>
THERE'S TWO THINGS
THAT I
%-BELIEVE SHOULD BE IN THERE.
%-ONE
IS
LIABILITY
PROTECTIONS.
%-AND THE
OTHER
ONE
IS
TO
HAVE
%-TARGETED
RELIEF
FOR
-- FOR
%-EXAMPLE,
WE'VE
BEEN
PROMOTING
%-FOR THREE MONTHS TO
DO
THE
%-PAYCHECK
PROTECTION
EXTENSION%-PLAN
AUTHORED
BY
REPRESENTATIVE%-OUT OF OHIO.
%-SPEAKER
PELOSI
REFUSES
TO
TAKE
%-THAT BILL
UP.
%-IT TARGETS
RELIEF
TOWARD
SOME
%-BUSINESS
SECTORS
THAT
REALLY
%-NEED
HELP,
ESPECIALLY
%-HOSPITALITY,
HOTELS,
%-RESTAURANTS.
%-SOME OF
THEM
ARE
REALLY
IN
DIRE
%-SHAPE.
%-AND THERE
IS A
PLAN
THERE TO BE
%-ABLE
TO
PASS
THAT.
%-ONCE AGAIN
NOW
THIS
WEEK,
WE
SAW
%-NOTHING HAPPENED
UNDER
THE
%-LEADER
ER
SHIP
OF
SPEAKER
%-PELOSI.
%-WE
HAD A
BILL
IN
REGARDS
TO
%-TIGERS
AND
LEGALIZING
MARIJUANA.
%-NOTHING TO GET
RELIEF
FOR
THOSE
%-BUSINESSES THAT HAVE
BEEN
HURT
%-BECAUSE OF
LOCKDOWNS
THROUGH NO%-FAULT
OF
THEIR
OWN.%->>
WE
LOOK
FORWARD TO
SOME
%-POTENTIAL ACTION ON
THAT
NEXT
%-WEEK.
%-BUT
REPRESENTATIVE TOM
TIFFANY,%-THANK YOU VERY
MUCH FOR
JOINING
%-US FROM
WASHINGTON.%->>
GOOD TO
BE WITH
YOU,
%-FREDERICA.%->>
TURNING
TO
THE
OTHER
SIDE OF
%-THE
AISLE,
AMONG
THE
WISCONSIN
%-CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION,
WITH
%-DEMOCRATIC
U.S.
REPRESENTATIVE%-MARK POCAN
FROM
THE
2nd
%-CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
%-HE JOINS
US
FROM
MADISON
AND
%-THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.%->> THANK
YOU,
FREDERICA.%-GLAD TO BE
HERE.%->>
SO
LOTS
TO
TOUCH
O.
FIRST,
%-YOUR REACTION
TO
THE
LAWSUITS
%-FILED
BY
THE
TRUMP
CAMPAIGN AND
%-HIS
ALLIES
IN
WISCONSIN
%-CHALLENGING THE RESULTS
HERE.
%->>
YEAH.
%-IF HE
WANTS
TO
DONATE $3 MILLION
%-TO THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, WE'LL
%-GO
THROUGH A FEW
HOOPS
FOR
HIM.
%-BUT
THEY'RE
NOT
GOING TO GO
%-ANYWHERE.
%-EVEN SCOTT
WALKER
SAID
THE
WAY
%-WE RUN
OUR
ELECTIONS IN
%-WISCONSIN,
YOU'RE NOT
GOING
TO
%-FIND A WAY
TO
OVERTURN
THAT
MANY
%-VOTES.
%-BUT
IF THIS
IS
WHAT DONALD
TRUMP
%-NEEDS TO
UPHOLD
HIS
FRAIL
EGO
IN
%-THE FINAL
WEEKS
THAT
HE'S
IN
%-OFFICE, WE'LL
TAKE THE
MONEY.%->>
NOW
OUR
STATE
LEGISLATURE
%-WILL HOLD
INVESTIGATIVE HEARINGS%-AS
WE'VE
SEEN
IN
OTHER
STATES
N.
%-YOUR
MIND,
DOES
THIS
HELP
TO
AIR
%-DOUBT
ERS'
CONCERNS?
%->>
AGAIN, YOU'RE
DEALING
WITH
%-SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T WANT
TO
GIVE
%-UP AFTER
THEY'VE
LOST
THE
%-ELECTION
AND
SOMEHOW
REPUBLICANS
%-ARE STILL PART
OF
THIS
CULT
%-UNTIL HE
OFFICIALLY STEPS
DOWN
%-AND THEY HAVE
TO
DO
WHATEVER
HE
%-REQUIRES.
%-I WISH
THAT THEY WOULD
TAKE
THIS
%-TIME
AND
DO
HEARINGS ABOUT
%-COVID,
ABOUT
WHAT SMALL
%-BUSINESSES NEED RIGHT
NOW
AND
%-PEOPLE WHO ARE
UNEMPLOYED,
WHAT%-WE NEED TO
DO
WITH
CONTACT
%-TRACERS, ABOUT
TESTING
IN
SENIOR%-LIVING SITUATIONS IN
PLACES
LIKE
%-WISCONSIN.
%-BUT
THEY
HAVEN'T MET FOR
OVER%-SIX
MONTHS TO
DEAL
WITH
ANY
OF
%-THAT AND
NOW
THEY'RE
GOING
TO
DO%-A HEARING
ON
SOMETHING THAT IS
%-JUST TO
MAKE
THE
PRESIDENT FEEL
%-BETTER.
%-NOT
EXACTLY
THE
LEGISLATURE I
%-REMEMBER.%->>
FROM
YOUR
PERSPECTIVE,
HAS
%-THIS DELAY
AND
THE
ALLEGATIONS
%-OF
FRAUD
DEFLATED
DEMOCRATS'
%-EXCITEMENT OVER THE
RESULTS?%->> NO.
%-THIS
IS
ALL
DONE
LARGELY
FOR AN
%-AUDIENCE OF
ONE, DONALD TRUMP.
%-YOU'RE
FINDING
EVERY
DAY
MORE
%-AND
MORE
MAJOR
REPUBLICANS COME
%-OUT
AND
SAY JOE
BIDEN
WON
THE
%-ELECTION
BY A QUITE
SIZABLE
%-MARGIN
BY
PRESIDENTIAL
%-ELECTIONS.
%-UP
TO
THIS
POINT
ALL
THESE
%-ACTIONS ARE
TO
MAKE
THE
%-PRESIDENT FEEL
BETTER.
%-COVID IS
KILLING
THOUSANDS OF
%-PEOPLE A
DAY ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
%-WISCONSIN
HAS A
COVID
EPIDEMIC.
%-WE
SHOULD
BE
FOCUSING ON
COVID
%-AND
INSTEAD
WE'RE
FOLLOWING
%-THESE
LITTLE RABBIT
HOLES
THAT
%-THE PRESIDENT
CAN
FEEL
BETTER.
%-IT'S
JUST A SIGN OF
THE
TIMES
OF
%-HOW TOUGH
THE
POLITICAL
%-ENVIRONMENT IS
RIGHT
NOW,
%-FREDERICA.%->> THERE
IS
SOME
WORK
GOING
ON
%-TOWARDS COVID
RELIEF OUT
OF
%-WASHINGTON,
INCLUDING
DESCRIBE
%-HOW URGENT THIS IS
FOR
YOUR
%-CONSTITUENTS.%->> IT'S THE
HIGHEST.
%-THERE'S NO QUESTION.
%-ANYONE
WHO'S
AN
ELECTED OFFICIAL
%-WHO'S NOT
SPENDING
ALMOST ALL
OF
%-THEIR TIME AND
EFFORT ON
COVID
%-ISN'T
DOING
THEIR
JOB.
%-THAT'S WHAT
I'VE
BEEN
TRYING TO
%-DO, WHETHER IT'S
PUSHING THE
%-LEGISLATURE TO
MEET
AND
SUPPORT
%-THE MASK
AND
OCCUPANCY
ORDERS,
%-TRYING TO GET THE
STATE
TO
HIRE
%-MORE CONTACT
TRACERS.
%-WE'RE
SIGNIFICANTLY DOWN.
%-AN IMPORTANT PART
OF
TESTING,
%-TRACING AND
ISOLATION.
%-MISSING
THOSE
IS A CRUCIAL PART
%-OF WHAT WE HAVE
TO
DO.
%-AND
MAKING SURE
WE'RE
TESTING
IN
%-OUR
SENIOR
CENTERS MUCH
BETTER,
%-NURSING
HOMES
AND
ASSISTED
%-LIVING
CENTERS.
%-WE'RE
SEEING LARGE
INCREASES IN
%-DEATHS IN
THOSE
FACILITIES.
%-MY
JOB SHOULD
BE TO
GET
THAT
%-FEDERAL BILL
DONE,
WHICH
I
THINK
%-WE'RE GOING TO
DO NEXT
WEEK, TO
%-GET
ASSISTANCE
TO SMALL
BUSINESS
%-OWNERS
AND PEOPLE WHO
ARE
%-UNEMPLOYED AND
OUR
FRONT
LINE
%-WORKERS AND STATE
AND
LOCAL
%-GOVERNMENTS DOING THE WORK.
%-BUT IF
YOU'RE
NOT
OBSESSED
BY
%-COVID
AS
AN
ELECTED
OFFICIAL,
%-YOU SHOULDN'T
BE
AN
ELECTED
%-OFFICIAL RIGHT
NOW.%->>
WHAT
LEVEL
OF
AID,
WHAT
KIND
%-OF
SPENDING DO YOU
SUPPORT IN
%-ANY FEDERAL
PACKAGE?
%->> WELL,
IT
LOOKS
LIKE
WE'RE
%-GOING TO
HAVE A
TRIMMED-DOWN
%-PACKAGE,
BUT
HAVING
PRESIDENT
%-BIDEN
TAKING OFFICE
ON
%-JANUARY 20,
THAT
WILL
GIVE
US
%-ANOTHER CHANCE TO
DO
MORE
WORK.
%-SMALL
BUSINESS OWNERS ARE
%-HURTING
BADLY,
RESTAURANTS,
%-BARS,
TOURISM, OTHER
INDUSTRIES.
%-THAT'S
CAUSING
LAYOFFS
AND
%-PEOPLE
UNEMPLOYED
AT NO FAULT
OF%-THEIR OWN.
%-WE'RE
WATCHING FRONT
LINE
%-WORKERS
EXHAUSTED FROM
TRYING
TO%-DEAL
WITH
THE
COVID
CASES
AND
%-YET
WE
STILL
HAVE A
PRESIDENT%-TELLING PEOPLE
YOU
DON'T
HAVE
TO
%-WEAR A
MASK,
WHICH
IS
%-RIDICULOUS.%-WE
NEED
TO
CURTAIL
THOSE
CASES
%-TO RELIEVE THE
PRESSURE
ON
OUR
%-HOSPITALS AND
FRONT
LINE
%-WORKERS.
%-WE
NEED
MORE
RESOURCES
THAN
THIS
%-BILL WILL
HAVE, BUT
IT'S A
%-TEMPORARY FIX
RIGHT
NOW.
%->> GOVERNOR EVERS
WANTS
PRIORITY
%-ON
VACCINES GIVEN
THAT HE
SAYS
%-THAT
STATEWIDE
MITIGATION
%-EFFORTS HAVE BEEN BLOCKED
IN
%-WISCONSIN.
%-DO YOU
THINK
DHS
SECRETARIAL%-LEKS
AZAR
WILL
GO FOR
GIVING
%-WISCONSIN
PRIORITY ON
VACCINES?%->>
I
THINK
THEY'RE
GOING
TO DO
%-IT
BY
DEMOGRAPHICS
AND
%-POPULATION AS THEY
SHOULD.
%-FRONT
LINE
WORKERS SHOULD BE THE
%-VERY FIRST TO
GET
ANY
VACCINES.
%-THOSE
IN
RISK
CATEGORIES NEED TO
%-GET IT NEXT.
%-BUT THERE
ARE
THINGS WE CAN
DO
%-IN WISCONSIN SHORT OF THIS
THAT
%-WE'RE NOT
DOING,
INCLUDING
%-GETTING
MORE CONTACT
TRACERS,%-HAVING
MORE
AGGRESSIVE
TESTING
%-IN ASSISTED LIVING CENTERS
AND
%-IN
VERIFYING WHAT'S HAPPENING
IN
%-THE
NURSING
HOMES.
%-SO
I
HOPE WE CAN
DO
ALL
OF THIS%-AT THE SAME TIME.
%-I THINK
THE
LEGISLATURE CAN
MEET
%-AND PASS
SOME OF
THE
IMPORTANT
%-PROVISIONS THE
GOVERNOR
HAS
PUT%-OUT OF
THERE.
%-THE STATE
HAS TO
STEP UP
AND
DO
%-THINGS THEY CAN
DO
WITHOUT
%-LEGISLATIVE WORK
OR
FEDERAL
%-ASSISTANCE.
%-IF WE DO
THAT
AND
GET
OUR
BILL
%-OUT
NEXT
WEEK
AND
THEN
HAVE A
%-GOOD PLAN TO GET
THE
VACCINES
%-OUT TO
PEOPLE WHO
NEED
IT
THE
%-MOST, I
THINK
WE'LL
AT
LEAST
BE
%-DOING THE
JOB
THAT WE
HAVE
TO
DO
%-TO KEEP
PEOPLE
AS
SAFE AS
%-POSSIBLE.%->> WE
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
%-REPRESENTATIVE MARK
POCAN, THANK
%-YOU VERY MUCH.%->>
SURE.
%-THANK
YOU,
FREDERICA.%->> AND
FINALLY
TONIGHT, FROM
OUR
%-PARTNERS
AT
WISCONTEXT.
%-THE
PANDEMIC HAS
CONTINUED FOR
%-ABOUT
TEN
MONTHS
NOW, BUT
THE
%-RATE
OF
NEW
COVID-19
CASES
IN
%-DIFFERENT
PLACES
AROUND
%-WISCONSIN HAS
EBBED
AND
FLOWED
%-OVER
THAT
TIME.%->>
CHARTS
CREATED
BY
WISCONTEXT
%-SHOW A TIME LINE
OF
HOW
THE
RATE
%-OF CORONAVIRUS
CASES
GREW
IN
ALL
%-72 WISCONSIN
COUNTIES
ON A
%-DAY-BY-DAY
BASIS.
%-STARTING
IN
LATE
MARCH,
WHEN
%-MULTIPLE
CASES
FIRST
STARTED
%-BEING
REPORTED,
THESE
GRAPHICS
%-ILLUSTRATE
THE
INITIAL SPRING
%-WAVE, THE
MID-SUMMER SPIKE
AND
%-THE
SUSTAINED AUTUMN
SURGE.
%-ONE GRAPHIC
BREAKS
IT
DOWN
BY
%-COUNTY POPULATION AND
ANOTHER
BY
%-THEIR
CENSUS
DATA
AS
URBAN,
%-RURAL OR
IN
BETWEEN.
%-A
GRAPHIC
SHOWING THE
COURSE
BY
%-AGE
IS
SIMILAR TO THE
FIRST
TWO.
%-ONE
LOOKS AT
GEE
GEOGRAPHIC
%-PATTERNS.
%-ALL
OF
THESE
CHARTS
ARE
%-AVAILABLE
AT
wiscontext.org.
%->>
AND THAT
IS
OUR
PROGRAM FOR
%-TONIGHT.
%-I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
%-HAVE A
GOOD
WEEKEND.
%->>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND NOW"
IS
%-PROVIDED BY
THE
FOCUS
FUND
FOR
%-JOURNALISM
AND
FRIENDS
OF PBS
%-WISCONSIN.