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The ICE surge is

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ending in Minnesota.

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So how would you grade

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the overall operation?

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Making mention here

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of course, of the two

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U.S. citizens killed by agents

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in the midst of it.

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Yeah, both obviously

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very unfortunate incidents.

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I think it did show that

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the idea that

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if you were going to go into

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any community

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in the United States

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and you were going

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to receive resistance

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from local law enforcement

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or if there was going

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to be kind of this

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this situation where

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ICE was

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not really operating

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under the idea

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that they were going

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to be able to go in

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and apprehend people

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using some type

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of detain order

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then what you would end up with

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is this back and forth

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in the streets and

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and certainly

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that wasn't productive.

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So, you know

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unfortunately

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the border was open

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for four years

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under the Biden administration

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and one of the things

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that President Trump ran on

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was that

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he was going to apprehend

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those that had

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criminal records

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and deport them.

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And, you know

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but how that

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was going to be

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accomplished

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has varied from state to state.