% >>> WELCOME TO "NOON WEDNESDAY,"
% I'M MARISA WOJCIK, MULL EVER
% MULTIMEDIA JOURNALIST, AND TODAY
% IS SEPTEMBER 29.
% RECENTLY RELEASED ON POVERTY IN
% THE PANDEMIC SHEDS LIGHT ON HOW
% THE IMPACT OF SAFETY NET
% PROGRAMS AND HOW SOME LAWMAKERS
% ARE SHAPING FUTURE POLICIES.
% JOINING ME TODAY TO DISCUSS THIS
% FURTHER IS TAMARINE CORNELIUS,
% RESEARCH ANALYST FOR CHILDREN'S
% ADVOCACY NONPROFIT, KIDS
% FORWARD, AND TAMARINE, THANK YOU
% SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
% >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
% >> SO, TO START, THE CENSUS
% BUREAU REPORTS THAT EVEN DURING
% THIS VOLATILE ECONOMIC TIME, THE
% STIMULUS CHECKS, FOR EXAMPLE,
% SENT TO PEOPLE DURING 2020
% BROUGHT 11.7 MILLION PEOPLE OUT
% OF POVERTY NATIONWIDE.
% SO DO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING
% OF WHAT THAT TRANSLATES TO IN
% WISCONSIN?
% >> SO THE CENSUS BUREAU JUST
% RELEASED SOME NEW NUMBERS ON
% POVERTY NATIONWIDE.
% THIS PARTICULAR DATA RELEASE
% DOESN'T HAVE GOOD STATEWIDE
% NUMBERS BECAUSE OF THE SIZE OF
% THE SURVEY, BUT WE STILL KNOW
% WHAT THE NATIONAL NUMBERS LOOK
% LIKE, AND THERE'S NO REASON TO
% THINK THAT WISCONSIN WOULD LOOK
% DIFFERENT IN TRENDS THAN THE
% NATIONAL TREND, AND SO THE
% NATIONAL TREND IS THAT THE%
% VIGOROUS AND EXTENSIVE
% GOVERNMENT SUPPORT THAT WAS
% PROVIDED IN 2020 TO CUSHION THE
% WORST ECONOMIC EFFECTS OF THE
% PANDEMIC MADE A REALLY
% SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN
% PEOPLE'S LIVES AND WELL BEING.
% WHAT THE NUMBERS SHOW IS THAT
% GOVERNMENT AIDE, INCLUDING
% THINGS LIKE THE STIMULUS CHECKS
% AND REFUNDABLE CREDITS AND SNAP
% AND HOUSING ASSISTANCE, THEY
% LIFTED 53 MILLION PEOPLE OUT OF
% POVERTY LAST YEAR, AND, IN FACT,
% WHEN YOU COUNT THESE TYPES OF
% GOVERNMENT SUPPORT THAT WERE PUT
% IN PLACE DURING THE PANDEMIC,
% THE POVERTY RATE ACTUALLY
% DECREASED FROM 2019 TO 2020.
% IF YOU DON'T COUNT ALL OF THAT
% AIDE, THEN THE POVERTY RATE
% REALLY INCREASED, AND, YOU KNOW,
% WHAT THIS IS SHOWING IS THAT
% THESE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS
% THAT THE GOVERNMENT MADE LIFTED
% PEOPLE UP OUT OF POVERTY.
% >> SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS
% TECHNICALLY THE NUMBERS DO SHOW,
% IN SOME WAYS, THAT POVERTY
% INCREASED, BUT THOSE RATES DON'T
% REFLECT AIDE INCLUDED FROM THE
% TEMPORARY GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS
% ENACTED IN THE WAKE OF THE
% PANDEMIC, SO OVERALL, MILLIONS
% WERE LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY WHEN
% THOSE PROGRAMS WERE FACTORED IN,
% IS THAT RIGHT?
% >> RIGHT.
% THE OFFICIAL POVERTY MEASURE,
% WHICH IS PRETTY FLAWED, IT
% DOESN'T COUNT A LOT OF TYPES OF
% GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE, AND SO IN
% 2020, THAT MEANT IT WAS, YOU
% KNOW, ALMOST IRRELEVANT BECAUSE
% IT DIDN'T -- IT -- OR LESS
% RELEVANT BECAUSE IT DIDN'T COUNT
% THESE VERY IMPORTANT LIFELINES
% FOR FAMILIES, SO WHEN WE DO
% INCLUDE THOSE, THERE'S AN
% ALTERNATE WAYS OF MEASURING
% POVERTY THAT INCLUDES THOSE, AND
% WHEN WE DO INCLUDE THOSE, WE CAN
% SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT
% TRANSLATED, AND SO YOU MENTIONED
% THAT BETWEEN 11 MILLION AND
% 12 MILLION PEOPLE WERE LIFTED
% OUT OF POVERTY THROUGH THE
% STIMULUS TAX, AND ANOTHER
% 5 MILLION TO 6 MILLION PEOPLE
% LIFTED OUT OF POVERTY BASED ON
% UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, SO THOSE
% POLICIES THAT WERE PUT IN PLACE
% IN 2020 TRANSLATED INTO, YOU
% KNOW, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE DOING
% BETTER LAST YEAR.
% >> AND ADDITIONALLY, HUNGER DID
% NOT RISE IN 2020, WHICH SOME SAY
% IS ANOTHER MARKER.
% SO ALL OF THIS SEEMS TO IMPLY
% THAT THESE SHORT TERM SAFETY NET
% PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE NOW
% EXPIRING, WERE EFFECTIVE FOR
% THEIR PURPOSES OF KEEPING THE
% ECONOMY STABLE, SO NOW DEMOCRATS
% IN CONGRESS ARE CURRENTLY TRYING
% TO PASS PERMANENT VERSIONS OF
% THESE PROGRAMS.
% DO THESE PERMANENT PROGRAMS MAKE
% SENSE GIVEN THAT EVEN JUST FOR
% ONE YEAR, THEY HAD TRILLIONS OF
% DOLLARS IN PRICE TAGS?
% >> LET ME ACTUALLY GO BACK ONE
% SECOND FIRST AND THEN ANSWER
% THIS QUESTION, WHICH IS THE
% OTHER POINT I WANT TO MAKE ABOUT
% THESE POVERTY RATES IS THEY ARE
% ONE ANNUAL FIGURE, AND THEY DO
% NOT REFLECT THE ROLLERCOASTER OF
% A YEAR THAT A LOT OF FAMILIES
% HAD.
% YOU KNOW, WAITING MAYBE MONTHS
% TO SEE IF THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT
% CHECKS WOULD CLEAR OR IF THEIR
% STIMULUS CHECKS WERE GOING TO
% COME.
% THAT'S NOT TO SAY THERE WAS NOT
% HARDSHIP.%THERE WAS A LOT OF
HARDSHIP IN
% 2020.
% THE OTHER THING IS THAT EVEN
% THOUGH THE GOVERNMENT SUPPORT
% LIFTED A LOT OF FAMILIES OUT OF
% POVERTY, WE STILL HAVE MUCH
% HIGHER RATES OF POVERTY FOR
% BLACK AND LATINO FAMILIES DUE TO
% HISTORIC AND CURRENT
% DISCRIMINATION IN OUR WORKPLACES
% AND OUR SCHOOLS AND OUR
% COMMUNITIES ALSO.
% FOR THE QUESTION, YOU KNOW, DOES
% THE PRICE TAG MAKE SENSE?
% IS IT WORTH IT, BASICALLY, AS WE
% GO FORWARD, TO TRY TO MAKE SOME
% OF THESE POLICIES PERMANENT.
% SO I THINK THERE'S TWO ANSWERS
% TO THAT.
% ONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE
% LOOK FOR OFFSETS TO LOWER THE
% COSTS?
% SO IN THE BUILD BACK BETTER
% PACKAGE, WHICH IS BEFORE
% CONGRESS RIGHT NOW, AND THIS IS
% A PACKAGE OF INVESTMENTS IN THE
% WORK FORCE AND IN OUR SCHOOLS
% AND COMMUNITIES AND FAMILIES,
% AND IT INCLUDES, FOR EXAMPLE, A
% LONG-TERM EXTENSION OF THE
% EXPANDED CHILD TAX CREDIT THAT
% MANY OF US ARE BENEFITING FROM
% RIGHT NOW.
% THAT PACKAGE WOULDN'T ADD TO THE
% DEFICIT VERY MUCH, EVEN THOUGH
% IT IS VERY SIGNIFICANT, BECAUSE
% IT ALSO INCLUDES THINGS THAT
% REDUCE THE COSTS BY INCREASING
% TAXES ON THE VERY WEALTH AND
% PROFITABLE CORPORATIONS, ASKING
% THEM TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE IN
% TAXES.
% THAT'S A WAY TO LOWER THE COST,
% BUT I THINK THE BIGGER ANSWER TO
% THE QUESTION, IS IT WORTH IT,
% IS, YOU KNOW, HOW CAN WE NOT DO
% IT ALMOST?
% BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT GROWING --
% THESE -- ESPECIALLY WHEN IT
% COMES TO INVESTMENTS IN
% CHILDREN.
% IF A KID GROWS UP IN POVERTY,
% THAT IS STRESSFUL, AND THAT
% STRESS HAS LONG-TERM EFFECTS ON
% THAT KID'S LIFE, AND IF WE MAKE
% A TARGET INVESTMENT THAT LIFTS
% THAT KID UP OUT OF POVERTY,
% THERE'S A WHOLE HOST OF POSITIVE
% BENEFITS THE KID IS MORE LIKELY
% TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL,
% GET BETTER GRADES, GO TO
% COLLEGE, HOLD DOWN A BETTER
% PAYING JOB AS AN ADULT, BE
% HEALTHY, CONTRIBUTE TO THEIR%
COMMUNITY IN OTHER WAYS, AND SO
% WHEN WE SAY, "IS IT WORTH IT TO
% MAKE THIS INVESTMENT," THE
% INVESTMENT THAT WE MAKE,
% ESPECIALLY IN CHILDREN IN
% LIFTING THEM UP OUT OF POVERTY,
% IT REALLY HAS FABULOUS
% LONG-TERM, POSITIVE RETURNS, AND
% SO IF WE DON'T MAKE THAT, THEN
% WE'RE REALLY CHEATING OURSELF
% OUT OF A BETTER FUTURE.
% >> AND THAT PART ABOUT TAXING
% PEOPLE WHO ARE WEALTHIER, TAXING
% CORPORATIONS, THAT IS
% CONTROVERSIAL AND WHY MANY
% CONSERVATIVES AND REPUBLICANS
% ARE PUSHING BACK AGAINST THAT
% WAY OF BALANCING THAT BUDGET.
% OVERALL, MEDIAN INCOME FELL AS
% MANY JOBS WERE LOST.
% REPUBLICANS, INCOMING WISCONSIN
% LAWMAKERS, ARE ARGUING THAT
% ECONOMIC AIDE AND EXTENSIONS OF
% UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE, FOR
% EXAMPLE, ARE DEINCENTIVIZING
% PEOPLE FROM WORKING, INCLUDING
% NOW, AND IS THAT TRUE, AND CAN
% WE EXPECT INCOME LEVELS TO RISE
% AS JOBS ARE COMING BACK?
% >> SO WE HAVE A NATURAL
% EXPERIMENT HERE BECAUSE SOME
% STATES -- SO DURING THE PANDE
% PANDEMIC, THERE WERE THREE WAYS
% THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT EXPANDED
% UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
% NUMBER ONE, THEY PUT MORE IN
% EACH CHECK SO YOU GOT MORE MONEY
% IN YOUR POCKET.
% THEY ADDED MORE WEEKS, LONGER
% DURATION, AND THEY ALSO EXPANDED
% THE TYPE OF WORKERS WHO COULD
% GET UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.
% MANY -- SOME STATES ENDED THEIR
% EXPANDED BENEFITS EARLY.
% SO RESEARCHERS HAVE LOOKED AT
% STATES THAT ENDED THEIR EXPANDED
% BENEFITS EARLY AND STATES THAT
% DIDN'T END THEIR EXPANDED
% BENEFITS EARLY TO SEE WHAT THE
% DIFFERENCE IS IN TERMS OF
% WHETHER IT MADE A SIGNIFICANT
% DIFFERENCE IN THE LABOR FORCE,
% AND IT MADE ONLY A SMALL
% DIFFERENCE.
% IT WASN'T A SIGNIFICANT -- IT
% WAS NOT THE BIGGEST FACTOR.
% SO I THINK THAT -- AND WE CAN
% SEE THAT IN WISCONSIN BECAUSE
% OUR EXPANDED BENEFITS HAVE ENDED
% NOW AS WELL, AND WE'RE NOT -- I
% DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY
% TRANSLATING TO EMPLOYERS HAVING
% AN EASIER TIME FINDING PEOPLE
% RIGHT AWAY, RIGHT?
% SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT
% WE CAN DO TO HELP EASE THAT
% PINCH.%I MEAN, ONE IS TO BEAT
THE
% PANDEMIC.
% WE'RE STILL IN A PANDEMIC, AND
% THERE'S STILL DANGEROUS JOBS
% THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GO TO.
% ANOTHER THING IS TO MAKE SURE
% THAT WE STRENGTHEN OUR CHILDCARE
% SYSTEM BECAUSE A LOT OF
% PEOPLE -- THE CHILDCARE SYSTEM
% WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DISRUPTED
% DURING THE PANDEMIC, AND IF
% PEOPLE DON'T HAVE CHILDCARE,
% PEOPLE CAN'T GO TO WORK, AND
% ALSO TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE,
% LIKE, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION
% SYSTEMS THAT CAN CONNECT PEOPLE
% TO WORK.
% IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, OUR --
% WHERE OUR INCOMES WILL BE
% PROBABLY OVER TIME, I THINK THAT
% IS STILL SHAKING OUT IN TERMS OF
% WHAT THE RECOVERY OF THE
% PANDEMIC IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
% TO SOME EXTENT, YOU KNOW, THE
% JOB LOSSES WERE AMONG LOWER PAID
% WORKERS, AND THEY -- THOSE HAVE
% BEEN A LITTLE SLOWER TO RECOVER,
% AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF,
% LIKE, A K-SHAPED RECOVERY
% HAPPENING WHERE THE PEOPLE AT
% THE TOP, INCOMES CONTINUE TO GO
% UP, AND THE PEOPLE ON THE
% BOTTOM, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT
% MAKING THE SAME TYPE OF
% RECOVERY, AND SO -- AND WITH SO
% MUCH UNCERTAINTY STILL ABOUT
% WHERE -- HOW THE PANDEMIC --
% WHERE THE PANDEMIC IS GOING, I
% DON'T THINK THERE'S A SOLID
% ANSWER ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE CAN
% EXPECT PEOPLE'S INCOMES TO LOOK
% LIKE IN THE FUTURE.
% >> WHEN WE LAST SPOKE, IT WAS
% ABOUT THE EXPANDED CHILD TAX
% CREDIT UNDER THE AMERICAN RESCUE
% PLAN, AND DEMOCRATS WANT TO MAKE
% THAT PERMANENT.
% THIS IS A POPULAR ADDITION TO
% THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN, AND
% REPEATEDLY, DEMOCRATS SAID THIS
% WOULD LIFT CHILDREN OUT OF
% POVERTY SIGNIFICANTLY, AND WHEN
% YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE
% NOT BEING ABLE TO GO BACK TO
% WORK BECAUSE OF CHILDCARE ISSUES
% OR BLACK AND LATINO POPULATIONS
% BEING IMPACTED
% DISPROPORTIONALLY, WOULD THINGS
% LIKE AN EXPANDED CHILD TAX
% CREDIT OR MORE SUPPORT FOR
% CHILDREN MAKE A LONGER-TERM
% IMPACT AND ALSO HELP PEOPLE MORE
% AT THE BOTTOM LEVELS OF THE
% INCOME SCALE?%>> THOSE TYPES
OF IMPROVEMENTS
% WOULD HELP EVERYBODY.
% YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY NEEDS
% CHILDCARE, AND NEARLY EVERYONE
% IS BENEFITING -- OR MANY PEOPLE
% ARE BENEFITING FROM THE CHILD
% TAX CREDIT EXPANSION.
% IT ALSO ESPECIALLY HELPS PEOPLE
% WITH LOWEST INCOMES.
% THERE WAS AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE
% CHILD TAX CREDIT IN ADDITION TO
% THE PART WHERE YOU ACTUALLY GET
% THE CHECKS, THAT IT USED TO BE
% THAT PEOPLE WITH THE LOWEST
% INCOMES ACTUALLY DID NOT QUALIFY
% FOR THE CHILD TAX CREDIT AT ALL,
% AND SO -- AND THAT WAS CHANGED
% AS PART OF THIS IMPROVEMENT, AND
% SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN MAKE
% THAT CHANGE PERMANENT, THEN WE
% CAN HELP FAMILIES GET FOOD ON
% THE TABLE, AND WHILE IT BENEFITS
% EVERYBODY, IT ESPECIALLY
% BENEFITS THOSE WHO NEED IT THE
% MOST.
% >> SO OUT OF EVERYTHING THAT'S
% IN THE RECONCILIATION BILL, THIS
% BUILDING BACK BETTER BILL, IT
% DOES HAVE A LOT OF EXTREMELY
% PROGRESSIVE POLICIES, WHICH IS
% MAKING SOME MORE MODERATE
% DEMOCRATS AND ESPECIALLY
% CONSERVATIVES A LITTLE LESS
% INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING OR
% VOTING FOR IT.
% IS SOMETHING LIKE SUPPORTING
% EXPANDED CHILD TAX CREDIT OR
% OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO
% HELP CHILD CARE, CHILD
% LONGEVITY, ARE THOSE THINGS A
% LITTLE BIT MORE POLITICALLY
% VIABLE?%>> WELL, THE BUILD B
ACK BETTER
% IS DEFINITELY A BOLD MOVE,
% RIGHT?%I MEAN, IT'S A BOLD, A
MBITIOUS
% PACKAGE.
% YOU KNOW, IS IT POSSIBLE TO PULL
% OUT PIECES?
% I MEAN, I HAVE NOT HEARD A LOT
% OF REPUBLICAN SUPPORT FOR THIS
% EXPANDED CHILD TAX CREDIT.
% I DON'T KNOW IF PULLING THINGS
% OUT WOULD REALLY BE A SUCCESSFUL
% STRATEGY BECAUSE OF THE LIMITED
% SUPPORT SO I HAVEN'T HEARD A LOT
% OF EFFORT TO DO THAT, AND I
% DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT WOULD
% WORK.
% YEAH.
% >> ALSO, IN THE CONGRESSIONAL
% SIGHT LINE IS WAYS TO FILL GAP
% FOR STATES THAT HAVE NOT
% EXPANNED MEDICAID, AND THIS
% INCLUDES WISCONSIN.
% THERE'S 12 G.O.P. CONTROLLED
% STATES THAT HAVE NOT EXPANDED
% MEDICAID, AND SO THIS BILL WOULD
% TRY TO BRIDGE THOSE GAPS WITH
% MAYBE EXPANDING MEDICARE.
% COULD THIS HAVE AN IMPACT ON
% LONG-TERM RATES OF POVERTY?
% >> WELL, IT COULD DEFINITELY
% REDUCE HARDSHIP IN WISCONSIN AND%
IN OTHER STATES THAT HAVE AN
% EXPANDED MEDICAID.
% SO CONGRESS IS LOOKING AT
% CREATING A FEDERALLY RUN
% MEDICAID-LIKE INSURANCE PROGRAM
% THAT PEOPLE LIVING IN STATES
% THAT HAVEN'T EXPANDED MEDICAID
% COULD ACCESS.
% THAT'S STATES LIKE WISCONSIN,
% WHICH DESPITE BILLIONS IN
% FINANCIAL INCENTIVES AND ALSO
% THE ABILITY TO GIVE MORE PEOPLE
% ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE, HAVE
% DECLINED THAT OPTION.
% WHAT THIS PROPOSAL WOULD DO
% WOULD GIVE PEOPLE WHO, THROUGH
% THE ACTIONS OF THE STATE
% LEGISLATURE, HAVE BEEN DENIED
% ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE, QUALITY
% INSURANCE A NEW ROUTE TO GET
% THERE, AND THAT COULD HELP
% THEIR, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIC WELL
% BEING BY REDUCING MEDICAL COSTS
% BY JUST GIVING THEM BETTER
% ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.
% >> AND IN THE MIDST OF A
% PANDEMIC, HAVE WE LEARNED ABOUT
% HOW MUCH THAT IS NEEDED GIVEN
% GREATER NEED FOR ACCESS TO
% HEALTHCARE?
% >> RIGHT.
% I THINK THE PANDEMIC, YOU KNOW,
% SHOWED THE LIMITATIONS OF A LOT
% OF OUR SYSTEMS, INCLUDING OUR
% HEALTHCARE SYSTEMS SO THAT YOU
% HAD TO BE WORKING, OR FOR MANY
% PEOPLE, YOU HAVE TO BE WORKING
% TO GET ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.
% THAT'S THE PRIMARY WAY PEOPLE
% GET ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE,
% AND IF YOU'RE NOT WORKING, THEN
% THAT'S MORE DIFFICULT TO GET
% ACCESS TO THAT.
% AND, ALSO, OUR LACK OF PAID
% LEAVE, ALTHOUGH WE TEMPORARILY
% HAD PAID LEAVE DURING THE
% PANDEMIC, BUT LACK OF PERMANENT
% PAID LEAVE, SO WHEN PEOPLE WERE
% OUT OF WORK BECAUSE THEY HAD
% COVID OR, YOU KNOW, CARING FOR
% SOMEBODY WITH COVID, WITHOUT A
% PERMANENT PAID LEAVE, YOU KNOW,
% POLICY IN PLACE, THOSE PEOPLE
% RISK LOSING THEIR JOBS AND RISK
% FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AS WELL.
% >> SO WHEN YOU WERE LOOKING AT
% THE DATA, AND AS A RESEARCH
% ANALYST WHEN YOU LOOK AT MORE
% DATA THAT WILL BE COMING, IN
% TERMS OF TRENDS AND HOW THIS
% WILL ILLUMINATE POLICY CHOICES
% AND POLICY APPROACHES, WHAT ARE
% YOU SPECIFICALLY LOOKING FOR,
% ESPECIALLY WHEN WE KIND OF
% CONSIDER THE VERY UNIQUE TIME OF
% THE PANDEMIC AND WAYS IT HAS
% SHOWED US HOW THESE SYSTEMS
% INTERACT WITH DIFFERENT
% CIRCUMSTANCES?%>> WELL, THE P
ANDEMIC THROUGHOUT
% THE DATA COLLECTION PROCESSES
% TIMELINE FOR THESE SURVEYS FOR
% THE CENSUS BUREAU, SO THAT'S A
% LITTLE OUT OF WHACK.
% HOPEFULLY, TEMPORARILY, BUT I
% THINK THAT WE'LL KNOW -- WE'LL
% HAVE WISCONSIN SPECIFIC FIGURES,
% HOPEFULLY, LATER THIS FALL,
% WHICH WE USUALLY GET RIGHT NOW,
% SO THAT WILL -- THAT COULD SHOW
% US WHAT -- HOW WISCONSIN IS
% FAIRING, AND THEN I THINK
% ANOTHER THING TO KEEP AN EYE ON
% IS THE CHANGES IN WELL BEING FOR
% BLACK AND LATINO AND NATIVE
% AMERICAN AND WHITE AND ASIAN
% FAMILIES COMPARED TO EACH OTHER
% SO WE CAN BE SURE AS WE PUT
% POLICIES INTO PLACE, IT IS
% GETTING TO WHO NEEDS IT THE
% MOST.
% YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HELP
% EVERYBODY, BUT MAKE SURE WE ARE
% ALSO TARGETED, AND THEN THE
% OTHER THING IS THAT WE -- THE
% CHILD TAX CREDIT REALLY HAS BEEN
% AN ENORMOUS SUCCESS IN LIFTING
% KIDS OUT OF POVERTY, AND IN
% WISCONSIN ALONE, WE LIFTED MORE
% THAN 40,000 KIDS OUT OF POVERTY,
% AND SO THAT'S MORE -- YOU COULD
% FILL EVERY SEAT IN AMERICAN
% FAMILY FIELD AND MORE WITH THE
% NUMBER OF KIDS LIFTED OUT OF
% POVERTY IN WISCONSIN,
% TEMPORARILY, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
% WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT
% INFORMATION?
% THAT WE TEMPORARILY MADE A
% REALLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN%
THE LIVES OF THESE CHILDREN AND
% THESE FAMILIES THAT'S VERY
% POSITIVE, BUT THAT CHANGE IS
% GOING TO END, AND HOW DO WE TAKE
% THAT INFORMATION AND USE IT TO
% SHAPE OUR FUTURE POLICIES?
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% WE NEED TO LEAVE IT THERE.
% TAMARINE CORNELIUS OF KIDS
% FORWARD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
% JOINING US.%>> THANKS.
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