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poll is finished.
>> Wow. Well, thank you for

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your work.
>> Thank you.

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>> For more insights on the
twists and turns we look to

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this week's Inside
Wisconsin Politics. In this

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excerpt, we hear from our
own Zac Schultz and PFAS

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Shawn Johnson.
>> Of the Democrats in the

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race right now, not
including David Crowley

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only Mandela Barnes defeats
Tom Tiffany in a head to

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head matchup by a 44 to 40%
split among registered

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voters. Tiffany leads
Francesca Hong 43 to 40%,

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so a plus four for Mandela
Barnes, minus three for

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Francesca Hong Zac. I mean,
I think it kind of begs the

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question, why did the
establishment not rally

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around Mandela Barnes?
>> One of the distinctions

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is Barnes came in with the
most name recognition of

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everyone due to his 2022 US
Senate run, his close loss

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to Ron Johnson. And it was
always a question because

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he also had the highest
negatives that came with

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that hangover from that
election. And he started

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running this race as the
front runner. He introduced

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himself as saying, I'm the
one to take on Tom Tiffany.

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He did the thing where he
ignores the rest of the

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field and kind of pretends
they weren't there. And

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then partway through this
election, I think he or his

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campaign realized, oh no,
Francesca Hong is there. I

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do have to take her
seriously. So we kind of

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had to shift his tone to
talking about his

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competitors, where I think
at first he was running the

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2022 U.S. Senate primary,
where all of his

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competitors dropped out at
the end, and he basically

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had the field to himself.
That didn't happen. So it

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is a question of, did the
rest of the field say

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you've had your chance and
you couldn't make your case?

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Now we're going to go with
someone else, or is it

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simply that they think her
negatives are too high,

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despite the head to head
matchup? Looking good.

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>> Why are so many people
not sure about this? What

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we thought was going to be
a very high profile race

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for governor.
>> Because those 48% make

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up a lot of people who
don't watch this podcast,

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so they are not as informed.
There are a lot of people

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who don't pay attention to
politics until the very end

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there. We just got the
first campaign flier in my

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mailbox this morning.
They're starting to come.

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Those people will follow
along. Another thing that

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happens in primaries pretty
regularly is people wait to

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see if there is a
frontrunner. They don't

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like to waste their vote on
someone who will not win,

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or they're going to say,
well, I like this person,

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but they're in fourth place
and they're not polling

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very high. Why would I
throw it behind them? Who

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is my next favorite? Which
is another good thing that

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the Marquette poll does is
they do. Who is your next

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favorite in line? Another
thing to look at is Tom.

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Tiffany is unopposed in the
Republican primary. There's

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still 30% undecided there.
>> Now they're.

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>> Finding they're going to
vote for the Republican.

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But I think you can take
that 30%, put it over and

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compare it to the 48% for
the Democrats and go, okay,

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there's just a lot of
people that either aren't

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tuned in yet, or they're
waiting to the last minute

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to figure out who is
actually the frontrunner.