1
00:00:00,601 --> 00:00:01,435
On multiple fronts

2
00:00:01,502 --> 00:00:02,736
the Trump administration

3
00:00:02,803 --> 00:00:04,104
is going hard against

4
00:00:04,171 --> 00:00:05,639
noncitizen voting.

5
00:00:05,706 --> 00:00:06,373
And yet

6
00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,808
Wisconsin election officials

7
00:00:07,875 --> 00:00:09,943
described noncitizen voting as

8
00:00:10,010 --> 00:00:12,079
vanishingly rare because

9
00:00:12,145 --> 00:00:14,014
it's already illegal.

10
00:00:14,081 --> 00:00:15,215
What's going on?

11
00:00:15,282 --> 00:00:16,550
Well, I think what we're seeing

12
00:00:16,617 --> 00:00:18,919
is a kind of multi-layered

13
00:00:18,986 --> 00:00:19,686
effort by the

14
00:00:19,753 --> 00:00:21,755
Trump administration to

15
00:00:21,822 --> 00:00:24,157
kind of do Jan. 6 every day

16
00:00:24,992 --> 00:00:27,461
to keep alive the myth that

17
00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:28,662
there's widespread

18
00:00:28,729 --> 00:00:30,531
noncitizen voting

19
00:00:31,164 --> 00:00:32,165
to kind of

20
00:00:32,232 --> 00:00:34,501
delegitimize elections.

21
00:00:34,568 --> 00:00:36,103
It's not just kind of

22
00:00:36,170 --> 00:00:37,371
one instrument

23
00:00:37,437 --> 00:00:38,372
or one tool that

24
00:00:38,438 --> 00:00:39,973
they're using to do this.

25
00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,108
There's

26
00:00:41,175 --> 00:00:42,476
using information from the

27
00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:43,744
Census Bureau

28
00:00:43,810 --> 00:00:46,580
using enforcement power from DHS

29
00:00:46,647 --> 00:00:48,248
and using

30
00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:50,017
in a really irregular way

31
00:00:50,083 --> 00:00:51,285
the Postal Service

32
00:00:51,351 --> 00:00:52,286
in an attempt to

33
00:00:52,352 --> 00:00:54,254
gatekeep who votes.

34
00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:56,723
So I think what that tells us

35
00:00:56,790 --> 00:00:58,759
is that the administration is

36
00:00:58,825 --> 00:01:01,228
really hedging its bets

37
00:01:01,295 --> 00:01:02,763
both on what strategies

38
00:01:02,829 --> 00:01:03,564
it thinks it's going

39
00:01:03,630 --> 00:01:05,832
to be successful with

40
00:01:05,899 --> 00:01:08,368
but also, what the outcome

41
00:01:09,837 --> 00:01:10,470
in a way

42
00:01:10,537 --> 00:01:11,471
of all of these strategies

43
00:01:11,538 --> 00:01:12,739
is going to be

44
00:01:12,806 --> 00:01:14,408
and they're kind of setting up

45
00:01:14,474 --> 00:01:15,209
I think

46
00:01:15,275 --> 00:01:16,276
some opportunities for themselve

47
00:01:16,343 --> 00:01:17,411
If one of the strategies

48
00:01:17,477 --> 00:01:18,045
doesn't work out

49
00:01:18,111 --> 00:01:18,645
that they can sort of

50
00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:20,714
fall back on another.