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>> And send the crazy

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people back home where they
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thank you for having me
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>> An official visit from
Vice President JD Vance

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brings political and
election related rhetoric.

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And what's to blame for the
increase in ATV accidents

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and fatalities?
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tonight on Here and now. A
recent surge in Ice arrests

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in Wisconsin. Another
candidate drops out of the

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race for governor and
inside Wisconsin politics

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president visits Milwaukee
to talk fraud of all kinds.

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An uptick in off road
vehicles across the state

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means more crashes, and the
small city of fond du Lac

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seeks to attract working
age residents. It's "Here&

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>> A surge of immigration
and border control arrests

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in Wisconsin over the past
few weeks is part of a

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nationwide push on the part
of Homeland Security,

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resulting in the detention
of more than 10,000 people,

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according to National
Reporting in Milwaukee.

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Waukesha, the Madison area
and elsewhere in the state.

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Dozens of arrests have been
confirmed by immigrant

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rights groups and attorneys
for reaction. On this, we

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turn to Milwaukee and
Darryl Morin national

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president of Forward Latino.
And thanks very much for

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being here.
>> Thank you for asking me

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to join you this morning.
>> So what is your reaction

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to this recent surge of
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elsewhere?
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tremendous frustration and
to a certain degree, anger.

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You know, it would be
different if they were

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going around and detaining
people who were bad doers

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in the community. But we're
continuing to see that

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operations are continuously
targeted at people, for the

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most part, who've been
trying to do everything the

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right way, who filled out
all their asylum papers,

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have been showing up to all
their court dates, etc.

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that are that came here
with TPS, only to see it

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removed from them. So it's
really been a very dark

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time for many in our
community, and we

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appreciate the support and
that we're seeing come from

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all other communities
throughout the state and

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the country, quite honestly.
>> Do you have the numbers

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of arrests in Wisconsin in
this most recent surge?

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>> Well, I know that we've
been able to confirm 39.

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Immigrations put out the
number of 57. We're still

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working to confirm that.
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comfortable reporting at
this time.

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>> What stands out to you
as to how these recent

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arrests are physically
being carried out?

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>> Well, I'll tell you,
there's there's plenty of

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video out there to support
what I'm going to be

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sharing with you. We've
seen families, particularly

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mothers, even with infants
in the car, have their

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windows being broken, being
violently pulled out and

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thrown to the ground.
Having immigration agents

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literally holster their
weapon before they have a

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chance to do anything and
threaten their lives. It's

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been very, very scary for
many folks, both immigrant

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and citizen alike. Because
we're seeing this happen to

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people who are both
lawfully and unlawfully

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present at this time. So a
lot of concern, especially

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given what we saw in
previously up in

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Minneapolis and now with
the the shooting that's

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been ruled a homicide that
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Houston, there's a lot of
fear and a lot of concern.

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>> Because in your mind,
the kind of police tactics

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are are not in keeping with
general rules of, of such.

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>> Yeah. Generally, we're
used to seeing law

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enforcement officers using
rules of de-escalation. And

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immigration officials are
actually doing quite the

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opposite right now. And I
think they've actually

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realized this because what
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wearing vests now that that,
say, ICE or denote them as

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being immigrant officials,
they're now wearing vests

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that are now exclusively
say police. So I think

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that's a self admission
that they no longer have

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the trust and credibility
throughout our country and

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are being forced to try to
steal or borrow or take the

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trust and credibility that
people have with their

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local law enforcement
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>> How will this continue
to unfold in your mind,

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given increased funding to
Ice?

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>> Well, we know that we
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two weeks ago because we
had seen this coming. So we

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put out a community alert
on it. In fact, it just

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expired today. But we're
expecting to see, while not

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at the same levels, we're
expecting to see the

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standard operating tempo of
immigration. Actually step

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it up a little bit as we
move forward. We're now

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starting to see that they
are graduating additional

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classes of agents through
their training program.

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With the recent funding
increase that they received

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yet again, they are now Ice
is now receiving more

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funding on an annual basis
than the United States

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Marine Corps is just to
tell you that outrageous

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amount of resources that
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So we're telling everybody,
well, we have lifted we've

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led the community alert
expire here in southeastern

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Wisconsin. It's still
important for people who

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are lawfully present, who
are U.S. citizens or who

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are at risk of separation,
really, to have an

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emergency plan in place
should you be pulled over

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or run off the road by
unidentified vehicles and

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be violently thrown out of
your vehicle and detained?

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>> Because I was just going
to ask you what someone in

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your position says to
people you advocate for in

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the midst of all of this?
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fortunate that as a
community, we're strong of

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faith. We've had to
overcome a lot throughout

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our history. Sadly, we
thought chapters like this

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were relegated to the past.
And we're seeing them

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brought forward to the
future. So we will continue

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to persevere. And as I
mentioned, we are receiving

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calls and financial support
and volunteers from all

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different communities, many
from people who've never

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been involved in any kind
of such action. And the one

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common theme I'm hearing
from them is this isn't the

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America we grew up in. This
isn't right. How can I help?

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And that's what makes it
easier to get up every

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morning. Quite honestly.
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Maureen, thank you so much.
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>> In related news, former
Milwaukee County Circuit

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Court Judge Hannah Dugan
will not serve prison time

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for ushering a Mexican
defendant out of her

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courtroom to evade Ice
agents. At sentencing this

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week, a federal judge, fine
Dugan $5,000, saying she

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lived an otherwise law
abiding life. Federal

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prosecutors had sought a
stiffer sentence. Steil

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Dugan is expecting to
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then there were five. This
week, one of the six

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Democrats running for
governor dropped out of the

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race. Milwaukee County
Executive David Crowley

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announced he would no
longer seek the position,

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saying it has become clear
that I will not be the

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Democratic nominee for
governor. After being

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outpaced by other
candidates, he threw his

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support to Lieutenant
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also still in the race.
Francesca Hong, Mandela

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Barnes, Kelda, Roys and
Joel Brennan. This week's

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Inside Wisconsin politics
took up changes in the

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primary campaigns for
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>> Now we're down to five.
Zac is it's still crowded,

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or is this race shifted to
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>> I think the crowd. It
depends more on the lanes

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of what we're talking about.
I think there's clearly a

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progressive lane. There's
clearly a more

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establishment center,
government lane. And then

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there's a question of if
there's room in between for

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any of the rest of them to
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area, or if they're
competing for those two

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groups. But there clearly
is this sense, as the two

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candidates have dropped out,
that have now endorsed Sara

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Rodriguez, that there is an
establishment going on and

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that fits this national
theme that we're seeing of

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establishment Dems worrying
about progressive Dems

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potentially undermining
chances to win seats in

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November, versus
progressives who are saying,

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no, we are the ones that
are going to win these

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primaries and win in
November, get behind us as

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we keep going forward. So
there's definitely a

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shrinkage there, but it's
almost a shrinkage into

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lanes as opposed to these
individual candidates.

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>> How do you see those
lanes? I mean, I think just

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a few weeks ago, I was kind
of having a hard time

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putting the candidates into
different lanes or buckets,

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however you want to do it.
What are the lanes now as

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you see it?
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of hit the nail on the head
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progressive. And one way
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when these candidates are
dropping out, that they are

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endorsing other candidates.
There's a world in which

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you drop out and you say, I
love my party and I all I

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want is for a Democrat to
win. And David Crowley did

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that kind of initially in
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that he was stepping down.
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endorse anyone. He said,
the most important thing is

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just that somebody beats
Tom Tiffany in the fall and

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then this morning came out
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So I think that's a sign
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choosing teams and trying
to say, who do I think is

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the best ability for
Democrats to win in

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November? Is it the sort of
Hong progressive lane? Is

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it the Rodriguez, more sort
of establishment? Lane?

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>> Nobody that I've heard
has come out and said, well,

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we got to stop Francesca
Hong, you know, but we've

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seen this debate that
you've referenced at the

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national level where you
have sort of the national

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establishment, Democrats
fighting against this, you

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know, Democratic Socialist
caucus that's growing. Is

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there an unspoken we got to
stop Francesca Hong in all

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this, or are we making that
up? Are we looking for

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conflict where there is
none here in Wisconsin?

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>> I don't think it'd be
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out loud from the
Democratic Party, because

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there's a very good chance
that Hong can win this, and

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then they have to unite
behind her. So that is the

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the other half of this game
is you can drop out and you

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can endorse someone that
you would prefer, but then

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you still want to create a
sense of party unity that

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that is still the goal is
for the Democrats in their

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minds, is to beat Tom
Tiffany. And whether that

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is Francesca Hong or
whether that's Sara

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Rodriguez or Mandela Barnes
or Brennan or Roys or

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anyone that's still in this
race at this point. They

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have to worry about that in
the long run. So in the

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short run, we're not seeing
some of the disunity of

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attacking each other. That
was a potential with a more

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crowded race. There's still
time. There's still million

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dollar ad buys coming up.
Kelda Roys just announced

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an hour ago that she's got
1.2 million that she's

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going to announce, and
she's going to spend every

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last penny of it. She's not
going to drop out of this

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race. And she has a history
in some of these big

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competitive elections of
towards the end. So I don't

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think it's going to be all
quiet and rosy from from

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here until August. There's
going to be some fireworks

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as they try and create that
last separation to

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hopefully put themselves
over the 30 to 35% that may

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be needed to win.

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>> In other election news,
in a 5 to 2 ruling this

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week, the Wisconsin Supreme
Court rejected an attempt

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by a conservative activist
to obtain records of people

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who are deemed not to be
competent to vote. The

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court, citing personal
privacy rights. The case

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was connected to moves to
overturn President Joe

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Biden's victory over
President Trump in 2020.

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Vice President JD Vance
came to Milwaukee this week

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with a message of stamping
out fraud in taxpayer

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funded programs. Ahead of
his visit, Merrick Cavalier

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Johnson asked the vice
president to come see

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Milwaukee's election
operation because he wrote,

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quote, federal law
enforcement agents deployed

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at the direction of the
president's administration

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have been present in my
city interviewing election

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officials. I know of no
justification for this

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activity. Evidence of
wrongdoing is entirely

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absent, he said, and the
investigation is

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intimidating. Honest public
servants. Vance was asked

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to respond.
>> Some guy sends me a

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letter, the mayor of
Milwaukee, and says, we

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don't do any election fraud.
We don't do any election

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fraud. We don't do any
election fraud. When I hear

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a guy protesting out of
nowhere, I did not do any

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election fraud. I did not
do any election fraud. It

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makes me wonder, why is
that guy protesting so

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aggressively? It's a little
odd. A second thing I'll

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say is, look, there's, of
course, this big debate

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about how much election
fraud happens in the United

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States of America. You guys
know my views. We're not

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going to settle this here.
First of all, any election

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fraud is too much election
fraud in the world's

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greatest and oldest
constitutional republic.

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And number two, if
Democrats want us to stop

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talking about election
fraud, I make them a simple

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deal pass the Save America
Act and get voter ID, and

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we'll stop talking about
election fraud.

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>> Vance said he could not
meet with the mayor or tour

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election sites, but said
Johnson was welcome to

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visit him in DC. Turning to
the outdoors with summer at

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its peak, ATV and side by
side vehicles are out in

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force across thousands of
miles of trails in

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Wisconsin, and we have the
most registered off road

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vehicles of any state at
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The explosion in rioters
comes with a steady

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increase, though, in
fatality and injury

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accidents involving the
vehicles. A new law went

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into effect in June that
requires seatbelt use, part

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of work to enhance the
safety of ATVs and utvs.

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DNR conservation Warden
Jake Holsclaw oversees the

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Off Highway vehicle program
and joins us now from Eau

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Claire. And thanks very
much for being here.

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>> Absolutely look forward
to it.

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>> So how busy is it out
there on the ATV routes?

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>> Yeah. Great question. It
seems like it's getting

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busier every day. Wisconsin,
like you said, we have over

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half a million registered
machines. It seems like

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that number is going up
every year. And we have

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about 2500 miles of off
road trail routes. And then

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we have over 65,000 miles
of on road routes. So

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basically roadways, you
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with other motor vehicles.
So it really does keep us

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busy.
>> As we've said, the

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uptick in the number of
riders, though, also

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results in an increase in
accidents and injuries and

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even fatalities.
>> Yeah, unfortunately, I

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think that that's just a
kind of a byproduct of the

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increased numbers. We
really started to see an

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increase around 2020, 2021.
I think people were just

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with everything else going
on, they were trying to get

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outdoors, find something to
do. And it really has

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stayed steadily increasing
ever since then. And when

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you have more people on the
landscape, you have more

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folks potentially are, you
know, not being safe and

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not following the rules.
And then we have seen an

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uptick in crashes because
of that.

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crashes mostly happen?
>> Well, it's any number of

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reasons. A number of our
crashes are going to be

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alcohol or drug related.
The majority of them would

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be alcohol related. When
we're looking at, you know,

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some kind of substance, so
to speak, that's causing

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folks to crash. And so I
think folks need to

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remember that, you know,
just like the motor vehicle

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world, you really need to
make a smart decision and

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realize that even with
these recreational vehicles

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like ATVs and Utvs, maybe
even more so, they're very

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dynamic machine and folks
have to be you want to be

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on your best, right? You
want your mind to be

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working the best. You want
your body, your reaction

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time to be working the best
when you're out operating

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these. One of the other
things is that people need

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to remember. I think they
sometimes forget that these

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machines handle differently
roadways. The original

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design of these machines,
in fact, that's what the

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you know, you'll see
manufacturers

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recommendations is that
they are only operated off

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the road. So I think folks
need to remember that the

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knobby or softer tires on a
lot of these machines, they

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tend to grip pavement
really well. And if people

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drive them like they would
drive their car going to

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work, it can cause some
problems. They tend to tip

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easier if people aren't
slowing down into their

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curves and really
anticipating their stops.

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So a number of the crashes
we're seeing, a little over

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half are occurring on
roadway routes.

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>> So as to the operation
of these vehicles while

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under the influence of
whatever it is. What are

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the penalties for that? I
mean, you can write

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citations for that, but
what are the penalties that

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someone would face for that?
>> Yeah, ultimately it

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would be it would be a
citation or a couple

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citations. Typically, you
know, the citation is

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issued for the operating
while intoxicated. If

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they're operating over that
0.08 level, they would be

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issued an additional
citation for that. And then

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sometimes they're issued to
other citations for other

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violations that may have
occurred because they were

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intoxicated and not not
really thinking clearly and

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and violating some other
safety issues. So yeah, so

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a number of citations can
be issued. But typically,

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you know, most of what
we're running into is a

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first offense. And in
Wisconsin, like any, oh, to

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be a first offense is just
a civil forfeiture. It's

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really just a fine. There's
typically typically no jail

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time or extra fines
associated with that unless

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unless there is something
more major, like somebody

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dies in the crash or
something like that happens.

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>> And so people could be
right back out there on, on

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those vehicles after that
kind of a citation. Now, I

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took a look at your annual
report, and it says that

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95% of fatal accidents are
among operators who have

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not taken a safety course,
but those are that course

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is only required for people
born after 1988. Why is

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that? Yeah.
>> Yeah, you're spot on.

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Well, back when the law was
created, they they decided

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to. My understanding is
that they decided to set a

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date. They had to set a
time frame where they

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wanted everybody born on or
after that date to complete

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the course. Like you said,
it's one one of 88. And so

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the idea behind that then
was that folks born before

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that are essentially
grandfathered in their

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older age. But what we are
seeing, like you said, 95%

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haven't completed a safety
course, but also the

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majority of our crashes are
happening with folks that

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are older and grandfathered
in. So folks that were born

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before that one, one of 88
date. And so I think it

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really points to the fact
that you're never really

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too old to learn safety.
You're never, you're never

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too old to know the rules
and regulations. And we

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just want folks to remember
that the majority, the vast

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majority of our regulations
are there for your safety

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and for you to continued
enjoyment of that sport.

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>> All right. Well, we
appreciate it. Thanks very

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much for joining us from
Eau Claire. Jake Holsclaw.

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>> Thank you.
>> Up next, a push to

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attract a working age
population. Would you

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consider moving to the
small city of fond du Lac

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to work? There's an
incentive for that.

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Actually, two one offers
$9,500 to individuals from

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out of state to move to the
city and maintain their

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remote jobs. The other
helps employers recruit

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employees from areas at
least 100 miles away, and

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helps them offer
prospective workers a

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$15,000 hiring bonus. Here
to explain the program is

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Sadie Howell of Envision
Greater Fond du Lac. And

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thanks very much for being
here.

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>> Thanks for having me.
>> So why the push to help

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people move to fond du Lac.
>> In Fond du Lac County?

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We're facing a population
decline which isn't unlike

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the rest of the state. Most
of the state of Wisconsin

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and at envision, we are the
combined Chamber of

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Commerce and Economic
Development organization.

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And so we have heard from
our members and businesses

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for years that it's really
hard to attract talent and

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find workers. So this has
been a push at envision and

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our strategic plan on
talent attraction campaigns.

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The $15,000 one you
referenced, we've had for

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quite a few years. And then
most recently we launched a

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talent attraction with Make
My Move due to a grant from

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the state of Wisconsin.
>> So how bad is that

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population decline?
>> I would say we're we're

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pretty stagnant right now.
So in fond du Lac County,

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it has been about a 1%
population growth. We don't

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have a lot of natural birth,
but we do have net

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in-migration. And so we do
an okay job of attracting

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people from different
counties in Wisconsin and

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from out of the state.
However, we're we're facing

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two really big years. 2030
is when a lot of the baby

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boomers will retire. And in
2040 is when our population

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is really expected to start
to decline quite a bit. And

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in preparation for that, we
wanted to make sure that we

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were starting to attract
people before 2030 into

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2040.
>> How many new residents

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and workers are you hoping
to lure to your city.

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>> With the grant program?
So that was from the state

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legislature, put $5 million
into a new grant through

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the Wisconsin Economic
Development Corporation and

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Envision Applied. We
received $346,000 from.

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WEDC envisions. Board of
directors is putting about

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100,000 towards it. And
with that money, we are

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partnering with Make My
Move. They are a national

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platform that helps
relocate individuals that

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are looking for a new place
to call home, and our goal

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is 32 families.
>> So for both programs,

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individuals or employers
have to fill out

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applications. What is
interest looking like right

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now?
>> For our Make My Move

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platform? It is pretty
crazy. We actually just got

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our new statistics
yesterday and 1700 people

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from around the country
have expressed interest.

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900 of them have applied to
move to fond du Lac County.

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And then from those it's
trickled down a little bit.

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We have six accepted movers
already. We launched this

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May 14th, so about a month
and a half, two months

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almost in. We have six
people already moving. One

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person already purchased a
home in fond du Lac County.

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So it's it's incredible.
It's really incredible. And

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what what Make My Move does
and why they have been a

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great partner. We've been
working with them for about

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6 to 9 months. On creating
all of the storytelling of

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why would somebody want to
live in fond du Lac County?

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So they sell the community
first and then people apply.

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So we are resonating with
an incredible number of

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people from around the
country who want to come

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and live here.
>> So if you were trying,

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as you are, to entice
someone to move to fond du

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Lac, what are its selling
points?

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>> It's not a lot different
than what I think you would

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probably hear from other
communities that come on,

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we have a a little bit
slower pace of life. We are

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a little bit smaller. We do
have affordable homes. We

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do have a wonderful mix of
private and public schools.

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We have three institutions
of higher learning in our

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county and a plethora of
careers. So there you will

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have no problem trying to
find your right career here.

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It's really. Do you like
outdoor recreation? Do you

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still like to talk to your
neighbors and find a place

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that you call community,
where non-profits are

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looking for volunteers?
That's the kind of

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community that still exists
in fond du Lac County.

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>> So briefly here, this
obviously really works.

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This incentive program that
you've set up are other

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cities across the state
looking at something

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similar?
>> Yeah. So we were one of

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17 communities that
actually received this

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grant from WEDC. So our
neighbors to the east,

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Sheboygan and two of our
neighbors to the north,

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Oshkosh and the city of
Appleton both received

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similar grants. Now their
programs look a little bit

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different than ours, but
all of us had to follow the

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same basic guidelines when
we received the grant.

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>> All right. Well, Sadie
Howell, thanks very much

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for joining us.
>> Thank you.

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