1 00:00:07,307 --> 00:00:10,377 PBS Wisconsin Original production. 2 00:00:10,444 --> 00:00:12,913 >> Right now. Yes. [MUSIC] 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,250 than it should be, but we're going to end this 4 00:00:16,316 --> 00:00:18,819 damn war with Iran, and we're going to get back to 5 00:00:18,886 --> 00:00:20,521 economic prosperity and freedom. 6 00:00:20,587 --> 00:00:24,491 >> Republicans rally their base and chart a course to 7 00:00:24,558 --> 00:00:28,795 the November polls at their state convention. And 8 00:00:28,862 --> 00:00:32,599 heading into Memorial Day weekend, a Wisconsin gem is 9 00:00:32,666 --> 00:00:36,803 feared to one day be overrun by tourists. I'm 10 00:00:38,438 --> 00:00:41,742 Frederica Freyberg. Tonight on "Here& Now", 11 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:44,545 Congresswoman Gwen Moore on the barrage of news coming 12 00:00:44,611 --> 00:00:47,915 from Washington and congressional Republicans 13 00:00:47,981 --> 00:00:52,152 gear up for election season. A federal bill to designate 14 00:00:52,219 --> 00:00:55,923 the Apostle Islands as a national park faces local 15 00:00:55,989 --> 00:00:59,059 opposition, and a single building provides a 16 00:00:59,126 --> 00:01:02,429 multicampus haven for students with 17 00:01:02,496 --> 00:01:04,932 neurodiversity. It's "Here& Now" for May 18 00:01:04,998 --> 00:01:07,367 22nd. >> Funding for Here and Now 19 00:01:07,434 --> 00:01:10,504 is provided by the Focus Fund for Journalism and 20 00:01:10,571 --> 00:01:15,142 Friends of PBS Wisconsin. >> As Wisconsin and the 21 00:01:22,783 --> 00:01:26,053 nation geared toward midterm elections, what are 22 00:01:26,119 --> 00:01:29,323 voters to make of what goes on in Washington and how it 23 00:01:29,389 --> 00:01:32,492 affects them? Or are they tuning out because of the 24 00:01:32,559 --> 00:01:36,063 daily crush of headlines? There's the ongoing war in 25 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:39,333 Iran, prices at the pump and in the spring planting 26 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:43,303 fields. There is the nearly $1.8 billion anti 27 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:45,739 weaponisation fund that the president could give to 28 00:01:45,806 --> 00:01:48,976 people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th. 29 00:01:49,042 --> 00:01:51,612 There is the significant narrowing of the Voting 30 00:01:51,678 --> 00:01:54,982 Rights Act by conservatives on the U.S. Supreme Court. 31 00:01:55,048 --> 00:01:59,119 And the list goes on and on. We regularly like to touch 32 00:01:59,186 --> 00:02:01,989 base with our congressional delegation for their news 33 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:05,158 and views. Over the past couple of weeks, we've 34 00:02:05,225 --> 00:02:08,228 invited Wisconsin Republicans to share their 35 00:02:08,295 --> 00:02:11,698 viewpoints without success. Tonight, we turn to fourth 36 00:02:11,765 --> 00:02:14,134 District Democratic Congresswoman Gwen Moore. 37 00:02:14,201 --> 00:02:16,937 And thanks very much for being here. 38 00:02:17,004 --> 00:02:19,072 >> Always great to be with you, Fredricka. 39 00:02:19,139 --> 00:02:21,408 >> So of all the news that is swirling, what stands 40 00:02:21,475 --> 00:02:25,946 out for you as you represent your constituents? 41 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,349 >> Well, the thing that is obviously standing out to 42 00:02:29,416 --> 00:02:34,087 me is just the unending crush, economic crush that 43 00:02:35,389 --> 00:02:39,626 people are facing. Combination of the tariff 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,731 tariffs, the war on Iran, the erratic, mercurial 45 00:02:46,967 --> 00:02:51,205 functioning of this president, him freezing 46 00:02:52,372 --> 00:02:57,044 funds for essential services like daycare and 47 00:02:57,110 --> 00:03:01,715 childcare. These are things that are disrupting 48 00:03:01,782 --> 00:03:04,551 everyday Wisconsinites lives. The crisis with 49 00:03:04,618 --> 00:03:08,889 health care and the doubling sometimes of 50 00:03:08,956 --> 00:03:11,425 people's health care premiums, or the loss of 51 00:03:11,491 --> 00:03:14,628 their health care premiums. You know, just the 52 00:03:14,695 --> 00:03:17,965 aggregation of all these things is placing a huge 53 00:03:18,031 --> 00:03:22,369 economic crush on families. And so that's the thing 54 00:03:22,436 --> 00:03:27,374 that sort of stands out to me as the background for 55 00:03:27,441 --> 00:03:30,677 all of the very particular things that are happening. 56 00:03:30,744 --> 00:03:32,779 >> As to the ruling related to the Voting Rights Act, 57 00:03:32,846 --> 00:03:36,316 that a majority minority district was an 58 00:03:36,383 --> 00:03:38,452 unconstitutional racial gerrymander, what does that 59 00:03:38,519 --> 00:03:41,755 mean to minority representation? 60 00:03:42,523 --> 00:03:47,027 >> It means an awful lot. You know, the the 13th, 61 00:03:47,094 --> 00:03:50,063 14th, 15th amendment, the 14th amendment of the 62 00:03:50,130 --> 00:03:53,534 Constitution in particular, really guaranteed African 63 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,437 Americans equality. And we we have seen throughout 64 00:03:57,504 --> 00:04:00,340 history, this is not new people. We have 'seen 65 00:04:00,407 --> 00:04:04,978 throughout history sort of lost cause. You know, 66 00:04:07,614 --> 00:04:12,753 Democrats and Republicans grieving over African 67 00:04:12,819 --> 00:04:16,657 Americans having access to the ballot, access to power 68 00:04:16,723 --> 00:04:20,861 and their willingness to sort of interfere with that 69 00:04:20,928 --> 00:04:23,864 power by any means necessary. You know, the 70 00:04:23,931 --> 00:04:28,335 rise of the Ku Klux Klan came as a result of African 71 00:04:28,402 --> 00:04:31,538 Americans being enfranchised. And so this 72 00:04:31,605 --> 00:04:36,276 is absolutely no this is a backlash for the power that 73 00:04:36,343 --> 00:04:39,680 African Americans have achieved. And this could 74 00:04:39,746 --> 00:04:44,184 have an impact on a minimum of 19 sort of voting, 75 00:04:44,251 --> 00:04:47,554 voting rights districts in the country. 76 00:04:47,621 --> 00:04:50,891 >> Turning to the war in Iran, the U.S. and Iran are 77 00:04:50,958 --> 00:04:54,328 reportedly negotiating. Are members of Congress on both 78 00:04:54,394 --> 00:04:57,731 sides tiring of this ongoing war and wanting a 79 00:04:57,798 --> 00:05:00,601 say? >> Well, I'll tell you, we 80 00:05:00,968 --> 00:05:05,205 have been putting up war powers resolutions, 81 00:05:07,774 --> 00:05:12,045 repeatedly privileged resolutions, which, by the 82 00:05:12,112 --> 00:05:14,848 way, the Republicans did not honor. Yesterday we had 83 00:05:14,915 --> 00:05:18,552 yet another war Powers resolution ripen, and they 84 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:21,421 didn't put it before us because they in the House 85 00:05:21,488 --> 00:05:25,959 did not have the votes to defeat it. We've seen more 86 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:29,696 and more and more Republicans join us in 87 00:05:30,764 --> 00:05:33,934 putting forth this War Powers Resolution. To this 88 00:05:34,001 --> 00:05:36,336 day, we don't have a concrete reason that we 89 00:05:36,403 --> 00:05:39,806 went in there. >> On another matter in 90 00:05:39,873 --> 00:05:43,944 your mind, should Congress have a say over the nearly 91 00:05:44,011 --> 00:05:46,180 $1.8 billion fund that resulted out of a 92 00:05:46,246 --> 00:05:49,349 settlement President Trump made with the IRS that 93 00:05:49,416 --> 00:05:52,052 would pay people the administration believes 94 00:05:52,119 --> 00:05:57,024 were unfairly prosecuted. >> It's all very ludicrous. 95 00:05:57,090 --> 00:05:59,593 I bet Frederica you can't even believe that you're 96 00:05:59,660 --> 00:06:04,798 asking this question. This $1.8 billion slush fund for 97 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:08,969 his cronies and his buddy and, you know, also a part 98 00:06:09,036 --> 00:06:12,139 of that other part of that agreement is that Donald 99 00:06:12,206 --> 00:06:15,409 Trump and his sons should never, ever, ever be 100 00:06:15,475 --> 00:06:20,147 audited again. That is absolutely the pinnacle of 101 00:06:20,881 --> 00:06:23,784 corruption. But as a member of the Ways and Means 102 00:06:23,851 --> 00:06:27,254 Committee, we did we did offer in our markup 103 00:06:27,321 --> 00:06:32,059 yesterday, which was on corruption of TANF, for 104 00:06:32,125 --> 00:06:36,430 example, corruption. We did offer amendments to try to 105 00:06:36,496 --> 00:06:39,633 get rid of this $1.8 billion fund. 106 00:06:40,267 --> 00:06:42,503 >> Are your voters overwhelmed by the crush of 107 00:06:42,569 --> 00:06:45,205 everything that happens out of Washington on a daily 108 00:06:45,272 --> 00:06:47,708 basis? >> You want to know 109 00:06:47,774 --> 00:06:52,012 something that I'll say? The whole political 110 00:06:52,846 --> 00:06:55,349 strategy of the Trump administration has been to 111 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:59,887 flood the zone, to just keep us running like a rat 112 00:07:00,954 --> 00:07:05,459 on a treadmill so that we won't be able to respond to 113 00:07:05,526 --> 00:07:09,763 their chaotic, mercurial governance strategy. We are 114 00:07:09,830 --> 00:07:12,232 hoping to get back into power to really resolve 115 00:07:12,299 --> 00:07:17,304 some major threats to our community of interest. That 116 00:07:19,139 --> 00:07:22,576 is the ability for people to vote, the ability of 117 00:07:22,643 --> 00:07:26,280 people to be able to go to a doctor, the ability of 118 00:07:26,346 --> 00:07:29,850 people to be able to afford, you know, both the bacon 119 00:07:29,917 --> 00:07:34,588 and the eggs and, and to be able to live a productive 120 00:07:36,123 --> 00:07:39,293 life, to be able to put gas in their cars so they can 121 00:07:39,359 --> 00:07:43,764 get to work. This is this is a this is the American 122 00:07:43,830 --> 00:07:48,535 dream just to have normalcy. And so this is what we're 123 00:07:48,602 --> 00:07:51,438 offering voters in the future. And that is we're 124 00:07:51,505 --> 00:07:54,174 keeping our eye on the prize. 125 00:07:54,808 --> 00:07:56,410 >> Congresswoman Gwen Moore, we leave it there. Thank 126 00:07:56,476 --> 00:07:58,812 you so much. >> Thank you. 127 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:03,550 >> Wisconsin Republicans did stake their opinions on 128 00:08:03,617 --> 00:08:06,553 some of these issues during the state party convention, 129 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:10,290 where there was high praise for President Trump, 130 00:08:10,357 --> 00:08:13,393 mentions of the culture war and an emphasis on kitchen 131 00:08:13,460 --> 00:08:16,697 table issues. When asked what are the most pressing 132 00:08:16,763 --> 00:08:19,833 priorities for Wisconsin voters, Congressman Derrick 133 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:24,271 Van Orden responded. >> It's gas. Groceries, 134 00:08:24,338 --> 00:08:26,540 grandkids. Gas is going to start coming down E15 right 135 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:30,143 now. That's up to $0.30 a gallon less. The the war 136 00:08:30,210 --> 00:08:33,180 that Iran declared on us is going to end. That's going 137 00:08:33,247 --> 00:08:35,382 down. The input costs are already going down for 138 00:08:35,449 --> 00:08:37,951 groceries. So everything is predicated on energy. 139 00:08:38,018 --> 00:08:40,120 Energy production is going up. That means that the 140 00:08:40,187 --> 00:08:42,289 input costs for agriculture going down the farm bill, 141 00:08:42,356 --> 00:08:44,391 when signed into law, is going to help tremendously 142 00:08:44,458 --> 00:08:47,060 lower the groceries part and then the grandkids. I 143 00:08:47,127 --> 00:08:49,229 think Donald Trump is doing a fantastic job that that 144 00:08:49,296 --> 00:08:51,665 implies the security, the security for our nation. So 145 00:08:51,732 --> 00:08:54,535 there hasn't been a single illegal alien released into 146 00:08:54,601 --> 00:08:58,105 the United States in a year. We got the Lake and Riley 147 00:08:58,172 --> 00:09:00,207 Act passed. So if you're a criminal, illegal alien, 148 00:09:00,274 --> 00:09:03,544 you know what? You're getting deported. 149 00:09:03,610 --> 00:09:06,780 >> As the nation honors fallen service members this 150 00:09:06,847 --> 00:09:09,983 Memorial Day on Monday, the tourism industry marks the 151 00:09:10,050 --> 00:09:13,420 start of the summer season. A bill in the U.S. House 152 00:09:13,487 --> 00:09:16,823 would re designate the Apostle Islands as 153 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:20,661 Wisconsin's first national park, the 21 islands and 12 154 00:09:20,727 --> 00:09:24,531 miles of mainland off Lake Superior in northern 155 00:09:24,598 --> 00:09:27,100 Wisconsin is already a national lakeshore. 156 00:09:27,167 --> 00:09:29,636 Supporters say the designation as a national 157 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:33,273 park would boost tourism and local economies. 158 00:09:33,340 --> 00:09:35,742 Republican Congressman Tom Tiffany introduced the 159 00:09:35,809 --> 00:09:38,745 measure and it passed. Committee this spring. But 160 00:09:38,812 --> 00:09:41,315 local governments in and around Bayfield County and 161 00:09:41,381 --> 00:09:44,818 the Red Cliff band of Lake Superior Chippewa oppose 162 00:09:44,885 --> 00:09:48,088 the redesignation. The county and the tribe 163 00:09:48,155 --> 00:09:51,725 drafted a formal resolution together opposing it. We 164 00:09:51,792 --> 00:09:55,429 asked Bayfield County Board Chair Jan Lee why. And 165 00:09:55,495 --> 00:09:57,764 thanks very much for being here. 166 00:09:57,831 --> 00:10:00,767 >> Thank you for having me. >> So we've done some 167 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:03,937 reporting in Bayfield, kind of during the summer season. 168 00:10:04,004 --> 00:10:08,375 And the crush of tourists can be difficult for small 169 00:10:08,442 --> 00:10:11,678 businesses there to manage. How would a national park 170 00:10:11,745 --> 00:10:15,215 designation increase those crowds? 171 00:10:16,617 --> 00:10:21,088 >> Yes. Thank you. So I think to to start, like you 172 00:10:22,923 --> 00:10:26,393 said, the tourism area here in Bayfield, in particular 173 00:10:26,460 --> 00:10:30,197 at the at the gateway to the Apostle Islands has 174 00:10:30,264 --> 00:10:32,399 hasn't been a problem in the summertime. There's 175 00:10:32,466 --> 00:10:35,102 never been a problem with not having enough tourists 176 00:10:35,169 --> 00:10:38,939 up here in the late spring, summer, early fall, 177 00:10:39,006 --> 00:10:42,809 basically through Apple Fest every first weekend of 178 00:10:42,876 --> 00:10:45,812 October. As a matter of fact, we're pretty much 179 00:10:45,879 --> 00:10:48,148 bursting at the seams in terms of what we can 180 00:10:48,215 --> 00:10:52,920 accommodate in terms of lodging and restaurants. 181 00:10:52,986 --> 00:10:57,024 And that affects workforce, of course. And we don't 182 00:10:57,090 --> 00:11:00,194 have housing for people up here. It's hard to have to, 183 00:11:00,260 --> 00:11:03,363 to to have workforce come in that can accommodate all 184 00:11:03,430 --> 00:11:06,166 these tourists for the businesses. So and I know 185 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:11,038 that Mr. Tiffany has touted this redesignation as a 186 00:11:11,104 --> 00:11:16,343 boon for tourism, but we're we're basically looking for 187 00:11:18,612 --> 00:11:21,582 tourism in other directions. I, you know, I think as a 188 00:11:21,648 --> 00:11:23,650 whole, we're, you know, we've done a lot of work 189 00:11:23,717 --> 00:11:26,620 over the last 15 to 20 years trying to create 190 00:11:26,687 --> 00:11:28,622 tourism as an industry up here, getting people all 191 00:11:28,689 --> 00:11:31,058 the way up to northern Wisconsin to enjoy Lake 192 00:11:31,124 --> 00:11:33,861 Superior and the inland lakes that we have. And, 193 00:11:33,927 --> 00:11:36,530 and we've done a really good job of that. But what 194 00:11:36,597 --> 00:11:38,966 we've really been trying to do is subsequently also is 195 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:42,002 to try to do that in the shoulder seasons and in the 196 00:11:42,069 --> 00:11:45,839 winter, to expand tourism in those areas. And the big 197 00:11:45,906 --> 00:11:48,809 problem with Mr. Tiffany's bill at this point in time 198 00:11:48,876 --> 00:11:52,079 is that we don't know where the infrastructure is going 199 00:11:52,145 --> 00:11:56,383 to come to support it. >> Infrastructure like 200 00:11:57,050 --> 00:12:00,554 roads and lodging and parking. But but wouldn't 201 00:12:00,621 --> 00:12:05,025 the Federal Park Service be responsible for that? 202 00:12:05,092 --> 00:12:08,095 >> Well, we are responsible as a county for our roads 203 00:12:08,161 --> 00:12:10,664 and I mean the highway department for our county 204 00:12:10,731 --> 00:12:14,268 roads and county. Highway 13 is what gets you up to 205 00:12:14,334 --> 00:12:16,870 Bayfield. It runs through Washburn, which is also a 206 00:12:16,937 --> 00:12:19,973 small city about 12 miles south of Bayfield. And that 207 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,576 is also sort of a gateway point to the Apostle 208 00:12:22,643 --> 00:12:26,680 Islands, as well as north of Bayfield, where the Red 209 00:12:26,747 --> 00:12:30,417 Cliff Lake Superior Band of Ojibwe live. About two 210 00:12:30,484 --> 00:12:32,553 miles north of Bayfield is where the reservation 211 00:12:32,619 --> 00:12:34,788 starts. And they have treaty rights, of course, 212 00:12:34,855 --> 00:12:38,025 to the area. The big. Another issue that we've 213 00:12:38,091 --> 00:12:42,663 we've been sort of trying to address is the treaty 214 00:12:43,430 --> 00:12:47,100 rights and the fact that we've. We've invited Mr. 215 00:12:47,167 --> 00:12:50,337 Tiffany to come. We want to be a part of the dialog. We 216 00:12:50,404 --> 00:12:53,273 want to share our concerns and our questions, have our 217 00:12:53,340 --> 00:12:57,244 questions heard. But he hasn't come. And so we 218 00:12:57,311 --> 00:13:00,380 received about a year and a half ago or we. And by that 219 00:13:00,447 --> 00:13:03,483 I mean the County Board and the Red Cliff Tribal 220 00:13:03,550 --> 00:13:07,921 Council first heard about Mr. Tiffany's bill 221 00:13:07,988 --> 00:13:13,160 resolution H.R. 9111. And when we heard about it, we 222 00:13:13,227 --> 00:13:16,163 found out that the resolution had basically 223 00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:18,999 already been written and was already on its way to 224 00:13:19,066 --> 00:13:22,970 Washington, D.C. without consultation with the 225 00:13:23,036 --> 00:13:27,074 county board or the City of Bayfield or the Tribal 226 00:13:27,140 --> 00:13:30,544 Council. And so we never got a chance to express our 227 00:13:30,611 --> 00:13:33,046 concerns or ask our questions. And that pretty 228 00:13:33,113 --> 00:13:37,451 much left us in an area of the only option that we 229 00:13:38,151 --> 00:13:41,421 have left at the federal level is to enact some 230 00:13:41,488 --> 00:13:43,690 resolution. So that's what we did. We don't normally 231 00:13:43,757 --> 00:13:47,094 like to enact negative resolutions. We like to 232 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,030 work in the positive. And but this is an instance 233 00:13:50,097 --> 00:13:53,333 where we felt that since we hadn't been heard or 234 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,702 consulted, that we really didn't have another option. 235 00:13:55,769 --> 00:13:58,672 >> What would you be seeking from the federal 236 00:13:58,739 --> 00:14:01,041 government or the Federal Park Service to make this 237 00:14:01,108 --> 00:14:04,444 thing work? >> I think, first of all, 238 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:09,183 what we've never heard is an as a as a deeper 239 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:13,754 explanation of why the National Lakeshore 240 00:14:15,355 --> 00:14:18,225 designation is already a part of the Park Service. 241 00:14:18,292 --> 00:14:21,361 It's a part of the national parks programing of 242 00:14:21,428 --> 00:14:24,865 designation of land matter and bodies of water. So. 243 00:14:24,932 --> 00:14:28,502 And right now, as the National Lakeshore, it is 244 00:14:28,569 --> 00:14:32,172 at one of the highest, if not the highest level of 245 00:14:32,239 --> 00:14:36,109 protection, because it is a wild area. It's a it's a 246 00:14:36,176 --> 00:14:37,911 wilderness area. Even though people live in these 247 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:40,981 small communities on the shoreline, the lake itself 248 00:14:41,048 --> 00:14:44,318 and the islands are subject to very dramatic weather 249 00:14:44,384 --> 00:14:48,522 shifts and very cold water that as as we know of 250 00:14:48,589 --> 00:14:51,825 anybody who knows this area knows, has been responsible 251 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:56,296 for hundreds of deaths, either in ships or boats or 252 00:14:56,363 --> 00:14:59,099 people out kayaking or, you know, canoeing, who aren't 253 00:14:59,166 --> 00:15:03,904 familiar with how unpredictable this very big 254 00:15:03,971 --> 00:15:07,040 lake, which is actually more of an inland sea, how 255 00:15:07,107 --> 00:15:09,142 quickly the weather can change, how cold the water 256 00:15:09,209 --> 00:15:11,778 is, and how prepared and knowledgeable you have to 257 00:15:11,845 --> 00:15:15,716 be in order to embark on it. So that's one of our 258 00:15:15,782 --> 00:15:19,286 concerns, is just the safety of it, of it all as 259 00:15:19,353 --> 00:15:22,022 well. >> Well, we will we will 260 00:15:22,656 --> 00:15:26,760 watch this bill as it as it moves through and prepare 261 00:15:26,827 --> 00:15:30,264 to visit and do some field reporting up there. 262 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:33,000 >> We'd love to have you come up, take a look, enjoy. 263 00:15:33,066 --> 00:15:35,202 The area. >> All right. Jan Lee from 264 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:37,504 Bayfield County. Thanks very much. 265 00:15:37,571 --> 00:15:41,642 >> Thank you. >> Our political reporters 266 00:15:41,708 --> 00:15:45,179 covered Tom Tiffany at the state GOP convention, as he 267 00:15:45,245 --> 00:15:48,549 was officially endorsed as the Republican candidate 268 00:15:48,615 --> 00:15:51,818 for governor. Tiffany was also in the mix during last 269 00:15:51,885 --> 00:15:54,821 week's failed vote at the Capitol over tax relief and 270 00:15:54,888 --> 00:15:57,925 public school funding, purportedly calling 271 00:15:57,991 --> 00:16:01,795 lawmakers to kill the deal. A new report out of the 272 00:16:01,862 --> 00:16:04,631 Legislative Fiscal Bureau says if it had passed, it 273 00:16:04,698 --> 00:16:07,935 could have put the state's budget in a nearly $3 274 00:16:08,001 --> 00:16:11,405 billion deficit in a few years. Let's hear what they 275 00:16:11,471 --> 00:16:15,275 had to say about it on this week's Inside Wisconsin 276 00:16:15,342 --> 00:16:17,678 politics. >> I think when you're 277 00:16:17,744 --> 00:16:22,382 looking at a 2.95 billion projected budget deficit at 278 00:16:22,449 --> 00:16:25,152 the end of the next two year budget, not the one we 279 00:16:25,219 --> 00:16:28,355 are now, but the one after that feels real to me. And 280 00:16:28,422 --> 00:16:30,023 I mean, just looking through those numbers, 281 00:16:30,090 --> 00:16:32,125 right? >> And, you know, the sort 282 00:16:32,192 --> 00:16:34,261 of important caveat is that that number from the 283 00:16:34,328 --> 00:16:36,096 Legislative Fiscal Bureau doesn't take into account 284 00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,966 the fact that we are in a period of sort of 285 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:42,069 remarkable economic so it says that we would 286 00:16:42,135 --> 00:16:44,238 have that deficit, that sort of almost $3 billion 287 00:16:44,304 --> 00:16:46,406 deficit were this to have passed. And that's not 288 00:16:46,473 --> 00:16:49,009 accounting for potential changes to tax revenue, to 289 00:16:49,076 --> 00:16:51,678 the fact that there's like a war going on right now 290 00:16:51,745 --> 00:16:53,814 that is affecting oil and gas prices, all these 291 00:16:53,881 --> 00:16:55,816 different things. And so from all of the Democrats 292 00:16:55,883 --> 00:16:58,585 who voted against it, and then also from the 293 00:16:58,652 --> 00:17:01,688 Republicans who voted concern about the cost of 294 00:17:01,755 --> 00:17:03,790 this thing, which was kind of nebulous. And so even 295 00:17:03,857 --> 00:17:06,627 with those kind of firmer numbers, it, you know, 296 00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:08,896 justifies, I think, what some of those lawmakers 297 00:17:08,962 --> 00:17:11,732 were saying on the floor. But it also kind of points 298 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:14,535 to this, again, political gamesmanship that we often 299 00:17:14,601 --> 00:17:16,937 see when it comes to appropriations, which is 300 00:17:17,004 --> 00:17:20,407 what is what is our money for? What is our state 301 00:17:20,474 --> 00:17:22,609 surplus for? Is it for things like this? Is it to 302 00:17:22,676 --> 00:17:25,479 have kind of in our back pockets? And so there was 303 00:17:25,546 --> 00:17:27,614 that was really the contours of the fight. 304 00:17:27,681 --> 00:17:30,717 >> We had a state GOP convention over this past 305 00:17:30,784 --> 00:17:33,253 weekend. Tom Tiffany is now the endorsed candidate. He 306 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,822 doesn't have to worry about a primary the way that the 307 00:17:35,889 --> 00:17:39,993 candidates had to in 2022, so he can focus on the 308 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:44,031 general election now. And yet, Zac, we're talking 309 00:17:44,097 --> 00:17:46,433 about the 2020 election here. What is Tom Tiffany 310 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,736 talking about? >> He cannot get away from 311 00:17:49,803 --> 00:17:52,039 Trump's main grievance, which is the fact that he 312 00:17:52,105 --> 00:17:55,542 lost to Joe Biden in 2020. And because he still has 313 00:17:55,609 --> 00:17:57,811 such a powerful grip over the Republican Party 314 00:17:57,878 --> 00:18:00,314 nationally, which we just saw in Republican primaries 315 00:18:00,380 --> 00:18:03,450 in Kentucky and in Louisiana, Senate races, 316 00:18:03,517 --> 00:18:06,453 that his people have to fall in line on his beliefs 317 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,556 or his incorrect beliefs that the 2020 election was 318 00:18:09,623 --> 00:18:12,426 stolen. So Tom Tiffany is still answering questions 319 00:18:12,492 --> 00:18:15,395 about election fraud investigations and whether 320 00:18:15,462 --> 00:18:18,198 Joe Biden won the election with, you know, kind of 321 00:18:18,265 --> 00:18:20,934 diffusing or deferring and trying to get away from it 322 00:18:21,001 --> 00:18:23,036 because he can't come out and honestly say, no, of 323 00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:25,038 course Trump lost. That's been warranted over and 324 00:18:25,105 --> 00:18:27,407 over. Every Republican group out there, from Vos 325 00:18:27,474 --> 00:18:29,676 to the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty has 326 00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:32,379 already said so. And that is something that Democrats 327 00:18:32,446 --> 00:18:34,615 love to hear, because they will continue to hang that 328 00:18:34,681 --> 00:18:37,417 around his neck all the way to November as much as they 329 00:18:37,484 --> 00:18:39,653 possibly can, the closer they tie him to Donald 330 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,256 Trump. And these grievances from four years, six years 331 00:18:42,322 --> 00:18:44,458 ago now that the better off it is for them. 332 00:18:44,525 --> 00:18:47,427 >> And Anya, just real quick, I mean, it seems 333 00:18:47,494 --> 00:18:50,531 like this is an issue where as much as he wants to go 334 00:18:50,597 --> 00:18:53,367 for those handful of voters who are in the middle, this 335 00:18:53,433 --> 00:18:55,469 is a line that he can't cross as far as Republicans 336 00:18:55,536 --> 00:18:57,571 are concerned. >> Yeah. I mean, I think 337 00:18:57,638 --> 00:19:00,574 one of the lessons from this week is that in state 338 00:19:00,641 --> 00:19:03,477 politics, it's not the time if you are a Republican to 339 00:19:03,544 --> 00:19:06,513 be bucking Trump. And so we are seeing him sort of tie 340 00:19:06,580 --> 00:19:08,582 himself again to this issue. And it'll be interesting to 341 00:19:08,649 --> 00:19:12,186 see how much does that motivate his Republican 342 00:19:12,252 --> 00:19:14,755 that turn off those moderate voters and 343 00:19:14,821 --> 00:19:17,758 >> When it comes to college life? Burlington, Vermont, 344 00:19:17,824 --> 00:19:21,728 city of Madison are connected by one house 345 00:19:22,663 --> 00:19:25,666 Mansfield Hall tonight, "Here& Now". Reporter Murv 346 00:19:25,732 --> 00:19:28,602 Seymour takes us inside the dorm that provides a one of 347 00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:32,039 a kind college experience for students in all three 348 00:19:32,105 --> 00:19:35,108 states. >> I would love a giant MH 349 00:19:37,411 --> 00:19:40,280 out front to match the other Greek letters. 350 00:19:40,347 --> 00:19:42,449 >> Nestled on the busy street known as Fraternity 351 00:19:42,516 --> 00:19:44,685 Road near UW-Madison. >> You find a community. 352 00:19:44,751 --> 00:19:46,787 >> Here is a former frat house. 353 00:19:46,854 --> 00:19:49,656 >> We are college housing that is a lot more than 354 00:19:49,723 --> 00:19:52,659 just college housing. >> That is home away from 355 00:19:52,726 --> 00:19:53,994 home. >> You don't just live here. 356 00:19:54,061 --> 00:19:57,397 You thrive here. >> I'm Ashley. I'm from 357 00:19:57,464 --> 00:20:00,601 Chicago. The city of Chicago. And this is 358 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:03,136 Mansfield Hall. >> Mansfield Hall is a 359 00:20:03,203 --> 00:20:05,873 living and learning community that serves 360 00:20:05,939 --> 00:20:09,042 college students that are neurodiverse or diverse 361 00:20:09,109 --> 00:20:13,313 learners. It can include someone with ADHD, autism, 362 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:16,183 any kind of learning difference like dysgraphia 363 00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:20,587 or dyslexia, processing disorders, anxiety. 364 00:20:21,989 --> 00:20:24,725 >> Oh, here we go. >> This is brilliant. Good 365 00:20:24,791 --> 00:20:26,727 find. >> I'm glad I thought of 366 00:20:26,793 --> 00:20:29,296 this. students. We have students 367 00:20:29,363 --> 00:20:31,665 from around the country. We support students at Madison 368 00:20:31,732 --> 00:20:34,735 College, at Edgewood University, and at the 369 00:20:34,801 --> 00:20:36,703 University of Wisconsin, Madison. It can look like 370 00:20:36,770 --> 00:20:40,407 course planning. We do student life support, med 371 00:20:40,474 --> 00:20:42,476 management, learning how to cook, learning how to make 372 00:20:42,543 --> 00:20:46,079 friends, learning how to communicate, executive 373 00:20:46,146 --> 00:20:49,249 functioning. So setting up systems of support for 374 00:20:49,316 --> 00:20:51,251 yourself. >> Because your Edgewood is 375 00:20:51,318 --> 00:20:52,920 probably going to be first week. 376 00:20:52,986 --> 00:20:55,322 >> This floor is all bedrooms. And of course 377 00:20:55,389 --> 00:20:58,192 this one is mine. So come on in. 378 00:20:58,792 --> 00:21:02,029 >> At this super dorm. >> It's almost like it was 379 00:21:02,095 --> 00:21:04,431 written in the stars. >> As it's sometimes called. 380 00:21:04,498 --> 00:21:06,934 Sure, you'll find plenty of puzzles and games. 381 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,404 >> Oh, okay. There. Because they are weighted 382 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:12,439 differently. That's what changed. 383 00:21:12,506 --> 00:21:15,342 >> But they do business here too. There are nearly 384 00:21:15,409 --> 00:21:17,477 two dozen students here. Don't just learn to learn 385 00:21:17,544 --> 00:21:20,214 more independently. >> And I just need to see 386 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,250 the numbers and how they. What happens? Yeah, yeah. 387 00:21:23,317 --> 00:21:25,686 >> You need the steps. >> They learn life lessons 388 00:21:25,752 --> 00:21:28,989 that help them live more independently. 389 00:21:29,056 --> 00:21:31,725 class either. So I really don't want to have to take 390 00:21:31,792 --> 00:21:33,927 something like that again. >> UW film student Han 391 00:21:33,994 --> 00:21:36,396 Schuberth gets one on one help planning her class 392 00:21:36,463 --> 00:21:37,998 schedule. >> Any props and successes 393 00:21:38,065 --> 00:21:40,901 of the day. >> Gavin Speranza leads the 394 00:21:40,968 --> 00:21:42,636 weekly community group. >> Well, yeah, because that 395 00:21:42,703 --> 00:21:44,838 turns into 3/6. >> Isaac Moore works 396 00:21:44,905 --> 00:21:46,640 through complex math equations during what's 397 00:21:46,707 --> 00:21:49,276 called Stemtown Katy. >> How did marketing turn 398 00:21:49,343 --> 00:21:51,712 out for you? >> A weekly tutoring 399 00:21:51,778 --> 00:21:53,780 session for those who need help with science. 400 00:21:53,847 --> 00:21:57,451 >> You still got a 92, though. That's awesome. 401 00:21:57,518 --> 00:21:59,953 >> Technology in math. >> What worked? Like what? 402 00:22:00,020 --> 00:22:04,124 What helped overcome the testing anxiety. Just 403 00:22:04,191 --> 00:22:05,893 prepared. >> The staff here are super 404 00:22:05,959 --> 00:22:08,262 helpful. >> Alissa, Sarah, Naomi. 405 00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:10,664 Eric and Koko. The canine who casually provides 406 00:22:10,731 --> 00:22:13,300 therapy for the house as needed. Are some of the 407 00:22:13,367 --> 00:22:16,537 almost two dozen staff at Mansfield Hall. Isaac Moore 408 00:22:16,603 --> 00:22:18,705 tells me he lives with Attention Deficit disorder. 409 00:22:18,772 --> 00:22:23,076 For him, it's hard to focus and stay organized. 410 00:22:23,143 --> 00:22:25,179 >> It never really impacted my school, so there was 411 00:22:25,245 --> 00:22:28,081 never any reason to like, change it. You know, I 412 00:22:28,148 --> 00:22:31,018 would still do well on my tests and stuff. And so it 413 00:22:31,084 --> 00:22:33,153 was like, whatever. But here, like, I really do 414 00:22:33,220 --> 00:22:36,123 have to like, you know, I have a schedule and I have 415 00:22:36,190 --> 00:22:39,026 like a meeting with Eric once a week to make sure 416 00:22:39,092 --> 00:22:41,295 that I'm like, if I have any questions with math, 417 00:22:41,361 --> 00:22:43,430 I'm getting those done. I have like Google calendar 418 00:22:43,497 --> 00:22:46,366 now, so all my classes are in there. So like I get 419 00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:49,203 reminders 30 minutes before class. I have this class on 420 00:22:49,269 --> 00:22:52,072 this day. I have like due dates in my Google calendar 421 00:22:52,139 --> 00:22:54,241 and stuff. I keep my work more organized. Like it's 422 00:22:54,308 --> 00:22:57,244 not just chicken scratch on eight different papers. 423 00:22:57,311 --> 00:22:59,246 >> Mansfield Hall also provides support that helps 424 00:22:59,313 --> 00:23:01,215 students transition from living at their house here 425 00:23:01,281 --> 00:23:03,750 on Fraternity Row, before they step out into the 426 00:23:03,817 --> 00:23:06,587 community, which helps them to step out in the real 427 00:23:06,653 --> 00:23:10,157 world to live on their own once they leave college. 428 00:23:10,224 --> 00:23:13,794 >> I moved into a residence hall at Edgewood. 429 00:23:13,861 --> 00:23:16,230 >> Soon, Bennett Davishoff will graduate and live in 430 00:23:16,296 --> 00:23:19,132 his first apartment. He's in what's called the 431 00:23:19,199 --> 00:23:21,134 Connections program at Mansfield Hall, designed 432 00:23:21,201 --> 00:23:23,504 for students making the transition away from dorm 433 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:26,440 life to living on their own or with a roommate. 434 00:23:26,507 --> 00:23:31,111 >> I think it's going to be very challenging, very 435 00:23:31,178 --> 00:23:35,983 tough. But I'm willing to. But I'm excited to give it 436 00:23:37,251 --> 00:23:41,822 a try because I because I've always wanted to live 437 00:23:43,724 --> 00:23:47,661 independently and I have some symptoms of OCD, ADHD, 438 00:23:47,728 --> 00:23:51,231 and autism. And I can be a perfectionist with the way 439 00:23:51,298 --> 00:23:54,501 things look in my room. I like things to look orderly 440 00:23:54,568 --> 00:23:59,139 and clean, which is also a good thing, but it can also 441 00:23:59,206 --> 00:24:01,775 be hard. >> What isn't hard? 442 00:24:03,477 --> 00:24:05,746 >> Give a big round of applause for all of our 443 00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:09,550 volunteers today that came in volunteering. Thank you. 444 00:24:09,616 --> 00:24:12,119 >> We don't have chocolate milk right now, but we do 445 00:24:12,186 --> 00:24:14,555 have no fat. I think. >> The Senior center in 446 00:24:14,621 --> 00:24:16,790 Madison is one of many organizations around town 447 00:24:16,857 --> 00:24:19,426 where people from Mansfield Hall lend a helping hand 448 00:24:19,493 --> 00:24:21,862 every week. >> Oh yeah. Definitely. 449 00:24:21,929 --> 00:24:24,665 Where are the milks? >> Aiden Mattingly and 450 00:24:24,731 --> 00:24:27,534 everyone else say giving back helps them get job 451 00:24:27,601 --> 00:24:29,570 ready. >> Bandana person wants 452 00:24:29,636 --> 00:24:32,472 salt and pepper. >> And it helps them gain 453 00:24:32,539 --> 00:24:35,108 something else. >> I'd say the social 454 00:24:35,175 --> 00:24:38,078 skills really it really helps with like talking 455 00:24:38,145 --> 00:24:41,515 with people. And I mean like everyone here is 456 00:24:41,582 --> 00:24:43,817 really friendly. >> And some of those skills 457 00:24:43,884 --> 00:24:48,355 can go from volunteering, can go out, can be utilized 458 00:24:48,422 --> 00:24:51,291 in when applying for jobs. >> Can give you the 459 00:24:51,358 --> 00:24:54,628 troublemaker ticket. Oh. >> One of the senior 460 00:24:54,695 --> 00:24:57,531 centers lead volunteers Kat Hemming loves to give. And 461 00:24:57,598 --> 00:25:00,000 she loves the crew at Mansfield Hall. Without the 462 00:25:00,067 --> 00:25:02,002 help of Aiden and the others. 463 00:25:02,069 --> 00:25:05,639 >> All right, let's go to the next table. 464 00:25:05,706 --> 00:25:08,375 >> She says they would probably only have two 465 00:25:08,442 --> 00:25:11,211 volunteers. >> Having the volunteers 466 00:25:11,278 --> 00:25:14,915 come in, not only do they talk to the to the seniors 467 00:25:14,982 --> 00:25:17,818 and it has more interaction. It's a lot more exciting. 468 00:25:17,885 --> 00:25:20,988 And they really help. And they're not just I know it 469 00:25:21,054 --> 00:25:22,990 helps them, but it helps us as well. 470 00:25:23,056 --> 00:25:25,592 >> I also don't want to take myself out of this 471 00:25:25,659 --> 00:25:27,895 class. >> Yeah, I wouldn't either. 472 00:25:27,961 --> 00:25:31,865 >> Did I tell you all my second exam scores. 473 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:35,602 >> For your current classes? No. 474 00:25:35,669 --> 00:25:38,906 Hall is straightforward. >> To provide equitable 475 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:42,209 access to higher education and to prepare young adults 476 00:25:42,276 --> 00:25:46,346 for the world that can be getting a certificate. It 477 00:25:46,413 --> 00:25:48,715 can be getting an associate's, a bachelor's, 478 00:25:48,782 --> 00:25:52,953 a master's. It can be learning to make a friend 479 00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:55,689 group for the first time and just try out college 480 00:25:55,756 --> 00:25:57,891 courses. It can be finding something they're 481 00:25:57,958 --> 00:25:59,626 passionate about, feeling seen and heard for the 482 00:25:59,693 --> 00:26:01,495 first time. >> Now. 483 00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:04,364 >> For students to make the most out of being part of 484 00:26:04,431 --> 00:26:06,533 the Mansfield Hall family. Kirstin Bowns hopes every 485 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,870 one of them will. >> Lean into it. We're not 486 00:26:09,937 --> 00:26:13,106 writing the script. We're just supporting their story. 487 00:26:13,173 --> 00:26:15,008 >> Reporting from Madison. I'm Murv Seymour for Here 488 00:26:15,075 --> 00:26:17,978 and Now. >> For more on this and 489 00:26:18,045 --> 00:26:20,647 other issues facing Wisconsin, visit our 490 00:26:20,714 --> 00:26:23,851 website at PBS Wisconsin Education and then click on 491 00:26:23,917 --> 00:26:26,954 the news tab. That's our program for tonight. I'm 492 00:26:27,020 --> 00:26:29,189 Frederica Freyberg. 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