1
00:00:01,168 --> 00:00:04,638
>> In Saint Croix County.
I'm Erica Ayisi for "Here&

2
00:00:04,705 --> 00:00:07,608
Now".
>> This week "Here& Now",

3
00:00:08,375 --> 00:00:11,578
senior political reporter
Zac Schultz sat down with

4
00:00:11,645 --> 00:00:15,115
the two candidates for the
Wisconsin Supreme Court

5
00:00:15,182 --> 00:00:18,485
election, Appellate Court
Judge Maria Lazar and

6
00:00:18,552 --> 00:00:21,488
Appellate Court Judge Chris
Taylor. Over the next two

7
00:00:21,555 --> 00:00:24,625
weeks, we'll have extended
interviews with the

8
00:00:24,691 --> 00:00:27,060
candidates. But this week,
we wanted to show you their

9
00:00:27,127 --> 00:00:30,397
reactions to some questions
about ICE enforcement in

10
00:00:30,464 --> 00:00:33,500
Minneapolis.
>> There's obviously a lot

11
00:00:33,567 --> 00:00:35,569
of controversy over ICE's
engagements in Minnesota

12
00:00:35,636 --> 00:00:37,671
right now. There's
speculation that that could

13
00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:41,742
be moving to Wisconsin.
What role would the

14
00:00:43,010 --> 00:00:45,479
Wisconsin court system have
when we've heard some local

15
00:00:45,546 --> 00:00:48,148
law enforcement say they
will not work with federal

16
00:00:48,215 --> 00:00:50,317
officials, some say they
will work with when it

17
00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:53,187
comes to protesters rights.
How do you see Wisconsin

18
00:00:53,253 --> 00:00:55,455
courts getting involved in
this, or is this strictly a

19
00:00:55,522 --> 00:00:58,725
federal issue?
the circumstances. You

20
00:00:58,792 --> 00:01:01,161
never want to see anyone
injured or lose their life.

21
00:01:01,228 --> 00:01:03,797
That's a tragedy in all
respects, in every case.

22
00:01:03,864 --> 00:01:07,100
But I think that cooler
heads have to prevail.

23
00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:09,369
There is a right to First
Amendment freedom of speech,

24
00:01:09,436 --> 00:01:12,072
but I also believe that
this is an excellent

25
00:01:12,139 --> 00:01:15,542
example of why we need our
courts. In this case, it's

26
00:01:15,609 --> 00:01:17,911
probably federal courts,
but why we need our courts

27
00:01:17,978 --> 00:01:21,815
to be fair, impartial and
independent, to look at the

28
00:01:21,882 --> 00:01:25,652
facts, to make a reasoned,
calm decision, and to do so

29
00:01:25,719 --> 00:01:28,555
fairly, unjustly.
>> Certainly. I will tell

30
00:01:28,622 --> 00:01:31,725
you, Zach, as I go out
around the state, I think

31
00:01:31,792 --> 00:01:35,162
that Wisconsinites are
really concerned by what

32
00:01:35,229 --> 00:01:38,665
they're seeing in Minnesota.
They're afraid, and I don't

33
00:01:38,732 --> 00:01:43,637
blame them. Courts, state
courts must make sure that

34
00:01:45,973 --> 00:01:50,477
every person who violates
the law is held accountable.

35
00:01:50,544 --> 00:01:54,414
So in Minnesota, they
should do their full and

36
00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:57,417
fair investigation, and
then they will make a

37
00:01:57,484 --> 00:02:00,387
decision that state about
whether criminal charges

38
00:02:00,454 --> 00:02:03,090
will be brought and they
should be able to do that.

39
00:02:03,156 --> 00:02:06,326
So yes, state courts
absolutely could be

40
00:02:06,393 --> 00:02:09,696
involved because criminal
charges are brought in

41
00:02:09,763 --> 00:02:13,166
state courts. Typically
nobody is above the law.

42
00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:18,238
The Constitution applies to
everyone. And so I think

43
00:02:18,305 --> 00:02:22,176
that we will see some
involvement or potentially

44
00:02:22,242 --> 00:02:25,312
see involvement if there
are criminal charges filed

45
00:02:25,379 --> 00:02:28,815
in the Minnesota state
courts. And that could

46
00:02:28,882 --> 00:02:31,018
happen here in Wisconsin as
well.

47
00:02:31,084 --> 00:02:33,320
>> And there was a
statement by the FBI

48
00:02:33,387 --> 00:02:35,222
director, Kash Patel, over
the weekend saying, you

49
00:02:35,289 --> 00:02:37,758
can't bring a firearm
loaded to any kind of

50
00:02:37,824 --> 00:02:40,594
protest that you want. I
want to get your reaction

51
00:02:40,661 --> 00:02:42,863
to whether that is a true
statement, in the sense

52
00:02:42,930 --> 00:02:45,065
that the First Amendment
and the Second Amendment.

53
00:02:45,132 --> 00:02:47,835
>> I would have no idea
what those rules are with

54
00:02:47,901 --> 00:02:50,204
regard to federal rules
about bringing a firearm. I

55
00:02:50,270 --> 00:02:52,472
think you're violating
possibly the Second

56
00:02:52,539 --> 00:02:54,675
Amendment, where people
have the right to conceal

57
00:02:54,741 --> 00:02:57,044
carry their right to open
carry. I wouldn't comment

58
00:02:57,110 --> 00:02:59,713
on his statement at all
whatsoever.

59
00:02:59,780 --> 00:03:02,850
>> Well, I don't know all
of the laws that the state

60
00:03:02,916 --> 00:03:07,721
of Minnesota, but I believe
they do have a concealed

61
00:03:08,789 --> 00:03:12,893
carry law. So, you know,
this investigation of what

62
00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,196
exactly happened in this
scenario will play out and

63
00:03:16,263 --> 00:03:20,267
we will find out a lot more,
and we will see if

64
00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:25,639
Minnesota makes the
decision on how they're

65
00:03:25,706 --> 00:03:28,275
going to act. Are criminal
charges going to be brought

66
00:03:28,342 --> 00:03:30,477
or other charges going to
be brought? But I don't

67
00:03:30,544 --> 00:03:33,313
specifically know all the
laws in Minnesota. But what

68
00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:38,252
I would say is everyone
should support a full and

69
00:03:38,318 --> 00:03:42,890
complete investigation into
what occurred and if there

70
00:03:42,956 --> 00:03:46,827
has been unlawful activity.
People need to be held

71
00:03:46,894 --> 00:03:49,329
accountable. But I want to
make sure that Minnesota

72
00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:52,833
has that ability to do
their investigation and

73
00:03:52,900 --> 00:03:55,936
make their conclusions
before I jump to any

74
00:03:56,003 --> 00:04:00,908
conclusions. But my gosh,
conclusions. But my gosh,
