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>> It's been two months
since Donald Trump signed

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into law his big, beautiful
bill. And while the cuts to

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Medicaid included in the
bill don't take effect

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until 2027, Democrats are
already sounding the alarm

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on the overall impact.
Joining us now is U.S.

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Senator Tammy Baldwin.
Thanks for joining us.

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>> Thanks for having me.
>> So you've been touring

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the state to talk with
providers and patients

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about these cuts. What are
you hearing?

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en visiting
critical access hospitals

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in rural areas of the state.
Their margins were thin to

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begin with before the
passage of this. Now

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they're looking at
heartbreaking decisions

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about perhaps closing off
certain departments because

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they are not profitable,
and to help them stay

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afloat. And some we know in
Wisconsin will be looking

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at shutting their doors,
particularly troublesome is

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the decision some hospitals
have made to stop having

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obstetrics delivery,
meaning that there are

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places in Wisconsin where
women have to travel

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literally hours to get the
services they need. And

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it's harming the health and
well-being of Wisconsin.

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And it's not just one small
example. You know, there

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were big nutrition cuts in
the bill. And so visiting

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food pantries and those who
are focused on food

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security and recognizing
the impact that those cuts

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are going to have. And we
also deal with an issue of

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the premium tax credits for
Affordable Care Act health

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coverage. Those will end at
the end of this year, and

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we're going to see those
impacts almost immediately.

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All of us are going to pay
more. And what's so ironic?

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You know, this is Trump's
signature legislation. He

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came into office vowing to
lower costs on everything.

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Right. Groceries, but
health care, etc. this bill

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that has just passed, which
is predominantly tax

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legislation benefiting
large corporations and the

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very richest, it's going to
bring costs up for everyone

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and especially health care
costs.

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>> Republicans claim the
bill only creates work

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requirements for Medicaid.
It doesn't push anybody off.

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>> You can't cut $1
trillion out of Medicaid

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over ten years without
kicking people off who are

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eligible. And that's what
we're going to see

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happening. But again, the
Affordable Care Act tax

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credits expire at the end
of this year. We're going

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to see a lot of
Wisconsinites losing access

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to private insurance
through the health care

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marketplace much sooner
than the impacts of the

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Medicaid cuts.
>> Now, yesterday, we saw

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the Health and Human
Services Secretary, Robert

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Kennedy, RFK, Jr. testify
before a Senate committee

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about his decision to fire
the CDC director, among

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other things, that he's
done. There's a growing

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list of Democrats and
organizations calling for

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him to be fired or resign.
Are you on that list?

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>> I am among them. I call
on him to resign. Look,

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between his massive layoffs,
mass firings, and his

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refusal to administer
grants that he's required

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by law, and the cutting
off of biomedical research

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and his choice to put his
own personal politics on

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vaccines above science is
literally endangering the

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health of Wisconsinites who
I represent. And I would

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not only call on him to
resign, but I'd call on my

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Republican counterparts,
many of whom got assurances

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directly from RFK Jr that
he would not put his own

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conspiracy theories ahead
of rock solid science as

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he's doing. And they feel
betrayed. I think, by by

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RFK Jr. And I hope they'll
stand up with me calling on

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him to resign.
>> Speaking of vaccines, we

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saw Florida announced
they're moving to eliminate

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vaccine requirements. We
have a measles outbreak in

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Oconto County in Wisconsin.
How do you draw the line

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between vaccine mandates or
requirements and personal

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health care choices that
some people make of whether

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or not to vaccinate
themselves or their

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children?
>> Well, first of all, I

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feel that it would be
incredibly unwise to start

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having a patchwork quilt of
state regulations on these.

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We need to follow the
science, and there is rock

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solid science that, like
the measles vaccine work,

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and they prevent outbreaks
like we've seen not only in

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Wisconsin but in Texas,
where two children have

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died unnecessarily. And so
I think that these

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decisions do have to be
made by parents in

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consultation with their
ors. But science needs

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to be in the lead here. And
RFK Jr has spent his career

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prior to getting nominated
as as Health and Human

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Services secretary,
peddling in these

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conspiracy theories about
vaccines. And so it's very

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dangerous to have him at
the helm right now.

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>> Switching from health
care. Earlier this week,

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the president of the
Milwaukee Police Union said

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he'd be okay with Donald
Trump deploying National

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Guard troops to Milwaukee
to Republicans running for

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governor of Wisconsin have
joined that call. Would you

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support troops in Milwaukee?
>> Look, what I support is

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safety and cracking down on
crime. And I think that,

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you know, the the National
Guard are totally unsuited.

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They sign up for guard duty
because of a different

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mission entirely. And we
should be spending those

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resources helping cities
like Milwaukee or other

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communities have the
adequate policing staff

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that they need.
>> There are a lot of

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Democratic voters around
the state that are

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frustrated with Democrats
in Washington saying they

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haven't done enough to
stand up to Donald Trump.

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What would you tell them?
What what is being done

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that maybe they aren't
seeing? Or is it more that

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could be done?
>> Look, I think that we

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have seen in this president
somebody who is willing to

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violate the Constitution,
violate the law, and where

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the the president is
breaking the law and

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violating the Constitution.
We're bringing this up in

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court. And frankly, we're
winning a lot of those

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cases. The justice system
is working in many of these

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instances. And then lastly,
it's us standing with our

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constituents and fighting
back through, through, you

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know, preparing for
elections in the ballot box,

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but also to stand up as
citizens and speak out

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against the overreaches and
against the overreaches and