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November 3rd, 2026. Head
spinning feints and fights

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in Washington this week, and
the Republican House speaker

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cut short the legislative
session as some

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congressional members
demanded votes on releasing

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the Jeffrey Epstein files.
Our next guest was among

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those who got an early
recess Wisconsin first

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Representative Bryan Steil
joins us. And thanks very

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much for being here.
>> Thanks for having me on.

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>> So first off, what is
your reaction to Toni? Evers

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not running for a third term?
>> I think what you're going

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to see is a large number of
Democrats get in the race

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and run to the left, but
what we have to do is get

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our state back on track, not
measuring things like

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education by just how much
money we're spending, but on

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how well we're doing,
whether or not students are

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being taught how to learn,
not what to know, whether or

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not we're getting the
spending. And in Wisconsin,

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under control and money back
to hard paying taxpayers, I

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think you're gonna have a
robust debate. I think at

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the end of the day, we have
a great opportunity to have

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a conservative governor once
again.

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candidate at this point?
>> No, I'm not running. I'm

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going to be running for
reelection to the House of

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Representatives. We'll watch
the Republican field play

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out. But I think we have a
large number of great,

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strong candidates who will
in one of them will

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ultimately be successful.
session was cut short, as we

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said by the speaker,
attributed to what the Wall

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Street Journal called,
quote, furor over

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disclosures from the Epstein
investigation. What's your

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reaction to the distraction
that the whole Jeffrey

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Epstein file is causing.
>> The broader media

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landscape loves to talk
about Epstein. They don't

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want to talk about the
president's success of

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securing the border, about
the positive impacts of the

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tax package that was just
passed. I think it's a lot

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to do about nothing. I think
I lean on the side of more.

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Disclosure is always a good
thing. The sunlight is the

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best disinfectant. And I
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just move forward with this,
disclose what's legally

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permissible. It's obviously
under a court seal. It's not

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under the direct control of
Congress. And then get

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really back and try to draw
the attention of the media,

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who loves to be distracted
by this. Back to the most

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important issues of the day.
>> Now, a new Marquette Law

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School national poll shows
that 41% of respondents

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support the reconciliation
bill that President Trump

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signed into law, while 59%
oppose it. Of course, with

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sharp, partisan divides, why
did you vote in favor?

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>> Look at the underlying
provisions inside the bill.

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Let's talk about what we got
done. Almost every single

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thing is not popular. Once
the American people

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understand what's in the
bill. This is about doubling

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down and making sure that
the border is secure. Wildly

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popular. The president's
moves to do that and then

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building to make sure that's
permanent a good thing.

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Investing in the military at
a period of time of

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dangerous global
instability, making sure the

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2017 tax cuts are permanent,
to build on the economic

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growth that we saw leading
into the pandemic, and then

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doubling down on that, in
particular for seniors,

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those working overtime or
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And then finally getting
spending under control. And

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this is where the
demagoguery has been

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probably the most
challenging. Putting in

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place work requirements for
able bodied, childless

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adults is an 8020 issue in
the state of Wisconsin, as

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indicated by the not so long
ago referendum. That's what

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this bill does. It actually
secures the program for

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those it was designed for
permanently disabled adults,

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children, pregnant women.
And it simply says if you're

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an able bodied, childless
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looking for work,
volunteering or working a

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minimum of 20 hours a week.
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bill, as American people
learn more and more about

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them, I think will only
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to get this country back on
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>> So the Congressional
Budget Office did estimate

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that this law will cut
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and Chip benefits by $1
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CBO says, to at least 10.5
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from the program.
>> But let's dive into those

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numbers, right, because the
numbers to try to scare

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people in the state of
Wisconsin. Wisconsin has had

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work requirements for many
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particular Snap benefits
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Governor Tommy Thompson put
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We don't have the exact work
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federal government has or
that this law passes. What

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this law does is simply say,
if you're an able bodied,

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childless adult, we want you
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going to school,
volunteering, or working 20

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hours a week. This is an 80
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If you say if you dig
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the CBO examining the
positive view that as those

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people find themselves, find
themselves with an

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opportunity to get a job, to
volunteer, that we won't see

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folks losing their, their
their health benefits, what

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we'll see is people getting
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paying job with the ultimate
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bodied, childless adults
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and receiving their health
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employer. Like many
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families in the state of
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>> What about changes to the
Affordable Care Act that I

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understand, and according to
Congresswoman Moore, will

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raise premiums and also
impose other restrictions,

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restrictions potentially
causing people to lose their

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coverage.
>> Give me give me the

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details on that. I think
what what you're taking

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there is national analysis
on the state of Wisconsin

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that doesn't apply.
Wisconsin didn't expand

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Medicaid. And so some of the
reforms are made in other

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states apply differently.
dangerous about the

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demagoguery that some
individuals want to engage

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in. They want to take a
national narrative and apply

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it to Wisconsin. Wisconsin,
I think very thoughtfully,

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did not expand Medicaid
further into the able

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bodied, childless working
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again, of the 1.2 million
individuals in the state of

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Wisconsin who currently are
on Medicaid, Tony Evers

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appointee noted that there's
about 163,000 of them that

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are that are of the
demographic that we should

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look at, able bodied,
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half of those are already
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week, going to school,
volunteering, 63,000 are not

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or are not documenting it.
And so this is about making

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sure that we're
strengthening the program

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for those that it's designed
for no changes. And in fact,

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in my opinion, strengthening
Wisconsin after the passage

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of the state budget will
actually receive about $1

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billion a year more in
federal money. We have a

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whole debate about that, but
more money is coming in. And

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so the left is trying really
hard to demagogue on this

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issue. As the facts got out,
you saw a quick pivot into

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Epstein, which was the lead
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So what we need to do is to
dive in, get the information

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out to the American people
about how we're

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strengthening the program.
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people learn more and more
about this, it's only going

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to be more popular. Again,
the work requirements in the

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state of Wisconsin had a
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>> As to the recent
Rescissions package that

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stripped appropriation
funding from USAID and the

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Corporation for Public
Broadcasting. Do you expect

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and support additional
Rescissions as a way to cut

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costs going forward?
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spending power. We're
spending almost $2 trillion

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a year more than we're
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well over $30 trillion. I
think we need to go through

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the federal budget with a
fine tooth comb to remove

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waste, fraud and abuse, look
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either other sources of
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And so I think it's
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that we're combing through
the federal budget, looking

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for ways to save taxpayer
dollars. And again, in a

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period of time where every
extra dollar we spend is

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effectively a dollar
borrowed from China, I think

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it's absolutely appropriate
to dig through the federal

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budget and look for ways to
save funds for hard working

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families.
>> U.S. Representative Bryan
