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>> The dust is settling
after passage of the federal

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tax and Spending
Reconciliation bill, which

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is now law. What stands out
for its impact in Wisconsin?

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We turn to Democratic U.S.
Representative Gwen Moore of

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Milwaukee for her take on
what it means for people in

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her district. And thanks so
much for being here.

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>> Always good to be with
you, Fredricka.

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>> So what does stand out
for its impact in your

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district and across
Wisconsin?

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thing that is most
outstanding in this bill is

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the impact that will have on
health care, on the Medicaid

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cuts. Badger care, as we
call it in Wisconsin. The

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Affordable Care Act,
Obamacare cuts. And when you

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combine the work
requirements to receive

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Medicaid and when you the
confluence of all those

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forces means that they'll
probably be something like

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276,000 people in Wisconsin
who will not receive any

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kind of health care. And
when you just just the work

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requirements themselves will
cost 68,000. Individuals

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with no dependents to lose
health care. And so the

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theory of the case is that
these are just lazy boys in

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their mama's basements
playing video games, and

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there'd be no harm and no
foul to cut them off.

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Notwithstanding the fact we
don't. We believe this. This

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is not a real person. This
is just a trope. We're

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saying that in Wisconsin, a
person who say has two

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minimum wage jobs working at
fast food restaurant, they

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will at minimum wage,
working full time. They will

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make too much money to be
eligible for Medicaid. So

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they'll be whether they work
or not. They won't receive

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Medicaid. And then there are
a number of people who are

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truly eligible. They have
children. They're already

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working. Most people who
receive Medicaid are already

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working, but the numbers of
the bureaucracy and the

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paperwork that they have
added into the bill is

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really something that they
have monetized. They have

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monetized people's mistakes
so that if you don't re-up

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or come in every six months
to reconfirm that you're

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still disabled, or that you
will find yourself off

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Medicaid, and then those of
you remember Frederica,

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Wisconsin was one of those
states. I believe it was

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about 11 states that hadn't
taken advantage of the

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expansion of the Affordable
Care Act. And those people

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will see their premiums go
eight, nine times the amount

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that they're currently
paying. So say, for example,

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they were able to get a
silver plan. And for the

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purposes of keeping the math
simple of $100 a month, they

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might find themselves with
six, seven, $800 a month. We

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are thinking that the food
share cuts snap cuts. Not

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only will it cost thousands,
hundreds of thousands of

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people to be cut off food
share, but it will also mean

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that the state itself would
have to pay 75% of the

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administrative costs of the
of the food stamp program.

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The Snap program, as well as
if there are an error rates

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in excess of 6%, they'll
find themselves having to

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pay for portions of the food
stamp program, which to date

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that burden has never been
an unfunded mandate that

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will be placed on not only
Wisconsin, but statewide. So

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it is really a bad bill.
>> People who fall off of

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Medicaid because of the
provisions of this bill and

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potentially the burdensome
kind of paperwork, what will

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they do for health care
then.

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>> That will increase the
amount of uncompensated care

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that hospitals have to pick
up. And it also means that

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hospitals will have to make
decisions about what kind of

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health care they will or
will not provide. We've seen

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in the past, just recently,
in our own community

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maternity wards, closing,
where hospitals will decide

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we aren't going to do
cardiac catheterizations

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anymore. One of the things
is, is that, you know, the

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president predicts that
people won't even pay any

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attention. They won't even
notice some of these

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provisions don't come into
effect until after the 2026

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election. But that doesn't
mean that hospitals won't

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have to start planning and
how to not deliver services.

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Now.
>> We know that the Trump

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administration is apparently
making good on its promise

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to dismantle the US
Department of Education. And

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with it, as you suggested,
funds that go to high

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poverty K-12 schools and
special education. How

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pointedly will that be felt
in Milwaukee?

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>> Oh my God. I mean, you
know, when you think about

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their raison d'etre that
there's waste, fraud and

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abuse? I mean, that to cut
education is like cutting

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the lifeline of a community.
When you think about

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preparing the future
workforce, I can see it

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causing employers to flee
the state. These Republicans

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have demonstrated a real
distaste for education. I

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mean, and every everything
from K through 12 to higher

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education, where they're,
you know, conditioning, Pell

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Grants in a way that's never
been done before. Cutting

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off those, the ability for
parents to borrow money to

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send their kids to college.
It is like a really big

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mistake that's going to put
not only Milwaukee, but the

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nation behind.
>> You've said that there is

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truly no bottom to this
bill's cruelty, but what can

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you and other opponents do
about it?

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>> Well, you know,
Frederica, I you know. I, I,

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you know, I did I did not
have a good 4th of July. I

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was very, very upset. But
you know what? It ain't over

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until it's over. I think
now, as we go through this

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process, we are going to
continue to talk about it.

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We're going to continue to
try to win the midterm

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elections, win the hearts
and souls and minds of

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people. I know I've talked
to several people who

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confess to me that they
voted for Donald Trump, but

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they had no idea that that
he was going to do the kinds

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of things that he has done
to them, because indeed, the

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president's space needs
Medicaid almost more than

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anybody. The president's
base needs snap. And they

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certainly need educational
opportunities. They're not,

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you know, and I think that.
Many people who sort of

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thought that he was going to
focus on throwing out

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violent criminals who were
immigrants and they were

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going to get rid of the
waste, fraud and abuse. And

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of course, nobody wants
waste, fraud and abuse. But

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no one knew that, that all
these cuts were just going

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to result into a big
bonanza. You know, $4.5

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trillion for wealthy people
who don't really need it.

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While there are debates
about whether or not we

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should serve breakfast and
lunch to school children,

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nobody knew that that was a
trade off.

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>> Congresswoman Gwen Moore,
thanks very much for joining

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us.
well, Rodriguez.

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>> Thank you. Next week we
>> Thank you. Next week we