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>> Democrats could block
funding for Homeland

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Security when it expires
next Friday, unless there

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are, in their words,
dramatic changes to how

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immigration operations are
conducted. This comes in

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the aftermath of the deaths
of two protesters in the

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midst of the enforcement
surge in Minneapolis. In

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Wisconsin, all six
Republican members of

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Congress voted this week
for the stopgap two week

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spending plan. Both
Democratic House members in

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Wisconsin voted against,
including U.S.

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Representative Gwen Moore
of Milwaukee. She joins us

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now from Washington. And
thanks very much for being

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here.
>> Oh, thanks for having me,

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Fredricka. Always good to
be with you.

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>> So why did you vote no.
On the stopgap spending for

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Homeland Security?
>> Well, Frederica, I was

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being very consistent. I
voted against the bill when

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it passed the House and
went on to the Senate. The

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Senate, then Senate Dems
managed to create a

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negotiation where they
split the bills.

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Theoretically, five bills
to pass as is, and the

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Homeland security bill to
have a two week stopgap.

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When it came back to the
House, I truly expected it

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to have an opportunity to
vote on separately on the

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other five bills in
Homeland Security. But I

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had exactly one vote, and I
decided to stick with my

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initial vote because of the
egregious way that these,

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you know, you know, rogue
forces were operating. And

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of course, as you mentioned,
they killed two people. And,

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and and further, they've
jailed children, American

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citizens, destroyed
property and just

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terrorized our communities.
And I just couldn't in good

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conscience, knowing that I
had an opportunity to to to

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vote and stick a pin in
this to, to to not do so.

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>> What specifically are
you and others seeking

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around these accountability
measures for agents that

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are part of these
enforcement activities?

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>> Well, thanks for asking
for me. Really common sense

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things. Anything that any
American would expect, how

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they would want to be
treated as a citizen or not.

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First of all, targeted
enforcement have probable

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cause to stop someone, not
stop someone because they

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are speaking Spanish or
because they look like a

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Somali, or they look brown,
or God forbid that they be

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a protester that's exerting
exerting their First

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Amendment rights, and they
get arrested for that, have

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a probable cause. We want
them to have no masks. I

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mean, this is horrifying.
You know, Frederica, would

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any of us tolerate masked
people not in uniform, but

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just dark clothes and
hoodies to come up and and

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and kidnap us require some
identification. What?

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What's wrong with a badge
and a badge number? We want

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state and local oversight
and coordination in these

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arrests. Police in
Wisconsin have the right to

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prosecute Ice officers if
they are using unreasonable

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force. We want body cameras
being used to record what's

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happening, not to track
people, but to record

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what's happening. And
certainly no paramilitary

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police. We want people
trained as in regular law

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enforcement duties and
standards, and we want them

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to have a judicial warrant
in order to be able to

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arrest them, not an
administrative warrant, not

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something that, you know,
Kim Bondy has drawn up, but

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a warrant, a warrant signed
by a judge.

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>> In in terms of judicial
warrants instead of

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administrative warrants.
I've heard some Republicans

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say that the requirement of
having judges sign off

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would cause gridlock in the
system and dramatically

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slow this process. What
about that?

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>> We wouldn't have a snag
in the system if, in fact,

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they were going after the
people they said they were

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going after. Got God bless
every Ice agent that finds

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a rapists and murderers and
folks like that who have

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have breached our borders.
But to just round people up

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and to have a quota so that
if they see you and I

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together, they decide to
round us up so they can get

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their quota that day, none
of that. They they are

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creating the gridlock with
these aggressive

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paramilitary activities.
>> What are your

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expectations for quick
agreement around these

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measures that you call for?
>> These are not

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extraordinary things. I
mean, these are common

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sense things. I mean, some
of the worst criminals in

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the history of this country
have not been confronted by

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agents with masks on and
hoodies. They have been

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arrested, given they're
told what their rights are

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and and they're being
reassured that they're

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being arrested by people
who have the authority to

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do it, and they've been
arrested because there was

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probable cause that they,
in fact, were the people

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that they were seeking, not
just some. They were not

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five year old kids being
scooped up in order to

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manipulate their parents
into presenting themselves

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to be arrested. This is
common. This is how hard

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could it be to come to some
agreement around common

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sense, a common sense
agenda? Just regular order.

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How about regular policing?
That's what we're asking

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for.
>> I wanted to get your

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take on the president
calling to federalize

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elections. Do you think
Wisconsin, and especially

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Milwaukee could be a target
of that?

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>> Well, just let me say
the Constitution, which the

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president seems to readily
and often infrequently

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ignore, says that states
shall run the elections. So

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this is yet another
unconstitutional thing that

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President Trump and his
sycophants want to do. I am

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so happy that Fulton County,
Georgia, is suing the

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president over the seizure,
the FBI seizure of their

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records. And I'm sad to
think that the Justice

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Department, that they are
appealing to are a bunch of,

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you know, Trump cronies.
But at some point, I hope

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that the Supreme Court will
uphold the 10th Amendment,

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the Supremacy Clause, which
Republicans have often

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relied upon for their
segregation purposes. But

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the 10th Amendment clearly
talks about a couple of

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things, like our right, for
example, to have authority,

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resting powers and
authorities in our

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jurisdictions, as well as
securing our voting

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operations.
>> On another note, you've

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also been calling for the
Wisconsin Supreme Court to

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act on congressional
redistricting. But

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resolution isn't at all
likely ahead of the

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midterms, is it?
>> Oh, absolutely. I would

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I am calling on the jurists
to look at this before our

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midterm elections with all
haste, as we see the

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president trying to steal
the 2026 election. You know,

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here we are in a state
that's 50, 50 Democrat,

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Republican. Everybody knows
that this is the this is

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the purplest of the purple
states. That's why we saw

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all the candidates
congregating here during

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the election because this
was high on this, this this

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is a prize to either side.
And yet in Congress you got

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poor men. Park Pocan
holding it down for the

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Democrats. And there is a 6
to 2. Majority for

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Republicans. And you know
what? In a 5050 state. 6 to

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2, the math just ain't math.
And Frederica.

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>> All right, Congresswoman
Gwen Moore, we leave it

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there. Thanks very much.
>> Thank you.