live. to Milwaukee, host city for the
2024 Republican National presentation of here and Now's
2024 election coverage. We are coming to you live from Media
Row inside Panther Arena in downtown Milwaukee. I'm Zach
Schultz, senior political am joined by our esteemed
political pundits, Bill McCoshen Scot Ross. Thank you gentlemen.
Both for being here today. >> Thanks for having us to be
here. >> Well, first off, let's start
with the overall atmosphere. It's hot Milwaukee, but it's a
nice day. People are here. How do you feel at the beginning of
this convention for the Republicans bill?
unified convention I've been to. This is my fifth convention. And
people here are excited about, you know, the president, they're
excited about his pick for VP at some point this afternoon, we'll
get to that during the program. And, they're just excited to get
rolling with the general election.
you're walking in here today? >> I mean, I've seen a lot of
people with smiles. Like Bill said. You know, it definitely I
was I had to squeegee off by the time I got in here because it is
a sticky mess outside. But you know, what I've noticed most is
just kind of how different sort of the two parties are in terms
of like their message, what they perceive as the facts, what they
perceive as the truth, that sort of thing. Everybody's been very
nice, but I'm seeing and hearing things that just don't compute
sometimes. shift occur in the nation in
just the last couple of days with the attempted assassination
of former President Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. We've
seen a lot of tone change and messages coming from both
President Biden speaking from the white House, telling people
to tamp down the rhetoric. We've heard it from Republicans. Bill,
what do you think is the general fallout from what happened over
the weekend going forward? >> I'm hoping it's positive and
I'll take the current president and the former president at
their word. They've been very gracious, both of them, it was a
life changing event and we were millimeters away from an actual
assassination, which not even an attempt has occurred in the
United States of America for 43 years. 1981 Ronald Reagan was
the last time that a president was shot at. So, it's a
troubling time. It's a dark time. But I'm hoping that it
brings people together and allows us to focus on our
differences on policy. These are this is not a civil war. These
are policy debates. And policy differences. It should never
rise to the level of violence on either side. And, you know, I
think the former first lady, Melania Trump, had the best,
statement over the weekend where she just called for calm. And I
think, if I'm choreographing the president's remarks, I know that
he's already, ripped up his original speech for Thursday
night. He's going to talk about unity. That's a win. I think if
he gives a message of us unity, world unity on Thursday night,
people are going to leave here. So fired up, it'll it'll be
like, no convention in history. >> Scott, how do you see the
fallout playing out? >> Well, it was you know, I
mean, obviously this was an unacceptable event and it took
me back. You know, I was 11 years old when Ronald Reagan,
when John Hinckley attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan. I was
at home that day. I was sick, so I was hanging out watching TV,
which is what you do. So I watched all of that unfold. And
as this was going on and I saw and heard, you know, it did take
me back to that sort of ugliness about where we were, what
happens, but where we don't want to go back to now. I will say
this. I am very proud to be a Democrat today because I did
hear so much, you know, legitimate concern for the
president, for the, you know, for the for the gentleman who
perished for the injured. And that's what we need. We need to
have decency. And I will say this, I watched President Obama,
President Biden's speech last night, and I think he's the only
one in the race who could deliver a message like that.
Violence has no place in this in this country, period. No
exceptions. We cannot allow violence to be normalized. I
agree with that 100. I'm sure Bill agrees with that 100. I
think the people agree with that 100. But we've got to make sure
that our elected officials aren't stoking the fires. I've
seen some of that even with politicians in Wisconsin, and I
don't think it's acceptable. >> So we're going to disagree on
that a little bit. I thought President Biden's remarks on
Saturday night were very good. I thought his remarks yesterday
morning were also very good. I think his remarks last night on
national television were scripted. I think he's better
than that. I think they should have come from the heart. It
should have been authentic. They should not have been on a
prompter. He could have had a couple notes in front of him.
Just tell America what you want us to do right, I he's flubbed a
few times last night reading off that prompter, so there clearly
weren't his words. So yeah, generally speaking, I'm giving
him credit and I think he was good Saturday night and Sunday
morning last night. I think it was a misstep on the president's
part. real tone change, Scott? I mean,
can you trust when Donald Trump says, I'm going to change my
tone? because so far the campaign has
been about retribution and revenge for he and his wealthy
donor donors. Whereas, you know, Joe Biden gets up every day and
he is trying to fight for the people of Wisconsin and the
people of America. So I don't I think it's going to be hard to
say that because, again, we've seen some of the biggest
luminaries in the Republican Party, Marjorie Taylor Greene,
Lauren Boebert, you know, attacking Biden and blaming him
for the assassination attempt. And in fact, our own congressman
in western Wisconsin, Derrick Van Orden. You know, his
response to it was, to quote the NRA's, you know, stand your
ground. And then, you know, he was on the radio earlier this
morning and talking about that somehow they were behind this.
It wasn't a they it was a lone nut bag, you know, from Bethel
Park, Pennsylvania, registered Republican. Not that that
matters. Who was behind this? It wasn't some sort of conspiracy.
And to try and insert that into this debate at this time,
especially today, when Republicans should be, you know,
like Bill said, celebrating their unity, what they want to
do for the for the country. I think it was unfortunate that we
that we've continued to see and hear and read things like that.
>> Yeah, I think those are limited. And I would say this my
biggest concern is, is this investigation, how long is it
going to take? I think it needs to be immediate right. And I
think, the director of the Secret Service should be,
relieved of her duties, this was a massive security failure. How
can someone get on a roof 150 yards from a major candidate for
president? Makes no sense to me. And the fact yesterday, there
was some reporting that the sniper from the US Secret
Service actually had this guy in his scope for a couple minutes
before the shooting started. Why didn't he get the green light?
Why didn't he just execute and move forward? It doesn't make
sense that we would allow that to happen on Saturday. So I
think we're going to have to get to the bottom of that for both
candidates, frankly. >> But when it comes to
independents, Democrats, moderates, Republicans who who
may like what Trump may stand for policy wise but have moved
away from him tone wise, what will it take for them to trust
what Trump says in terms of his new tone, his new unity message
that he'll actually follow through if he becomes president?
When he's been talking about being a dictator for day one, I
think, Thursday nights is a great opportunity for him to
reset the tone going forward. >> I think there's two major
takeaways, Zach, from the last three weeks that are imagery
that will last with voters all the way until November, the
first being the debate where President Biden looked weak.
That's as far as I'll go. I'll be kind about it. And then
Saturday, when Donald Trump was nearly assassinated, he gets up
and he pumps his fist. He looks strong. And so that's the image
that's in voters minds right now. That one weak candidate,
one strong candidate. And I think that works to Trump's
benefit. And as we started the program, I mean, there are new
polling out today that shows Trump leading in all of the
swing states. So I think Republicans here have a skip in
their step. And there's a long way to go. There's 113 days to
go. I don't think anyone should take anything for granted. I
agree with Scott. This is ultimately going to be a close
race, including in Wisconsin, position right now.
Donald Trump pumping his fist with blood coming out of his
mouth and in his ear, what were your thoughts like? Oh, you
know, Democrats just lost the race or is this.
>> No, I didn't think of that. I thought about the country first.
I mean, I'm not going to lie, like I was. What is going on
here? How can we how can this be happening? You know, and so I
think that, you know, this has to you know, we have to, you
know, we have a political campaign. It is I still believe,
despite, you know, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump,
it still is, you know, a very serious contest for the
direction of how the country is going to go, not just for now,
but I think decades from now. And that is very serious. But we
also have to, you know, note what happened. We've got to you
know, respect the fact that the lives were, you know, a life was
lost. And we need to make sure that we're doing what has to
happen to bring this country together. Now, the problem is,
is Bill knows, you know, governance is supposed to be
about bringing people together to solve problems. Campaigns
have been about dividing people, you know, cutting off. And I
know, you know, trying to rev up your base. Yeah. Exactly. How do
you break it off? And I guess we'll see here in the state of
Wisconsin, because I at least think Donald Trump can be
president without winning Biden can be president without
winning Wisconsin. So what's going to happen over the next
113 days to make sure that you're picking up those swing
voters that you need? I think the message of the Republicans
is going to be problematic for that. And we'll see how the tone
changes if they can soften their policy a little bit, which I you
know, which again, is a is a is a tall order, given what we're
hearing about their policies. >> I think last week, the
announcement of the agenda 47, which is the Republican platform
that will be approved today, by the delegates on the convention
floor, set the standard. It's simple, easy to understand. It
focuses on the issues people care about, and it minimizes
those that divide us. Right. Like abortion, so I think that
was well crafted. And it's simple for any voter of any
level of interest to, to pay attention to.
>> So we'll come back to the platform a little bit later. But
I do have a staying on the tone of what's changed since the
weekend. Even before that event, there were concerns about
violence in Milwaukee during this week. Would there be white
nationalists coming up? Would proud Boys be popping out of a
U-Haul and engaging with counter-protesters after today,
do you think there will be political violence this week in
Milwaukee? >> Not from the right. I mean,
you think about it. You know, our candidate was nearly
assassinated on Saturday night. No cities were lit on fire like
Kenosha or Minneapolis. No buildings were looted, like
Oakland, California, or many other places across the country.
That's not how we act on our side. I don't expect that. I
think Donald Trump will make sure that that does not happen,
but I have never again. This is my fifth convention. I've never
seen more law enforcement in my lifetime. So if there's any
benefit from Saturday night and I want to make sure I'm careful
about it, this place is locked down.
>> Do you expect any conflict between the. Not necessarily in
the perimeter, but between protesters on the fringes?
>> I certainly hoping not. I mean, you know, again, people
are inflamed about a lot of different things, you know, and
unfortunately, we can't we can't forget what's happened, you
know, before Saturday, which is, you know, we had a president in
Donald Trump who, you know, with the Proud Boys stand up and you
know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We had, you know, notions
of him, he and Republicans mocking when the speaker when
speaker Pelosi's, you know, octogenarian husband was
attacked with a, with a hammer, you know, they have I think that
they have some atonement amends to do to make sure that people
believe that they that they really are not condoning
violence because there's been a lot of, a lot of terrible
record. And there's certainly record. There's certainly
the level of elected officials that we've seen it on, on, on
the right. And I think that's where the real challenge is.
>> All right. We have breaking news. I've just been told that
JD Vance is the pick for VP. First reactions.
one in the field, 39 years old. He's a brand new senator. He's
an author. He's a military veteran. He's a Harvard, law
school graduate. He is the rags to riches story. This guy grew
up, with an addicted mother, a single mother and his
grandmother basically raised him and his sister, and he is
literally a rags to riches story who clawed for everything he got
in his life. And I think that's I think that will resonate with
America. >> Well, I think two things.
One, you know, he's our first, I guess, Netflix candidate because
he had his little movie on Netflix, I guess so. And I guess
the second thing is, will will it take till tonight before
Democrats have videos up of JD Vance trashing Donald Trump over
and over again, as he did in 2016.
>> Well, and the question has to be, why does Trump need a new
VP? Where's Mike pence? I mean, how much does that factor into
why do people actually care why he needs a new VP?
>> Well, I don't think so. Not on our side. You know, and
getting to I went to the welcome party last night at Summerfest
grounds, and I talked to several people who were not Donald
Trump's supporters, who are now all in after Saturday night. So
they don't I don't think they care that much who he picks. I
would have had my preference would have been someone like
Glenn Youngkin. I think he adds more to the ticket, but the more
I learn about JD Vance, I'm sure I'm going to be able to be as
excited about him and I again, I think he's got the most
compelling back story. He is Americana, literally a rags to
riches from Appalachia, to Harvard Law School to the US
military to now, the vice presidential candidate for the
Republican Party. >> I mean, does it really matter
which Republican it was? I mean, every single one of them is
going to have a point in time where they were trashing Donald
Trump because there really weren't very many that hadn't at
this point and now claim to be best friends with with him.
>> Well, I mean, yes. And no. I mean, I think the importance,
the importance here is, is why we need a new vice presidential
pick. And I think that that's I think that is important. I think
the fact that what Mike pence went through and how Donald
Trump, again, with January 6th, tried to overturn the results of
a democratically decided election in which five law
enforcement officers ended up losing their lives, 140 law
enforcement officers were injured, and we try we almost
had, you know, a coup basically overturning a democratically
was a gallows and people chanting hang Mike pence. So I
think that's really, really important to remember because
it's such an ugly stain on our on our America, not just on our
American politics. And it can never, ever something like that
happen again. But, you know, the vice presidential debate, you
know, the vice presidential fun. It certainly was fun when
Paul Ryan got his in 2012. It was the first time I ever saw
Ryan roughed up by the media, you know? And it was it was
interesting. But I do think, you know, again, it's going to be
you know, I think the reason that JD Vance is the nominee is
because, one, he's from Ohio and means that if he wins, the
Republican governor gets to, you know, appoint the next
successor. Two, I think because, you know, JD Vance or JD Vance
was bought and created by Peter Thiel, the Gazillionaire. I
don't even know if the word bigger than billionaire
capitalist out in out in California. Who has, you know,
staked his his his political campaign gravitas on getting
candidates over the primary who then sometimes lose in the
primaries. JD Vance is the one who didn't. Now he's going to be
Donald Trump's vice presidential pick.
the two senators that were in the finals, he and Marco Rubio.
He's not impacted by the 25th amendment or the 12th Amendment,
so he can continue to serve until they are sworn in. So Mike
DeWine, the governor of Ohio, would not have to appoint
someone until January of next year.
What's really going to be interesting? I think, in this is
from where JD Vance is, you know, where the Hillbilly Elegy
and stuff is. South southeastern Pennsylvania, which is right
next to and shares media markets with southwestern Pennsylvania,
which is a key place. And I only know that because I grew up
there. And it is a key place for Democrats to turn out the vote
in Allegheny County, which is where Pittsburgh is. And then
Republicans turning out the dark, dark red places like where
I grew up and the surrounding things. And it'll be interesting
to see how like, if there's any kind of like, oh, this is this
guy's one of us from over in Pennsylvania in that thing
normally doesn't happen because of the Cleveland Browns, but it
might happen because of JD Vance just a little bit. And again,
just a little bit could make a difference in this election.
>> We got a Steelers Browns reference in I like that yeah
excellent for Wisconsin. >> That's exactly what our
audience is looking for. >> Hey hey hey come on.
>> Speaking of Mike pence, did either of you see a statement
from him since Saturday? >> I did, yeah, he put one out
Saturday. All right. to double check.
>> He did. Okay, >> from him and his wife, Karen,
he put it out. No offense to the president. The president was in
church when this happened, so there was a delay, and then he
had to get to a studio. But pence had it out before
President Biden in terms of unifying, Republicans can
Saturday night's events actually bring some of those never-trump
Republicans back? >> I mean, can we expect Paul
Ryan or Mike pence or any of those other people, like all of
the former cabinet members that have said Trump's unfit to serve
again, will that change their position? Will they become more
quiet? become active Trump supporters.
All you have to do is look at William Barr. He was not for
Donald Trump in the primary process, and now he's defending
him fairly regularly. So I wouldn't be surprised to see
others come around as well. It's a binary choice. It is, you can
have beef or chicken, beef being trump or chicken being, Biden.
And that's the choice America has. You can choose dessert
first, but you're not. You're going to go to a bed hungry.
You're not going to get that choice. So it's really a binary
choice. And I think Republicans writ large will come around and
understand that. Do you think Paul Ryan's coming back around?
>> I don't think so. And, you know, and I'm sort of programed
to of having watched Paul Ryan for you know, 25 years that he
always, you know, sort of warms smart or the I'm sorry, not the
smart, but the, you know, the conscience saving thing. I think
he's gone. But I do want to point out this because I think
it is very interesting that we're not going to have the
George Bush show up, and we're not going to have former we're
certainly not going to have former VP Dick Cheney show up
because, you know, Trump still calling for tribunals for
members of the January 6th Commission, you know, commission
in, in, in, in the House of Representatives. So I think
that's, you know, that's a big deal. The fact that, you know,
there's no former president here when there is a Republican
president alive. You know, I know that next month when we go
to, you know, when we go to Chicago, I'm sure President
rallying up the troops. But they're not happening here for
George Bush. For which candidate? The thing for the
thing for George Bush. The thing about George Bush is that, you
know, he is that old neocon. You know, establishment, and they
don't have a real voice for that, speaking at least the
program that I've seen. So far, you know, and that's who's
talking to them. heritage, event, their, policy
day that was held just outside the secure perimeter. I happen
to see Vivek Ramaswamy speak. He he talked about project 2025,
which is I know is, you know, prior to last weekend was like
the Democrats big talking point. Do you think that still
resonates? Is that something that can still penetrate through
the media consciousness right now?
of some of the things end to no fault divorce, a complete
nationwide abortion ban, including IVF, and no exceptions
in abortion, banning protections, raising retirement
age, cutting Social Security and Medicare, eliminating the
Department of Education, tax cuts for the rich, a muslim ban
guns in the classrooms and pardoning pardoning all the
January 6th terrorist insurrectionists that policy
thing is a gold mine for Democrats to talk to the
independent and the swing voters who are going to decide this
election in the battleground states.
>> For sure, it's not Trump's. And Trump has disowned it
multiple times already. >> There are 240 people
affiliated with between project 25 and the Trump administration.
And the Trump. >> It's not on 140 interest
group in DC. They have their agenda. They're hoping to get it
passed. Trump has his agenda is agenda 47, which is the platform
the Republicans are going to approve today. And that's it. So
every time your viewers hear about project 2025, go ahead and
look it up. I've never looked it up. I have no idea what's in it.
I don't know, a single Republican who has looked at it,
but that's not the Republican agenda.
it is, if it can be tied to him. >> I guess my bigger question, I
don't think it can on the landscape today is can that
actually be tied to Trump anymore or can it penetrate
through? I guess I didn't think it could be tied to him before
Saturday night. of a chance that it can be tied
to him. Now he's going to talk about his agenda on on Thursday
night, the things that are important to him, which he
thinks are in alignment with the voters in America. And, that's
what people ought to take home is, is what he says.
>> I mean, in politics, perception is reality. And the
Democrats are going to continue to bang this, and they should,
because even if there's like some places, this tiny little
Venn diagram, you know, where the Republic where Trump's
agenda is outside of the heritage, it's small. The meat
of this is, you know, blue and yellow, making green, that's for
sure. And, you know, I just want page 451 the only valid family
is a working father married to a stay at home mother and their
children. Like this is like madness. You know, this is like,
you know, 19th century stuff. This is not where America is. We
are a much different country then. We're a better country
than that. And I think that hanging, you know, the agenda of
project 2025 under around Trump's neck in 2024 is a good
move because people are opposed to that.
>> I feel pretty good about that. If Democrats best argument
is some special interest groups agenda to use against the
president, I think we're in pretty good shape.
>> Part of why I bring this up is basically, since Trump came
down the escalator in 2015, he has defied every political death
sentence that has been out there in terms of I cannot believe a
candidate did that. He'll have to drop out of the race. You'll
have to drop out over and over and over again. He has defied
gravity in the political realm, and been able to move the
conversation on to the next thing. And I'm wondering if in
this era with social media, how fast we just had a new VP pick
come out today, how much will Saturday carry over 100 days
from now, and how many more things will we be talking about
in between there? When what will stick in voters minds?
>> There will be a lot. I mean, if we would have asked 60 days
ago, what are the 4 or 5 things that will change this race?
Neither of us would have said a horrific debate performance or
an attempted assassination. It wouldn't have made either of our
lists yet. They happen, right? So expect the unexpected. But I
don't foresee anything changing the trajectory of this race
unless Democrats replace Joe Biden. Then we'll see.
>> Do you think that the there's going to be enough things that
the Butler, Pennsylvania rally is not going to be the dominant
theme all the way through Election Day? Yeah.
>> I mean, again, I think the discussion about violence is
going to continue, most notably because I fear that Trump will
not stop with his inflections and suggestions of that as he
has throughout. You know, again, since he came down the escalator
in June 2015, but yeah, we're going to have I think we'll have
3 or 4 different races between now and then. Something will
happen. And like you said again, the normalization of some of
this activity, or at least the perception that there's so much
that's why it drives, you know, liberals like me crazy when
like, Biden has one bad debate. So we have to get rid of him.
And Trump says, you know, 16 things before I get up for
breakfast that make me go, oh my God, where am I at? You know, so
but he has been quiet recently. >> I mean, how much of that is
that Trump waking up to realizing, hey, maybe if I'm
quiet then the other guy will do it for me?
>> Well, I think, he and his team, I give Chris Lacivita his
campaign manager, and Susie Wiles, his deputy campaign
manager, a heck of a lot of credit. I mean, Trump wasn't
known for his discipline in 2016 or 2020 as a candidate. This
time, he's been very disciplined all the way through the primary
process and particularly after the debate, the old Trump would
have sort of stepped on that story and thrown Joe Biden a
lifeline. He didn't. He let it. That story lasted two full weeks
because Trump was silent, because Trump was silent, and it
was devastating and destabilizing for the Biden
campaign. And I don't think they'll recover.
know, in his performance before NATO and his hour long taking of
questions from reporters, aggressive questions from some
of the most aggressive reporters in the business, you know, and
so I think the that that's I think a non a nonissue, but what
I will say is that from last Thursday, it's been 154 days as
of last Thursday, where Trump stood before reporters and took
questions, when is that going to end? Because again, it's that
discipline. I mean, I totally get it. But once he gets in
front of reporters like it goes out the window for sure, because
he gets defensive, he gets angry, he says terrible things.
And that's, you know, and so we're going to have to see at
some point he's going to have to do an interview with you all at
some point because he hasn't not 160 days.
>> When you you mentioned the violent rhetoric. We've we've
heard a lot of rhetoric on that. This is a true both sides. There
have been Democrats saying that, you know, Trump is the next
Hitler with project 2025 and the dictator for a day. And we've
heard Trump use violent rhetoric about, you know, Proud Boys.
Stand by. >> Biden said, put him in the
bull's eye. So I'm not blaming Biden for what happened Thursday
night, but it's been it's not just one party that's used
rhetoric that is inflammatory, correct.
reason I bring this up is today, I heard from both Newt Gingrich
speaking to the Wisconsin delegation at the breakfast and
from Ramaswamy at the Heritage Foundation, who both said, we
were within a couple inches of a possible civil war. Is that not
inflammatory? In and of itself, to say that if the bullet had
hit him and killed Donald Trump, that we would be in a civil war.
I mean, is that a possibility or is it even responsible to
mention that as an alternative, I would have preferred they not
say it that way? >> I think I think America I'm
not sure how we would have recovered if the president had
former president had been assassinated. I mean, we are too
young to know when that happened. 1963. So, I'm hoping
that we never see that in our lifetime or in my children's
lifetime. It's. That would have unbelievable consequences. And I
don't know what those are. I'm not going to speculate on what
those may be. I wouldn't have chosen those words. But I think,
again, Trump survived literally by centimeters, he's got an
unbelievable opportunity to put some distance between him and
Joe Biden on Thursday night. >> Are we that close? Were we
that close to civil war? >> I think it was. If you looked
at, you know, if you looked at the internet for, you know, ten
appalling minutes after all the stuff happened, it was it was
pretty clear that things are ugly at this point. This may
turn it down a little bit. Let's see what the Republicans offer
here. If they offer, you know, if they offer a bold vision of
positivity for the future of America, you know, that might
take it down a notch. If it is ugly and nasty and things we've
seen in the past, I you know, I fear, you know, because again,
like, we don't want, you know, politics. There's no place in
America for violence. And
there's certainly no place in politics for it. And, you know,
yes, there is inflammatory rhetoric and, you know, there
lives at stake, for sure. Like the quality, you know, if you're
a trans person in America, you should fear the fact that of the
things that Trump said, you know, if you're a woman who
wants to have, you know, abortion rights, you know, you
should fear what's going on with the Republicans because Trump
got rid of Roe versus Wade as he is. He, you know, is he bragged,
and so I think that it's really, really important. The stakes are
high. But you violence is never the answer. It's not going to be
the answer in this election. And hopefully we've seen the last of
it. minutes left. Let's try and end
on a little of a positive up note. After all the necessary
punches here. Yeah. What are you looking forward to? What's a
positive thing that you that will come about from this week
either for Milwaukee, the state for Trump, for the delegates.
What are you looking for? >> I'm obviously most looking
forward to Trump's speech on Thursday night, but I'll tell
you, my two sidelights. I can't wait to hear what Ron DeSantis
and Nikki Haley have to say. I think it was very smart of the
Trump team to put those two in the speaking lineup, they were
his strongest competitors in the primary. They bring different
things to the table. I think they help unify the party. So
I'm really looking forward to hear what Ron DeSantis and Nikki
Haley have to say. And my guess is their message will be, we got
to get this done. The choice is it's a serious choice. We need
to come together. We can't sit home because we don't
necessarily agree with everything. Our nominee does or
says, but that's that's what I'm looking for is what they have to
say. And I think that's going to happen tomorrow night.
>> What are the positive or bright notes you're looking
forward to this week? >> Well, I'm looking to see the
sort of rhetoric that comes out, you know, on a policy on a
policy tip that, you know, convinces independent voters
that they have to stick with the Democratic president. That's the
thing that I think is most important to see what they're
talking about up there in terms of the things that are going to
make those voters who are going to decide this election, you
know, whether or not it turns them off or turns them on. I
think it's going to turn them off in terms of Milwaukee.
>> Could this be a better platform in terms of showcasing
this city to the country? I mean, the weather, the way the
downtown looks. I mean, what's your impression having both both
of you being familiar with the city?
I'm proud of Wisconsin. I'm glad it's here. I wish the Democrats
could actually been here in person in 2020. I think it's
good for the city. I think it'll help us attract other major
events, like an NBA all star game or maybe an MLB all star
game a second time. We had one at Miller Park at the beginning,
so I think it's great for the city, it's great for the state.
And regardless of which jersey you wear, red or blue, this is a
green event. What do you what do you think?
this has been a great showcase for Milwaukee. Hopefully it
continues to be a great showcase for Milwaukee. And you know, go
Milwaukee. >> All right. Well we'll leave
it there today. Bill Scott, thank you so much for your
insights. See you tomorrow. All right. And thank you for
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