Good afternoon and welcome to Chicago host city for the 2024
Democratic National Convention. This is a special presentation
of ""Here& Now" 2024 election coverage. We're coming to you
live from Media Row inside the United Center in downtown
Chicago. I am senior political reporter Zach Schultz, and I am
joined, as always, by our two wonderful panelists, Scot Ross,
Bill McCoshen, thank you again for coming back. We're in the
homestretch, right? Can you feel it?
>> We're almost there. All right. Let's start with last
night's speeches. We were previewing them yesterday in our
show. We had the Obamas. Which one was your home run speech of
the night, Scott? >> Well, mine was, the former
first lady, Michelle Obama's. I absolutely adored her speech. I
was listening to it on my phone, you know, and watching it, and I
just I ended up like, miles away from where I thought I was going
to be because it was so inspiring. And you heard them.
And I think you can almost hear the echoes of that, the case
that they prosecuted against Donald Trump last night, and you
could see that they really it was that, you know, we had a
thing with with with former first lady, which was when they
go low, we go high, you know, when they go low, she went for
the throat. And like in a, in, you know, in a way just tore him
to pieces. Everything, you know, the, his petty grievances, his
attacks on women just over and over again, you know, and I
yeah, it was just it was an incredible moment for as a
Democrat to hear somebody truly who has had to endure so much,
who's had to endure so much, really take him on.
>> What did you think of her line about Donald Trump may not
want the presidency when he learns it's one of those Black
jobs. think sometimes in politics, not
enough people laugh and see humor in things. I agree with
Scott. I thought hers was the strongest speech of the night,
and I think that comes with some risk, actually, for Kamala
Harris, because can she match up to that? There are a lot of
Democrats who wanted Michelle Obama to sort of fill the void
when Biden was pushed off the side, she was strong last night.
I mean, as a Republican, I'm glad that she's not their
nominee because she brought it last night. And, you know, for
me, Zach, the surprise of the night was Doug Emhoff, you know,
in sort of a quirky, almost dorky way. He was very authenti.
And I thought he connected with people and helped humanize his
wife. The nominee for president. And so I, you know, for a guy
who doesn't do this for a living, I thought Doug Emhoff
did a pretty good job last night.
with Bill. Like, if you were looking for a tone of somebody
you were auditioning to be the first, first gentleman. That was
that was the speech. And, you know, the self-deprecation sort
of, you know, yeah, I mean, it was very authentic, you know,
like anybody's dad, you know, that was the kind of thing he
did. And again, like that prelude to what the Obamas, the
case that they prosecuted, I mean, I thought it from start to
finish when Michelle Obama said, most of us will never you know,
most of us will never be afforded the grace of failing
forward. You know, again, what Donald Trump has done versus
what we all you know, what normal people face and the fact
that, you know, we will never benefit from the affirmative
action of generational wealth. After all, the Republicans have
done with DEI and what they claimed about the Obamas and all
that sort of thing, I mean, that could not have been a better
line. I think, you know, whoever Michelle Obama's speechwriter
is, please, please, please teach me your craft in case I ever
have to do that again. >> And she delivered and she
And, you know, there was a little bit of hypocrisy. The
Obamas today are not who they were 16 years ago. They were of
modest means 16 years ago. They're multi, multi
multi-millionaires with many, homes in Hawaii. And on Martha's
Vineyard. So I thought, I thought sort of the whole
bootstrap pull you up by the bootstraps was a little thick
for her. But overall she delivered the speech of the
night. he acknowledged that it was a
tough spot to have to follow was Barack Obama. And he he went for
Trump in a different way, talking about crowd size, which
was one of the things that Donald Trump has hit on over and
over again. Crowd size matters. At the same time that the United
Center was full for the Obamas, 18,000 people were estimated to
be at the Fiserv Forum in Milwaukee for a Kamala Harris
rally and the same event. Crowd size matters in that way, and
that hits Donald Trump right where it hurts him. Right, bill?
>> Yeah, I would say I'm going to give you a good and a bad
where I thought Barack Obama was very good last night was for Joe
Biden. I think he did a better job sort of setting the Biden
legacy than Biden did himself. On Monday night. I thought it
was a magnanimous the way he treated Biden last night. He was
the only one who mentioned him by name. Yeah, he was one of the
guys that shivved him a few weeks ago. But I think the exit
last night, that was classy on Obama's part. You know, as it
relates to some of the lines, Biden or Obama delivered, I
didn't think it was his best speech. I've seen him give far
better than that. I think last night he was trying to get under
Trump's skin. He understands that Trump pays attention to
things like crowd size. We talked about it on this set
yesterday. I think it's a nothing burger, at least until
the end of a campaign. And we shouldn't focus on that. We
ought to focus on issues that matter to the people.
>> Yeah, Barack Obama here is a 78 year old billionaire who has
not stopped whining about his problems since he rode down his
golden escalator nine years ago. Again, you could not have framed
what independent voters have a problem with Trump about, which
is self-interest and about the childish way in which he attacks
people. And I, you know, again, I would disagree with Bill in
the sense that I do think that former President Obama delivered
the goods. It's what the people there wanted. It's a convention.
That place was roaring loud. And, you know, he he, you know,
he stepped up for President Biden, which I thought was
fantastic. But he really was there to be the hammer.
>> Is it good for Kamala Harris that there's a night off in
between Michelle and Barack and her speech that reset the
recalibrate? They've scheduled this one.
perfection of the way that they have scheduled in terms of
building this to the crescendo of her of her speech, I think is
fantastic. >> I would imagine they may even
tone down Tim Walls speech tonight, because they do need a
day between the Obamas and her. Just for comparison purposes,
for sure. Walz is there, but also
Milwaukee Mayor Cavalier Johnson is going to be speaking. Is he
representing his brand, the Milwaukee brand, Wisconsin
Democrats. What's he what's he going to be? Yes yes he is.
>> You know, again, he has been an incredibly successful mayor
so far. You know, he brought you know, the RNC came to Milwaukee
in part because of his hard work, no doubt. You know, along
with the county executive, David Crowley, and support from both
Democrats and Republicans. And he showed that, you know, he put
put Milwaukee on stage in Milwaukee, delivered the goods.
And I think that's fantastic. And, you know, I love the fact
that, you know, our state's biggest city is doing the work
that it needs to do to promote the city to bring people in, you
know, so, yeah, we've seen we've seen the mayor walking around
here talking to different press. I think it's phenomenal. I think
it's fabulous. >> He isn't in a prime time
slot. We used to get pretty jazzed when Tommy Thompson got
national convention. >> Is that an Evers jazzed as
hell, >> when Tommy got national
speaking opportunities, it it isn't as big a deal as you might
think, unless you're in the prime time slot, but I'm sure
the mayor will do a nice job tonight. And, like Scott, I
think it's good that he's out representing Milwaukee and
to come back in terms of the Milwaukee honeymoon with
Republicans, will that last into the next legislative session?
>> Will they still remember Milwaukee with good thoughts
when it comes to the next budget?
>> I think it has a lot to do with the people involved. And
David Crowley and Cavalier Johnson have established really
strong relationships, assuming Republicans hold the majority in
both houses, which I think they will, yeah, I think they'll
still be able to get things done. It may not be as
productive as this current session was, but there was a lot
to do. >> So the other big speech of
the night is Tim Walz. Is he going to provide the contrast
with Vance, or is he there to be America's football coach?
as goofy as Doug Emhoff, but his dad in that way, a lot of the
latter, I think, on the campaign trail individually in states you
can you know, as he's introducing himself to America,
you can get away with more of the jabs.
>> But I think on this stage he's probably I'd hope he'd take
it. You know, JD Vance has at least one shot coming from the
podium, I think. But we'll see if like, you know, we'll see how
far it goes. But I think they're going to I think they're going
to lean more into the idea of America's coach. You know, what
he did and what he did in Milwaukee or I'm sorry, in
Minnesota. I'm not Laura Ingram, what he did in Minnesota. And
again, coming back to what the message of the night is, which
is strengthening democracy, you know, protecting abortion rights
or restoring abortion rights and making sure that everybody has
the chance not just to get by, but to really succeed. And I
think that's what you're going to hear tonight from all of
them. >> Listen, Walls is struggling
to we call him the Great Embellisher on our side. He's
he's struggled with his facts about his own resume, including,
oddly enough, saying his children were conceived through
IVF when they weren't. His wife said they weren't. So I think
Tim Walz needs to introduce himself here tonight. He's going
to be a punching bag for the Republicans, no question. We
think there's an opportunity to show that there's an extremely
liberal ticket. In contrast to the Trump Vance ticket. And I
don't think the whole Koch thing is going to work quite as well
as Democrats do. On the Western side of the state. I mean, this
is a guy who blew through an $18 billion surplus, then raised
taxes, another 10 billion on top of it. This is a guy who thinks
illegal immigrants ought to have free college tuition and free
health care paid for by taxpayers. So I think the more
Americans get to know Tim Walz, the less they're going to like
him. And I think there will come a point in time where the Harris
campaign is going to say, maybe this wasn't the right guy.
>> So when it comes to his record, we've already seen the
attempt to swiftboat his military service. How much does
he have to set the record straight or to clear up what he
said about whether he was in a combat zone versus how others
may have referred to him when he didn't correct them in that
moment. the independent voters, for the
independent suburban women who will inevitably decide this
election in the swing states like Wisconsin, they know that
he served 24 years. That's all that they need to know. All this
other stuff is window dressing. I understand the Republicans
trying to make an issue. They did it with the Swift boats 20
years ago. It was atrocious. And outrageous. And it took John
Kerry 30 days to respond to it. Tim Walz took care of it on day
one. It's done. I think for voters who are going to decide
this election, it's red meat for the Republicans. It's nothing
for swing voters. And in fact, I think it, you know, how could
you attack somebody who served for 24 years? Like, how do you
overcome that particular attack? And I think when it comes to Tim
Walls record, it is phenomenal. He's been one of the most
successful governors, Democratic or Republican. You know, I mean,
he's cut taxes in all of his budgets. I think seniors get a
$1,300 tax break. All of it. He did raise taxes on the
wealthiest people because people like Donald Trump, because those
are the people that should be paying into the shared services
in which we all pay to support the things that make them able
to do the business that they do. >> Scott, and I agree, is on the
service. I give him full credit for serving 24 years. Anyone who
serves in the military deserves our gratitude. No question. Full
stop where he struggles and where we're going to have an
opportunity is on the issue of trust. He calls himself, and he
allowed himself to be called a command sergeant major for 15
years. He did not earn that title. He did not complete the
coursework. He retired as a major sergeant. There's a big
difference between those two things. I don't think you can
call yourself something you did not earn and let that stand for
15 years. Now. Yesterday, the thing about his wife and IVF
again, it gets to trust and credibility. His record in
Minnesota, I think, is ripe for the picking. But his own
credibility on things he has said himself even on this
campaign, it's what's going to bite him.
Their daughter's name is Hope because she was conceived
through IVF because they wasn't IVF.
it was absolutely what it was. >> This is just a place where we
are just literally going to disagree on what the terms of
>> So when it comes to those kind of issues, what is bigger
red meat for Republicans? The actual policies that he has
supported and put his signature on versus semantic arguments
voters really don't want to dig down into.
to the big subject here. This whole convention is about Donald
Trump, and that's what Democrats want the election to be. And if
it is, they've got a chance of winning. Donald Trump and JD
Vance and the Republicans need things voters care about
inflation, gas prices, mortgage, rent, electricity bills. Those
are the things that voters care about. Immigration open borders,
a world on fire. Those are the things that Republicans are
going to win on. And by Friday, if we're back on those issues, I
like our chances. >> All the things that Bill just
mentioned are things that the Democrats with Kamala Harris and
Joe Biden pushed forward to do things about the investment
Recovery Act, the Inflation Act. They had a border deal that
Donald Trump was able to throttle. You know, they didn't
have. And then the and the last part. Yeah, absolutely. Did
James Lankford, one of the most conservative members, have 60
votes in the Senate. >> And it didn't pass the House.
>> Republicans went on Fox. They were the ones who killed the
bill. That could have Republicans may have talked to
some, no question about it, but they didn't have 60 votes to
pass in the Senate. >> And it was never going to
pass the House. So the notion that this somehow was going to
pass is false. Republicans who killed this
thing. And let's go back to the to the big issue abortion. Tim
Walz signed into law the first reaction, most extreme abortion
law in the country. >> The first reaction to the
Dobbs decision that made women second class citizens.
>> He signed the bill that protected abortion rights and
will protect them forever. In in the state of Minnesota birth?
Absolutely not. That is absolutely even after Burch. And
the people who have to have the people who are forced to have
abortions late are not doing it by choice. They are doing it
because there is a safety of the mother, the child has perished.
I mean, I, I watched with near tears in my eyes, the, you know,
the women talking on the first night about their experiences
with it. And we should respect that and be true about the facts
on this. Women do not try and have abortions that late. It is
medically because they need to Walls is going to be a net
negative. says he's happy to be called a
big government liberal is going to struggle on a November
ballot. for another second, because
Hadley Duvall from the state of Kentucky was on the stage and
she had a quote that said, what is beautiful about a child
having to carry her parents child? She said she was raped by
her stepfather at 12 and had to have an abortion. Do stories
like that? I mean, how worried are you about stories like that
penetrating and becoming the conversation around abortion
when there are a lot of Republican states, Donald Trump,
that are outlawing abortion is different than the traditional,
but his position is not consistent at all. And he still
takes credit for overturning Roe v Wade and supports all the
complete total abortion bans around the country, turned it
back to the states. >> It allowed every state to
determine their own destiny as it relates to the abortion
issue. Republicans to try and win on?
Either some of these near-total the bill that some of these near
abortion bans, like in Florida, it's on the ballot in November.
>> We'll see how that turns out in red states like Kansas,
voters rejected the almost complete restriction on abortio.
So you know, what you're seeing in Wisconsin, what Trump has
said is he supports, exceptions for rape, incest, life of the
mother. He also supports some, you know, 12 weeks or some
level, like that, but he doesn't support a national abortion ban.
And, and I think that's what Democrats are going to try and
convince voters that if he gets elected, he's going to pass some
national abortion ban. Again, you need 60 votes to get through
the Senate. This Senate, under any electoral scenario, is not
going to get to 60. No chance. And then you've got the House to
when if the Senate is in Republican hands after this
election and Donald Trump is the president and the House, you
know, is Republican, there will be a nationwide abortion ban
passed because the filibuster will be gone and it will pass
with the 50 votes or 51 votes or 50 whatever Republicans have.
>> Let's be let's be honest about that. The second thing is,
you know, again, going back to Vice President JD Vance, you
know, has called exceptions for rape and incest inconveniences.
You know, he is the most extreme, the most extreme member
of the US Senate when it comes to the issue of denying women
their right to reproductive freedom, which is also economic
freedom. And the last thing I would say is this talking point
about, like, we send it back to the States, what if suddenly the
Supreme Court said, okay, businesses don't have First
Amendment rights nationally now it just goes back to the states.
So depending on where you're at, you know, Citizens United would
be here. Citizens United would not be here. The Republicans
would scream bloody murder. And that's just like corporations
spending money. Rights are fundamental. Women have the
right to be first class citizens along with men. And just because
they can make babies doesn't mean they should be second class
citizens. And voters are going to reject Donald Trump and
Republicans up and down the ticket because of this. Abortion
is on the ballot and they are on the wrong side. Couple of
things. position. That's on the position
description. If you sign up to be the vice president, you
accept the positions of the presidential candidate. That's
>> Yeah, that's how hang Mike pence happened. Right? So I
would say Democrats need abortion to be a bigger issue
than it is. >> It's currently number three
on all national polls. It's a little bit higher for Democrats,
but not for independents or Republicans.
>> It absolutely is at the tops for independent women.
Absolutely. And again, they those women in swing states like
in Wisconsin are going to decide this election. And they've shown
that they've been rejecting this. I mean, you know, post
Dobbs women keep winning or Democrats keep winning statewide
elections. And, you know, even, you know, a couple of weeks ago
when we had the when we had the constitutional amendments, you
amendments, you know, 12 or 13 of them have have passed over
the last like decade. >> So let's go back to one of
the other big issues you're talking about, which is the
economy. Yep Yesterday you previewed that there would be a
readjustment in the numbers once you break the news to our
audience. Labor came out with revised
numbers that show 818,000 fewer jobs were created in the last 12
months, including 115,000 fewer manufacturing jobs. This is this
is scandalous, in my opinion, that the Department of Labor
could get out, get away with putting out statistics that are
so flawed. They have to revise by that big of a number. This is
the biggest. No, this is the biggest revision in 15 years.
>> There are constantly they're constantly revised for
seasonally adjusted and such. I mean, we used to track them
when, when, you know, during the George W Bush years is how they,
you know, and during Scott Walker's years because he
promised we were going at 250,000 jobs and he came
woefully short. And we always had to make sure that, okay, it
was a seasonally adjusted. But listen, the fact is we lost 3
million jobs under Trump. We gained 15, 15.2 million. Okay,
I'll I'll take your talking point 15 to the fact 15.2
million under Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. I think that's a net
12.2 million. I think Democrats win on that, win on that.
>> But what does that look like in terms of trend versus image?
When we're talking about the optics of right before an
election, which is the markets, it's not a good trend for
Democrats. will be the number one issue for
voters, 75 days from now. There's no question about that.
But that's also personal economy to its pocketbook versus abroad.
>> If I didn't lose my job, do I worry as much about fewer net
jobs being created? If I were Donald Trump and JD
Vance saying, are you better off today than you were four years
ago, I'd still the old Ronald Reagan line, because I think
what? No, I'm not. >> You should switch to five
years ago because then we get before the Covid argument, you
know, I was going to say, for wisconsins sake, you know, I saw
the Department of Labor or I'm sorry, Department of Workforce
Development released today. >> You know, nine of 12 of the
major metropolitan areas in the state of Wisconsin, the
unemployment rate went down or stayed the same. That's a pretty
good that's pretty good for a swing state like Wisconsin. 23
of the 34, you know, biggest cities. You know that's a good
thing for Wisconsin. And that's a good thing for Kamala Harris.
I think we're in a unique scenario here where the governor
I work for, Tommy Thompson, we always bragged about these
economic numbers. >> Two. But voters felt it
right. The difference is, or the disconnect is voters don't feel
if there are good numbers out there on the economy, voters
aren't feeling it. And that's going to be reflected at the
ballot box. I think they felt know, they were having support
with their child care, with internet broadband, you know, I
think that they felt that. >> And now they're feeling that
it's gone because Republicans have stood in the way of helping
people because they want to have had the white House for 12 of
the last 16 years. It does not matter.
>> They want to be the change. >> There is an intractable
Republican majority that started when Barack Obama took the oath
on January 20th, 2009, that Republicans were going to say no
to everything in the midst of whatever crises there were. We
were in the midst of a near second Great Depression and
Republicans said, absolutely not. We're not going to work
with you because Mitch McConnell said, our our idea is we want to
make sure that Barack Obama doesn't have a second term.
Well, he had a second term. And you would argue he had a third
term with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. Yeah.
>> I did notice when you talked about the economic development.
You put Kamala Harris above Joe Biden at the top of the ticket.
>> Is I just, you know, somebody who's now on he's gone.
>> He's on the beach in California towards the end of
the alphabet. order of things. Once in a
while. So Harris is before Biden. Biden always gets to be
at the top alphabetically. >> We'll see how much she
mentions him tomorrow night. She's trying to erase him from
this campaign. >> You don't think there'll be a
thank you, Joe, at the beginning? She has to be.
>> She has to be the right thing to do through all the storm has
been the most loyal soldier that you possibly could be. Which is
why he came out when people were saying, okay, is this going to
be an open deal? He's like, nope, this is my vice president.
This should be the next. And that ended it. Democrat. Yeah.
And Democrats, the unity for Democrats is at an all time
high. national picture because the
center for politics put out their most recent crystal ball.
They moved the state of North Carolina to toss up. That makes
seven toss up states, including three in the Midwest. The big
the blue wall with Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania. There
are no lean states across the country. In their eyes, it's
either you are solid red or solid blue, or you are a toss
up. What does that tell us about where this country is in this
election? person once said, you know,
governance is about or campaigns are about dividing people break
off 50% plus one. Governance is about to be is supposed to be
about bringing people together. And when we have a new president
in Kamala Harris, a new vice president, Tim Walz, they will
make that effort. That will happen. It will be up. You know,
maybe the chastising that America is going to give the
Republicans in this election will wake them up a little bit
to it. I don't know that the media ecosystem on the right is
going to allow it to happen. But you know what? Stranger things
have happened, and I want to always again, this is a campaign
about joy and hope. I'm going to hope for the best.
>> The one thing that will bring all seven of those states in the
Trump column is a great economic message. I think we've seen
since Kamala Harris started to roll out her economic plan last
Friday. Her numbers have gone down, both on polling across the
nation and on the betting markets. I think people are
saying, boy, that's a lot more liberal than I thought she was.
And I think the more they get to know her and what her economic
plan is, that's Donald Trump and J.D. Vance, Pfaff to get those
seven states in the win column. >> But at the same time span,
there have been more of these states moving to toss up and,
and I'm okay with that. >> I think it forces us to, to
work harder in those states. I don't want to take anything for
granted. I want to earn the white House. I think that's the
best way to ensure that you can actually get things done and
govern once you're there. So I don't have any problem with
seven states being in in play right now, including Wisconsin.
I think we're going to see Donald Trump at least four times
in the next 75 days. I think we're going to see JD Vance once
a week until this is over. >> He already said he lives
here. reason that seven states are
there is because Kamala Harris has enjoyed a 14 point bump with
Latino voters. You know, again, the great Democratic coalition
that helps Democrats win in national elections. You know,
black women are beyond, you know, beyond joy that finally,
someone like them is going to be reflected in the presidency. And
that's why there's so much enthusiasm. And you heard it.
You know, you hear it when that's referenced during the
conventions last night. It is why Michelle Obama received such
night. And again, that's the coalition that helps put
Democrats over the over the top. And I you know, again, I think
it's a successful I think it's going to be a successful project
all right. >> I want to switch to Wisconsin
and congressional districts. We It was a little messy as that
race appears to be. But there's two more that are at least worth
mentioning right. We could start on the first, where Bryan Steil
is an incumbent. It's a solid red district, or it has been.
But with the changes that are going on in the suburbs,
Democrats are looking at it. Peter Barca is a former dem
member of Congress. He's been longstanding politician. Is he
doing the work because we haven't seen him down here.
We're not that far away. Is he right now?
Parker's work is any, is reflected in by his email
communications, the guy's because I get emails from him
every single day. He's obviously, you know, he. You
know, he was the fundraiser for the Assembly Democrats who did
very well in fundraising while even being in the minority under
Scott Walker and Robin Vos. So he's definitely doing the work.
People know him there. He's a good, solid guy. You know, I do
think that, you know, for many, many years, the first
Congressional District has been kind of a shame for Democrats
because there hasn't been the going after, you know, Paul Ryan
had a free ride basically for 20 years. Brian Stiles had a free
ride for most of his most of his short, undistinguished career.
And so, yeah, so I think I think Peter's going to do very, very
well on Election Day. And that is a much more Democratic seat
than some of the others. >> It's a plus four Republican
seat. Steil has won handily in each of his reelections. He has
more than $4 million in the bank. He's got speaker Mike
Johnson coming to Lake Geneva for an event for him on Monday
night. I think. Bryan, I don't believe that seat is going to be
competitive. And I think Bryan Steil will handily win
reelection even today. >> Speaking to the Wisconsin
delegation, Congressman Mark Pocan, a pretty, very liberal
Democrat, said Bryan Steil is a good guy. He said he's like
jello in that he doesn't have much of a flavor by himself,
which is, I guess, better than his description of Van Orden.
But it does says something about how that the staying power you
talked about Paul Ryan and talk about Brian Steil. It's like
they are solid, middle of the road hard.
district. He's he shows up, he flips pancakes. He, you know,
pours beers or whatever it takes. And people give him
credit from that. From Kenosha to Janesville, Bryan Steil was,
you know, Paul Ryan's chauffeur, and he's an errand boy for the
extreme right wing and the corruption that's in the house
Republicans. >> I mean, this is a guy who is
in charge and could release the video of fellow Republican
Derrick Van Orton attacking teenage pages in the Capitol. He
has refused to release the video of that. When it happened to a
Democrat, when a Democrat pulled a fire alarm that released that
video was out in two weeks. >> All right, let's move to the
eighth. An open seat, which is probably the only reason we're
talking about it. And it's got a Trump appointed Tony Wied that
really no one knows endorsed Trump. Yeah, sorry. Trump
endorsed, which kind of gave him the appointment and winning that
primary. But what do you think of Kristin Lyerly? What do you
think of her chances of making this a real race?
>> It is a real race because of Kristin Lyerly. This is a woman
who travels, travels to Minnesota because of the
abortion ban in Wisconsin to assist women in accessing their
reproductive freedoms. She also does it in Arizona as well on
native, on Native American, land. This is a woman who is a
doctor who cares about the district, and she outraised all
three of the Republicans who were running in the race. You
put abortion on the ballot. She is somebody who can win. The
other thing is, who came out. You know, who came out of the
primary, the eighth Congressional District. For all
the criticisms I've made of Reed Ribble and Mike Gallagher, you
know, and even, you know, going back before that, there's one
thing that's tied all the members of Congress from green
Bay, and it's flipped back and forth. It's the flip iest.
They've all been moderates. Every single one of them.
>> Is Tony Wied going to be able to run on that, or is he just
the Trump brand? >> Well, let's start with the
numbers and the seat. And I'll remind your viewers from
the same as they were. This is a plus ten GOP seat Tony Wied is
the heavy favorite in this seat. For this reason. Yeah, he got
Trump's endorsement and he ended up distinguishing or
extinguishing two pretty André state Senator André Jacque
and former Senate President Roger Roth, who also was the
nominee for Lieutenant governor just two years ago. So beating
those two guys was no small feat. It took more than the
Trump endorsement. I think the appeal to him is he's he's
literally an outsider. And I think there's a lot of voters
who have said, enough with politics, let's bring in some
fresh blood. And I think Tony Wied fits that bill.
>> All right. We have a few seconds left. How much does
Harris need to win the state by in order to pull Kristin Lyerly
across in the eighth point and a half? That small? Yep.
>> What do you think she'd need to win it by four. And that that
won't happen. tomorrow. We have more to talk
about. Thank you both for being here. Appreciate it.
>> Great to be here. >> All right. We'll leave it
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