% >> WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME,
% JENNIE.%GOOD LUCK.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> SCHOOL IS OUT FOR SUMMER AND
% NOW SUMMER SCHOOL BEGINS, BUT
% WHO IS GOING AND HOW MIGHT EXTRA
% CLASS TIME HELP MAKE UP FOR
% LEARNING LOSS SUFFERED DURING
% THE PANDEMIC?
% SARA SHAW SPECIALIZES IN
% EDUCATION AS SENIOR RESEARCHER
% FOR THE WISCONSIN POLICY FORUM.
% SARA, THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH
% US.%>> MY PLEASURE.
% >> SO WE KNOW ACCORDING TO THE
% DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION
% THAT THE ACTUAL ENROLLMENT
% NUMBERS FOR SUMMER SCHOOL THIS
% SUMMER DON'T COME OUT UNTIL
% OCTOBER.
% BUT WHAT DO TRENDS FROM RECENT
% PRIOR YEARS OF SUMMER SCHOOL
% ATTENDANCE ACROSS THE STATE TELL
% US?%>> SO PRIOR TO THE PANDE
MIC,
% SUMMER SCHOOL ENROLLMENT HAD
% GENERALLY BEEN INCREASING.
% THEN THE PANDEMIC HIT AND SUMMER
% 2020, IT SAW A 57% DECREASE.
% THE QUESTION WAS WHAT WAS GOING
% TO HAPPEN STARTING IN SUMMER
% 2021 AND WHAT WE SAW IN THAT
% YEAR WAS THAT ENROLLMENT WAS
% BACK UP TO 88.3% OF 2019
% ENROLLMENT, SO WHAT WE SCRIBAL
% AS A PARTIAL RECOVERY.
% A LOT OF THE DISTRICTS FULLY
% RECOVERED AND MANY DID NOT.
% THEN WE LOOKED RECENTLY TO SEE
% WHAT HAPPENED FOR SUMMER 2020.
% SO LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME.
% AND THE NUMBERS BARELY BUDGED,
% SO IT'S ONLY UP BY HALF A
% PERCENTAGE POINT.
% WE'RE AT 88.8% OF WHAT THE
% NUMBERS WERE IN 2019.
% AND THESE NUMBERS ARE RELEVANT
% BECAUSE WHILE SUMMER SCHOOL
% ISN'T EVERYTHING TO EVERYONE, IT
% WAS SERVING A PURPOSE PRIOR TO
% THE PANDEMIC AND THE QUESTION
% IS, HAS IT BEEN ABLE TO REGAIN
% THAT ORIGINAL PURPOSE, MUCH LESS
% BE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL
% SUPPORT TO HELP LEARNING
% RECOVERY.
% >> SO WHY WOULDN'T ENROLLMENT
% MOSTLY HAVE REBOUNDED AFTER THE
% WORST OF COVID?
% >> THERE ARE A LOT OF
% HYPOTHETICALS.%I THINK IN THA
T 2021, THAT FIRST
% YEAR BACK, THERE WERE CONCERNS
% OF STAFF BURN-OUT, OF CONTINUED
% COVID HESITANCY, EVEN WITH THE
% VACCINES, DISTRICTS GETTING
% THEMSELVES GOING AGAIN.
% AS WE GET FURTHER OUT, I THINK
% THE EXPLANATIONS BECOME TRICKIER
% TO PIN DOWN, AND IT IS A TIGHT
% LABOR MARKED, SO TEACHERS HAVE A
% LOT OF OPTIONS OR HAD A LOT OF
% OPTIONS, AT LEAST, OF WHAT THEY
% COULD BE DOING OVER THE SUMMER
% AND BUDGETS AT THE STATE AND
% LOCAL LEVEL WERE FAIRLY
% CONSTRAINED.%BUT AT THE SAME
TIME, MANY
% DISTRICTS HAD ACCESS TO FEDERAL
% RELIEF FUNDS THAT COULD HAVE
% HELPED FUND THAT SUMMER SCHOOL.
% SO PROBABLY MOST RELATED TO
% STAFFING, BUT ALSO QUESTIONS
% ABOUT SCHOOL BUDGETS AND
% PARENTAL INTEREST, OR PARENTS
% AND GUARDIANS THINKING ABOUT HOW
% DID THEY WANT THEIR KIDS
% EXPECTED THE SUMMER.
% >> YOU WROTE A TALE OF TWO
% DISTRICTS, ONE BEING MILWAUKEE,
% WHICH DID NOT REBOUND
% SIGNIFICANTLY AT ALL, AND ONE
% BEING GREEN BAY, WHICH DID AND
% REALLY LEANED INTO THIS KIND OF
% SUMMER SCHOOL ENGAGEMENT.
% WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
% THESE TWO DISTRICTS?
% >> WELL, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT
% TO JUST LOOK AT SUMMER SCHOOL
% BECAUSE EACH OF THESE DISTRICTS
% ARE TAKING ON SO MANY DIFFERENT
% EFFORTS OF WHICH SUMMER SCHOOL
% IS A PIECE, BUT GREEN BAY REALLY
% MADE THE STRATEGIC INVESTMENT TO
% SAY SUMMER SCHOOL IS THE LEVER
% WE ARE GOING TO PULL, OR ONE OF
% THE MAJOR LEVERS WE ARE GOING TO
% PULL TO GET OUR TEACHERS BACK IN
% PERSON, GETTING OUR STUDENTS
% USED TO BEING BACK IN PERSON.
% THEY SWITCHED FROM A PART-DAY
% PROGRAM TOE A FULL-DAY PROGRAM
% BECAUSE IT GAVE THAT EXTRA TIME
% WITH KIDS TO NOT ONLY HELP THEM
% CATCH UP ACADEMICALLY AND
% ACCELERATE THEIR LEARNING, AND
% ALSO REESTABLISH SOME OF THOSE
% SOCIAL TIES THAT REALLY WERE
% FRAYED OR EVEN BROKEN FROM THE
% PANDEMIC AND IT WAS A RESPONSE
% TO PARENTS WHO WERE ASKING FOR
% FULL-DAY CHILDCARE, SUMMER
% SCHOOL FOR ALL OF ITS BENEFITS
% FOR STUDENTS IS ALSO CHILDCARE
% FOR PARENTS AND GUARDIANS, SO
% THAT WAS A BIG INVESTMENT, THAT
% IN MANY RESPECTS FROM ENROLLMENT
% SEEMS LIKE IT WAS VERY
% SUCCESSFUL, BUT ALSO BROUGHT
% BUDGETARY CHALLENGES FOR THE
% DISTRICT.
% NPS HAS BEEN PUTTING ITS
% INVESTMENTS ELSEWHERE, SO SUMMER
% SCHOOL AS PART OF THEIR RECOVERY
% EFFORTS.
% >> JUST SUPER QUICKLY, WE KNOW
% THAT THE COVID RELIEF FUNDS
% EXPIRE IN 2024, FUNDS THAT HAD
% HELPED DISTRICTS KIND OF DO
% THESE SUMMER SCHOOL PROGRAMS.
% WHAT'S ON THE HORIZON AFTER
% THAT?
% >> AFTER THAT, DEPENDS A LOT ON
% WHAT HAPPENS AT THE STATE
% LEGISLATURE.% THE QUESTION I
S TO WHAT EXTENT
% COULD DISTRICTS PULL ON STATE
% AND LOCAL DOLLARS TO HELP SMOOTH
% THAT TRANSITION AWAY FROM THE
% FEDERAL FUNDS.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% SARA SHAW, THANKS FOR YOUR
% EXPERTISE.
% >> MY PLEASURE.
% THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.%>> F
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