% MAJORITY ON THE WISCONSIN
% SUPREME COURT.
% >> THE RESULTS OF THIS ELECTION
% UPSET THE 15-YEAR CONSERVATIVE
% BALANCE OF POWER ON THE COURT.
% ZAC SCHULTZ JOINS US FROM
% OUTSIDE THE SUPREME COURT
% CHAMBERS NOW AT THE STATE
% CAPITOL.
% HI, ZAC.
% >> HELLO, FRED.
% >> SO THIS RACE SET A LOT OF
% RECORDS.
% WHAT EXPLAINS THE HUGE WIN FOR
% PROTASIEWICZ?%>> WELL, I THI
NK YOU HAVE TO
% LOOK AT A NUMBER OF ISSUES, BUT
% CAMPAIGNS COME DOWN TO THE
% QUALITY OF THE CAMPAIGN.
% PROTASIEWICZ GOT OUT EARLY,
% RAISED A TO HAVE BEEN MONEY AND
% SPENT A LOT OF MONEY AND YOU
% HAVE TO LOOK AT THE QUALITY OF
% THE CANDIDATES.
% DAN KELLY HAS RUN AND LOST
% BEFORE.%THERE WERE A LOT OF
NEGATIVES
% ASSOCIATED WITH HIM AND THEN YOU
% HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SALIENT
% ISSUES, AND CLEARLY ABORTION WAS
% ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUES
% THAT PEOPLE WERE CONNECTING TO
% THIS CAMPAIGN AND PROTASIEWICZ
% RAN ON THAT ISSUE.
% AND I THINK ALL THREE OF THOSE
% MERGED TOGETHER FOR THE MARGIN
% OF VICTORY THAT WE SAW ON
% TUESDAY.%>> WHERE DID SHE MAK
E GAINS AND
% KELLY TAKE LOSSES THAT WERE
% DIFFERENT FROM OTHER ELECTIONS?
% >> WELL, CERTAINLY YOU FIRST
% HAVE TO LOOK TO THE WOW
% COUNTIES, THE WAUKESHA AND OTHER
% COUNTIES, THOSE SUBURBAN
% COUNTIES OUTSIDE OF MILWAUKEE.
% FOR DECADES, THOSE HAVE BEEN
% REPUBLICAN STRONGHOLDS, WHERE
% GIVING SCOTT WALKER OVERWHELMING
% MAJORITIES KIND OF COUNTERING
% OUT THE LIBERAL STRONGHOLDS AND
% KIND OF LEAVING MOST ELECTIONS
% UP TO THE REST OF THE STATE.
% WE'VE SEEN THE EROSION AT THE
% REPUBLICAN PARTY SINCE THE TOP
% OF THE BALLOT SINCE DONALD TRUMP
% CAME INTO OFFICE, SINCE THOSE
% ARE PACKED WITH EDUCATED WOMEN
% AND ISSUES LIKE ABORTION HAVE
% BECOME MORE AND MORE IMPORTANT,
% ESPECIALLY WITH THE DOBBS RULING
% OVERTURNING ROE VERSUS WADE,
% DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CAMPAIGNING
% ON THAT AND WE'RE SEEING
% CONTINUALLY SLIPPAGE OF WHAT
% WERE ONCE VERY STRONG REPUBLICAN
% STRONGHOLDS NOW BECOMING UP FOR
% GRABS OR AT LEAST NOT SO MUCH OF
% A BLOW-OUT FOR REPUBLICANS.
% BUT IF YOU LOOK PAST THAT AND
% YOU GET OUTSIDE OF THE SOUTHEAST
% WISCONSIN, YOU CAN LOOK TO THE
% FOX VALLEY.
% PROTASIEWICZ DID REALLY WELL IN
% BROWN AND ALLEGHENY, THE BOW
% COUNTIES THAT ARE IN THAT NEXT
% CLASS OF COUNTIES, AND THEN SHE
% EVEN DID WELL IN SOUTHWESTERN
% WISCONSIN.%WHEN DEMOCRATS DO
WELL THERE,
% THEY WIN STATEWIDE.
% THAT'S WHAT YOU'VE SEEN WITH
% PRIOR LIBERAL WINS FOR THE
% SUPREME COURT AND WITH TAMMY
% BALDWIN HAS HAD BIG VICTORIES IN
% HER SENATE RACES.
% SHE'S DONE WELL IN THOSE PARTS
% OF THE STATE AS WELL.
% >> WITH THE BIG ISSUES, AS YOU
% SAID, ABORTION AND
% REDISTRICTING, HOW SOON ARE SUCH
% CASES EXPECT TO FIND THEIR WAY
% TO THE SUPREME COURT?
% >> WOH WELL, FOR ABORTION, THAT
% ISSUE IS AT A LOWER COURT
% ALREADY.%WE'VE SEEN THE EVERS
% ADMINISTRATION AND OTHER
% LAWSUITS AND THEY'VE BEEN SLOW
% PLAYING THAT.
% THEY DIDN'T WANT THAT ISSUE TO
% GET UP TO THE COURT TOO FAST
% BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T RULE IN
% THE WAY THEY HOPED THEY WOULD,
% AND SO NOW MAYBE THAT LAWSUIT
% PICKS UP STEAM, PERHAPS EVEN GET
% REACHED DOWN AND PICKED RIGHT UP
% TO THE SUPREME COURT ONCE THE
% NEW MAJORITY IS IN THERE IN
% AUGUST.
% PROTASIEWICZ DOESN'T TAKE THE
% SEAT ON THE BENCH BEHIND ME
% UNTIL THEN, SO YOU'LL SEE THOSE
% START TO PERCOLATE THROUGHOUT
% THE SUMMER AND DEFINITELY INTO
% THE FALL.
% AS FOR REDISTRICTING, WE'VE
% ALREADY HEARD REPORTS OF SOME OF
% THE LIBERAL LAW FIRMS STARTING
% TO PUT THEIR CASE TOGETHER FOR
% THEIR REASONS WHY THEY BELIEVE
% THAT IT'S AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL
% GERRYMANDER.%WE SAW THE BLUEP
RINT FOR ONE
% POSSIBLE OVERTURNING
% REDISTRICTING IN THE LIBERAL
% DESCENT TO THE REDISTRICTING
% CASE LAST YEAR IN WHICH THE TIME
% THREE LIBERALS ON THE COURT SAID
% THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THERE
% COULD BE A TRIAL HELD AND THE
% RESPONSE TO THE U.S. SUPREME
% COURT'S RULING ON WISCONSIN'S
% MATH.
% SO EXPECT THOSE TO BE HAPPENING
% GOING FORWARD.
% DEFINITELY THROUGH THIS FALL
% INTO THE WINTER.
% FOR REDISTRICTING, THERE'S AN
% ELECTION IN 2024.
% THOSE MAPS NEED TO BE IN PLACE
% BY THE SPRING SO THERE'S NOT A
% TON OF TIME FOR THESE BIG ISSUES
% TO COME BEFORE THE COURT AND
% THEN GET SETTLED.
% >> THERE ARE OTHER SUPREME COURT
% ELECTIONS IN THE OFFING, NAMELY
% IN 2025, WHEN THE TERM OF
% LIBERAL JUSTICE ANN WALSH BRADLY
% IS UP.
% >> ABSOLUTELY GOING TO RUN
% AGAIN.%I DO HAVE, BY THE WAY,
I DO HAVE
% AN IDEA, AND IT IS, YES, AFTER
% TONIGHT'S PERFORMANCE AND SEEING
% THE ENERGY IN THIS ROOM, I'M NOT
% ONLY GOING TO RUN, I'M GOING TO
% WIN.
% >> SO LIBERALS FEEL LIKE THEY
% ARE ON A NEW ROLL NOW.
% IS THAT FAIR?
% >> OH, ABSOLUTELY.
% YOU LOOK AT THE PAST FEW
% ELECTIONS FOR THE SUPREME COURT,
% ASIDE FROM 2019, WHERE THAT WAS
% EXPECTED TO BE A LIBERAL WIN AND
% JUSTICE HAGEDORN WON BY JUST A
% FEW THOUSAND VOTES, LIBERALS
% HAVE BEEN WINNING BY LARGE
% MARGINS, 10-POINT MARGINS FOR
% THE LAST FEW RACES OUTSIDE OF
% THAT PARTICULAR ONE AND WE HAVE
% TO POINT OUT THAT NO PERSON EVER
% ELECTED TO THE SUPREME COURT HAS
% GONE AND LOST A RE-ELECTION.
% THE ONLY TIME THAT A SITTING
% MEMBER HAS BEEN DEFEATED IN A
% RE-ELECTION IS WHEN THEY WERE
% APPOINTED.% THAT HAPPENED TO
JUSTICE KELLY
% AND THAT HAPPENED TO LEWIS
% BUTLER BACK IN 2009, SO THE
% HISTORY OF ELECTED OFFICIALS IS
% QUITE STRONG WHEN IT COMES TO
% LOOKING FORWARD TO 2025, WHICH
% IS WHEN ANN WALSH BRADLY WOULD
% BE ON THE BALLOT AGAIN.
% >> A PROCESS QUESTION.
% AT THIS POINT, DOES ANN WALSH
% BRADLY DEFACTO BECOME CHIEF
% JUSTICE?
% >> NO, SHE DOES NOT.
% ACCORDING TO THE CONSTITUTIONAL
% AMENDMENT THAT WAS PASSED BY
% REPUBLICANS AND APPROVED BY
% VOTERS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO,
% THE SUPREME COURT GETS TO ELECT
% THEIR OWN CHIEF JUSTICE.
% RIGHT NOW THAT IS CONSERVATIVE
% ANNETTE ZIEGLER AND SHE WAS JUST
% RE-ELECTED RECENTLY.
% HOW MUCH, THE SUPREME COURT GETS
% TO MAKE THEIR OWN RULES SO WHEN
% JANET PROTASIEWICZ BECOMES
% JUSTICE PROTASIEWICZ THIS
% SUMMER, THEY WILL HAVE A
% MAJORITY AND THEY COULD DECIDE
% THEY WANT TO TAKE A VOTE ON WHO
% THE CHIEF JUSTICE IS AT THAT
% TIME AND YOU WOULD EXPECT IF
% THAT HAPPENS, THAT IT WOULD BE
% ANN WALSH BRADLY WHO WOULD
% BECOME THE CHIEF AND THAT WILL
% BE UP TO THE COURT AT THAT TIME,
% IS THEY GET TO SET THEIR OWN
% RULES AND QUITE HONESTLY,
% THERE'S NO ONE ELSE TO APPEAL
% TO.%THEY ARE THE SUPREME COU
RT.
% >> INDEED.
% SO HAVING REPORTED ON THIS AS
% WELL, ZAC, YOU KNOW THAT ANOTHER
% BIG ELECTION TUESDAY WAS FOR THE
% STATE SENATE EIGHTH DISTRICT
% WITH A ON THE LINE N. A CLOSE
% RACE, DAN KOANDLE STOPPED JODI
% HAY BISHOP SINYKIN.
% NOW, THE SUPERMAJORITY ALLOWS
% THE SENATE TO IMPEACH PUBLIC
% OFFICIALS.
% DAN KNODLE SPOKE TO THAT
% OPPORTUNITY.
% >> I REALLY COULD INVOLVE ANY
% OFFICIAL, PARTICULARLY ELECTED
% OFFICIALS, OUR GOVERNMENT
% OFFICIALS AS WELL, SO I WOULD
% THINK IT'S -- I VIEW IT
% INITIALLY AS ALL ENCOMPASSING.
% >> SO DAN KNODLE SEEMS ALL IN ON
% IMPEACHING PEOPLE, BUT HOW
% SERIOUS IS THE REPUBLICAN
% MAJORITY ABOUT THOSE NEW POWERS?
% >> WELL, THEY HAVE YET TO BE
% TESTED.% THIS HAS NOT BEEN
A REALITY IN
% THE MODERN ERA OF WISCONSIN
% POLITICS.%DAN KNODLE WAS CAM
PAIGNING AT
% THAT TIME.
% HE WANTED THAT ISSUE TO BE
% SALIENT FOR THE VOTERS IN HIS
% AREA IS WHY HE SHOULD BE
% ELECTED.%THE QUESTION IS WHET
HER THAT
% WOULD ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
% THAT IS A BIG PROCESS.
% IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO BE TAKEN
% LIGHTLY.
% EVEN THOUGH REPUBLICANS HAVE 22
% MEMBERS, THAT IS A HUGE MAJORITY
% AND NOT EVERY ONE OF THOSE
% MEMBERS SEEM TO BE ON BOARD AT
% THIS TIME.
% WE'VE HEARD FROM SENATE MAJORITY
% LEADER SAY IMPEACHING PEOPLE AND
% THE WHOLE PROCESS RIGHT NOW IS
% UNCERTAIN LEGALLY.
% SOME OF THOSE TERMS AREN'T
% DEFINED, WHICH WOULD SEEM TO BE
% LEANING BACK TO THE COURTS
% GETTING INVOLVED IF THEY WANTED
% TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR
% ANYBODY.
% >> SO IT COULD SPELL TROUBLE.
% THEY WENT AHEAD WITH THAT.
% ZAC SCHULTZ, THANKS VERY MUCH