% VERY MUCH.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> LAST AUGUST, REPUBLICAN
% ASSEMBLY SPEAKER FIRED MICHAEL
% GABLEMAN, A FORMER SUPREME COURT
% JUSTICE, FROM HIS JOB AS SPECIAL
% COUNSEL I INVESTIGATING OF THE
% 2020 ELECTION.
% HIS WORK HAS RISEN TO NEARLY
% $2.5 MILLION INCLUDING COURT
% COSTS ARISING FROM LAWSUITS OVER
% PUBLIC RECORDS FROM THE PROBE
% AND NOW ATTORNEYS AT LAW FORWARD
% HAVE FILED A 108-PAGE COMPLAINT
% WITH THE OFFICE OF LAWYER
% REGULATIONS SAYING GABLEMAN
% VIOLATED SUPREME COURT RULES OF
% PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT DURING HIS
% ELECTION INVESTIGATION.
% ATTORNEY JEFF MANDEL FILED THE
% COMPLAINT.%THANK YOU FOR BEIN
G WITH US.
% >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
% >> SO MICHAEL GABLEMAN WAS
% FIRED, AS WE JUST SAID, AND
% CALLED AN EMBARRASSMENT BY
% SPEAKER ROBIN VOS.
% ISN'T THAT ENOUGH?
% WHY FILE A COMPLAINT AGAINST HIM
% NOW?
% >> WELL, THE GOAL HERE IS NOT TO
% PILE ON.
% THE GOAL IS NOT TO EMBARRASS MR.
% BUT IF WE HAVE A RULE OF LAW, IF
% WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE EVERYONE
% PLAYS BY THE SAME RULES, THOSE
% RULES NEED TO BE ENFORCED.
% THE COMPLAINT IS AS LONG AS IT
% IS BECAUSE MR. GABLEMAN BROKE SO
% MANY RULES OF ETHICAL CONDUCT.
% IT WAS QUITE A TASK TO CATALOG
% THEM ALL.
% >> SO YOU -- YOUR COMPLAINT
% ALLEGES IN DETAIL HOW GABLEMAN
% VIOLATED PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT
% FOR AN ATTORNEY, STARTING WITH
% HIS COMPETENCY.
% HE'S CERTAINLY HELD HIGH OFFICE
% AS A FORMER JUSTICE AND D.A.
% WHY DO YOU SAY HE WAS
% INCOMPETENT HERE?
% >> WELL, FOR A COUPLE OF
% REASONS.
% FIRST, AN ATTORNEY CAN BE HIGHLY
% COMPETENT AT ONE THING AND NOT
% COMPETENT AT SOME OTHER AREA OF
% THE LAW, AND THE ETHICAL RULES
% REQUIRE ATTORNEYS TO BE MINDFUL
% AND SELF-CONSCIOUS OF THIS AND
% TO ACCEPT THOSE REPRESENTATIONS
% THAT THEY ARE PREPARED TO CARRY
% OUT.
% MR. GABLEMAN, AFTER ACCEPTING
% HIS CHARGE AS SPECIAL COUNSEL,
% PUBLICLY STATED THAT HE KNEW
% ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT ELECTION
% LAW.%SO THAT IN ITSELF IS SAY
% COMPETENCE ISSUE.
% NOW, AN ATTORNEY MAY TAKE ON
% SOMETHING WHERE THEY NEED TO
% LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
% WE'RE ALL CAPABLE OF LEARNING
% NEW THINGS, BUT MR. GABLEMAN
% THEN DID NOT UNDERTAKE THE KINDS
% OF STEPS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT
% TO LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
% YOU DON'T GET TO CHARGE THE
% TAXPAYERS OR THE STATE OR YOUR
% CLIENT FOR LEARNING THESE NEW
% THINGS AND YOU HAVE TO BE
% PREPARED TO DO IT.
% MR. GABLEMAN SPENT THE FIRST
% SEVERAL WEEKS OF HIS JOB TRYING
% TO LEARN THESE THINGS AT A
% PUBLIC COMPUTER TERMINAL, AT THE
% NEW BERLIN PUBLIC LIBRARY.
% EVEN AS HE TOLD THE PUBLIC THAT
% HIS INVESTIGATION WAS GOING TO
% BE HIGHLY SECURE AND SECRETIVE
% AND HE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT
% NO ONE KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING.
% HE WAS DOING THIS ALL AT A
% PUBLIC COMPUTER TERMINAL AND HE
% WAS NOT LEARNING ELECTION LAW IN
% THE WAY YOU WOULD EXPECT A
% DILIGENT ATTORNEY TO DO BUT
% INSTEAD WAS CONSULTING WITH
% CONSPIRACY THEORISTS AND FRINGE
% ACTORS TO BRING HIMSELF UP TO
% DATE ON THE LATEST CRAZY
% THEORIES.
% >> YOU ALSO SAY THAT HE CAUSED
% MALICIOUS INJURY TO THOSE LIKE
% THE MAYORS THAT HE SUBPOENAED AS
% PART OF HIS INVESTIGATION.
% HOW SO?
% >> WELL, HE ASKED A JUDGE IN
% WAUKESHA COUNTY TO THROW THE
% MAYORS OF GREEN BAY AND MADISON
% úIN JAIL AND HE DID SO ON
% ENTIRELY FALSE PRETENSES, THAT
% HE KNEW WERE FALSE, AND HE DID
% SO ALSO ASKING THE JUDGE TO DO
% IT WITHOUT EVEN HEARING FROM THE
% DEFENDANTS OR LETTING THOSE
% MAYORS KNOW THAT HE WAS TRYING
% TO DO IT.
% SO HE MISREPRESENTED THE FACTS
% IN THE LAW, TRIED TO HIDE WHAT
% HE WAS DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT
% THEY WOULDN'T GET THEIR DAY IN
% COURT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES.
% IT WAS ENTIRELY MALICIOUS, AND
% WHEN WE POINTED THOSE FAULTS
% OUT, AT NO POINT DID
% MR. GABLEMAN OR ANY OF THE
% ATTORNEYS WORKING WITH HIM
% ATTEMPT TO FIX THAT OR CORRECT
% THE RECORD.
% THEY WERE DELIBERATELY LYING
% ABOUT THESE PUBLIC OFFICIALS.
% >> HAVE ATTORNEYS INVOLVED IN
% TRYING TO UNDO THE RESULTS OF
% THE 2020 ELECTION FACED
% PROFESSIONAL MISCONDUCT
% DISCIPLINE IN THIS WAY?
% >> QUITE A FEW HAVE.
% MAYOR GIULIANI HAS BEEN
% SANCTIONED AND A LAWYER HERE IN
% WISCONSIN, ERIC CARDOLL, WHO WAS
% TIED INTO MR. GABLEMAN'S
% INVESTIGATION, THOUGH HE WAS NOT
% OFFICIALLY WORKING FOR THE
% STATE.
% MR. GABLEMAN WAS SHARING
% INFORMATION AND SHARING OFFICE
% SPACE WITH HIM IN WAYS THAT ARE
% THEMSELVES ETHICALLY
% PROBLEMATIC.
% HEBREHE HAS BEEN REFERRED IN
% WASHINGTON, D.C. BECAUSE A CASE
% HE FILED HAS BEEN SO BASELESS.
% >> WHY, IN YOUR MIND, IS IT
% IMPORTANT TO FILE THESE KINDS OF
% THINGS?%>> WELL, YOU KNOW, W
E HAVE
% COURTS AND WE USE OUR LAWS TO
% RESOLVE SERIOUS DISPUTES, AND
% THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING, BUT
% WHEN PEOPLE BREAK THE BASIC
% RULES AND THEY BRING CASES THAT
% ARE FRIVOLOUS AND THAT THEY KNOW
% ARE FRIVOLOUS WHEN THEY'RE
% SEEKING TO ADVANCE A PURELY
% POLITICAL AGENDA THAT HAS NO
% BASIS IN LAW, WE HAVE TO UPHOLD
% THE RULES AND MAKE SURE THAT
% THEY CAN'T DO IT.
% OTHERWISE, WE WILL DEVOLVE INTO
% CHAOS.
% >> WHAT OUTCOME WOULD YOU LIKE
% TO SEE FOR MICHAEL GABLEMAN
% HERE?
% >> I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
% OFFICE OF LAWYER REGULATION TAKE
% A REALLY CAREFUL AND THOROUGH
% LOOK AT THIS.
% IT IS REALLY NOT FOR US TO SAY
% WHAT THE ULTIMATE PUNISHMENT
% SHOULD BE.
% THAT'S FOR THE SUPREME COURT OF
% WISCONSIN TO DECIDE.
% THEY'RE THE ONES WHO PATROL THE
% BAR AT THE END OF THE DAY.
% THEY'RE THE COPS ON THE BEAT FOR
% THIS.% BUT MY HOPE IS THAT
THE OFFICE
% OF LAWYER REGULATION WILL
% THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATE THIS AND
% GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS AND
% TREAT MR. GABLEMAN THE SAME WAY
% THEY WOULD TREAT ANY OTHER
% LAWYER IN THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN.
% >> AND SO IT DOESN'T CONSTITUTE
% ANY KIND OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST
% GIVING THAT HE WAS A SUPREME
% COURT JUSTICE GIVEN IT IS AN ARM
% OF THE SUPREME COURT?
% >> REST OF THE SUPREME COURT DID
% DEAL WITH.
% IT'S COMPLICATED AND MAYBE
% UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT IT'S PART OF
% THEIR JOB.
% >> JEFFREY MANDEL, THANK YOU
% VERY MUCH.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> 9:00 GABLEMAN IS NOW SENIOR
% COUNSEL AT THE THOMAS MOORE
% SOCIETY, A CONSERVATIVE PUBLIC
% INTEREST LAW FIRM BASED IN
% CHICAGO.
% FOR MORE ON THIS AND OTHER
% ISSUES FACING WISCONSIN, VISIT