% >> AS YOU JUST HEARD, IF
% REPUBLICANS WIN A VETO-PROOF
% MAJORITY AND DEMOCRAT TONY
% EVERS WINS RE-ELECTION, HIS
% DAYS OF EASILY OVERTURNING
% BILLS WOULD BE OVER.
% BUT IF REPUBLICAN TIM MICHELS
% WINS THE ELECTION, WHAT BILLS
% THAT EVERS VETOED WOULD LIKELY%
BECOME LAW?
% TO LOOK AT THESE POSSIBLE
% ELECTION OUTCOMES, WE TURN TO
% SHAWN JOHNSON, CAPITOL BUREAU
% CHIEF FOR WISCONSIN PUBLIC
% RADIO.
% NICE TO SEE YOU.
% >> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
% >> OKAY, SO HOW DOES GOVERNOR%
TONY EVERS' VETO RECORD STACK%UP
IN HISTORY?
% IT TURNS OUT, OVER A TWO-YEAR
% SESSION.
% EVER SINCE WISCONSIN HAS BEEN
% A STATE.
% NO GOVERNOR HAS VETOED NOR
% BILLS THAN HE HAS.
% 126.
% THE NEXT CLOSEST IS 90s.
% EVERS HAS IT BY A MILE.
% IF YOU ARE THINKING THEY ARE
% NOT GETTING ALONG TOO WELL.
% YOU ARE FACTUALLY, OBJECTIVELY
% CORRECT.
% IN HIS 126 VETOES IN A SINGLE
% IT COVERED EVERYTHING FROM
% ELECTION LAW CHANGES, COVID
% BILLS, K-12 LAW CHANGES,
% LEGISLATION ON%GUNS, ABORTION
, AND CHILD% LABOR LAWS.
% WHICH STAND OUT HEADING INTO%
THE ELECTION?
% IF YOU ASK WHICH STANDS OUT IN
% TERMS OF THE CAMPAIGN WE ARE
% WATCHING RIGHT NOW.
% I WOULD SAY NOT VERY MANY OF
% THEM.
% REALLY.
% IT FEELS LIKE THE CANDIDATES
% ARE RUNNING ON THEMES THAT YOU
% SEE FROM REPUBLICANS AND
% DEMOCRATS EVERYWHERE.
% TIM MICHELS IS RUNNING AGAINST
% EVERS AS, TALKING ABOUT HIS
% PAROLE COMMISSION.
% EVERS IS TALKING ABOUT TIM
% MIKE ELLS ON ABORTION GOING
% BACK TO 2004.
% THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE TALKING
% ABOUT.%THEY WERE NOT REALLY T
ALKING
% ABOUT THESE VETOES.
% THAT SAID, THERE IS
% SIGNIFICANT STUFF IN THERE.
% THERE IS AROUND 20 BILTZ THAT
% REPUBLICANS PASSED RELATED TO
% ELECTION LAW CHANGES,
% INCLUDING THEN ON PRIVATE
% PLANTS TO HELP RUN ELECTIONS.
% THERE ARE SOME PRETTY
% SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO
% EDUCATION IN WISCONSIN.
% PROPOSED IN THESE BILLS.
% INCLUDING ONE THAT WOULD LIFT
% ALL CAPS ON THE PRIVATE SCHOOL
% VOUCHER PROGRAM, NO MORE
% ENROLLMENT CAPS OR LIMITS TO
% THE PROGRAM.
% THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE
% TO WISCONSIN LAW.
% SO THERE IS A LOT IN THERE IN
% ALL OF THESE BILLS.
% SOME OF IT IS GETTING TALKS
% ABOUT, JUST NOT AS MUCH AS THE
% LARGER THEMES.
% DO THESE BILLS THAT ARE VETOED
% REPRESENT A BLUEPRINT FOR
% REPUBLICANS?
% >> IN A WAY, I THINK THEY DO.
% WE MENTIONED IT'S REFERRED TO
% AS THE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL
% CHOICE PLAN.
% HISTORICALLY IN WISCONSIN, THE
% SCHOOL CHOICE LOBBY IS KIND OF
% MOVED INCREMENTALLY.
% RAISE THE INCOME LIMITATIONS
% FOR THE CHOICE PROGRAM A
% LITTLE BIT THIS SESSION.
% A LITTLE BIT THIS SESSION.
% EXPANDS IT TO RECEIVE, THEN
% STATE-WIDE.
% KIND OF STEP BY STEP.
% THIS IS LIKE EVERYTHING HERE.
% AND I THINK BYPASSING IT,
% GETTING THE LEGISLATURE ON
% RECORD TO SUPPORT THIS BILL,
% EVEN IF THEY KNEW THE GOVERNOR
% WAS GOING TO VETO IT.
% THEY MAY HAVE TIM MIKE ELLS
% TALKING ABOUT IT.
% EVERYBODY IS ON THE RECORD IN
% REPUBLICAN POLITICS SAYING
% "LET'S DO THIS."
% IT DOES SET A BLUEPRINT FOR
% REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR SHOULD TIM
% MICHELS WIN TO STAKE SWEEPING
% STEPS QUICKLY.
% >> WHAT ELSE WILL BE FIRST OUT
% OF THE BLOCKS?
% I THINK THE ELECTION BILLS
% WOULD BE COMING PRETTY FAST.
% BECAUSE THE REPUBLICAN BASE
% SAYS THEY WANT THEM.
% AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE IS
% PROBABLY NOT ALL THE CHANGES
% REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO BE
% DOING WHEN IT COMES TO
% ELECTION LAW.
% THERE IS GOING TO BE A PUSH TO
% POSSIBLY ELIMINATE THE
% WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
% COMMISSION.
% THERE A WHOLE BUNCH THAT
% REPUBLICANS TALKED ABOUT IN
% THEIR PRIMARY COMPLAIN THAT
% THE BASE WANTS.
% WE HAVE AN ELECTION IN 2024
% THAT WILL BE CLOSE HERE IN
% WISCONSIN.
% >> WITH ALL OF THESE BILLS
% CONCEIVABLY COME BACK OR IS
% SOME OF IT REPUBLICANS TRYING
% TO DRAW THE VETO TO MESSAGE
% THE BASE?
% I THINK WHAT YOU JUST SAID
% THERE IS A VERY GOOD
% POSSIBILITY FOR SOME OF THEM.
% I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER.
% THIS WEAPON HAD A TALK LIKE
% THIS IN 2010.
% WHEN WE HAD A DEMOCRAT
% GOVERNOR WHO VETOED REPUBLICAN
% BILLS.
% SUDDENLY REPUBLICANS HAD ALL
% THE POWER.
% WE WENT THROUGH A LIST OF WHAT
% MIGHT THEY PASS.
% THEY DID PASS SOME OF THAT
% STUFF THAT THEY SENT TO GET
% VETOED.
% BUT NOT ALL OF IT.
% THERE WAS OTHER STUFF THAT WAS
% NOT ON THE LIST.
% I DON'T KNOW, SO I DON'T THINK
% YOU CAN LOOK TELL VETO LIST
% AND SAY THAT'S EVERYTHING THEY
% WILL DO NEXT YEAR.
% THERE ARE SOME BILLS ON THERE,
% FOR EXAMPLE ONE THAT WOULD
% EXEMPT ALL GUNS MADE IN
% WISCONSIN FROM ANY FEDERAL
% FIREARM LAWS.
% IT WOULD PROHIBIT FEDERAL BANS
% ON ASSAULT WEAPONS.
% THAT'S PRETTY BROAD STUFF.
% THEY MIGHT MASS IT AGAIN.
% BUT WE JUST DON'T KNOW.
% >> IT DOES SUFFICE TO SAY IT
% POINTS TO HIGH STAKES IN THIS
% ELECTION, FOR SURE.
% SHAWN JOHNSON MUCH
% >> NEXT WEEK, ZAC SCHULTZ IS%
ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL WITH THE
% CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR.
% FOR MORE ON THE STATE-WIDE%RA
CES AND OTHER ISSUES FACING% WISCON
SIN, VISIT OUR WEBSITE
% AT PBS WISCONSIN.ORG AND THEN
% CLICK ON THE NEWS TAB.
% ALSO, TURN TO WISCONSIN
% VOTE.ORG FOR UP-TO-DATE
% ELECTION COVERAGE AND
% INFORMATION.
% INCLUDING REAL-TIME RESULTS ON