% >> DURING MIDTERM ELECTIONS,
% VICTORY OFTEN COMES DOWN TO
% ONE THING:
% WHICH PARTY DOES A BETTER JOB
% OF GETTING THEIR VOTERS TO THE
% POLLS.
% OR TURN OUT.
% THIS FALL, DEMOCRATS ARE
% HOPING THE ISSUE OF ABORTION
% WILL NOT ONLY ENERGIZE THEIR
% BASE, BUT PULL IN SWING VOTERS
% WHO MAY HAVE VOTED REPUBLICAN
% IN THE PAST.
% WHEN ROE V. WADE WAS STILL THE
% LAW OF THE LAND.
% "HERE AND NOW" SENIOR
% POLITICAL REPORTER, ZAC
% SCHULTZ HAS THE STORY.
% [CHANTING]%WHEN THE UNITED ST
ATES SUPREME
% COURT OVERTURNED ROE VS WADE,
% THEY OVERTURNED THE
% CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT FOR WOMEN
% TO SEEK AN ABORTION.
% BUT THEY ALSO OVERTURNED
% DECADES OF CONVENTIONAL WISDOM
% ON JUST HOW MUCH THE ISSUE OF
% ABORTION CAN IMPACT AN
% ELECTION.
% [CHANTING]%>> IT WAS THIS KIN
D OF CRAZY% JAW-DROPPING MOMENT OF,
LIKE,% OH, MY GOD,THEY DID IT.
% >> AMAYA BARKER IS A VOLUNTEER
% FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD
% ADVOCATES OF WISCONSIN.
% THE ORGANIZING ARM OF PLANNED
% PARENTHOOD.
% SHE SAYS THERE WAS AN
% IMMEDIATE SURGE IN THE NUMBER
% OF PEOPLE LOOKING TO GET
% INVOLVED.
% >> I'VE SEE A LOT MORE PEOPLE
% BEING LIKE, WOW, I ACTUALLY
% HAVE TO DO SOMETHING NOW ABOUT
% THIS.
% SARAH BERNDSEN SIGNED UP, AND
% HER FIRST EVENT WAS THE
% BAYVIEW BASH IN MILWAUKEE,
% WHERE THE POINT WAS TO REMIND
% PEOPLE PLANNED PARENTHOOD WAS
% STILL OPEN PROVIDING
% HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
% JUST NOT ABORTIONS.
% >> IT'S BEEN A REALLY POSITIVE%
REACTION.
% WE HAVE HAD PEOPLE COMING UP
% REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT WE'RE
% OUT HERE PROVIDING
% INFORMATION.
% WHILE THEIR STAND DIDN'T%ADVO
CATE FOR ANY POLITICAL% CANDIDATES.
% THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF
% MILWAUKEE COUNTY WAS NEXT%DO
OR.
% AND ABORTION RIGHTS WERE FRONT%
AND CENTER.
% >> FOR MANY, MANY VOTERS,
% ESPECIALLY WOMEN ACROSS THE
% STATE, IT HAS BEEN SOMETHING
% THAT HAS GALVANIZED A LEVEL OF
% KIND OF POLITICAL OUTRAGE AND
% COMMITMENT TO CHANGE THAT WILL
% RESHAPE THIS ELECTION THIS
% FALL.
% BEN WIKLER IS THE CHAIR OF THE
% DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF WISCONSIN.
% HE THINKS ABORTION WILL SWING
% VOTES EVERYWHERE, NOT JUST
% MILWAUKEE AND MADISON.
% IF YOU KNOCK ON DOORS IN RURAL
% WISCONSIN, IN SUBURBS, IN
% CITIES ALIKE, THERE ARE PEOPLE
% EVEN WHO VOTED REPUBLICAN
% BEFORE WHO THINK THIS IS MUCH
% TOO FAR.
% I WAS VERY SHOCKED BY THE JUST
% THE SHEER RESPONSE THAT PEOPLE
% HAD IN THIS AREA.
% JESSA MICHIE IS A DIGITAL
% ORGANIZER FOR PLANNED
% PARENTHOOD ADVOCATES BASED IN
% STEVENS POINT IN CENTRAL%WISC
ONSIN.
% SHE SAYS THEY WERE OVERWHELMED
% AT FIRST BY THE NUMBER OF
% PEOPLE LOOKING TO VOLUNTEER.
% >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T
% DONE THIS BEFORE, THIS REALLY
% ACTIVATED A LOT OF FOLKS WHO
% WERE BRAND NEW TO IT.
% THE FOCUS NOW IS TRANSLATING
% THAT ENERGY INTO TURNOUT.
% WE'RE VERY, VERY FOCUSED ON
% VOTING.
% GETTING OUT THE VOTE IS THE
% MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT WE
% CAN DO AT THIS POINT IN
% WISCONSIN.
% >> THESE ARE OUR MATERIALS.
% AS, SEE,
% THIS IS FOCUSING N OUR
% CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES.
% PLANNED PARENTHOOD ADVOCATES
% ISN'T THE ONLY GROUP TALKING
% ABOUT ABORTION WITH VOTERS.
% >>GRACIE SKOGMAN IS THE
% LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR FOR
% PRO-LIFE WISCONSIN.
% >> THE GOAL IS THAT WE CAN GO
% TO ANY VOTER, REGARDLESS OF
% WHERE THEY STAND, AND GIVE
% THEM SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE
% ULTIMATELY WILL ENCOURAGE THEM
% TO SUPPORT PRO-LIFE
% CANDIDATES.
% SKOGMAN SAYS THE CASE THAT%OV
ERTURNED ROE, DOBBS VS
% JACKSON, WAS A VICTORY.
% BUT NOT THE END OF THE DEBATE.
% >> WE'VE WE'VE SEEN THAT
% PEOPLE ARE, OF COURSE, ARE
% REJOICING AND HAPPY, BUT THEN
% THEY THINK THAT IT'S TIME TO
% GO HOME AND STOP TALKING ABOUT
% THIS.
% BUT IT'S MORE IMPORTANT NOW
% THAN EVER BEFORE.
% SHE SAYS IT CAN BE A DELICATE
% CONVERSATION.
% I WENT EARLIER THIS WEEK AND
% PEOPLE WERE NOT SO RECEPTIVE.
% WE KNOW THAT THIS IS A VERY
% EMOTIONAL AND POLARIZING ISSUE
% RIGHT ON ON BOTH SIDES OF THE
% AISLE.
% PRO-LIFE WISCONSIN WOULD LIKE
% TO SHIFT THE CONVERSATION TO%
WHAT COMES NEXT.
% SPECIFICALLY, WHETHER A
% REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR AND
% LEGISLATURE WILL PROVIDE STATE
% FUNDING TO PREGNANCY RESOURCE%
CENTERS.
% THE NON-PROFITS THAT OFTEN
% OPEN UP ACROSS THE STREET FROM
% ABORTION CLINICS AND COUNSEL%
PREGNANT WOMEN AWAY FROM% ABORTION.
% >> I THINK OUR BEST WAY TO
% MOVE FORWARD IS ON THE
% UNIFYING ISSUE OF PREGNANCY
% RESOURCE CENTERS, HAVING
% CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PAID
% FAMILY LEAVE.
% THESE ARE BIPARTISAN ISSUES.
% >> JESSA MICHIE SAYS VOTERS
% AREN'T QUITE READY TO MOVE ON.
% >> I DEFINITELY THINK THAT
% PEOPLE STILL HAVE MORE TO SAY
% AND A LOT MORE FEELINGS ABOUT
% LOSING THAT ACCESS TO CARE.
% I DON'T THINK THAT FOLKS ARE
% READY TO MOVE ON AT ALL.
% I THINK THAT THEY'RE MORE
% ANGRY ABOUT THIS AND MORE
% ENERGIZED THAN THEY WERE
% BEFORE.
% >> HE SAID IT'S, QUOTE, NOT
% UNREASONABLE FOR THE STATE
% GOVERNMENT TO MANDATE RAPE
% VICTIMS TO GIVE BIRTH.
% >> DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR TONY
% EVERS IS HOPING TO CAPITALIZE
% ON THAT ENERGY.
% HE'S BEEN RUNNING ADS HITTING
% HIS OPPONENT, REPUBLICAN TIM
% MICHELS, ON ABORTION.
% >> TIM MICHELS IS WAY TOO
% RADICAL FOR WISCONSIN.
% >> DO I THINK IT'S AN
% IMPORTANT ISSUE IN THE RACE?
% YES.
% LOOK AT WHERE MY OPPONENT IS
% ON THIS AND ON THAT ISSUE.
% SO DO I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE%
A FACTOR?%YES, ABSOLUTELY.
% >> ALMOST EVERY SINGLE ATTACK
% THAT'S OUT THERE ON REPUBLICAN
% CANDIDATES HAS TO DO WITH
% DOBBS.
% >> PAUL FARROW IS THE CHAIRMAN%
OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF%WISCON
SIN.
% HE SAYS THE EVERS ADS ARE OVER%
THE TOP.
% I THINK OUR CONVERSATION OF
% MAKING SURE THE HEALTH OF THE
% WOMAN AND HEALTH OF THE CHILD
% IS JUST AS IMPORTANT, IS KIND
% OF TAMPERING DOWN WHAT THE
% LEFT IS SAYING, THAT WE'RE
% TRYING TO CRIMINALIZE WOMEN%
LEFT AND RIGHT.
% >> GOVERNOR EVERS AND THE LEFT
% HAVE SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF
% DOLLARS MISCHARACTERIZING MY%
POSITION, CALLING ME A
% RADICAL.
% I AM PRO-LIFE AND I MAKE NO%
APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
% BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHO THE REAL
% RADICAL IS.
% THE REAL RADICAL IS GOVERNOR%
EVERS.
% >> TIM MICHELS DID NOT AGREE
% TO AN INTERVIEW FOR THIS%STOR
Y, BUT HAS HAD TROUBLE
% BEING CONSISTENT IN HIS
% POSITION ON ABORTION.
% WITHOUT THE PROTECTION OF
% ROE-V-WADE, WISCONSIN REVERTED
% BACK TO AN 1849 LAW ON
% ABORTION THAT ONLY PROVIDES
% EXCEPTIONS IF TWO DOCTORS FEEL
% IT IS NEEDED TO SAVE THE LIFE
% OF THE MOTHER.
% MICHELS ORIGINALLY CAMPAIGNED
% ON HIS SUPPORT FOR THAT LAW.
% BUT HAS SINCE SAID HE WOULD
% SUPPORT A BILL THAT PROVIDES
% EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE AND%INCE
ST.
% >> I'VE SAID IF A BILL IS PUT
% BEFORE ME FROM THE
% LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS A DIRECT
% REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE,
% AND IT HAS AN EXCEPTION IN IT
% FOR RAPE AND INCEST, THAT I%
WOULD SIGN THAT BILL.% A FEW DAYS L
ATER, MICHELS
% ADDED ANOTHER CHANGE.
% >> I WILL NEVER ARREST A
% DOCTOR, AS THEY'RE SAYING.
% I'M A REASONABLE GUY.
% >> HOWEVER, UNDER THE 1849
% LAW, DOCTORS PROVIDING AN
% ABORTION CAN BE ARRESTED, AND
% HIS CAMPAIGN HAD TO CLARIFY
% THAT MICHELS JUST WOULDN'T BE
% THE ONE DOING THE ARRESTING.
% SAYING, "THE DISTRICT
% ATTORNEYS SHOULD ENFORCE ALL
% LAWS.
% THE GOVERNOR IS AN EXECUTIVE.
% HE'S NOT A DA OR BEAT COP
% ARRESTING ANYONE.
% >> EVERS DOESN'T BUY IT.
% >> THERE'S NO WAY I BELIEVE IT
% AND NO WAY PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN
% BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE
% THIS HARD CORE SOMETHING
% THAT'S PART OF YOUR INSIDE
% POSITION THAT RAPE OR INCEST
% IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU
% SHOULD EXCLUDE FROM THIS LAW.
% NEVER.
% THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME
% BECAUSE OF MY CONVICTIONS.
% AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, THE
% NEXT DAY YOU SAY, WELL, I
% GUESS I DON'T HAVE ANY
% CONVICTIONS.
% MICHIE SAYS MICHELS IS
% MUDDYING THE WATER.
% >> THAT'S THE INTENTION, I
% THINK, IN A LOT OF CASES IS TO
% JUST SORT OF MUDDLE THE ISSUE
% AND CONFUSE PEOPLE.
% >> HOWEVER, GRACIE SKOGMAN IS
% CLEAR ON WHERE PRO-LIFE
% WISCONSIN STANDS.
% >> OUR POSITION IS WE ARE NOT
% IN FAVOR OF ADDING A RAPE AND
% INCEST EXCEPTION.
% MY ONLY CONCERN IS, LET'S SAY
% THERE'S A RAPE CASE.
% EVEN IF THEIR VOTERS AT THE
% DOORS HAVE A DIFFERENT%OPINIO
N.
% >> REPORTING FROM MADISON, I'M
% ZAC SCHULTZ, FOR HERE AND NOW.