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% >>> THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE
% DON'T FEEL THAT THE ELECTION WAS
% CERTIFIABLE, THEREFORE, THE
% REQUEST TO DECERTIFY IS ON THE
% TABLE, AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE AN
% ACTION.%>> SO REPUBLICAN CAN
DIDATE FOR
% GOVERNOR AND STATE
% REPRESENTATIVE, TIM RAMTHUN,%
CONTINUES TO CALL ON THE
% LEGISLATURE TO DECERTIFY THE
% 2020 ELECTION.
% NOW, THAT IS REGARDED AS A LEGAL
% IMPOSSIBILITY, BUT THE FALLOUT
% FROM THE LAST ELECTION CONTINUES
% TO ROYAL WISCONSIN AND IN ALL
% THE WAYS WE KNOW.
% THE GABLEMAN INVESTIGATION,
% STATE SUPREME COURT RULINGS ON
% DROP BOXES AND CALLS TO ABOLISH
% THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION, AND
% NOW THERE'S MORE THAT PROMPTED
% AND EMERGENCY MEETING OF
% COMMISSIONERS THURSDAY NIGHT.
% SOMEONE AT THE EPICENTER OF
% THIS, FORMER CHAIR OF THE
% WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
% AND DEMOCRAT, ANN JACOBS.
% THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
% HERE.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
% ME.
% >> SO WHAT CAME TO LIGHT THIS
% WEEK IS THE TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO
% PROVE ELECTION FRAUD
% VULNERABILITIES ADMITTED TO
% COMMITTING FRAUD BY REQUESTING
% ABSENTEE BALLOTS IN OTHER
% PEOPLE'S NAMES INCLUDING ROBIN
% VOS.
% AS AN ELECTION COMMISSIONER,
% WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
% >> I'M ASTONISHED AT THE FACT
% THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT AND
% INTENTIONALLY COMMITTING%ELEC
TION CRIMES AND PRETENDING
% THEY ARE DOING IT TO SOMEHOW
% PROVE FRAUD IN AN ELECTION.
% WHAT THEY DID BROKE THE LAW, AND
% THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.
% >> AND SO I KNOW THAT THE
% ELECTIONS COMMISSION VOTED TO
% PUT OUT FLIERS AHEAD OF THE
% PRIMARY, KIND OF WARNING CLERKS
% AND OTHERS ABOUT THIS.
% WHAT MORE SPECIFICALLY DO YOU
% WANT, AND HOW SOON?
% >> WELL, WHAT WE WANT IS PEOPLE
% TO STOP DOING THIS, AND WE THINK
% LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD STOP
% ENCOURAGING IT.
% WHAT WE DID INDICATE WAS WE
% WOULD SEND POSTCARDS TO PEOPLE
% WHO HAD THEIR ABSENTEE BALLOTS
% SENT TO AN ADDRESS OTHER THAN
% THE HOME ADDRESS, HOME
% REGISTRATION ADDRESS, TO ENSURE
% THERE'S NOT THIS MONKEY BUSINESS
% GOING AROUND ELSEWHERE.
% WE ALSO DID NOTIFY CLERKS THAT
% THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO REFER
% CASES OF FRAUD, WHICH WOULD
% INCLUDE CASES LIKE WHAT WE ARE
% DISCUSSING, TO THEIR LOCAL
% DISTRICT ATTORNEY IF THEY FIND
% IT, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
% ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE THE MY
% VOTE WEBSITE TO CHECK THEIR OWN
% ABSENTEE BALLOT STATUS.
% >> GREAT.
% WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CALLS FROM
% TIM RAMTHUN AND DONALD TRUMP TO
% DECERTIFY THE 2020 ELECTION IN
% WISCONSIN?%>> ELECTIONS ARE N
OT ABOUT
% FEELINGS.
% ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT NUMBERS.
% IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, WE
% HAD AN ACCURATE, PROPERLY
% TALLIED RECOUNTED ELECTION WHERE
% DONALD TRUMP LOST BY 20,000
% VOTES.
% IN COMPARISON, IN 2016, WE HAD
% AN ACCURATELY TALLIED, RECOUNTED
% VOTE WHERE DONALD TRUMP WON BY
% 20,000 VOTES.
% SAME ELECTION ADMINISTRATION.
% SAME ELECTION OFFICIALS.
% SAME RULES.
% SOMETIMES VOTERS CHANGE THEIR
% MINDS.
% TELLING PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE FEEL
% THE ELECTION WASN'T FAIR AND
% ACCURATE SIMPLY REINFORCES THE
% INCORRECT POSITION OUR ELECTIONS
% WAS ANYTHING BUT ACCURATE.
% >> FALSE PUBLIC ELECTORS LIKE
% ONE OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS
% ARE ON THE RADAR OF FEDERAL
% INVESTIGATORS.
% WHY DID THE COMMISSION, THOUGH,
% UNANIMOUSLY VOTE NOT TO SANCTION
% THEM?
% >> THE DECISION OF THE
% COMMISSION, I THINK, IS BEST
% ARTICULATED IN THE MEMO GIVEN BY
% THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT
% WAS INCORPORATED INTO OUR
% DECISION, AND IT WAS ON THAT
% BASIS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE
% THAT DECISION.
% NOW, RECALL THAT THE COMMISSION
% DID THAT WITH COMMISSIONER
% SITTING IN ON IT, AND SINCE THE
% LAWSUIT WAS FILED, HE'S NOW
% AGREED TO RESCUE HIMSELF FROM
% FUTURE DISCUSSING OF IT, AND
% THERE'S NOW AN ACTION IN CIRCUIT
% COURT TO RETURN THE
% INVESTIGATION TO THE COMMISSION
% FOR FURTHER EVALUATION.
% WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS A
% LOT OF THE RECENT INFORMATION WE
% RECEIVE ON THE FALSE ELECTORS
% CAME OUT AFTER THE COMMISSION'S
% DECISION.%>> THERE HAVE BEEN
CALLS TO
% ABOLISH THE ELECTIONS
% COMMISSION.%WHAT'S YOUR RESP
ONSE TO THAT?
% >> WELL, THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT
% THE WISCONSIN LEGISLATURE DOES
% EVERY TIME SOMEONE THEY DON'T
% LIKE WINS.
% WE STARTED OUT WITH THE
% SECRETARY OF STATE, AND THEY DID
% NOT LIKE HOW THAT PERSON HAD THE
% ELECTION, SO THEY CREATED A
% STATE ELECTION BOARD.
% THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT, SO THEY
% CREATED THE GOVERNMENT
% ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.%THEY D
IDN'T LIKE HOW THE
% GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD%
WORKED SO THEY CREATED THE
% ELECTIONS COMMISSION, AND NOW
% THAT THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION,
% WHICH REQUIRES BIPARTISAN
% APPROVAL OF ALL OF ITS ACTIONS,
% NOW THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE
% ELECTIONS COMMISSION BECAUSE%
DONALD TRUMP LOST, THEY WANT TO% GO
BACK TO A SECRETARY OF STATE.
% >> HOW CAN I GET TO THIS WITH A
% MINUTE LEFT?
% WHAT EFFECT, IN YOUR MIND, DOES
% ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS TALK OF
% DECERTIFY CASES OF ELECTIONS,
% AND LAW CHANGES HAVE ON THE
% AVERAGE VOTER AND THE CLERKS?
% >> WELL, ON THE CLERKS, IT'S
% MADE THEM -- THEY HAVE BEEN
% ACCUSED OF MALFEASANCE AND
% PHYSICAL AND VERBAL THREATS MADE
% AGAINST THEM.
% THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
% FOR THE AVERAGE VOTER, GO VOTE.
% YOUR VOTE WILL COUNT.
% THE VOTE IS ACCURATE.
% IT IS SAFE.
% WE WANT YOU TO GET OUT THERE AND
% VOTE.
% WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IN
% AUGUST.%ANOTHER ONE IN NOVEM
BER.
% LET'S GO VOTE.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% ANN JACOBS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH