% >> LIVE FROM MILWAUKEE PBS
% STUDIOS IN DOWNTOWN MILWAUKEE.
% THE BROADCAST FOUNDATION
% PRESENTS THE 2022 DEBATE WITH
% REPUBLICAN SENATOR RON JOHNSON
% AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MANDELA
% BARNES, NOW MICHELE VETTERKIND.
% >> GOOD EVENING THE BROADCASTER
% ASSOCIATION AND RADIO AND
% TELEVISION STATIONS ARE PLEASED
% TO WELCOME YOU TO THIS SENATE
% DEBATE.%TONIGHT ORIGINATING
FROM THE
% MILWAUKEE PBS TO BRING THIS
% DEBATE TO YOU.
% TONIGHT'S DEBATE CONTINUES THE
% EXCELLENCE TO PUBLIC SERVICE AND
% UNDERWRITTEN BY THE GRANT OF
% INDEPENDENT COLLEGES AND WHY
% NOTES.%AND NOW MODERATOR, FRO
M LOYOLA
% UNIVERSITY, CHICAGO JILL GISNER.
% >> GOOD EVENING,%TUESDAY, NOV
EMBER 8, WISCONSIN
% VOTERS WILL DECIDE WHO WILL BE %
THEIR U.S. SENATOR FOR THE NEXT %
6 YEARS.
% OUR GOAL TONIGHT IS TO HELP YOU
% MAKE AN INFORMED CHOICE AS YOU
% HEAR FROM THE TWO MAJOR PARTY
% CANDIDATES, INCUMBENT SENATOR
% RON JOHNSON AND WISCONSIN LT.
% GOVERNOR MANDELA BARNES.
% THE CANDIDATES HAVE AGREED TO
% THE RULES.
% FOR EACH QUESTION, THEY WILL BE
% TOLD THE LENGTH OF TIME THEY
% HAVE FOR RESPONSES --EITHER ONE %
MINUTE OR 30 SECONDS.
% THEY AND I CAN SEE COUNTDOWN %
CLOCKS.
% WHEN THEY HIT THEIR TIME LIMIT, %
I WILL ADVISE THEM.
% IF THEY CONTINUE, I WILL NOTE IT
% AND THEIR MICROPHONE WILL CEASE
% TO WORK.
% IF CANDIDATES FAIL TO ANSWER A
% SPECIFIC QUESTION OR CHANGE THE
% SUBJECT, I WILL EXERCISE THE
% MODERATOR'S OPTION TO CALL THAT
% OUT - AND GIVE THEM JUST 30
% SECONDS TO GIVE A SPECIFIC
% ANSWER.
% PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS DEBATE
% WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL
% SERVICE FOR VOTERS.%MANY COM
PLEX ISSUES REQUIRE
% DEEPER CONTEXT AND VERIFICATION,%
ESPECIALLY WHEN CHARGES AND %CO
UNTERCHARGES ARE EXCHANGED OR
% WHEN STATISTICS AND SHORTHAND
% TERMS ARE USED.
% THANKS TO OUR DEBATE'S DATA
% TEAM, WE WILL BE PROVIDING YOU
% LINKS TO ADDITIONAL RESEARCH
% MATERIALS ABOUT OUR KEY TOPICS.
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% FOLLOW THE LINK YOU SEE ON
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% OUR HASHTAG IS #WBADEBATE.
% THE ORDER OF RESPONSE FOR THE
% FIRST QUESTION AND LAST WAS
% DETERMINED BY COIN TOSS.
% WITH THAT, LET'S BEGIN WITH THE
% FIRST QUESTION FROM A MEMBER OF
% OUR QUESTION TEAM, KIM MURPHY
% FROM WITI TV IN MILWAUKEE.
% YOU'RE SEEING HER PICTURE.
% DESPITE HER HARD WORK, SHE CAN'T
% BE HERE BECAUSE OF COVID
% PROTOCOLS, SO SHE'S ASKED HER
% TEAMMATES TO PRESENT HER
% QUESTIONS FOR HER.
% LET'S GO TO DALE RYMAN OF WSAW
% TV IN WAUSAU.
% >> THANK YOU JILL.
% GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN, WE WANT
% TO START WITH THE TOPIC OF
% MARIJUANA LEGISLATION, THIS NEW
% YESTERDAY THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN
% IS PARDONING THOUSANDS OF
% AMERICANS CONVICTED OF
% POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA UNDER
% FOLLOW L -- FEDERAL LAW AND IT'
% A STEP OF CHARGES THAT
% DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACT PEOPLE
% OF COLOR.
% WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THE
% FEDERAL LEGALIZATION OF
% MARIJUANA, SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> GOOD EVENING AND THANK THE
% WISCONSIN BROADCAST ASSOCIATION
% AND THE WISCONSIN PUBLIC TV
% STATION FOR HOSTING THIS AND FOR
% THE PANELS PARTICIPATING.
% I HOPE THAT THE QUESTIONS FAIR
% AND BALANCED AND FOCUSED ON THE
% ISSUES THAT IMPACT WISCO
% WISCONSINITES.%AND WE HAVE DI
SCUSS ON INFLATION
% AND SKY ROCKETING PRICES AND
% MARIJUANA, TALKING ABOUT DRUGS,
% MARIJUANA.%I THINK IT OUGHT T
O BE A STATE
% BY STATE DECISION AND ON FEDERAL
% BASIS WHERE IT DOESN'T MAKE
% WHERE MARIJUANA IS LEGAL NOT
% ABLE TO USE A BANKING SYSTEM AND
% MARIJUANA COMPANIES HAVE
% MOUNTAINS OF CASH THAT LEADS TO
% POTENTIAL FOR CRIME.
% I SEE THE FEDERAL ASSOCIATION
% OPEN THE BANKING SYSTEM TO
% LEGALIZE MARIJUANA.
% I SUGGEST THAT ANY STATE TAKE A
% LOOK SERIOUSLY AT THE HARM DONE
% BY LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA.
% AND SENATOR -- CONSIDER THAT
% CAREFULLY.%>> THANK YOU SENAT
OR.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND FOR THE
% QUESTION, I LONG SUPPORTED FULL
% LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA AS
% LEGISLATION AND AS LIEUTENANT
% GOVERNOR WHAT I HOPE THAT WE
% ACCOMPLISH AS A NATION IF
% ELECTED TO THE SYSTEM.
% AND FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE FALL
% THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND THIS IS
% LEGAL IN NEIGHBORING STATES AND
% MEDICAL MARIJUANA IN MINNESOTA,
% THOSE STATES ARE RECEIVING HUGE
% BENEFITS BECAUSE OF THE REVENUE
% FOR LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA
% THAT GOES TO THE SCHOOLS AND
% ROADS.%AND MORE IMPORTANTLY I
T'S MONEY
% THAT WISCONSIN MISSES OUT.
% AND IF WE HAD FEDERAL
% LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA SO %
MUCH MORE TO DO THIS IN STATE.
% AND UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE
% PEOPLE BEHIND FOR DECADES IN
% THIS INDUSTRY.
% AND NOW MARIJUANA IS HARMLESS
% AND SOMETHING THAT STATES ALL
% OVER THE COUNTRY HAVE EMBRACED.
% >> YOUR TIME IS UP.
% THANK YOU, NOW TO MARK.
% >> THIS IS QUESTION ON CONDITION
% OF BAIL.
% THE TRIAL OF DARRELL BROOKS GOT
% YOU SHOULD WAY IN WAUSAU COUNTY.
% AND RAISING THE ISSUE WHICH
% PRETRIAL DEFENDANT KEPT BEHIND
% BARS AND A PAYMENT OF MONEY
% CONDITION OF PRETRIAL CONTINUE
% RELEASED FROM JAILS.
% AND DETAILS OF DEFENDANTS WITH
% ACCESS TO MONEY BUY THEIR WAY
% OUT OF JAIL WHILE POORER REMAIN
% LOCKED UP.
% DO YOU THINK THAT KEEPING THEM
% LIKED UP IS A THREAT TO PUBLIC
% SAFETY AND FAIL TO APPEAR BACK
% IN COURT AND NOT THE ABILITY TO
% PAY BAIL.
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR ONE MINUTE.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH I
% APPRECIATE THIS QUESTION AND
% IT'S BEEN SENSATIONALIZED AND
% MISCHARACTERIZED.%I SUPPORTE
D BAIL REFORM AND
% UNDER MY PLAN DANGEROUS PEOPLE
% DON'T GET TO BUY THEIR WAY OUT
% OF PRISON.
% AND SENATOR JOHNSON MAY HAVE
% ENCOUNTED A WAY TO BUY OUT AND
% NOT THE MAJORITY FOR PEOPLE IN
% THE STATE AND PEOPLE HAVE USED
% THE WAUSAU TRAGEDY, AND UNDER MY
% PLAN THE PERPETRATOR WOULD NOT
% HAVE GOTTEN OUT IF PAYING
% $1,000.
% AND THIS IS KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE
% AND THOSE THAT CAUSE HARM NOT
% BUY THEIR WAY OUT OF JAIL.
% THAT'S THE SYSTEM WE HAVE AND
% THE REFORM THAT I SUPPORT IS
% SUPPORTED BY REPUBLICANS ACROSS
% THE COUNTRY.
% >> SENATOR.%ONE MINUTE.
% >> WE HAVE A HUGE PROBLEM OF SKY
% ROCKETING CRIME AND ONE ISSUE
% NOT KEEPING CRIMINALS IN JAIL.
% AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IN
% LEGISLATURE WROTE THE BILL TO
% ELIMINATE CASH BAIL.
% THAT'S ONE OF THE METHODS TO USE
% TO KEEP THEM IN JAIL.
% AND THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR THE
% GOAL IS REDUCE THE PRISON
% POPULATION BY 50% AND THEY
% PATROLLED CRIMINALS AND THINK
% THAT THEY START WITH NONVIOLENT.
% AND THE OTHER WERE VIOLENT
% CRIMINALS INCLUDING 44 CHILD
% RAPISTS.
% 270 CRIMINALS THAT COMMITTED OR
% ATTEMPTED MURDER.
% AND THE MURDERS HORRIFIC.
% IF YOU WANT TO REDUCE CRIME YOU
% HAVE TO FULLY FUND THE POLICE
% AND OF COURSE MY OPPONENT IS
% OPPOSED TO FULLY FUNDING POLICE
% BUDGETS BUT WE NEED TO KEEP
% CRIMINALS IN JAIL.
% >> SENATOR, THANK YOU.
% >> I WOULD LIKE --
% >> SORRY TIME IS UP.
% WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOU TIME AT
% THE END, IF THERE IS SOMETHING
% THAT YOU FEEL HAS BEEN
% MISREPRESENTED.%YOU WILL HAV
E TIME AT THE END IN
% A FINAL QUESTION.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> MARCY.
% >> THERE IS AN AGREEMENT ON BOTH
% SIDES OF THE AISLE THAT
% SOMETHING ABOUT OUR COUNTRY'S
% IMMIGRATION SYSTEM NEEDS TO
% CHANGE AND HOW IS THE STICKING
% POINT AND TO AFFECT EMPLOYMENT
% RATE IN WISCONSIN AND ESTIMATED
% TO SHRINK 130,000 PEOPLE IF WE
% DON'T HAVE INCREASE IN
% MIGRATION.
% WOULD YOU LOOK TO MAKE A PATH TO
% CITIZENSHIP AS A SOLUTION TO
% THIS?
% SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> TO HAVE IMMIGRATION REFORM WE
% HAD TO SECURE THE BORDER AND HAD
% IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION
% AND HAD EXPORTED UNCOMPANIED
% CHILDREN AND CUT IN HALF ADULT
% IMMIGRATION UNTIL PRESIDENT
% BIDEN TOOK OFFICE AND THE BORDER
% OPENED UP.
% WE ARE DEALING WITH 7,000 PEOPLE
% PER DAY ENCOUNTERED AND PROZED
% AND DISPERSED.
% AND OPENED UP OUR BORDER TO THE
% FLOW OF DEADLY DRUGS.
% IMMIGRANTS ARE ABUSED BY HUMAN
% TRAFFICKERS, 180 MILLION
% BUSINESS.%THE HUMAN TRAFFICK
ING AND SEX
% TRAFFICKING THAT'S UNTOLD STORY
% AND UNFORTUNATELY NEWS MEDIA BY
% PRESIDENT BIDEN.
% >> AND SENATOR ABOUT IMMIGRATION
% REFORM.%>> FIRST SECURE THE
BORDER AND
% ONCE YOU HAVE DONE THAT ASYLUM
% STANDARD, NOW WE HAVE A STANDARD
% OF LOW FEAR.
% AND STEP INTO THE COUNTRY AND
% AFRAID TO GO HOME AND NOT CLOSE
% TO QUALIFY FOR ASYLUM.
% AND LET THEM IN AND BACKLOGED
% AND SWE HAVE THREE MILLION IN TE
% COUNTRY SINCE BIDEN.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> I SUPPORT COMPREHENSIVE
% REFORM A PATH FOR DREAMERS AND
% FAMILIES.%AND WHAT WE ARE DO
ING DOES NOT
% WORK AND IT'S AGREED THAT WE
% IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND I HAVE
% SPENT TIME TALKING TO FAMILY
% FARMERS AND KNOW THAT IT'S GOOD
% FOR THE ECONOMY AS YOU
% MENTIONED.
% THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
% DO, CREATE A SYSTEM THAT KEEPS
% OUR BORDER SAFE AND TREATS
% PEOPLE WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT
% AND NOT SUBJECT OUR CHILDREN TO
% HORRORS OF THE FAMILY
% SEPARATION.%THE SENATOR HAD
12 YEARS DO
% SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND A
% CHANCE WITH BIPARTISAN
% INFRASTRUCTURE LAW.
% THERE WAS FUNDING FOR BORDER
% MODERNIZATION.
% AND THE SENATOR DECIDED TO PLAY
% POLITICS THAN THE RIGHT THING.
% >> GO TO WKOW, MADISON.
% >> GENTLEMEN, THIS IS A TWO-PART
% QUESTION ON ISSUE OF SOCIAL
% SECURITY, IT'S ON PACE TO BE
% UNDERFUNDED BY 2024.
% SENATOR JOHNSON, TO ADDRESS THIS
% CONCERN YOU SUPPORT MAKING THE
% PROGRAM A DISCRETIONARY ONE,
% MEANING THAT CONGRESS CAN MAKE
% CHANGES IN EACH BUDGET CYCLE AND
% MANDELA BARNES YOU OPPOSE THAT.
% WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO TO MAKE
% SURE THAT THE PROGRAM IS FULLY
% FUNDED.
% >> THANK YOU, WHEN I THINK ABOUT
% SOCIAL SECURITY, I THINK MY
% GRANDPARENTS AND PARENTS AND SO
% MANY OTHER RETIRED AMERICANS
% THAT PAID IN THE SYSTEM AND
% DESERVE TO RETIRE WITH DIGNITY
% AND RESPECT.
% AND UNFORTUNATE THAT SENATOR
% JOHNSON SAID THAT SOCIAL
% SECURITY IS A PONZI SCHEME AND
% CALLED SOCIAL SECURITY CANDY.
% THIS IS KEEPING PEOPLE THAT
% WORKED THEIR ENTIRE LIVES
% AFLOAT.%AND THE THREAT TO TA
KE THAT AWAY
% FROM THEM DOES NOT SIT WELL WITH
% ME ALONG WITH MOST PEOPLE.
% WE SHOULD STRENGTHEN SOCIAL
% SECURITY, WE CAN DO THAT MAKING
% SURE THAT THE WEALTHY PAY THEIR
% FAIR SHARE.
% WE NEED TO BE SURE THAT
% BILLIONAIRES PAYING MORE IN THE
% SYSTEM.%AND THE SENATOR WENT
INTO THE
% DEFICIT BUT NO PROBLEM THROWING
% A 2 TRILLION HOLE IN THE DEFICIT
% THAT GAVE TAX DEDUCTIONS TO THE
% SINGLE DONORS.
% >> TIME IS UP AND TO BE
% SPECIFIC, SHOULD IT BE REVIEWED
% EACH YEAR?
% >> IT SHOULD NOT BE
% DISCRETIONARY SPENDING.
% >> SENATOR.
% >> LET ME MAKE MYSELF VERY
% CLEAR, I WANT TO SAVE SOCIAL
% SECURITY, I WANT TO SAVE
% MEDICARE.
% THE GREATEST THREAT TO SOCIAL
% SECURITY MEDICARE IS THE OUT OF
% CONTROL DEFICIT SPENDING IN
% GROWING DEBT.
% WE HAVE ADDED $7 TRILLION IN THE
% LAST YEARS AND SPARKED
% INFLATION.
% 40-YEAR HIGH INFLATION.
% AND YOU REALIZE THAT THE DOLLAR
% YOU HELD AT START OF BIDEN
% ADMINISTRATION IS WORTH 88.3
% CENTS AND IF YOU WERE A SENIOR
% AND THAT 100,000 IS WORTH 88,
% 300 BECAUSE OF OUT OF CONTROL
% DEFICIT SPENDING AND I SAY TO
% LOOK AT ALL SPENDING AND
% PRIORITIZE AND SOCIAL SECURITY
% AND MEDICARE IS AT THE TOP.
% I NEVER SAID THAT I CUT IT AND
% FALSE ATTACK.
% >> CALLED IT A PONZI SCHEME --
% AND CANDY.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, YOU
% PROPOSED SOCIAL SECURITY THAN
% ENTITLEMENT.
% >> YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS IN MY
% MOUTH.
% >> SIR.
% YOUR WORDS.
% >> I WAS TALKING ABOUT -- PART
% OF THE REASON 31 TRILLION IN
% DEBT BECAUSE WE SEPARATED
% MANDATORY AND DISCRETIONARY
% SPENDING.
% WE DON'T LOOK AT 70% OF THE
% BUDGET AND SPEND LIKE DRINKEN
% ST
% SAILORS.%AND WE CAN'T AFFORD
3 BILLION ON
% THE GREEN NEW DEAL.
% >> BACK TO WHETHER OR NOT --
% >> PARDON.
% WE HAVE TO HONOR THE PROMISES
% AND THE GREATEST THREAT IS OUT
% OF CONTROL DEFICIT SPENDING.
% >> NEXT QUESTION.
% I'M SORRY -- NEXT QUESTION WITH
% BRAD WILLIAMS LA CROSSE.
% >> OUR QUESTION IS ABOUT MINIMUM
% WAGE.
% MANY AMERICANS CONTINUE TO
% STRUGGLE TO MAKE A MINIMUM WAGE
% AND IN THE FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE
% YOU FAVORED AND WHAT DOLLAR WAGE
% AND AT AND WHY.
% SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> I SAID THAT I WOULD CONSIDER
% POSSIBLY TO INCREASE TO A POINT
% OF INDEXING TO INFLATION.
% YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, WHEN YOU
% INCREASE MINIMUM WAGE YOU CAN
% ELIMINATE JOBS.
% THE STRONG ECONOMY IS THE BEST
% APPROACH AND I DON'T LIKE THE
% FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN PRICE
% FIXING AND IN THE PREVIOUS
% ADMINISTRATION YOU HAD PLENTY OF
% JOBS AND RISING WAGES AND
% INCREASE FOR THE FAMILY AND TO
% HAVE THE MARKETPLACE TAKE CARE
% THAN GOVERNMENT SET A MINIMUM
% WAGE.%THAT THEN STARTS ELIMI
NATING
% JOBS AND DOESN'T DO MUCH GOOD IF
% YOU HAVE A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE
% AND DON'T HAVE A JOB AND THEN A
% ZERO WAGE.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BARNES.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, THE
% SENATOR THREW OUT A FIG WITH
% NEST EGG AND INFLATION AND SAY
% HE IS RIGHT, THE REALITY IS THAT
% PEOPLE HAVE MADE 7.25 MINIMUM
% WAGE AND I LONG PROPONENT OF $15
% MINIMUM WAGE.
% SINCE 2014 WHEN THE ADVOCATES
% CALLING FOR IT AND SHOULD BE AT
% $15 MINIMUM WAGE, PEOPLE ARE
% WORKING HARDER AND NOT MAKING
% THE MONEY.
% IF SENATOR JOHNSON IS SERIOUS
% ABOUT INNFLATION AND PEOPLE
% STRUGGLE TO PAY THE BILLS.
% THAT'S THE REALITY AND IT WILL
% CONTINUE TO BE THE REALITY IF WE
% HAVE PEOPLE IN OFFICE THAT ARE
% ONLY GOING TO PRIORITIZE THE
% RICHEST PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY
% AND LEAVE THE HARD-WORKING
% PEOPLE BEHIND.%>> NEXT QUESTI
ON.
% >> I'M GOING TO ASK A SERIES OF
% QUESTIONS ON ABORTION.
% AND START WITH THE GENERAL IN
% WISCONSIN SINCE THE OVER TURNING
% OF ROE V. WADE, WE ARE BANNED BY
% ABORTIONS EXCEPT FOR THE LIFE OF
% THE MOTHER, POLL SAYS THAT 60%
% OPPOSE THE OVERTURNING ROE V.
% WADE AND SENATOR JOHNSON ONE
% IDEA IS TO ALLOW TO VOTE AT A
% STATE LEVEL AND THIS WEEK THEY
% GAVELLED IN AND OUT THE REALITY
% TO SUCH VOTES AND TALK ABOUT
% SPECIFICALLY WHAT YOU DO AT THE
% NATIONAL LEVEL.
% BARNES.%>> THANK YOU SO MUCH
, I AM AN
% ONLY CHILD BUT NOT MY MOTHER'S
% ONLY PREGNANCY, BEFORE I WAS
% BORN AND HAD A COMPLICATED
% PREGNANCY AND SHARED HER STORY
% AND IT WAS HER DECISION TO MAKE
% AND NOT POLITICIANS.
% AND EVERY MOTHER SHOULD BE ABLE
% TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
% THE SENATOR CALLED THE OWNER
% TURNING OF ROE V. WADE A
% VICTORY.%AND CELEBRATED THE D
ECISION.
% AND SAID IF WOMEN DON'T LIKE THE
% LAWS OF THE STATE LIKE THE 1829
% CRIMINAL ABORTION LAW THEY CAN
% MOVE.%AND I CAN'T THINK OF A
WORSE AND
% I WOULD OVERTURN ROE V. WADE FOR
% THE RIGHT FOR ABORTION TO
% PROTECT WOMEN'S RIGHTS.
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> AS JUSTICE SKALIA SAID AND
% THE EXTREME POSITION NO LIMITS
% ON ABORTION.
% ALLOWING TO THE MOMENT OF BIRTH
% WHAT LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
% SUPPORTS.
% WHAT I RECOMMENDED THAT WETHE
% PEOPLE DECIDE WITH A ONE-TIME
% SINGLE ISSUE REFERENDUM.
% THAT ASKS THE DECISION THAT WE
% NEED TO COME TO DECISION ON.
% WHICH IS AT WHAT POINT DOES
% SOCIETY HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY
% TO PROTECT LIFE IN THE WOMB.
% WE ALL AGREE THAT SOCIETY HAS
% RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT LIFE,
% I WANT WE THE PEOPLE TO DECIDE
% THAT AND ONE VOTE.
% >> FOLLOW UP.
% >> LET'S GET INTO SPECIFICS
% REGARDING HOW THE OVERTURNING OF
% ROE, SOME HAVE CONCERNS OF A
% SENATE OF THREE MEN TAKING THESE
% DECISIONS FOR THEM AND WHAT IS
% YOUR RIGHTS ON BIRTH CONTROL AND
% MORN AFTER PILL AND ADDITIONAL
% EMBRYOS CREATED THROUGH IBF.
% >> SENATOR.
% >> I HAVE LAID OUT THESE
% QUESTIONS ON WIS.COM.
% YOU CAN REFER TO THAT.
% I SUPPORT BIRTH CONTROL.
% I SUPPORT IN VITRO
% FERTILIZATION.%MY DAUGHTER HA
D.
% AND I SUPPORT ALL OF THESE, I
% NEVER CONSIDER CHARGING A WOMAN
% WITH UNPLANNED PREGNANCY.
% I AM TRANSPARENT ABOUT THIS.
% THIS HAS BEEN A DECISIVE ISSUE
% FOR 15 YEARS.
% BECAUSE NINE JUSTICES MADE
% DECISIONS FOR ALL OF US AND
% DIDN'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
% AND WHY I SUPPORT TO OVERTURN
% ROE V. WADE TO TURN BACK TO THE
% STATES SO WE CAN MAKE THE
% DECISION.
% THE QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED, AT
% WHAT POINT DOES SOCIETY HAVE THE
% RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT LIFE?
% IT'S THAT SIMPLE AND I LAID OUT
% A SAMPLE REFERENDUM BALLOT AND
% YOU CAN FIND THAT AT
% WISFACTS.COM.
% >> BARNES.
% >> THE SENATOR KNOWS THAT THE
% POSITION IT RUNNING OUT OF HIS
% OUT OF TOUCH POSITION.
% WHEN YOU TAKE A POSITION LIKE
% THAT AND SO MUCH YOU DON'T SEE.
% TALK ABOUT TEXAS, A WOMAN THAT
% HAD TO BE HOOKED UP TO A
% BREATHING MACHINE BECAUSE
% COMPLICATIONS OF PREGNANCY AND
% COULDN'T GET ABORTION.
% AND A 15 YEAR-OLD GIRL IS ACROSS
% THE STATE LINE TO GET ABORTION.
% AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT CHILDREN
% AND UNPLANNED PREGNANCIES AND
% SENATOR JOHNSON WENT SO FAR NOT
% HIS RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE CARE
% OF THE CHILDREN.
% AND WON'T SUPPORT A CHILD TAX
% CREDIT.%AND THE SENATOR WOUL
D RATHER
% MAKE A POLITICAL POINT THAN DO
% THE RIGHT THING TO PROTECT
% FAMILIES AND THE HEALTH OF
% WOMEN.
% >> THANK YOU, AND NOW MOVE ON.
% >> WE ARE HERE OF COURSE IN THE
% CITY OF MILWAUKEE THAT IS ON
% PACE FOR A THIRD YEAR TO SET A
% RECORD NUMBER OF HOMICIDES IN A
% SINGLE YEAR.
% THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE CURRENTLY
% GIVES MORE MONEY TO THE POLICE
% DEPARTMENT THAN ANY OTHER CITY
% AGENCY.
% WHAT IS THE ROLE OF CONGRESS IN
% ADDRESSING SUCH VIOLENT SURGES
% IN AMERICAN CITIES SHOULD A ROLE
% EXIST?%FOR EACH OF YOU WHAT I
S THREE
% SPECIFIC ACTIONS THAT CONGRESS
% TAKE IF ANY TO ADDRESS VIOLENCE.
% LIEUTENANT BARNES.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, I CAN'T
% SPEAK FOR ANYONE ELSE BUT I KNOW
% THE PAIN OF LOSING SOMEONE TO
% GUN VIOLENCE.
% I LOST MY FIRST FRIEND IN HIGH
% SCHOOL AND SEVERAL OTHERS AFTER.
% I KNOW IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE
% THIS WAY BECAUSE WASN'T ALWAYS
% THIS WAY.
% MY GRANDDAD MOVED TO MILWAUKEE
% AFTER WORLD WAR II AND PART OF A
% LABOR AND STEEL FACTORIES CLOSED
% DOORS AND A RISE IN CRIME AND
% VIOLENCE.
% WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
% COMMUNITIES HAVE THE RESOURCES
% TO PREVENT CRIME IN THE FIRST
% PLACE.
% THAT MEANS FULLY FUNDING THE
% SCHOOLS AND GOOD-PAYING JOBS IN
% THE COMMUNITY.
% AND WE ALSO INVESTED 100 MILLION
% IN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PUBLIC
% SAFETY AND CRIME PREVENTION
% THROUGH THE AMERICAN RESCUE
% PLAN.
% THAT SENATOR JOHNSON VOTED
% AGAINST PLAYING POLITICS THAN
% THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE OF
% WISCONSIN FIRST.
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> FIRST THING YOU DO IS SUPPORT
% LAW ENFORCEMENT.%AND UNFORTUN
ATELY LIEUTENANT
% GOVERNOR HAS NOT DONE THAT AND A
% RECORD OF DEFUND THE POLICE.
% AND DOESN'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT
% WORD BUT A LONG HISTORY OF
% SUPPORTING PEOPLE THAT ARE
% LEADING THE EFFORT TO DEFUND.
% USES THE CODE WORDS LIKE CODY
% BUSH, TALK OVER FUNDED POLICE
% BUDGETS AND PAINS HIM TO SEE
% FULLY FUNDING POLICE BUDGETS.
% WHEN I SEE A POLICE OFFICER I
% SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
% AND DON'T BE DISSPIRITED BY THE
% LOUD FEW THAT ARE TRYING TO DUEY
% -- DEFUND YOU.
% AND WE ARE 1,000 OFFICERS BELOW
% IN WISCONSIN THAN 2008.
% AND PEOPLE ARE HAVING A VERY
% DIFFICULT TIME.
% SHERIFFS ARE HAVING A DIFFICULT
% TIME RECRUITING NEW OFFICERS.
% MAY HAVE 100 RECRUITS MAY HAVE A
% DOZEN.
% ALL OF THIS DEFUND POLICE EFFORT
% IS HAVING A HARMFUL IMPACT.
% >> NOW ON TO MARK LELAND.
% >> THANK YOU, TALK MORE ON GUN
% LEGISLATION, FOLLOWING THE MASS
% SHOOTINGS THIS YEAR WITH
% ASSAULT-STYLE WEAPONS IN UVALDE
% AND BUFFALO, AND THE BIPARTISAN
% SAFETY LAW PASSED THIS SUMMER
% AND POLLS SHOW THAT THEY WANT
% CONGRESS TO DO MORE.
% WITH THAT END, WHAT WOULD YOU
% PUT ON MILITARY-STYLE ASSAULT
% WEAPONS AND WHEN IT COMES TO
% BACKGROUND CHECKS TO BUY A
% FIREARM DO YOU AGREE WITH THE
% PUBLIC SUPPORT OF THAT PLAN.
% SENATOR JOHNSON.%>> FIRST YOU
HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
% THAT WE HAVE 10,000 GUN CONTROL
% LAWS ON THE BOOKS OF AMERICA.
% IF GUN CONTROL WAS THE SOLUTION,
% IT HAVE BEEN SOLVED AND IT'S NOT
% THE SOLVE.
% WE NEED CUT DOWN CRIME AND RENEW
% THE FAITH AND FAMILY.
% AND WHEN WE HAVE THE LAWS AND
% MAYBE ENFORCE THEM.
% THERE WAS 112,000 FAILED
% BACKGROUND CHECKS IN 2017, 12
% PROSECUTIONS BEFORE YOU PASS GUN
% CONTROL LAWS AND ENFORCE WHAT IS
% ON THE BOOKS.
% AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT IS
% HAPPENING IN SOCIETY CAUSING ALL
% OF THIS VIOLENCE.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> THANK YOU, AS I MENTIONED
% BEFORE I DEALT WITH THIS TOO
% MUCH TO SPEND MY CAREER TO MAKE
% IT SAFER.
% AND OVERWHELMING TO SUPPORT
% BACKGROUND CHECKS AND PEOPLE
% DON'T THINK THAT DOMESTIC ABUSER
% SHOULD GET A HANDGUN.
% AND NEITHER DO, AND
% UNFORTUNATELY SENATOR JOHNSON
% DOESN'T AGREE.
% AND THE SENATOR DID MENTION
% POLICE OFFICERS AND WITH THAT
% SAID, I'M SURE THAT HE DIDN'T
% HAVE THE SAME INTERACTION WITH
% THE OFFICERS IN THE INSURRECTION
% AND ONE OFFICER STABBED WITH A
% STAKE AND ONE HIT IN THE HEAD.
% AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE 140
% OFFICERS THAT HE LEFT BEHIND
% BECAUSE OF INSURRECTION THAT HE
% SUPPORTED.%AND WITH THAT SAID
, SO MUCH MORE
% TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE HANDS OF
% VIOLENT CRIMINALS.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR FOR
% SPECIFICS, THE QUESTION ABOUT
% BACKGROUND CHECKS.
% >> ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT BACKGROUND
% CHECKS AND DID AS LEGISLATOR AND
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, WE NEED
% SENATORS THAT SUPPORT BACKGROUND
% CHECKS AND SENATOR JOHNSON
% RECEIVED 1.2 MILLION FROM THE
% GUN LOBBY AND WHY HE WILL EXCUSE
% THIS AND REFUSES TO KEEP US SAFE
% --
% >> AT TIME, THANK YOU.
% >> MOVE ON NOW, TAKE ANOTHER
% QUESTION, THIS ONE IS FROM KIM
% MURPHY.
% WHO CAN'T BE US TONIGHT BECAUSE
% OF COVID PROTOCOLS AND ASKED BY
% DALE RYMAN.
% >> THANK YOU JILL, I WANT TO
% TALK ABOUT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE
% REFORM.
% AFTER THE JANUARY 6 ASSAULTS ON
% THE CAPITOL, THE EFFORT TO
% PRESENTED A FALSE SLATE OF
% CANDIDATES AND OPPOSED THE E
% ELECTORAL ACT AND FOR ELECTORS
% AND AFFIRMING THE ROLE OF THE
% VICE PRESIDENT.
% RAISING THE OBJECTION THRESHOLD
% AND PROTECTING EACH STATES'
% POPULAR VOTE.
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, DO YOU
% SUPPORT THIS BILL?
% >> WE ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED ON
% JANUARY 6 AND WE SAW EVERY
% CONSPIRACY PEDAL AND THE SENATOR
% TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE VICE
% PRESIDENT.%AND INVOLVED IN MA
TTER OF
% SECONDS AND ENDED UP WITH A
% WHOLE DAY ASSAULT ON THE
% CAPITOL.
% THREATENED TO HANG THE VICE
% PRESIDENT.%WE HAVE TO DO AS M
UCH TO PROTECT
% THE DEMOCRACY, AND THE FIRST
% PLAN THAT MY PLAN SENT OUT
% DEMOCRACY AND ACCOUNT AGENDA.
% AND THE SENATOR DOESN'T LIKE THE
% DEMOCRACY BECAUSE DOESN'T WORK
% OUT FOR HIM.
% AND WE CAN PREVENT SOMETHING
% FROM THIS HAPPENING AGAIN AND
% RESTORE TRUST INTO OUR ELECTORAL
% PROCESS.
% PEOPLE DON'T TRUST THE PROCESS
% BECAUSE FOLKS ELECTED HIGH
% OFFICE TO CAST DOUBT IN FREE
% ELECTION.
% AND OBSERVERS SAY IT WAS THE
% MOST SECURE IN OUR LIFETIME.
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> I WOULD SUPPORT THAT PIECE OF
% LEGISLATION.
% I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHEN
% I GOT BACK TO MY OFFICE ON
% JANUARY 6.
% I WAS NOT IMPACTED BY WHAT WAS
% HAPPENING ON THE CAPITOL.
% UNTIL I TURNED ON THE TV AND I
% IMMEDIATELY AND FORCEFULLY AND
% REPEATEDLY CONDEMNED IT, AND
% CONDEMNED IT STRONGLY.
% AND I CONDEMNED THE 570 RIOTS
% DURING THE SUMMER.
% SO MANY PEOPLE IGNORE THOSE.
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNORS HAVE MADE
% EXCUSES FOR THOSE RIOTERS, WHAT
% DO YOU EXPECT, FRUSTRATED.
% TALK ABOUT RIOTING IN KENOSHA
% AND THE FIRST NIGHT INSTEAD OF
% CALMING THINGS DOWN AND
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR GAVE A PRESS
% CONFERENCE AND FELT LIKE A
% VENDETTA ON A COMMUNITY MEMBER.
% INCITEDED THE RIOT, AND DIDN'T
% PROVIDE THE MANPOWER TO STOP.
% AND IF YOU FOCUS ON A RIOT AND
% 570 RIOTS --
% >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP.
% >> DALE, YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP.
% >> YES, LAST MONTH I HAD A
% CHANCE TO INTERVIEW FORMER VICE
% PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE WHEN
% VISITING WAUSAU.
% REFERRING TO HIS ACTIONS ON
% JANUARY 6, WHEN RESISTED
% PRESSURE FROM FORMER PRESIDENT
% TRUMP TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION
% AND REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE STEPS
% OF SLATE ELECTORS INCLUDING SOME
% OFFERED BY SENATOR JOHNSON
% OFFICE.%AND SAID THAT HE ACT
ED OUT OF
% RESPECT FOR THE U.S.
% CONSTITUTION.%WE WOULD LIKE
YOU BOTH TO GO ON
% THE RECORD, DID THE FORMER VICE
% PRESIDENT DO THE RIGHT THING?
% SENATOR JOHNSON, YOU CAN GO
% FIRST.
% >> FIRST OF ALL, LET ME CLEAR
% THINGS UP HERE.
% I HAD NO IDEA WHEN CALLED FROM A
% LAWYER FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE
% UNITED STATES TO DELIVER
% SOMETHING TO THE VICE PRESIDENT
% TO HELP OUT.
% I HAD NO IDEA WHAT IT WAS.
% AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER WAS
% NOTHING DELIVERED.
% THE WHOLE EPISODE TOOK LESS THAN
% AN HOUR AND I WASN'T INVOLVED.
% I HAD NO KNOWLEDGE OF ALTERNATE
% SLATE OF ELECTORS.
% I VOTED TO CONFIRM, NOT TO
% DISALLOW ANY OF PRESIDENT BIDEN
% E
% EOR -- ELECTORS.
% FROM MY STANDPOINT IT'S A
% NONISSUE AND FOR THE 570 RIOTS
% AND 2,000 OFFICERS INJURED IN
% THE RIOTS AND A COUPLE LOST
% THEIR LIVES INCLUDING TWO IN
% KENOSHA.
% AND 1.2 BILLION OF PROPERTY
% DAMAGE AND FOCUS ON THE 570
% RIOTS AS WELL.
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON, TIME IS UP,
% THE QUESTION DID MIKE PENCE DO
% THE RIGHT THING ON JANUARY 6?
% >> YES, PRESIDENT BIDEN IS THE
% PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
% >> I WILL SAY TO PUSH BACK THAT
% THE REPUBLICAN SHERIFF OF
% KENOSHA.
% SAID THAT THE GOVERNOR ANSWERED
% EVERY CALL AND GAVE ALL THE
% RESOURCES THAT THEY REQUESTED.
% CLEAR THAT UP.
% AND MAY NOT HAVE NOTICED THAT AN
% INSURRECTION HAPPENED BECAUSE HE
% CALLED THOSE PEOPLE PATRIOTS AND
% TOU
% TOURISTS.%THIS IS AN ACT THA
T HE SUPPORTED
% AND CAN MAKE WHATEVER COM
% COMPARISONS HE WANTS TO AND
% REALITY THIS IS AN OVERTURN OF
% THE GOVERNMENT.
% AND THE ANSWER IS THAT THE VICE
% PRESIDENT DID DO THE RIGHT
% THING.
% >> NEXT QUESTION TO BRAD
% WILLIAMS.%>> TURN TO THE ISS
UE OF SAFE
% WATER FROM RACINE TO WAUSAU AND
% RHINELANDER.%AND PEOPLE ARE C
ONCERNED ABOUT
% THE SAFETY OF DRINKING WATER
% WITH ISSUES LINKED TO CANCER AND
% INFERTILITY.%FOR EXAMPLE, HUN
DREDS OF
% FAMILIES ON FRENCH ISLAND IN LA
% CROSSE AREA ARE PROVIDED WITH
% CLEAN WATER.
% AND THE COST IS SHIFTING TO
% FAMILIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
% WHAT SHOULD CONGRESS DO TO
% PROVIDE RELIEF TO FAMILIES
% AFFECTED BY THIS POLLUTION.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CLEAN
% WATER, SAFE DRINKING WATER IS AN
% ISSUE IN SO MANY PARTS OF THE
% STATE.
% IT'S ONE OF THE UNFORTUNATE
% REALITIES THAT BRINGS PEOPLE
% TOGETHER.
% THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE ALL
% SHOULD COME TO RESPECT IN THE
% MOST CIVILIZEED AND THE MOST
% WEALTHY NATION ON THE ENTIRE
% PLANET.%AND IT'S NOT THE REA
LITY AND
% THIS IS A FRESH WATER STATE,
% LAKE MICHIGAN TO THE EAST AND
% MISSISSIPPI RIVER TO THE WEST.
% AND I HAVE SPENT MY TIME WORKING
% ON WATER ISSUES AND 2019 THE
% GOVERNOR DECLARED THIS THE YEAR
% OF CLEAN DRINKING WATER.
% WE ISSUED GRANTS AND WE NEED
% HELP FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
% AND TALK ABOUT LEAD LATERAL
% LINES ACROSS WISCONSIN AS WELL.
% AND THE BIPARTISAN
% INFRASTRUCTURE LAW WENT TO GO
% FUND.%AND THIS IS ANOTHER IN
STANCE
% THAT THE SENATOR VOTED AGAINST
% THE -- HE VOTED AGAINST OUR
% HEALTH AND SAFETY OF
% CONTAMINATION.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR MORE
% SPECIFICALLY WHAT NEEDS TO BE
% DONE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL?
% >> THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A
% RESPONSIBILITY TO FUND THE
% INITIATIVES TO MAKE SURE THAT
% EVERY COMMUNITY HAS ACCESS TO
% CLEAN AND SAFE DRINKING WATER.
% AND ALSO WE HAVE A
% RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT
% POLLUTERS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
% >> I SUPPORT THAT THE EPA,
% RATHER THAN FOCUS ON C02.
% AND FOCUS ON THE POLLUTANTS THAT
% ARE HARMFUL.
% AND FOR EXAMPLE, RATHER THAN
% $369 BILLION THAT IS SPENT OR
% ALLOCATED BASED ON THE INFLATION
% REDUCTION ACT THAT IS A
% WELL-NAMED BILL THAT WON'T
% REDUCE INFLATION BUT FURTHER
% ENHANCE IT.
% WE SHOULD TAKE A PORTION OF THAT
% AND ALLOCATE TOWARDS ADDRESSING
% REAL POLLUTION WHICH PFAS IS.
% >> NEXT QUESTION.
% >> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT
% THE RESPECT FOR MARRIAGE ACT.
% WHEN ROE V. WADE WAS OVERTURNED
% JUSTICE THOMAS REFERRED TO GAY
% MARRIAGE AND INTERRACIAL
% MARRIAGE HAS THE POTENTIAL TO BE
% EVERY TURNED.
% AND SENATOR BALDWIN AND COLLINS
% HAVE PROPOSED BIPARTISAN
% LEGISLATION CALLED THE RESPECT
% OF MARRIAGE ACT THAT MAKES IT
% THE LAW OF THE LAND AND PROTECTS
% IT FROM BEING OVER TURNED.
% HOW WOULD YOU VOTE?
% >> FIRST OF ALL I HAVE SUPPORTED
% CIVIL UNIONS AND WHEN THE
% SUPREME COURT RULED FOR GAY
% MARRIAGE.
% I THOUGHT THERE IS AN ISSUE,
% IT'S SETTLED AND MOVE ON.
% WE HAVE OTHER PROBLEMS TO DEAL
% WITH.
% THAT SUPREME COURT DECISION WILL
% NEVER BE OVERTURNED.
% ANOTHER SCARE TACTIC BY THE
% LEVEL AND JUSTICE THOMAS OPENED
% THE DOOR AND THERE IS ANOTHER
% ELEMENT TO THIS THING.
% THE WAY THAT THE LAW IS WRITTEN
% RIGHT NOW IT THREATENS RELIGIOUS
% LIBERTY.%BEFORE I WOULD CONSI
DER VOTING
% FOR THAT BILL, I WANT TO SEE
% VERY STRONG PROTECTIONS FOR
% RELIGIOUS LIBERTY. %WE SEE W
HAT HAPPENED AFTER THE
% FAILED DECISION, YOU HAD PEOPLE
% STARTING TO SUE, FOR EXAMPLE,
% BAKERS.
% WENT BACK TO THE SUPREME COURT
% BUT BACK TO HARASSING THAT GUY
% AND STRONG PROTECTIONS.
% >> WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CIVIL
% RIGHT, THE RIGHT FOR A PERSON TO
% MARRY WHO THEY LOVE.
% NORMALLY THIS IS A NO-BRAINER.
% AND SOMETHING THAT I SUPPORTED
% AS A MEMBER OF THE LEGISLATURE
% AND SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE
% PROUD TO SUPPORT AS MEMBER OF
% THE U.S. SENATE.
% AND HE SAID THAT WOULDN'T BE
% OVERTURNED AND THOUGHT THAT ROE
% V. WADE, WE NEED PEOPLE WHO WILL
% FIGHT FOR OUR FUNDAMENTAL
% FREEDOMS.
% TO MARRY WHO YOU LOVE, AGAIN
% THAT SHOULD BE A NO-BRAINER.
% AND A SHAME THAT WE ARE IN THIS
% PLACE HAVING THIS SAME TIRED
% ARGUMENT.
% BUT HERE WE ARE AND LOVE WHO YOU
% LOVE AND MAKE YOUR OWN HEALTH
% CARE DECISIONS WITHOUT
% INTERFERENCE OF POLITICIANS.
% >> NEXT QUESTION IS COMING FROM
% KIM MURPHY.
% BUT GOING TO BE ADDRESSED BY
% MARK LELAND.
% >> THANK YOU, KIM'S QUESTION ON
% CLIMATE CHANGE.
% THE DEATH TOLL FROM HURRICANE
% IAN IS AT LEAST 120 PEOPLE NOW.
% THE STORM MADE LANDFALL AS A
% DEVASTATING CATEGORY 4.
% SCIENTISTS SAY THAT THE HISTORIC
% STORM WAS FUELED BY WARM WATERS
% AND THOSE WARM WATERS ARE A
% DIRECT EFFECT ON CLIMATE CHANGE.
% WHAT IS THREE SPECIFIC SOLUTIONS
% THAT YOU BELIEVE IN ADDRESSING
% CLIMATE CHANGE, LIEUTENANT
% GOVERNOR BARNES.
% >> THE CLIMATE CRISIS IS ALREADY
% HERE AND IMPACTING PLACES ALL
% OVER THE COUNTRY AND GLOBE.
% AND WISCONSIN SPECIFICALLY.
% I HAD A CHANCE TO VISIT OUR
% FAMILY FARMERS TO DEAL WITH THE
% IMPACTS OF DEVASTATIONS FROM THE
% 500-YEAR STORMS HAPPENING.
% AND HISTORIC FLOODING EVENTS
% THAT ARE WIPING OUT RURAL
% INFRASTRUCTURE AND IMPACT ON
% CITIES WITH URBAN HEAT ISLANDS.
% THE SENATOR SAID THAT CO2 IS NOT
% HARMFUL AND GONE SO FAR TO CALL
% CLIMATE CHANGE BS.
% THIS IS OUR FUTURE THAT WE ARE
% TALKING ABOUT.
% WE NEED TO REDUCE IS CARBON
% EMISSIONS AND MOVE TO A CLEAN
% ENERGY ECONOMY AND MAKE SURE
% THAT WISCONSIN IS IN THE DRIVER
% SEAT.
% AND SOLAR PANELS BUILT IN JAPAN
% SHOULD BE BUILT HERE.
% AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT OUR
% FAMILY FARMERS SO THAT THE
% INDUSTRY CONTINUE TO THRIVE.
% >> THE CLIMATE HAS ALWAYS
% CHANGED AND DON'T DENY.
% AND CAN YOU DO ANYTHING ABOUT
% IT?
% AND CHINA AND INDIA BURN FOSSIL
% FUELS AND AMERICA WITH AND 80%
% COMES FROM FOSSIL FUELS BECAUSE
% WIND AND SOLAR ARE UNRELIABLE.
% AND YOU ARE PAYING AT THE PUMP
% BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATS AND FOSSIL
% FUELS.
% THIS GREEN ENERGY TO GO TO
% ELECTRIC VEHICLES AND WE DON'T
% HAVE THE RARE EARTH RESOURCES.
% A LOT OF PROBLEMS HERE.
% WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON HOW WE USE
% FOSSIL FUELS RESPO S RESPONSIBL.
% >> YOU BOTH HAVE BEEN EFFICIENT
% IN YOUR RESPONSES THAT WE ARE
% ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH ONE-MINUTE
% ANSWERS AND CONTINUE ON THAT
% PATH FOR A WHILE WITHOUT CUTTING
% TO 30.
% TO AJ.
% >> THE WHITE HOUSE'S STUDENT
% LOAN DEBT FORGIVENESS PLAN IS
% WIDELY SUPPORTED BY YOUNG
% AMERICANS.
% HOWEVER MANY OTHER VOTERS
% BELIEVE IT'S UNFAIR.
% DO YOU THINK IT'S FAIR OR NOT TO
% FORGIVE UP TO $20,000 IN STUDENT
% LOAN DEBT?
% ONE MINUTE.
% SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> I THINK IT'S GROSSLY UNFAIR.
% I THINK THAT PEOPLE WHO NEVER
% WENT TO COLLEGE AND THOSE THAT
% SCRIMPED AND SAVED TO PAY OFF
% THEIR STUDENT LOAN.
% ARE NOT HAPPY THAT PEOPLE THAT
% VOLUNTARILY ENTER INTO A LOAN
% AGREEMENT.
% IT'S NOT FORGIVEN, TRANSFERRED
% ON THE BACK OF OTHER AMERICANS.
% BY THE WAY, SINCE THE FEDERAL
% GOVERNMENT TOOK OVER THE STUDENT
% LOAN PROGRAM THOSE STUDENT LOANS
% HAVE EXPLODED AS THE COST OF
% COLLEGE.%SINCE THE 1960s WHEN
WE STARTED
% KEEPING TRACK OF THIS, COST OF
% COLLEGE 2.7% OF INFLATION,
% LARGELY BECAUSE WE ARE THROWING
% SO MUCH MONEY INTO IT.
% AND WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT WHAT
% COLLEGE SPENDS MONEY?
% AND FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
% FUELED THAT AND THIS IS
% GROTESQUELY UNFAIR FOR PEOPLE
% THAT NEVER WENT TO COLLEGE OR
% PAID OFF STUDENT LOANS.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> I HAVE A FAMILY MEMBER,
% DENNIS, HOPE HE DOESN'T MIND
% SEEING HIS NAME AND DIDN'T SEE
% FOUR YEAR COLLEGE AS PATH AND
% WENT TO THE TRADES AND
% ELECTRICIAN AND MAKING A GREAT
% LIVING.%AND IMPORTANT TO THI
NK ABOUT THE
% OTHER PATHS THAT PEOPLE CHOOSE
% AND THE DEEPER PROBLEM COLLEGE
% IS UNAFFORDABLE AND COSTS
% CONTINUE TO RISE.
% AND GO BACK TO THE OLDER
% QUESTION MINIMUM WAGE AND PEOPLE
% THAT MAKE MINIMUM WAGE TO
% SUPPORT THEIR TIME IN COLLEGE.
% OF COURSE WE SHOULD FORGIVE SOME
% STUDENT LOAN DEBT BUT MAKE IT
% EASIER FOR PEOPLE IN VOCATIONAL
% EDUCATION AND TECHNICAL
% EDUCATION.
% SO THEY CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
% TO GET AHEAD AND WE CAN REBUILD
% THE MIDDLE CLASS.
% NOW SENATOR JOHNSON HAS BEEN
% AGAINST EVERY FORM OF GOVERNMENT
% SUPPORT FOR COLLEGE.
% AND IF YOU HAVE A FEDERAL
% STUDENT LOAN, SENATOR JOHNSON
% DOESN'T WANT YOU TO HAVE IT.
% >> SPECIFICALLY THE QUESTION IS
% IT FAIR?
% >> PEOPLE ARE SADDLED WITH
% STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND CANNOT
% PARTICIPATE IN THE ECONOMY.
% MY GENERATION IS SLATED TO BE
% WORSE OFF THAN THE ONE BEFORE IT
% AND THAT'S A TRAGEDY.
% ABSOLUTELY IT'S FAIR THAT PEOPLE
% GET STUDENT LOAN RELIEF.
% >> MARK LELAND.
% >> ONE OF THE WHITE HOUSE'S
% STATED REASONS FOR ADOPTING
% STUDENT LOAN FORGIVENESS THAT IT
% WOULD NARROW THE RACIAL WEALTH
% GAP.
% JUST YESTERDAY A FEDERAL JUDGE
% IN GREEN BAY ADDRESSED A LAWSUIT
% THAT THERE IS A RACIAL MOTIVE.
% AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL WHETHER
% WITH STUDENT LOANS OR ANYTHING
% ELSE, WHAT IF ANY SHOULD
% CONGRESS DO TO ADDRESS THE
% RACIAL WEALTH GAP.
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BARNES.
% >> ABSOLUTELY AND AS I MENTIONED
% MY GRANDDAD MOVED HERE AFTER
% WORLD WAR II AND GOT A JOB AS A
% UNION STEEL WORKER.
% AND WHEN THAT DRIED UP AND
% NOTHING BUT RISES IN CRIME AND
% RISES IN CARCERATION.
% AND SO MANY OTHER DEVASTATING
% RESULTS BECAUSE OF OFF SHORE A
% PRACTICE SUPPORTED BY SENATOR
% JOHNSON.%SAYING THAT OFF SHOR
ING MAKES
% SENSE AND IGNORING THE TOLL ON
% THE COMMUNITIES LIKE HERE IN
% CITY OF MILWAUKEE.
% AND WE NEED TO DO MORE THAT GOOD
% PAYING JOBS AND LOW-FUNDED
% SCHOOLS ARE FULLY FUNDED AND
% MORE TO BE SURE THAT EVERY
% PERSON HAS HEALTH CARE TO CLOSE
% THE GAPS ALONG RACIAL LINES.
% >> I AM TOLD BY THE OFFICIAL
% TIME KEEPERS MOVE TO 30 --
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON.%>> I THI
NK YOU ARE AWARE OF THE
% PROJECT WHERE I TEAMED UP WITH A
% CHURCH IN THE INNER CITY OF
% MILWAUKEE IN FOUR DAYS OF
% TRAINING AND INSTILL THE QUALITY
% OF GOOD ATTITUDE AND SUCCESS.
% AND THIS IS WITH FORMALLY
% INCARCERATED AND TRANSFORM THEIR
% LIVES.%HUNDREDS AND THOUSAND
OF PEOPLE
% IMPACTED BY THAT.
% THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT.
% YOU DON'T SPEND TRILLIONS OF
% DOLLARS WE DON'T HAVE AND
% SPARKING 40-YEAR HIGH INFLATION.
% THAT IS TAKING THE DOLLAR THAT
% YOU HAD AT THE START OF BIDEN
% ADMINISTRATION TURNED INTO 88.3
% CENTS AND THAT HELPS NO ONE AND
% NOT THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
% >> YOU HAVE ONE MORE MINUTE.
% >> AND WE SHOULD NOT LET LOOSE
% 88,000 IRS AGENTS ON FAMILIES.
% >> NOW MOVE TO -- MARK LELAND
% --- SORRY, BRAD WILLIAMS.
% >> TURNING TO THE SUPREME COURT,
% FOLLOWING RECENT RULINGS SURVEYS
% SHOWING PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN THE
% SUPREME COURT IS AT LOWEST
% LEVELS IN YEARS.
% CRITICS HAVE SUGGESTED CHANGES
% REPLACING LIFE-TERM LIMITS WITH
% TERM LIMITS OR EXPANDING BEYOND
% NINE JUSTICES.
% WOULD YOU SUPPORT ANY OR ALL OF
% THESE IDEAS FOR COURT REFORM AND
% WHY?
% SENATOR JOHNSON.
% >> THE REASON THAT PEOPLE BE
% COMPLAINING BECAUSE THEY ARE
% LEFTISTS THEMSELVES.
% THEY ARE BIASED MEDIA.
% THEY DON'T LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A
% SUPREME COURT THAT HAS
% CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES THAT JUST
% APPLY THE LAW RATHER THAN TRY TO
% ALTER IT.
% I AM OPPOSED TO JUDICIAL
% ACTIVISTS AND THAT'S WHAT THE
% PRESS LIKES IS AN ACTIVIST
% COURT.
% AND BY THE WAY, I VOTED FOR
% CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES AND APPLY
% THE LAW AND NOT ALTER IT.
% >> ONE OF THE MOST PROVISIONS IN
% THE AGENDA PLAN WAS TO IMPOSE
% ETHIC STANDARDS ON THE SUPREME
% COURT.
% OUR JUSTICES SHOULD ABIDE BY THE
% SAME STANDARDS AS EVERY COURT IN
% THE COUNTRY.
% AND I SUPPORT TERM LIMITS FOR
% THE JUSTICES, NOT LIFE-TIME
% APPOINTMENTS.%>> TO AJ.
% >> THERE WAS A NEW DEVELOPMENT
% THIS WEEK POTENTIALLY INVOLVING
% GAS PRICES.
% DESPITE PRESIDENT BIDEN ATTEMPT
% TO PERSUADE OPEC TO DO OTHERWISE
% AND DECIDED TO CUT OIL
% PRODUCTION.
% A MOVE THAT WILL CAUSE GAS
% PRICES TO RESPOND, AND HOW
% SHOULD CONGRESS RESPOND.
% >> THE PROBLEM IS OUR RELIANCE
% ON FOSSIL FUELS IN THE FIRST
% PLACE AND MORE ENERGY RENEWAL IN
% THIS COUNTRY AND IN WISCONSIN.
% AND THE SENATOR WILL SAY THAT
% THE PATH IS FOR FOSSIL FUELS AND
% EVERY EXCUSE FOR INDUSTRY.
% AND HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE FOR
% USING AS A SMOKE SCREEN AND
% JACKING UP THE PRICES FOR THE
% AMERICAN PEOPLE.
% AND THE SENATOR HAS RECEIVED
% HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS FOR THE
% CAMPAIGN AND PUT THEM IN THE
% POCKET BOOK.
% >> IF YOU WANT TO HAVE LOWER GAS
% PRICES YOU NEED TO BE ENERGY
% DE
% DEPENDENT.
% AND CLIMATE CHANGE SUPPORT
% NUCLEAR POWER.
% AND THERE IS A SOLUTION AND
% ENVIRONMENTALISTS LIKE
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BARNES WON'T
% EMBRACE THE REAL SOLUTION.
% >> DALE RYMAN.
% >> IT'S SAID THAT BROADBAND IS
% NOT A LUXURY BUT IT'S A
% NECESSITY FOR EVERYDAY LIVING.
% THE PANDEMIC SHOWED US HOW
% IMPORTANT BROAD BAND IS.
% AND WISCONSIN RANKS 33 IN THE
% COUNTRY OF BROADBAND RANKINGS OF
% COVERAGE AND SPEED AND
% AVAILABILITY.%HOW WILL YOU A
DVOCATE FOR
% WISCONSINITES ON CAPITOL HILL TO
% CLOSE THAT DIGITAL DIVIDE.
% >> I SUPPORTED THE CONNECT
% AMERICAN FUND THAT ALLOCATED
% HUNDREDS OF MILLION OF DOLLARS
% AND BROADBAND MAPPING TO EXPAND
% BROADBAND IN WISCONSIN.
% I AM AWARE OF THE CRUCIAL NEED
% FOR BROADBAND AND I SUPPORTED IT
% AND GOT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
% WISCONSIN AS A RESULT.
% >> AND SPECIFICALLY TOWARDS THE
% FUTURE, CONTINUE?
% >> PRECISELY.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> OUR ADMINISTRATION HAS HAD
% HISTORIC FUNDING FOR BROAD BROAD
% AND WE HAVE HEARD STORIES OF
% STUDENTS GOING TO A FAST-FOOD
% RESTAURANT FOR Wi-Fi.
% AND I HEARD OF PEOPLE GOING TO A
% FUNERAL HOME BECAUSE THE BEST
% Wi-Fi.
% ONE OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO
% EXPRESS BROADBAND IS BIPARTISAN
% BILL AND ONE THAT SENATOR
% JOHNSON VOTED AGAINST.
% >> WE ARE AT OUR LAST QUESTION
% AND PROMISED TO GIVE A CHANCE
% FOR MISCONCEPTIONS.
% >> GENTLEMEN, DURING THIS DEBATE
% OR CAMPAIGN ADS, YOU HEARD
% THINGS SAID ABOUT YOU THAT YOU
% BELIEVE ARE WRONG, AND GIVE YOU
% THE FLOOR TO SET IT STRAIGHT.
% WHAT IS SAID ABOUT YOU TO KNOCK
% DOWN.%>> I AM PROUD OF MY RE
CORD AS
% U.S. SENATOR.
% ONE OF THE MORE GROTESQUE
% DISTORTIONS AND IN ADDITION TO
% THE FACT THAT I WANT TO SAVE
% SOCIAL SECURITY.
% THAT I GOT A TAX CUT FOR MYSELF
% AND SUPPORTERS.
% NO, IT WAS BECAUSE THE AMERICAN
% CITIZENS GOT A TAX CUT TO
% COMPETE WITH THE BIG GUYS.
% THAT WAS 20 MILLION TAX FILERS
% AND PROUD OF THE RECORD IN TAX
% REFORM.%AND ALLOWING THE PEO
PLE TO
% COMPETE WITH THE BIG C-CORPS AND
% SURVIVE PANDEMIC.
% AND RIGHT OF TRIAL AND SAVING
% PEOPLE'S LIVES AND TRANSFORMING
% LIVES.
% AND MY BACKGROUND AND EXPERIENCE
% 40 YEARS IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR
% AND I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR HAS DONE IN
% THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
% I KNOW THAT HIS MOM IS A TEACHER
% AND WORKED THIRD SHIFT.
% I WORKED THIRD SHIFT AND I KNOW
% WHAT IT'S LIKE TO CREATE JOBS, I
% CREATED THEM AND DON'T BELIEVE
% HE HAS.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> I EMBRACE ONE OF THE
% CHARACTERIZATIONS AND ONE OF THE
% ADS THAT THEY PUT OUT SENATOR
% JOHNSON OR ALLY.
% AND SAYS THAT MANDELA BARNES IS
% DIFFERENT AND I EMBRACE THAT.
% AND SENATOR JOHNSON IS OF A
% BROKEN SYSTEM A PERSON THAT FOR
% HIMSELF AND IF YOU ARE A
% MULTIMILLIONAIRE HE WILL WORK
% OUT YOU BUT NOT THE CITIZENS.
% AND PEOPLE ARE LEFT BEHIND WHY I
% AM RUNNING.
% OUR LIVELIHOODS ARE ON THE LINE
% AT THIS MOMENT.
% OUR SENIORS HAVE TO LIVE WITH
% THE THREAT OF SOCIAL SECURITY
% AND MEDICARE CUT.
% AND WORKING PEOPLE HAVE TO LIVE
% UNDER THE THREAT OF JOBS SHIPPED
% OVERSEAS.%AND WOMEN HAVE TO
LIVE WITH THE
% THREAT OF THEIR MOST PERSONAL
% DECISIONS INTERRUPTED BY
% POLITICIANS.
% THAT'S WHAT IS ON THE LINE NOW.
% AND I BELIEVE THAT BETTER IS
% POSSIBLE AND HARD WORK PAY OFF
% AND GIVE EVERYONE A SHOT AT THE
% AMERICAN DREAM.
% WITH THAT, WE THANK OUR
% CANDIDATES, OUR QUESTION TEAM
% AND OUR DATA TEAM.
% THANKING ALL THE TEAMS AND OUR
% DATA TEAM, THAT IS WORKING
% BEHIND THE SCENES TO GIVE YOU
% INFORMATION TO READ MORE ABOUT
% IT ON THE WBA'S
% DEBATE WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA %
ACCOUNTS WITH THE HASHTAG
% #WBADEBATE.
% AND THAT DATA TEAM BY THE WAY IS
% EMILY DAVIES AND SCOTTIE LEE
% MYERS AND MICHELE BUCK.
% AND ALL OF THOSE AND THANK
% MILWAUKEE FOR HOSTING US
% AND NOW, WBA PRESIDENT AND CEO
% MICHELLE VETTERKIND.
% >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR
% TONIGHT'S DEBATE, AN OPPORTUNITY
% FOR WISCONSIN CITIZENS TO HEAR
% FROM THE LEADING U.S. SENATE
% CANDIDATES.
% THIS DEBATE IS SPONSORED BY THE
% FOUNDATION AND COLLEGE AND
% UNIVERSITIES AND THE WISCONSIN
% COLLEGE ASSOCIATION.
% OUR SINCERE THANKS TO THE
% WISCONSIN TV AND RADIO STATIONS
% TO AIR THIS BROADCAST.
% TO THE CANDIDATES.
% OUR MODERATOR AND OUR PANELISTS
% AND OUR DATA TEAM.
% AS ALWAYS WBA MEMBER STATIONS
% WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BRING
% ELECTION RESULTS.
% ELECTION DAY IS TUESDAY,
% NOVEMBER 8, EXERCISE YOUR RIGHT
% AS A CITIZEN AND VOTE.