>> LIVE FROM THE W-I-S-C THREE
STUDIOS IN MADISON, THE
WISCONSIN BROADCASTERS
ASSOCIATION PRESENTS THE 2022
GUBERNATORIAL DEBATE WITH
INCUMBENT DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR,
GOVERNOR, TONY EVERS AND
REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER, TIM
MICHELS. HERE IS W VA
PRESIDENT AND CEO, MICHELLE
BETTER KIND.
>> GOOD EVENING. THE WISCONSIN
BROADCASTERS ASSOCIATION AND
ITS MEMBER RADIO AND TELEVISION
STATIONS ARE PLEASED TO
WELCOME YOU TO THE DEBATE.
TONIGHT, AT THE STUDIOS OF WISC,
WISC TV, WE HAVE COMMUNITIES
LARGE AND SMALL ACROSS THE
STATE INVOLVED IN BRINGING THIS
THIS DEBATE TO YOU. TONIGHT'S
DEBATE CONTINUES THE WBA'S
LONG-STANDING COMMITMENT TO
EXCELLENCE AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
THE DEBATE IS UNDERWRITTEN BY
THE WA FOUNDATION AND SUPPORTED
SUPPORTED BY A GRANT FROM THE
WISCONSIN ASSOCIATION
INDEPENDENT COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES AND THE WISCONSIN
COUNTIES ASSOCIATION. NOW,
LET'S GO TO OUR MODERATORS, A
VETERAN BROADCASTER, MEMBER OF
THE WBA HALL OF FAME, AND
MEMBER OF LEADERSHIP AND
INTEGRITY AT CHICAGO, JILL
GEISLER.
>> GOOD EVENING. ON TUESDAY,
NOVEMBER 8th, WISCONSIN VOTERS
WILL CHOOSE BETWEEN 2
CANDIDATES FOR GOVERNOR,
INCUMBENT DEMOCRAT TONY EVERS
AND REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER TIM
MICHELS. THEY HAVE AGREED TO DO
DO JUST ONE DEBATE BEFORE THE
ELECTION. AND THIS IS IT. HERE
ARE THE RULES TO WHICH EVERYONE
EVERYONE HAS AGREED. WITH EACH
QUESTION FROM OUR STATEWIDE
PANEL OF JOURNALISTS,
CANDIDATES WILL BE TOLD THE
LENGTH OF TIME THEY HAVE FOR A
RESPONSE, EITHER ONE MINUTE OR
30 SECONDS. NOW, WE ALL SEE
COUNTDOWN CLOCKS. WHEN
CANDIDATES HIT THEIR TIME
LIMIT, I WILL LET THEM KNOW. IF
THEY CONTINUE, THEIR
MICROPHONE WILL CEASE TO WORK.
IF CANDIDATES FAIL TO ANSWER A
QUESTION OR CHANGE THE SUBJECT,
SUBJECT, I WILL EXERCISE THE
MODERATORS OPTION TO NOTE THAT,
THAT, GIVING THEM 30 SECONDS TO
TO PROVIDE A SPECIFIC ANSWER.
PLEASE NOTE, THIS DEBATE
PROVIDES AN ADDITIONAL SERVICE
FOR VOTERS. MANY COMPLEX ISSUES
ISSUES REQUIRE DEEPER CONTEXT
AND VERIFICATION ESPECIALLY
DURING DEBATES WHEN CLAIMS AND
COUNTERCLAIMS FLY OR WIN
STATISTICS AND SHORTHAND TERMS
ARE USED. WE BENEFIT FROM MORE
BACKGROUND. SO THE DATA TEAM
WILL PROVIDE YOU LINKS TO
ADDITIONAL RESEARCH MATERIAL
ABOUT OUR KEY TOPICS. JUST
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LET'S BEGIN WITH THE FIRST
QUESTION FROM DAN HAGAN. DAN?
>> I WANT TO ASK A QUESTION
ABOUT RISING PRICES. THIS
WINTER, WISCONSIN FAMILIES CAN
EXPECT TO PAY $100 MORE THAN
LAST WINTER TO HEAT THEIR
HOMES. AT THE SAME TIME, A
GALLON OF GAS COSTS SEVEN CENTS
CENTS MORE THAN LAST YEAR. IN
THE GROCERY STORE RECEIPT IS
LIKELY AROUND 10% HIGHER. HOW
WOULD YOU HELP THE PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN WHO ARE STRUGGLING
RIGHT NOW? GOVERNOR. YOU HAVE
ONE MINUTE.
>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE GREAT
GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU TO
THE BROADCASTERS FOR INVITING
ME OUT TODAY AND MAKING THIS
HAPPEN. OF COURSE, THANKS TO
THE VOTERS THAT ARE WATCHING
TONIGHT. I HAVE A PLAN AROUND
THIS. OBVIOUSLY, INFLATION IS
SOMETHING THAT IS A WORLDWIDE
PHENOMENON. IN THE IMPACT OF
THAT INFLATION IS ALSO SPREAD
ACROSS THE ENTIRE WORLD. THAT'S
THAT'S THAT. I HAVE A PLAN. I
HAVE BEEN HOPING THE
REPUBLICANS WOULD COME IN
SESSION. WE COULD DO SOMETHING
ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW. MY PLAN IS
THIS. TO MITIGATE AGAINST
INFLATION, WE ARE GOING TO
LOWER OUR TAXES ON MIDDLE CLASS
CLASS FOLKS IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN BY 10%. WE ARE GOING
TO GET RID OF THE MINIMUM
MARKUP LAW ON GASOLINE WHICH
COULD SAVE PEOPLE $.30 ON A
GALLON, AND ALSO TAX CREDIT
ISSUES. MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE
ONE THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT IS
THE ONE ABOUT CHILDCARE. A
CHILD CARE CREDIT. THAT WAY, WE
WE ARE GIVING PEOPLE MONEY.
THEY KEEP THE MONEY. AND WE CAN
CAN MITIGATE AGAINST INFLATION.
INFLATION.
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR. MR.
MICHELS, YOUR RESPONSE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HOSTING, WBA.
THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.
MOST IMPORTANT, THANK YOU ALL
FOR TURNING IN TONIGHT AND
TAKING PART IN THIS IMPORTANT
POLITICAL PROCESS. IT'S A BIG
ELECTION COMING UP IN A FEW
WEEKS AND THE FUTURE OF
WISCONSIN IS WHAT IS AT STAKE
HERE. WE HAVE HAD WEAK
LEADERSHIP UNDER THE
BARNES-TRAN33 EVERS . JOE BIDEN
BIDEN IS WEAK ON INFLATION.
CANCELING THE KEYSTONE
PIPELINE, WHAT DO WE DO? WE CAN
CAN PUT MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE'S
POCKETS. I AM A BUSINESSMAN. I
UNDERSTAND MACROECONOMICS. I
CAN UNDERSTAND HOW TO READ A
BALLOT SHEET. I CAN DO
EVERYTHING I CAN TO PUT MORE
MONEY IN PEOPLE'S POCKETS TO
HELP THEM WITH THE PRICE AT THE
THE PUMP AND THE SURGING PRICE
OF GROCERIES. WE WILL DO
MASSIVE TAX REFORM. WE WILL GET
GET MORE MONEY IN PEOPLE'S
POCKETS HERE IN WISCONSIN, AND
THE HARD-WORKING TAXPAYING
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN WILL SPEND
MORE OF THAT MONEY ON GOODS AND
AND SERVICES, HELPING MAKE OUR
ECONOMY HERE EVEN MORE ROBUST.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO
MICHELLE McCORMICK OF WFOR TV
IN GREEN BAY.
>> HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
SHARED REVENUE IN WISCONSIN.
WHEN IT COMES TO COLLECTING
TAXES, IT GOES UP. WHEN IT
COMES TO SHARING THAT MONEY
WITH MUNICIPALITIES FOR
CRITICAL SERVICES, IT REMAINS
STAGNANT. WHAT ACTION WILL YOU
INTAKE TO ENABLE GREEN DAY IN
CITIES ACROSS OUR STATE TO
MAINTAIN PUBLIC HEALTH AND
SAFETY IN THE LONG TERM? MR.
MICHELS, YOU HAVE A MINUTE.
>> YES. THE PROBLEM ACROSS THE
THE STATE ARE WIDESPREAD. THEY
ARE VAST. CRIME IS UP. SCHOOL
SCORES ARE DOWN. I THINK, MOST
IMPORTANTLY, THE BEST DECISIONS
DECISIONS ARE MADE AT THE LOCAL.
LOCAL LEVEL. PEOPLE IN COUNTY
GOVERNMENT, MUNICIPAL
GOVERNMENT, VILLAGE PRESIDENTS,
PRESIDENTS, THEY ARE CLOSE TO
THE PEOPLE. THEY HEAR THE
PROBLEMS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
THERE IS AMPLE FUNDING AT THE
LOCAL LEVEL TO SOLVE THE
PROBLEMS. THE BUREAUCRACIES IN N
IN WASHINGTON D.C. ARE VAST.
THE BUREAUCRACIES IN WISCONSIN
NEED PROPER LEADERSHIP. I WILL
MAKE SURE WE HAVE ADEQUATE
FUNDING FOR THE BIG PROBLEMS.
WE ARE GOING TO SPEND AS MUCH
MONEY AS ANY GOVERNOR HAS ON
EDUCATION. BUT WE WILL SPEND IT
IT WISELY. BECAUSE RIGHT NOW,
THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. WE ARE
GOING TO HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY
FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE
CRIME IS SURGING ALL ACROSS
WISCONSIN. EVERYWHERE I GO FROM
FROM SUPERIOR TO KENOSHA,
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT
CRIME. I WILL PROVIDE BOLD
LEADERSHIP. WE WILL GET CRIME
DOWN. WE WILL MAKE SURE LAW
ENFORCEMENT HAS THE FUNDS
NEEDED.
>> MR. MICHAELS, JUST
SPECIFICALLY, SHARED REVENUE
FORMULA, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR
VISION FOR THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S PLENTY OF
MONEY IN GOVERNMENT. THERE'S 43
43 1/2 BILLION DOLLARS SPENT
EVERY YEAR. THOSE OF THE
TAXPAYERS MONEY. I WILL SIT
DOWN WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND
THE SMART PEOPLE, MY LIEUTENANT
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR, ROGER, WE
WILL MAKE SURE WE COME UP WITH
THE RIGHT FORMULAS. WE ARE
GOING TO ADEQUATELY MAKE SURE
THERE IS FUNDING FOR THE ISSUES
ISSUES THAT THE PEOPLE IN
WISCONSIN ARE SO CONCERNED
ABOUT. AND THE TOP OF THE LIST
IS INFLATION. THEN IT'S CRIME,
THEN FOLLOWED BY EDUCATION. I
AM HERE TO TELL YOU HELP IS ON
THE WAY.
>> GOVERNOR EVERS, AGAIN,
SHARED REVENUE, FORMULAS, AND
WHAT COMMUNITIES COULD EXPECT.
>> I HEAR THAT FROM MY
OPPONENT. THAT SAID, SHARED
REVENUE IS A BIG DEAL. WHEN I
RAN FOR OFFICE THE FIRST TIME,
I TOLD MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS
THE STATE THAT WE WOULD
INCREASE SHARED REVENUE. I
TRIED TO DO IT IN MY FIRST
BUDGET. I TRIED TO DO IT IN MY
SECOND BUDGET. THERE WERE
THINGS TO DO. 2% AND 4%. IT WAS
WAS THERE WITHOUT. IF YOU LOOK
AT THE LAST 10 YEARS OF SHARED
REVENUE, THAT'S THE MONEY THAT
COMES INTO WISCONSIN FROM THE
GOVERNMENT. WE SEND IT BACK OUT
OUT TO MUNICIPALITIES. AND
EVERY YEAR, YOU SEE A ZERO, A0,
A0, A0, AS FAR AS THE MONEY
THAT IS PROVIDED TO
MUNICIPALITIES. NEXT TIME, IT
IS MY TOP PRIORITY. WE HAVE 4%
EACH YEAR. AND THAT HELPS THESE
THESE PEOPLE DO THE HARD WORK
WHETHER IT'S AROUND CRIME,
WHETHER IT'S AROUND SOCIAL
SERVICES, YOU NAME IT, THEY DO
THE HARD WORK. WE NEED TO HAVE
--
>> ALL RIGHT. WE MOVE ON NOW.
THE QUESTION COMES FROM DR. KEN
KEN HARRIS FROM WDK D RADIO.
>> GOVERNOR EVERS, THE
MILWAUKEE NEIGHBORHOOD NEWS
SERVICE SAYS THE MILWAUKEE
POLICE DEPARTMENT SEIZED 8076
GUNS FROM JANUARY 1st, 2020, TO
TO JULY 8th, 2022. NEARLY HALF
OF THOSE FIREARMS CAME FROM SEVL
FROM SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS WITH
WITH NORTHSIDE ZIP CODES. GIVEN
GIVEN THE ADAGE, SO GOES
MILWAUKEE, SO GOES THE STATE,
HOW WOULD YOU CURB THE PRESENCE
PRESENCE OF ILLEGAL FIREARMS IN
IN THE STATE?
>> THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS WE
HAVE TO DO. I WILL BE BACK TO
SHARED REVENUE. IN ORDER FOR
THOSE GREAT PEOPLE THAT WORK IN
IN THE CITY OF MILWAUKEE TO DO
THEIR WORK, THEY NEED THE
SUPPORT, FINANCIALLY, FROM THE
STATE. WHETHER IT'S ISSUES LIKE
LIKE TRAINING OR ANY OTHER
THINGS GOING ON IN THE CITY OF
WISCONSIN, THE CITY OF MADISON.
MADISON. THAT SAID, SHARED
REVENUE WILL BE INCREASED BY
THIS ADMINISTRATION. IN
ADDITION, I AM SOMEBODY WHO
ACTUALLY BELIEVES THAT WE HAVE
SOME REALLY THOUGHTFUL THINGS
WE CAN DO AROUND GUNS.
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE
ARE ONE. RED FLAG LAWS ARE
ANOTHER. TIME AND TIME AGAIN,
WHEN THE MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY
POLL TALKED ABOUT THIS AND
ASKED QUESTIONS, 70 OR 80% OF
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN SAID THESE
ARE REASONABLE THINGS WE CAN DO
DO TO PROVIDE SAFETY IN THAT
ARENA. SO LET'S DO THAT. LET'S
BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER. LET'S
HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. LET'S
MAKE SOME CHANGES IN WISCONSIN.
WISCONSIN.
>> MR. MICHAELS, YOUR RESPONSE
ABOUT THE ABUNDANCE OF GUNS.
>> YES.
>> YES. KEN HARRIS, THANK YOU
FOR THE QUESTION ON CRIME IN
MILWAUKEE. BUT ALL ACROSS THE
STATE, CRIME IS RUNNING
RAMPANT. AND GUNS, I HAVE A
SOLUTION FOR THAT. LET'S TALK
ABOUT CRIME IN MILWAUKEE. I
SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN THE
INNER-CITY IN MILWAUKEE. PEOPLE
PEOPLE TELL ME, TIM, WHY ARE
YOU SPENDING TIME NEAR THE
NORTH SIDE OF THE SOUTH SIDE OF
OF MILWAUKEE? I SAID, I WILL BE
BE A GOVERNOR FOR ALL.
MILWAUKEE IS NOT THE PROBLEM.
MILWAUKEE HAS A PROBLEM. I'M
GOING TO FIX IT. YOU'RE GOING
TO GET CRIME DOWN, AND WE WILL
GET EDUCATION SCORES UP TO
PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE NO
NO OPTION BUT TO BE ON THE
STREETS. GUNS ARE EVERYWHERE. I
I TELL YOU, I WAS UP IN WAUSAU
THIS WEEK AND I SPOKE WITH
OFFICIALS AT THE MARATHON
COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
THEY TOLD ME THAT THREE
QUARTERS, 75% OF RECENT
HOMICIDES WERE STABBINGS. THOSE
THOSE WEREN'T GUN VIOLENCE. IT
WAS NICE VIOLENCE. THE LEFT
ALWAYS WANTS TO TAKE AWAY GUNS D
GUNS AND THINK THAT'S THE
PROBLEM. I AM A RESPONSIBLE GUN
GUN OWNER. I WILL PROTECT YOUR
SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
>> THANK YOU. THERE'S A
FOLLOW-UP QUESTION FROM DR. KEN
KEN HARRIS.
>> 19 STATES AND RED FLAG LAWS.
LAWS. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND
CHECK PROPOSALS DID NOT MAKE
IT OUT OF LEGISLATIVE
COMMITTEE. WHAT IS YOUR STANCE
ON THE USE OF EXTREME RISK
PROTECTION ORDERS AND UNIVERSAL
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS?
>> THAT GOES PLAIN FOR PEOPLE
AT HOME, RED FLAG LAWS. HERE'S
A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE. A
DISGRUNTLED EX-COULD SAY, MY EX
EX WHO IS A HUNTER HAS WEAPONS
AT HOME AND I AM AFRAID OF
THAT. AND WITHOUT DUE PROCESS,
THOSE GUNS COULD BE
CONFISCATED. THAT'S
UNCONSTITUTIONAL, FIRST OF ALL,
ALL, AND IT'S ALSO A SLIPPERY S.
SLIPPERY SLOPE. WE NEED TO MAKE
MAKE SURE WE UPHOLD THE
CONSTITUTION AND THAT
LAW-ABIDING GUN OWNERS ARE NOT
HAVING THEIR GUNS CONFISCATED.
I WILL BE THERE FOR RESPONSE
WILL GUN OWNERS. WE ARE GOING
TO HAVE 600,000 DEER HUNTERS
HIT THE WOODS IN A FEW WEEKS. I
I WILL BE ONE OF THEM. I LOVE
DEER CAMP. BUT WITH MILLIONS OF
OF GUNS IN WISCONSIN, WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE RESPONSIBLE GUN
OWNERS ARE NOT GOING TO BECOME
SUBJECT TO HAVING THEIR GUNS
TAKEN AWAY WITHOUT DUE PROCESS
BECAUSE THEY HAVE RIGHTS, AND
OUR CONSTITUTION HERE IS AT
STAKE.
>> GOVERNOR EVERS, YOUR
RESPONSE ON RED FLAG LAWS AND
UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.
>> OF COURSE, I HAVE SUPPORTED
BOTH OF THOSE. THEY ARE
REASONABLE THINGS. MARQUETTE
UNIVERSITY POLL POLLED ON THIS
ISSUE MANY, MANY TIMES. IT'S
ALWAYS 70 TO 80%. NO. I HAVE TO
TO SAY, RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS
DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT RED
FLAG LAWS, BECAUSE IT WILL
NEVER BE AN ISSUE FOR THEM.
WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE SURE
SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE IN
DANGER OR WHO ARE MAKING THREATS
MAKING THREATS OR WHO ARE
THINKING ABOUT HURTING
THEMSELVES -- IT HAS DUE
PROCESS. IT HAS TO GO IN FRONT
OF A JUDGE. WE HAVE TO HAVE
LAW-ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE GO IN
FRONT OF A JUDGE AND MAKE THAT
REQUEST. THAT SAID, 70 TO 80%
OF THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN
SUPPORT THIS. WITH THAT, ALMOST
ALMOST ALL THE HUNTERS
SUPPORTED IT ALSO. THIS IS
SOMETHING WE CAN DO. IS IT
GOING TO SOLVE EVERY PROBLEM?
OF COURSE IT'S NOT. THERE IS NO
NO SOLUTION THAT WILL DO THAT.
BUT IT SEEMS REASONABLE. PEOPLE
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN WANT IT.
IT'S THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
IT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND.
>> WHAT ABOUT BACKGROUND
CHECKS?
>> I CERTAINLY BELIEVE THAT
BACKGROUND CHECKS SHOULD ALSO
BE THERE. UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND
CHECKS ARE JUST COMMON SENSE.
JUST COMMON SENSE.
>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WE GO
TO OUR NEXT QUESTIONER WHICH IS
VICTOR JACOBO FROM CDs 38 AND
AND TELEMUNDO WISCONSIN.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
ELECTION PROCESS. RECOUNTS AND
INVESTIGATIONS INTO THE 2020
ELECTIONS HAVE FOUND NO
EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD VOTER
FRAUD. DESPITE THAT EVIDENCE,
THERE ARE VOTERS IN WISCONSIN
TONIGHT WHO STILL BELIEVE THE
2020 ELECTION WAS RIGGED. AND
THERE ARE VOTERS WHO FEAR THAT
REACTION TO THAT BY STATE
OFFICIALS WILL RESULT IN RESTRIS
IN RESTRICTIONS THAT WILL TAKE
AWAY OR DISCOUNT THEIR VOTE.
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN TO REBUILD
VOTER CONFIDENCE IN THE STATES
ELECTION PROCESS? GOVERNOR, YOU
YOU GO FIRST WITH ONE MINUTE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THE LAST
ELECTION WAS SAFE, SECURE, AND
THERE WAS NOT FRAUD. I MEAN, ON
ON THIS HONEST TO GOD, WE HAVE
PEOPLE LIKE MY OPPONENT WHO
CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT MASSIVE
FRAUD WITHOUT HAVING ANY IDEA
OR HAVING ANY SPECIFICS. IT WASE
WAS SAFE, IT WAS FAIR, AND WE
CAN HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR
ELECTION. YOU KNOW, WHEN
SOMEBODY TALKS ABOUT ISSUES UP
LIKE THIS, THEY DON'T KNOW IF
THEY ARE GOING TO CERTIFY THE
PRESIDENT ELECTION.
CERTIFICATION IS SOMETHING THE
GOVERNOR DOES. THEY DO IT IN A
VERY SPECIFIC WAY. WHEN MY
OPPONENT SAID WELL, I'M NOT
SURE IF THE LEGISLATION SAYS
SOMETHING THAT BIDEN LOST AND
TRUMP WON, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M
GOING TO SIGN THAT, YOU HAVE
TO. THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
PROCESS. VOTING RIGHTS ARE ON
THIS BALLOT. IT IS RADICAL TO
SAY, I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS
WORKS OUT OR THAT FRAUD
HAPPENED WHEN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
HAPPEN.
>> TIME IS UP.
>> VICTOR, THANK YOU FOR THE
QUESTION. TO CLARIFY, YOU NEED
TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN
THAN YOUR QUESTION. IS A
NONPARTISAN LEGISLATIVE COMMISSN
LEGISLATIVE COMMISSION THAT DID
DID FIND THAT ILLEGAL LOADING
DID HAPPEN IN THE LAST
ELECTION. THEY ALSO FOUND OUT
THAT CLERKS WERE GIVEN LEGAL
GUIDANCE BY A WISCONSIN
ELECTIONS COMMISSION. LOOK, I
AM A CANDIDATE TODAY. I WISH
ALL THESE ELECTION INTEGRITY
ISSUES WERE FIXED IN PREVIOUS
ADMINISTRATIONS, BUT THEY
WEREN'T. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT
ONCE I AM GOVERNOR, WE NEVER
HAVE THESE QUESTIONS AGAIN
ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY. I
WILL WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
LEGISLATURE. WE WILL GET THESE
BILLS RIGHT. THE BILLS THAT
GOVERNOR EVERS VETOED, AND WE
WILL MAKE SURE PEOPLE DON'T
HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT
THINGS LIKE OUT-OF-STATE
BILLIONAIRES COMING IN AND
TAKING OVER OUR ELECTION
MAKE SURE BALLOT HARVESTING
STOPS. I WILL MAKE SURE WE STOP
STOP THE INDUSTRY COMBINED
STATUS UNDER GOVERNOR MICHAEL'S
MICHAEL'S ADMINISTRATION, WE
WILL NEVER HAVE QUESTIONS. AND
THEREFORE, I WILL CERTIFY ANY
ELECTIONS AFTER I AM ELECTED
GOVERNOR.
>> JUST A REMINDER, OUR DATA
TEAM IS POSTING INFORMATION
ABOUT ALL OF THESE TOPICS THAT
YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT
INCLUDING FACT CHECKS ON THESE
ISSUES. LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT
QUESTIONER. THAT IS FREDERICA
FREYBERG OF PBS WISCONSIN.
>> GENTLEMEN, ON THE ISSUE OF
ABORTION, PLEASE SPECIFY WHAT
YOUR POSITION IS ON ACCESS TO
ABORTION IN WISCONSIN
FOLLOWING THE REVERSAL OF ROE
V. WADE. INCLUDING WHETHER YOU R
YOU FAVOR CRIMINALIZING
ABORTION PILLS THROUGH THE MAIL
MAIL AND PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN
CROSSING STATE LINES TO GET AN
ABORTION IN A STATE WHERE IT IS
IS LEGAL. 1st TO YOU, MR.
MICHELS, ONE MINUTE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR A FEW
THINGS UP. YOU KNOW, THE
GOVERNOR SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
MISCHARACTERIZING MY POSITION,
CALLING ME A RADICAL. I AM
PRO-LIFE. I MAKE NO APOLOGIES
FOR THAT. BUT I WILL TELL YOU
THE REAL RADICAL IS. THE REAL
RADICALS ARE GOVERNOR EVERS. HE
HE IS FOR ALLOWING ABORTION AS
LATE AS THE TIME OF BIRTH. EVEN
EVEN VETOES HAVE A BORN ALIVE
BILL WHICH WOULD ALLOW A DOCTOR
DOCTOR TO MURDER A BABY AFTER
BIRTH. THAT IS EXTREME. THAT IS.
IS RADICAL. NOW, I AM A
COMMONSENSE GUY. I LISTENED TO
THE PEOPLE. I WILL ALWAYS
LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE. I HAVE
SAID THAT IF A BILL IS PUT
BEFORE ME FROM THE LEGISLATURE
WHICH IS A DIRECT
REPRESENTATION OF THE PEOPLE
AND IT HAD AN EXCEPTION IN IT FR
IT FOR RAPE AND INCEST, WILL
YOU STOP PILLS COMING THROUGH
THE MAIL? I AM NOT AGAINST
CONTRACEPTION.
>> TIME IS UP. THE ONE OTHER
QUESTION WAS MIDDLE RIVER PILLS
PILLS AS YOU MENTIONED, AND
CROSSING STATE LINES FOR LEGAL
ABORTIONS ELSEWHERE.
>> YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID. I'M A
A REASONABLE GUY. PEOPLE SAY,
TIM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF COMMON
SENSE. SO, YOU KNOW, THAT IS
SOMETHING WE WILL HAVE TO SIT
ON AND WORK OUT. BUT YOU KNOW,
I'M NOT GOING TO BE THIS
RADICAL GUY WITH CHECKS AT THE
BORDER.
>> GOVERNOR?
>> WELL, THE BOTTOM LINE HERE
IS THIS. WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE
ABILITY AND THE RIGHT TO MAKE
DECISIONS ABOUT THEIR HEALTH
CARE, INCLUDING REPRODUCTIVE
HEALTHCARE. AND THAT INCLUDES A.
INCLUDES ABORTION. MY OPPONENT
IS RADICAL ON THIS ISSUE. AND F,
AND FRANKLY, HE IS RADICAL BECAE
RADICAL BECAUSE IT IS NOT
CONSISTENT WITH WISCONSIN VALUE.
WISCONSIN VALUES. WE HAVE HAD
50 YEARS OF ROE V. WADE. IT HAS
HAS WORKED IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN. WE SHOULD GO BACK
THERE. TO THINK THAT WE ARE IN
A POSITION IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN WHERE WE HAVE A
GOVERNOR SAYING, WE ARE GOING
TO CRIMINALIZE ABORTION, WE ARE
ARE GOING TO THROW DOCTORS IN J,
IN JAIL, AND WE ARE NOT GOING
TO HAVE ANY EXCEPTIONS FOR RAPE
RAPE OR INCEST, THOSE
POSITIONS ARE RADICAL. THEY ARE
ARE NOT CONSISTENT WITH
WISCONSIN VALUES.
>> ALL RIGHT. WE GO TO THE NEXT.
NEXT QUESTION. THAT IS .
>> I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT
HEALTHCARE COSTS. ACCORDING TO
TO THE WISCONSIN HOSPITALS
ASSOCIATION, $1.1 BILLION IN UND
IN UNPAID BETTER CARE PATIENT
COSTS ARE NOT COVERED BY THE
STATE. SO THE $1.1 BILLION THEN
THEN IS SHIFTED ONTO ALL
WISCONSIN BUSINESSES AND
FAMILIES. HOW WOULD YOU REDUCE
THE REIMBURSEMENT GAP TO LOWER
HEALTHCARE COSTS FOR ALL
WISCONSINITES? GOVERNOR EVERS,
YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.
>> HEALTHCARE IS A HUGE ISSUE
FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COUNTRY.
AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE THAT
THAT WAY. I BELIEVE THAT ONE OF
OF THE WAYS WE CAN MAKE OUR
HEALTH SYSTEM THE BEST IT COULD,
COULD BE, WE COULD JOIN A WHOLE
WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER STATES.
THERE'S ONLY 12 OF US THAT
HAVEN'T TAKEN MEDICAID
EXPANSION OR BADGER CARE EXPANS.
CARE EXPANSION. IF WE WOULD
TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THERE'S
THERE'S ALSO OBVIOUSLY WITH
THOSE NUMBERS, THERE'S ALL
SORTS OF THE REPUBLICAN
GOVERNORS THAT HAVE GONE ALONG
WITH THIS. WE WOULD BE ABLE TO
PUT GREAT HEALTHCARE, GOOD
HEALTH INSURANCE TO 126,000
PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN THAT FRANKLY DON'T
HAVE THAT GOOD COVERAGE. THAT,
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE
WOULD RAISE ANOTHER BILLION
DOLLARS FROM THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT TO TAKE ISSUES AND
FIX ISSUES AROUND CHILD AND
MATERNAL CHILD WELLNESS. AND A
LOT OF OTHER ISSUES WE HAVE IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN. IT'S US
US WHO MAKE THE DECISION. WE
NEED TO DO IT.
>> MR. MICHELS?
>> HEALTHCARE IS A VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUE. I KNOW THAT.
AT MICHELS CORPORATION, WE
PROVIDE PLATINUM HEALTHCARE
FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. WE KNOW IF
YOU TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE, GOOD
THINGS WILL HAPPEN. BADGER CARE
CARE AND FAMILY CARE WERE
STARTED BY GOVERNOR TOMMY
THOMPSON WHO ENDORSED ME. HE
HAD A GREAT VISION TO HELP
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OVER THE
LAST 20+ YEARS. I'M GOING TO
MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE
ADEQUATE DOLLARS THERE FOR
PEOPLE SO THAT THEY CAN RECEIVE
RECEIVE THE HEALTH CARE THAT IS
IS NEEDED. IF WE HAVE PEOPLE
THAT ARE HEALTHY AND HAVE
PROPER HEALTHCARE, THEY WILL BE
BE MORE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS.
THEY WILL GET TO WORK. RAISE
THEIR FAMILY. THE PART OF THE
COMMUNITY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
SURE THAT HEALTHCARE IS THERE
FOR ALL. I WILL MAKE SURE THAT
THE FUNDING IS AVAILABLE. AND
I'M NOT JUST A CANDIDATE OR A
POLITICIAN TALKING ABOUT IT. I
HAVE DONE IT. I WILL DO IT AS
GOVERNOR.
>> ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO TO THE
NEXT QUESTION. VICTOR JACOBO.
>> LET'S MOVE TO THE TOPIC OF
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST. THIS IS
WHAT WISCONSIN'S STATE STATUTE
STATUTE SAYS. NO STATE PUBLIC
OFFICIALS MAY USE THE PUBLIC
POSITION TO GAIN FINANCIALLY OR
OR ANYTHING OF SUBSTANTIAL
VALUE FOR THE PRIVATE OF IT OF
THEMSELVES OR THEIR IMMEDIATE F.
IMMEDIATE FAMILY. GOVERNOR
EVERS, YOU ARE EXPECTED TO
ADHERE TO THAT DURING YOUR TERM
TERM IN OFFICE. MR. MICHELS,
YOUR CONSTRUCTION COMPANY HAS
DONE MORE THAN $1 BILLION
BUSINESS WITH STATE AND
GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. MR.
MICHAELS, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.
>> GREAT QUESTION. THANK YOU
FOR ALLOWING ME TO CLEAR THIS
UP A LITTLE BIT. SO, EVERY
SINGLE BID THAT MICHELS HAS
WON, REALLY THE LOW BIDDER IN
A TRANSPARENT PROCESS. IF YOU
GO BACK A FEW YEARS, WE SAVE
THE STATE TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AND PROVIDED A VERY
HIGH QUALITY PRODUCT. NOW, THE
DAY AFTER ELECTION DAY, BETWEEN
BETWEEN THEN AND INAUGURATION
DAY, I WILL COMPLETELY DIVEST
FROM MICHELS CORPORATION.
THERE WILL BE NO CONFLICT OF
INTEREST. LOOK, I AM A MAN OF
HIGHEST INTEGRITY. WAS 12 YEARS
YEARS IN THE ARMY, ACTIVE-DUTY,
ACTIVE-DUTY, I WAS HAND
SELECTED TO BE THE COMMANDER OFE
HONOR GUARD AT THE TOMB OF THE
UNKNOWN SOLDIER. IN OUR
BUSINESS WE HELPED GROW, MY
BROTHERS AND I FROM A FEW
HUNDRED TO OVER 8000 TODAY,
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT
HAVING INTEGRITY AND PROVIDING
FIRM LEADERSHIP. I WILL DO THE
RIGHT THING HERE. AND THE
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN HAVE NO
CONCERNS. THANK YOU.
>> GOVERNOR?
>> CERTAINLY, I HAVE MET ALL
THE LEGAL PARAMETERS THAT WERE
POSTED FOR THE GOVERNOR OF THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN. I'M A GUY
FROM PLYMOUTH WHO WAS A TEACHER
TEACHER FOR GOD SAKES. THERE
AREN'T MANY THINGS THAT ARE
VERY PROBLEMATIC ABOUT THIS.
NOW, I UNDERSTAND THAT MY OPPONT
MY OPPONENT IS GOING TO BE
DIVESTING AND ALL OF THAT. BUT
THERE IS, AND I'M SURE THEY ARE
ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEEK
BIDS FROM THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN. HOW DO WE -- AND I'MT
I'M NOT PINGING HIS HONESTY
HERE, BUT HOW DO WE ACTUALLY
KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK?
DO WE NEED TO CHANGE THE PROCES?
THE PROCESS? THAT IS A PROBLEM.
PROBLEM. I HAVE READ THAT IT IS
IS A PROBLEM WITH SOME PEOPLE.
I AM NOT AN EXPERT IN THIS. I
THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK KIND
OF FISHY.
>> LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT
QUESTIONER. THAT IS MICHELLE
McCORMICK.
>> ACCORDING TO THE WISCONSIN
DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE OUR STATE
STATE HAS A PROJECTED BUDGET
SURPLUS OF AN ESTIMATED $5
BILLION. AS GOVERNOR, WHAT WILL
WILL YOU DO WITH THE MONEY?
GOVERNOR EVERS, YOU HAVE A
MINUTE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT
QUESTION. FRANKLY, ONE OF THE
REASONS THAT THAT AMOUNT OF
MONEY IS IN OUR RAINY DAY FUND
AS A SURPLUS, IS BECAUSE WE DID
DID THE RIGHT THING DURING THE .
THE PANDEMIC. WE MADE SURE THAT
THAT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE
REVENUE COMING IN DURING THE PAC
THE PANDEMIC THAT PEOPLE THAT
WORKED IN SMALL BUSINESSES
WEREN'T SUFFERING. THAT FARMERS
WANT TO SUFFERING. OUR TOURISM
TOURISM INDUSTRY AND RESTAURANT,
AND RESTAURANTS, SO WE TOOK,
YOU KNOW, ABOUT $1 BILLION OF
THE MONEY WE RECEIVED FROM THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FROM BOTH
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND THE
AND THE ADMINISTRATION, THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. AND WE
INVESTED IN THAT. WE HAD A GOODE
GOOD OUTCOME. WE GOT THE LOWEST
LOWEST UNEMPLOYMENT EVER AND
THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF PEOPLE
WORKING EVER. OUR ECONOMY IS
STRONG. WE NEED TO USE THIS, AS
AS I SAID BEFORE, 10% TAX CUT,
GET RID OF THE MINIMUM MARKUP
LAW, AND PROVIDE TAX CREDITS.
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
MR.MICHELS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.
QUESTION. $5.8 BILLION SURPLUS,
SURPLUS, THAT'S WITH THE RAINY
RAINY DAY FUND. BUT BUT THE
EVERS-BARNES ADMINISTRATION
THINKS THAT'S A GOOD THING. I
THINK THAT'S AN AWFUL THING. WH?
THING. WHY? THE PEOPLE IN
WISCONSIN WERE OVERTAXED BY
NEARLY $6 BILLION. WE WILL DO
MASSIVE TAX REFORM. I'M GOING
TO PUT THAT MONEY BACK INTO THE
THE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE'S
POCKETS. WHAT WILL THAT DO?
THAT WILL STIMULATE OUR
ECONOMY. I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT W
RIGHT NOW, THIS EXCESS IN TAXES
TAXES THAT SOME PEOPLE THINK
IT'S A GOOD THING IS WRONG.
THERE ARE A LOT OF NEEDS OUT
THERE, BUT THERE'S A 43 1/2
BILLION DOLLAR ANNUAL STATE
BUDGET RIGHT NOW. WE JUST NEED
TO HAVE IS THIS MAN THAT ARE IN
IN THERE AND CAN DO A PROPER
ANALYSIS. WE HAVE 16 OPERATING
DIVISIONS AT MICHELS CORPORATIO.
WE DO A DEEP DIVE MONTHLY AND
A FORMAL REVIEW ORDERLY. I KNOW
KNOW HOW TO ANALYZE. I KNOW HOW
HOW TO MAKE GOVERNMENT MORE EFFT
MORE EFFICIENT. RIGHT NOW, YOU
ARE PAYING TOO MUCH IN TAXES.
I'M HERE TO TELL YOU, HELP IS
ON THE WAY.
>> NEXT QUESTION GOES TO DAN
HAGAN.
>> CLIMATE CHANGE IS ALREADY AFG
ALREADY AFFECTING
WISCONSINITES. WE REPORTED ON
PEOPLE IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN
AND THEIR RELIANCE ON WILD
RICE. BUT MORE FREQUENT EXTREME
EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS TIED TO
CLIMATE CHANGE ARE DISRUPTING
WILD RICE BEDS THREATENING A
SOURCE OF FOOD FOR THE OJIBWAY.
OJIBWAY. HOW SHOULD WE RESPOND
TO THE CLIENTS? YOU HAVE ONE
MINUTE.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I HAVE TO ADMIT I WAS UNAWARE
OF THE WILD RICE PROBLEM. YOU
ARE TYING IT TO CLIMATE CHANGE.
CHANGE. LOOK, I WANT A CLEAN
PLANET FOR MY CHILDREN, MY
FUTURE GRANDCHILDREN, I WANT
CLEAN DRINKING WATER, I WANT TO
TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE DOES
DOES THE RIGHT THING. AND AT
MICHELS CORPORATION, WE ARE A
VERY RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR. WE
ARE AN ENVIRONMENTAL LEADER.
WE HAVE A GREEN TIER 2 AWARD
FROM THE DNR FOR ALL OF OUR
GREAT ENVIRONMENTAL
INITIATIVES. SO, CLIMATE
CHANGE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT
LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
HAS THE TEMPERATURE GONE UP?
TEMPERATURE HAS ALWAYS
FLUCTUATED THROUGHOUT THE
HISTORY OF THIS WORLD. AND WE
CAN'T JUST SAY THAT IT ALL
HAPPENED BECAUSE OF MAN'S
ACTIONS IN THE LAST 100 YEARS.
BUT, WE SHOULD ALL BE
RESPONSIBLE LIKE WE ARE AT
MICHELS CORPORATION AND DO
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MAKE SURE
WE HAVE A HEALTHY PLANET FOR
FUTURE GENERATIONS.
>> MR.MICHELS, THE QUESTION
WAS, WHAT WILL YOU DO FOR
WISCONSIN, SPECIFICALLY?
>> I WILL PROVIDE LEADERSHIP. I
I WILL BE A BOLD LEADER. I WILL
WILL MAKE SURE WE DO ALL THE
RIGHT THINGS. I WILL MAKE SURE
WE WORK WITH THE DNR. BY THE
WAY, THE DNR HAS A LOT OF
PROBLEMS. IT IS PROBABLY CLOSE
CLOSE TO BEING BROKEN. I'M
GOING TO FIX THAT. I KNOW HOW
TO FIX THAT. AND WE ARE GOING
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE OF
OF WISCONSIN KNOW THAT THEY ARE
ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF AND WE
ARE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF THE
ENVIRONMENT.
>> GOVERNOR?
>> WELL, INSTEAD OF BLAH, BLAH,
BLAH, BLAH HERE, I WILL TALK
ABOUT THE SAME ENERGY PLAN. IT
IS SOMETHING THAT IS WORKING
WELL IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
WISCONSIN. WE HAVE ACTUALLY
BEEN ABLE TO INCREASE SOLAR IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN. AND
IT'S NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FOR
FOR CLEAN ENERGY NECESSARILY,
THEY JUST KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT
THING TO DO. AND IT'S CHEAPER.
WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR
EFFORTS AROUND SOLAR, AND WE WIL
CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS AROUND
MITIGATING CLIMATE CHANGE. I
THINK I HEARD THAT HE DOESN'T
BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE. I DO
DO BELIEVE IN CLIMATE CHANGE.
IT'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE. WE
ARE WORKING WITH THE OJIBWAY ON
ON THAT ISSUE AS WE SPEAK. IT
IS SO DYSFUNCTIONAL. THAT SAID,
SAID, WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE
TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CLEAN
ENERGY PLAN IS IN PLACE. I AM
SO PLEASED ACTUALLY WITH THE
FARMERS OF THE STATE. THEY ARE
WORKING TOGETHER ON MAKING SURE
SURE THAT THERE PRACTICES ARE
FARMER LED WATERSHED GROUPS
ACROSS THE STATE --
>> YOUR TIME IS UP. IT'S MOVE
ON TO ANY DU PONT.
>> WISCONSIN HAS A WATER PROBLE.
WATER PROBLEM. THOUSANDS OF
MILWAUKEE HOMES GET THEIR WATER
WATER THROUGH RED LATERALS.
HUNDREDS OF UTILITIES STATEWIDE
EXCEED SAFE NITRATE LEVELS.
ACROSS MARINETTE COUNTY, LOTS
OF FAMILIES HAVE BEEN DRINKING
BOTTLED WATER FOR YEARS BECAUSE
BECAUSE THE WATER COMING FROM
THEIR FAUCET IS CONTAMINATED
WITH PFAS. THE DOLLARS SET
ASIDE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TO
HELP EVERYONE WHO NEEDS HELP.
HOW WOULD YOU PRIORITIZE
SPENDING THE LIMITED DOLLARS
THAT WISCONSIN HAS TO PROVIDE
SAFE WATER FOR THE MOST
WISCONSINITES? GOVERNOR EVERS,
YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.
>> OKAY. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING
ON THIS PROBLEM FOR THE FOUR
YEARS I HAVE BEEN IN OFFICE.
IT IS AN IMMENSE PROBLEM. AND
WE ARE MAKING PROGRESS ACROSS
THE STATE WITH LATERALS. THE
GOOD NEWS IS, THE RECENTLY
PASSED BILL IN THE FEDERAL GOVET
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS BRINGING
FUNDING IN EXACTLY FOR THAT.
HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE OF
OF PFAS AND OTHER THINGS. I
HEARD MY OPPONENT SLAMMED THE
DNR FOR A FEW MINUTES THERE.
THE REASON WE CAN'T GET GOING
ON THAT IS BECAUSE OF ONE
MEMBER ON THE DNR BOARD WHO WAS
WAS APPOINTED BY MY
PREDECESSOR, AND HE WON'T
LEAVE. AND THE SENATE WON'T APPE
WON'T APPROVE MY WELL-QUALIFIED
WELL-QUALIFIED CANDIDATE. THAT
IS CRAZY. YOU KNOW? IT IS GOING
GOING TO TAKE US ANOTHER THREE
YEARS TO SET STANDARDS BECAUSE
ONE PERSON HAS DECIDED NOT TO
LEAVE THE DNR BOARD. THAT'S
DYSFUNCTION.
>> MR.MICHELS?
>> THANK YOU. THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION. I WANT TO SAY THAT
I'M A BUSINESS LEADER WHO
UNDERSTANDS THIS PROBLEM. I
TALKED ABOUT THE 8000 EMPLOYEES
EMPLOYEES WE HAVE AT MICHELS
CORPORATION. WE ARE AN
INFRASTRUCTURE CONTRACTOR. I
UNDERSTAND PUTTING PIPES IN THE
THE GROUND, REPLACING PIPES. I
KNOW WE PUT IN OVER 4000
MEGAWATTS OF RENEWABLE ENERGY.
AND I KNOW THAT WE STAND BY
WHAT WE DO. BUT THIS PFAS
ISSUE, THERE ARE SOME BAD
ACTORS OUT THERE WHO DID THE
WRONG THING. BUSINESSES WILL BE
BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. I'M NOT
GOING TO LET THEM GET OFF THE
HOOK. WHEN THEY TRY TO LEAVE
THE STATE OR DECLARE
BANKRUPTCY, I'M GOING TO MAKE
SURE THAT THERE ARE REMEDIES
THERE BECAUSE HAVING CLEAN
DRINKING WATER IS ONE OF THE
PRIMARY ROLES OF GOVERNMENT. WE
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT HAPPENS.
HAPPENS. BUT WHATEVER MONEY IS
LEFT, EVERYBODY HAS GONE
BANKRUPT, AND OF COURSE, WE
WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE
OF WISCONSIN HAVE DRINKING
WATER.
>> AND A REMINDER THAT SELECT
ISSUES LIKE THIS, WE ARE PROVIDG
ARE PROVIDING ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION ON THE DEBATE
WEBSITE. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT
QUESTIONER. THAT IS FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
>> TIM MICHELS SAYS HE IS IN
FAVOR OF UNIVERSAL SCHOOL
CHOICE WHICH WOULD OPEN A
PRIVATE SCHOOL ATTENDANCE TO
ANY STUDENT AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE.
TAXPAYER EXPENSE. TONY EVERS
WANTS TO PUT $2 BILLION INTO
PUBLIC SCHOOL FUNDING. THE
QUESTION IS, WHY SHOULD OR
SHOULDN'T WISCONSIN FUND 2
PARALLEL SCHOOL SYSTEMS, ONE
PRIVATE, AND ONE PUBLIC? THIS
QUESTION GOES FIRST TO
MR.MICHELS.
>> YES , FREDERICA FREYBERG,
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
EVERY PARENT IS A TAXPAYER. SO
THEY SHOULD ALL EQUALLY HAVE
THE BENEFIT OF THOSE TAX
DOLLARS TO EDUCATE THEIR KIDS.
THE EDUCATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN
IN WISCONSIN. WHAT DO I MEAN BY
BY THAT? A TEST SCORES CONTINUE
CONTINUE TO GO DOWN, THE STATE
TEST, THE NATIONAL TEST, THE
NUMBERS CONTINUE TO GO DOWN.
TONY EVERS HAS BEEN IN CHARGE
OF EDUCATION HIS WHOLE LIFE. HE
HE HAS BEEN HEAD OF EDUCATION
FOR THE PAST 13 OR 14 YEARS.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT EDUCATION
WOULD BE GOING WELL UNDER HIS
LEADERSHIP, BUT IT'S NOT. SOME
SOME THING HAS TO CHANGE. WHY?
BECAUSE WE HAVE NINE SCHOOLS INN
WITH A READING COMPREHENSION
SCORE IS ZERO. 60% OF THE KIDS
IN OUR SCHOOLS CANNOT READ AT TE
AT THE GRADE LEVEL. I'M GOING
TO DO UNIVERSAL SCHOOL CHOICE.
IT CAN'T GET ANY WORSE. IT WILL
WILL GET BETTER BECAUSE WE WILL
WILL EMPOWER PARENTS. THOSE
TUITION DAUGHTERS -- DOLLARS
ARE GOING TO DO WITH SONS AND
DAUGHTERS. WE WILL STOP THAT --
--
>> TIME IS UP. GOVERNOR?
>> CRTS ARE NOT TAUGHT IN OUR
SCHOOLS. ABC'S ARE. MOST
PARENTS TEACH ABC'S AT HOME
WITH THIRD-GRADERS. HERE'S THE .
THE DEAL. WE HAVE 99 REFERENDUM
REFERENDUM ISSUES FROM 60 SOME D
SOME SCHOOLED ISSUES IN THE
STATE. THEY ARE SAYING WE DON'T
DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY. IN
FACT, IF YOU THINK ABOUT HOW
MUCH MONEY IS DIFFERENT HERE,
IN THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT, IT
IT COSTS $47,000 A YEAR FOR TUI.
FOR TUITION. IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, MILWAUKEE PUBLIC
SCHOOLS HAS $16,000. THERE IS A
A BIG DIFFERENCE THERE. WE DO
NEED MORE RESOURCES. WE NEED TO
TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE
SPECIAL-EDUCATION MONEY. WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
MENTAL HEALTH MONEY. WE NEED TO
TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR LITERACY
PROGRAM IS MAKING THE TOP
READERS IN THE STATE. ALL THESE
THESE THINGS CAN BE DONE. YES,
I'M GOING TO INCREASE THE BUDGE.
THE BUDGET. BUT FRANKLY, THE
IDEA THAT MY OPPONENT --
>> TIME IS UP, GOVERNOR. SORRY.
SORRY. WE DO HAVE A FOLLOW-UP
QUESTION FROM FREDERICA.
>> THIS JUST CAME UP. YOU OFTEN
OFTEN SAY WE NEED TO START THE
CRT AND GET BACK TO THE ABCs.
THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
INSTRUCTION SAYS CRITICAL RACE ,
RACE THEORY, THE ACADEMIC LEVEL
LEVEL THEORY IS NOT BEING
TAUGHT IN WISCONSIN K-12
CLASSROOMS. WHAT IS YOUR
POSITION ON HOW THE HISTORY OF
RACE SHOULD BE TAUGHT IN OUR
SCHOOLS? THIS GOES 1st TO
GOVERNOR EVERS FOR 1 MINUTE.
>>
>> FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE TO
TELL YOU THAT ONE OF THE THINGST
THINGS THAT CONCERNS ME IS A
RADICAL POSITION. WHEN YOU SAY,
SAY, SHOULD WE FUND OUR SCHOOLSE
SCHOOLS MORE, IT DEFINES US. THS
US. THAT'S THE DEFINITION OF
INSANITY BY MY OPPONENT. WHAT
HIS PLAN IS RIGHT NOW IS TO
TAKE 40% OF THE FUNDING AWAY
FROM OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. THAT
IS CALLED DEFUNDING OUR PUBLIC .
PUBLIC SCHOOLS. BOTH OF THOSE
ARE RADICAL POSITIONS. THEY ARE
ARE NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN WANT. I HAVE RUN
SEVERAL TIMES IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN. REPUBLICANS, MOMS
AND DADS AND DEMOCRAT MOMS AND S
AND DADS GREAT SCHOOLS. AND
THAT'S WHAT WE ARE GOING TO
GET. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
WE HAVE THE RESOURCES TO DO
THIS. AS FAR AS CRT, IT IS NOT
TAUGHT IN OUR SCHOOLS. I SAID
THAT BEFORE. THEY HAVE THOSE
DISCUSSIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY L.
UNIVERSITY LEVEL.
>> GOVERNOR, LET ME FOLLOW-UP
MORE SPECIFICALLY. IS THE
QUESTION THEN, HOW SHOULD THE
HISTORY OF RACE IN OUR COUNTRY
BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS?
>> IT ABSOLUTELY CAN BE. IT HAS
HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CRT.
SHOULD WE TALK ABOUT THE FACT
THAT AT SOME GRADE LEVEL THAT
THE JAPANESE WERE INTERNED,
WORLD WAR II, JAPANESE
AMERICANS WERE INTERNED?
>> OF COURSE YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THAT. WE SHOULDN'T BE
AFRAID OF THAT. WE ARE STRONG
NATION OF STRONG COUNTRIES. IF
WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE
LIKE THAT, WE ARE IN SAD SHAPE.
WE MUST HAVE, YOU KNOW,
OBVIOUSLY, PARENTS HAVE A ROLE
IN MAKING THOSE DECISIONS,
TEACHERS, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN
ABLE TO FIGURE OUT --
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
>> FREDERICA FREYBERG, THANK
YOU FOR THE QUESTION. WE COULD
TALK ALL NIGHT ABOUT EDUCATION.
EDUCATION. I WOULD LOVE TO. I
WOULD SPEND MORE MONEY ON
EDUCATION IN ANY GOVERNOR THAN
THE HISTORY OF THE STATE
BECAUSE EDUCATION IS SO
IMPORTANT TO EDUCATING,
TRAINING OUR FUTURE LEADERS OF
THE STATE. FUTURE LEADERS OF
TV STATIONS, RESTAURANTS,
CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES,
NONPROFITS, RIGHT NOW, THEY ARE
ARE BEING FAILED. HOW ARE WE
GOING TO TEACH RACE? WE WILL
GET PARENTS INVOLVED. RIGHT
NOW, PARENTS SHOW UP TO A
SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. THEY ARE
GIVEN THE SCOOP. WE KNOW WHAT
WE ARE DOING. LET EDUCRATS EDUCE
EDUCRATS EDUCATE YOUR KIDS
BEST. I DISAGREE WITH THE
STATEMENT, FREDERICA, THAT
EVERYTHING IS BEING TAUGHT
PROPERLY RIGHT NOW. PARENTS
HAVE COME IN AND SHOW ME THE
STUFF THAT IS BEING TAUGHT TO
THE KIDS IN SCHOOL. THEY ARE
OUTRAGED. THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
I'M GOING TO EMPOWER PARENTS BY
BY HAVING TUITION DOLLARS GO TO
TO SONS AND DAUGHTERS TO THE
SCHOOL OF THEIR CHOICE, TUITION
TUITION DOLLARS THEY PAID TAXES
TAXES ON, WE WILL MAKE
EDUCATION BETTER FOR EVERYONE
HERE IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
WISCONSIN.
>> MR.MICHELS, THE QUESTION
WAS, HOW SHOULD THE HISTORY OF
RACE BE TAUGHT IN SCHOOLS?
>> YEAH. I ANSWER THAT. I SAID,
SAID, WE ARE GOING TO GET
PARENTS INVOLVED. WE WILL LET
PARENTS DECIDE, NOT A COUPLE OF
OF EDUCRATS WHO SAY THIS IS
WHAT IT IS NOW. WE WILL START
TEACHING THIS. THIS IS BAD AND
THIS IS GOOD. WE ARE GOING TO
FIGURE THIS OUT. WE ARE GOING
TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT SO WE DON'T
DON'T CONFUSE AND CLOUD THE
JUDGMENT OF OUR FUTURE LEADERS
OF WISCONSIN.
>> OUR NEXT QUESTION GOES TO
MICHELLE McCORMICK.
>> WE HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT
CRIME FIGHTING IN WISCONSIN.
WHAT IS YOUR DETAILED PLAN FOR
CRIME PREVENTION? MR.MICHELS,
YOU HAVE A MINUTE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS
THIS QUESTION. CRIME IS RUNNING
RUNNING RAMPANT. YOU KNOW,
CRIME WENT DOWN IN AMERICA FROM
FROM 30 YEARS AGO UNTIL TWO
YEARS AGO. IN THE LAST TWO
YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A
TREMENDOUS SPIKE. I BELIEVE
IT'S A BYPRODUCT OF THE DEFUND
THE POLICE MOVEMENT. WE GOT THIS
GOT THIS CRAZY SPOT IN AMERICA
WHERE LESS COPS IS BETTER,
POLICE ARE BAD? I DON'T BUY
THAT AT ALL. I HAVE THE
ENDORSEMENT OF MULTIPLE POLICE
ASSOCIATIONS. THEY KNOW THAT THE
THAT THE GOVERNOR EVERS WOULD
MINISTRATION PROVIDED WEAK
LEADERSHIP. THEY TOLD ME
DIRECTLY. I DON'T FEEL LIKE HE
HAS THEIR BACKS. I'M GOING TO
STAND WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT.
WHY? BECAUSE A HARD-WORKING,
TAXPAYING LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS
CITIZENS ARE AFRAID OF THE
SURGEON CRIME WE HAVE HAD IN
WISCONSIN OVER THE LAST TWO
YEARS. I'M GOING TO TALK TO THE
THE BAD GUYS, IF YOU WILL, ON
ELECTION NIGHT IN MY VICTORY SPH
VICTORY SPEECH. I WILL TALK TO
THEM IN MY INAUGURAL SPEECH. I
WILL LET THEM KNOW THERE IS A
NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN AND THEY
ARE BEHOLDEN RIGHT NOW. THEY
UNDERSTAND IF THEY ARE NOT
WILLING TO DO THE TIME, THEY
SHOULDN'T DO THE CRIME.
>> GOVERNOR?
>> WELL, ABSOLUTELY, PEOPLE
SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
BE SAFE IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD,
TO BE SAFE IN THEIR HOMES. WHO
WOULDN'T BELIEVE THAT?
ABSOLUTELY, WE HAVE TO HAVE
THAT. THAT IN ORDER TO
ACCOMPLISH THAT, IT ISN'T JUST
ABOUT TALKING TOUGH, BELIEVE
ME. IT'S ABOUT PROVIDING THE
RESOURCES SO THAT THOSE POLICE
OFFICERS CAN DO THEIR JOB, THE
TRAINING THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO
HAPPEN. AND WE PUT OVER $1 MILLN
$1 MILLION EXCUSE ME, $100
MILLION IN THE PANDEMIC FOR
THESE PLACES ACROSS THE STATE
OF WISCONSIN FOR VIOLENCE PREVE,
VIOLENCE PREVENTION, FOR LOCAL
OFFICERS AND POLICE OFFICERS
AND EMTs. WE HAVE TO MAKE THAT
HAPPEN IN A CONSISTENT WAY. THE
THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO DO
DO IT, WE WILL GO BACK AND TALK
TALK ABOUT THIS AGAIN, IS
REVENUE-SHARING. SHARED REVENUE
SHARED REVENUE IS SUCH AN
IMPORTANT THING. IF WE WANT
MUNICIPALITIES TO DO THE HARD
WORK, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE THE
MONEY. I WILL HAVE 12% IN THE
NEXT BUDGET FOR THEM.
>> LET'S GO TO OUR NEXT
QUESTION FROM AMY DU PONT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU
ABOUT PAROLE. WISCONSIN
ABOLISHED PAROLE 20 YEARS AGO
WHICH MEANS ONLY PEOPLE
CONVICTED BEFORE THE YEAR 2000
ARE ELIGIBLE. ACCORDING TO THE
STATE, THAT'S ROUGHLY 1700
PEOPLE. IT IS UP TO THE
WISCONSIN PAROLE COMMISSION TO
GRANT DISCRETIONARY PAROLE. THE
THE GOVERNOR APPOINTS THE
COMMISSIONS CHAIRPERSON. WHAT
FACTORS AS GOVERNOR DO YOU WANT
WANT THE CHAIRPERSON TO
CONSIDER WHEN DECIDING WHETHER
ELIGIBLE INDIVIDUALS SHOULD BE ?
GOVERNOR EVERS, YOU HAVE ONE
MINUTE.
>> ABSOLUTELY. I'M GLAD HE
POINTED OUT THAT THE GOVERNOR
DOES NOT CONTROL THE PAROLE
BOARD. THEY MAKE THOSE
DECISIONS. IT'S AGAINST THE LAW
LAW FOR THE GOVERNOR TO ISSUE
PAROLES. THAT SAID, THE MOST
IMPORTANT THING, AND I JUST
RECENTLY FIRED THE HEAD OF THE
COMMISSION FOR THIS VERY
REASON, HE DID NOT TAKE VICTIM
RIGHTS INTO ACCOUNT FOR ONE
PARTICULAR CASE. SO I ASKED HIM
TO REVERSE THAT. HE DID. I
ASKED HIM TO RESIGN. HE DID. IT
IT WAS THE WRONG DECISION. SO
DO WE NEED TO STRENGTHEN THAT?
ABSOLUTELY. BUT AT THE END OF
THE DAY, IT'S GOING TO BE A
RECORD. AGAIN. THIS IS ABOUT
SHARED REVENUE. YOU KNOW? WE
CAN TALK ABOUT PAROLE, BUT WE
HAVE ALL SORTS OF ISSUES IN THE
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM
THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. IT'S
IT'S MOSTLY DONE AT THE STATE
LEVEL. I HAVE TRIED TO GET OUR
SHARED REVENUE INCREASED. WE
WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN THIS TIME
AROUND. SHARED REVENUE IS WHAT
FOLKS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL ARE
ASKING FOR.
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.
MR.MICHELS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.
I WANT TO TIE IT INTO THE LAST
TWO QUESTIONS. THE ONE ABOUT
CRIME. YOU HEARD, MORE MONEY,
MORE RESOURCES, MORE RESOURCES,
RESOURCES, IT DOESN'T MATTER
ABOUT LEADERSHIP, YOU KNOW,
TALK, TALK. I AM GOING TO BE
TOUGH. I'M GONNA TALK TOUGH. I
WILL LEAD THE MEN AND WOMEN OF
LAW ENFORCEMENT. THAT'S HOW YOU
YOU GET CRIME DOWN IN
WISCONSIN. AND ON THE ISSUE OF
PAROLE, THE SAME THING. RIGHT N,
RIGHT NOW, GOVERNOR EVERS AND
HIS MINISTRATION MADE A PLEDGE
FOUR YEARS AGO DURING THEIR
CAMPAIGN TO CUT IN HALF THE
PRISON POPULATION. HE RELEASED
RELEASED OVER 1000 CONVICTED FE.
CONVICTED FELONS. THEY HAVE
10,000 MORE TO GO IF YOU DO THE
THE SIMPLE MATH ON 21,000 PEOPLE
21,000 PEOPLE BEING
INCARCERATED IN WISCONSIN. AND
OF THOSE, 300 ARE CONVICTED
MURDERERS, ATTEMPTED MURDERERS,
MURDERERS, 44 ARE CHILD
RAPISTS. I WILL MAKE SURE WE
HAVE RULE OF LAW IN WISCONSIN.
BAD GUYS WILL NOT GET OUT IF
THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO STICK
TO --
>> THANK YOU. LET'S GO TO DR.
HARRIS.
>> MR. MICHAELS, IF ELECTED,
WHAT WOULD YOUR ADMINISTRATION
DO TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF
WISCONSINITES DURING CIVIL
UNREST WHILE SECURING THEIR
FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO
ASSEMBLE? YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE.
>> YES, THANK
REQUESTED. AND KENOSHA ASKED US
US AT 2:00 IN THE MORNING. THAT
THAT SAME DAY AFTER 2:00 IN THE
THE MORNING, WE HAD PEOPLE. WE
HAD A NATIONAL GUARD THERE AND
WE DOUBLED IT EVERY SINGLE DAY.
DAY. IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE
TRUTH ABOUT THE SITUATION
INSTEAD OF LISTENING TO MY
OPPONENT, JUST ASK THE KENOSHA
COUNTY SHERIFF WHO IS A
REPUBLICAN. HE SAID WE DID .
IN OUR ECONOMY, STOP SENDING
THEM UNEMPLOYMENT CHECKS, COVID
COVID SUBSIDY CHECKS, WHICH I
KNOW ARE GONE, BUT THEY WERE
GETTING THEM. THAT'S HOW THEY
GOT LAZY. THE SECOND THING
STA& CE-IE SU GIAEY
LIVING IN WISCONSIN AS WELL AS0
AS 7000 RECIPIENTS FOR A CHILD
ARRIVALS PROGRAM, OTHERWISE
KNOWN AS DACA. WOULD YOU
SUPPORT UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS
IMMIGRANTS AND DOCTORAL
RECIPIENTS, WHY OR WHY NOT?
MR.MICHELS, YOU HAVE ONE
MINUTE.
>> YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT
QUESTION, VICTOR. SO, THE FIRST
FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS
MAKE SURE THAT OUR BORDER IS
SECURE. NO SOVEREIGN NATION CAN
CAN BE SOVEREIGN IF WE HAVE A
LEAKY BORDER THAT WE HAVE.
THERE HAS BEEN 3 MILLION
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS THAT HAVE
COME INTO THIS COUNTRY IN THE
20 MONTHS OF THE JOE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION. THAT SHOULD
STOP. NOW, I AM ALL FOR MORE
IMMIGRANTS IN WISCONSIN. WE
NEED MORE. I JUST TALKED ABOUT
HELP WANTED SIGNS EVERYWHERE.
WE NEED TO GET THEM IN HERE
LEGALLY. THIS IS A FEDERAL
ISSUE. WE SHOULD EXPAND THE
FEDERAL INTEGRATION PLAN SO
THAT PEOPLE WHO WANT TO COME TO
TO AMERICA AND PURSUE THEIR
AMERICAN DREAM HAVE THEIR
OPPORTUNITY. AND AMERICA HAS
THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE
THE BAD GUYS AREN'T COMING
ACROSS THE BORDER BECAUSE THEY
SEEK OPPORTUNITY HERE TO HAVE
MORE CRIME, LIKE WE ARE SEEING
WITH A LOT OF THE GANGS THAT
ARE OUT THERE. SO, YEAH. I WANT
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE
MORE WORKERS. WE CANNOT REWARD
BAD BEHAVIOR. NO DRIVERS
LICENSE FOR ILLEGALS.
>> I'M STILL TRYING TO BATTLE
THE ISSUE OF LAZY WISCONSINITES
WISCONSINITES WHEN WE HAVE SO
FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED
IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN. BUT
THAT SAID, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT
NEXT QUESTION. I THINK THIS A VY
A VERY CRITICAL QUESTION. THAT
SHOWS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
THE TWO PEOPLE HERE. YES, WE
HAVE 70,000 UNDOCUMENTED PEOPLE
PEOPLE IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, MOST OF THEM ARE
WORKING HARD, WHETHER THEY ARE
IN OUR FACTORIES, WHETHER THEY
ARE IN THE AGRICULTURE AREA. IF
IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, I
MEAN, IF THOSE PEOPLE WOULD
LEAVE THE AGRICULTURE INDUSTRY,
INDUSTRY, WE WOULD NO LONGER BE
BE THE DAIRY STATE, FOLKS. WE
DEPEND ON THAT LABOR. THEY
PROVIDE GREAT LABOR. WE NEED TO
TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO THEM, YEAH,
THEM, YEAH, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE
TO HAVE A DRIVERS LICENSE. YOU
SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO IT. IT
WILL BE SAFER BECAUSE THEY WILL
WILL HAVE TO TAKE A TEST. IN
ADDITION, DACA KIDS SHOULD BE
ABLE TO GET IN-STATE TUITION.
THAT'S THE LEAST WE CAN DO FOR
THE WORK THESE PEOPLE ARE
DOING.
>> WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
THIS IS A 32nd QUESTION. AND
VICTOR HAS THAT.
>> CANDIDATES, IF YOU LOSE IN
NOVEMBER, FOLLOWING THE NORMAL
PROCESSES OF COUNTY CANVASES
AND RECOUNTS, DO YOU COMMIT TO T
TO RESPECT THE OUTCOME OF THIS
GUBERNATORIAL ELECTION, AND
ACKNOWLEDGE IT AS FAIR AND FINA?
AND FINAL? GOVERNOR, YOU GO
FIRST.
>> THANK YOU. AND YES.
ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S MY JOB AS
GOVERNOR. A CERTIFIED THE
ELECTION LAST TIME. INFORMATION
INFORMATION CAME IN FROM ALL
THOSE HARD-WORKING PEOPLE IN
THE LOCAL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE .
THE STATE. FRANKLY, WE OWE THEM
THEM OUR THANKS. YES. I DID IT
LAST TIME. YES, NO MATTER WHO
WINS, MY OPPONENT OR ME, I WILL
WILL CERTIFY THAT ELECTION.
ABSOLUTELY.
>> MR.MICHELS?
>> OF COURSE I WILL CERTIFY THE
THE NEXT ELECTION. THERE'S
RADICAL CONSPIRACY THEORIES
ABOUT REPUBLICANS. THEY WON'T
CERTIFY ELECTIONS. I SPENT 12
YEARS ON ACTIVE DUTY. I TOOK
THE OATH OF OFFICE. I SWORE TO
UPHOLD AND DEFEND THE
CONSTITUTION. OF COURSE I WILL
CERTIFY THE NEXT ELECTION. I
WANT TO MAKE SURE AFTER I AM
GOVERNOR WE ARE NOT HAVING
THESE CONVERSATIONS TWO YEARS
FROM NOW, FOUR YEARS FROM NOW
AND BEYOND. I WILL FIX THE
ELECTION PROCESS AND MAKE SURE
NO ONE IN WISCONSIN, AND THE
REPUBLICAN, INDEPENDENT OR
DEMOCRAT HAS ANOTHER QUESTION
ABOUT ELECTION INTEGRITY.
>> THANK YOU. WE HAVE TIME FOR
ONE FINAL QUESTION. BECAUSE YOU
YOU HAVE BEEN SO EFFICIENT, YOU
YOU WILL GET 90 SECONDS. LET'S
GO TO OUR NEXT QUESTION. IT'S
THE CLEANUP QUESTION, DAN.
>> DURING THIS DEBATE OR IN ADS
ADS YOU HAVE HEARD THINGS SAID
ABOUT YOU THAT YOU BELIEVE ARE
PLAIN WRONG. IN THE LAST
QUESTION, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A
A CHANCE TO SET THE RECORD STRA.
RECORD STRAIGHT. WHAT IS IT
ABOUT YOU THAT YOU REALLY WANT
TO KNOCK DOWN? THE FIRST
QUESTION AND RESPONSE GOES TO M.
TO MR. MICHELS.
>> THANK YOU FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY. THE OTHER SIDE HAS
HAS SPENT TENS OF MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS TO TRY TO CRITICIZE ME
ME AS RADICAL AND
IRRESPONSIBLE. THAT'S
EVERYTHING BUT THE TRUTH. ONE
IS, WE HAVE A BAD CULTURE AT
MICHELS CORPORATION. LET ME
GIVE YOU NUMBERS. THE FIRST
NUMBER, THERE HAVE BEEN FIVE
SEXUAL ALLEGATIONS OVER THE 52
YEAR HISTORY OF OUR COMPANY,
AND ZERO OF THEM HAVE BEEN
FOUND TO BE TRUE. WE HAVE A
TREMENDOUS CULTURE AT MICHELS.
MICHELS. A TREMENDOUS CULTURE
OF RESPECT, RESPECT FOR WOMEN,
RESPECT FOR MINORITIES, RESPECT
RESPECT FOR ANYBODY. ASK ANYONE
ANYONE WHO WORKS AT MICHELS,
WE HAVE EMPLOYEES WITH NIECES
AND NEPHEWS, YOU CAN FIND
SOMEBODY. THEY WILL TELL YOU
WHAT A TERM OF THIS CULTURE WE
HAVE. YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE,
TRYING TO THROW ONE OF
WISCONSIN'S GREATEST BUSINESSES
BUSINESSES UNDER THE BUS FOR
POLITICAL GAIN. THAT'S ONE OF
THE BIG DIFFERENCES IN THIS
ELECTION CYCLE. IT'S, ARE WE
GOING TO ELECT PEOPLE WHO HAVE
DONE REAL THINGS IN LIFE?
PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE PAYROLLS,
WHO MADE TOUGH DECISIONS, WHO
CREATED JOBS, NOT JUST TALK OF
CREATING JOBS, BUT ACTUALLY
DONE IT. I CREATED THOUSANDS OF
OF JOBS, NONUNION JOBS, UNION
JOBS, AND I KNOW HOW TO GET
THINGS DONE. THE GOVERNOR EVERS
EVERS ADMINISTRATION, ALL HE
WANTS TO DO IS BLAME OTHERS AND
AND TALK ABOUT MORE RESOURCES,
MORE MONEY, IT'S NOT MY FAULT,
IT'S THE LEGISLATURE'S FAULT,
IT'S THE PAROLE COMMISSIONERS
FAULT, I AM A LEADER WHO WILL
TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. I AM A MAN
MAN OF INTEGRITY. AND WE WILL
HAVE A BETTER WISCONSIN FOR
GENERATIONS TO COME.
>> GOVERNOR EVERS, THIS IS YOUR
YOUR CHANCE TO SET THE RECORD
STRAIGHT AND CLEAR THE RECORD
FOR YOU.
>> ABSOLUTELY. THEY KEEP SAYING
SAYING I SLEEP TOO LATE. I GET
UP EARLY LIKE ANY OTHER HUMAN
BEING THAT IS WORKING HARD TO
WORK FOR THE PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN. SO, GOING TO BED
LATE, GETTING UP EARLY, THEY
SAY I SPEND TOO MUCH SLEEPING.
I'M JUST KIDDING, FRANKLY. BUT
IT IS A BUNCH OF CRAP. HERE'S
THE DEAL, OUR ECONOMY IN THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN IS STRONG.
WE ARE STRONG BECAUSE WE ARE
WISCONSINITES. WE HAVE BEEN
ABLE TO FIX THE ROADS. WE HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE RESOURCES
FOR OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. WE CUT
TAXES BY 15%, AND WE BROUGHT BUS
BROUGHT BUSINESSES TO EVERY
CORNER OF THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, SMALL BUSINESSES,
OVER 6000 RIGHT NOW, HEADING
TOWARD 7000. SO WE HAVE BEEN
SUCCESSFUL. WE HAVE BEEN DOING
THE RIGHT THING. AND WE WILL
CONTINUE DOING THE RIGHT THING
GOING FORWARD. WE ARE A STRONG
STATE AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO
BE STRONG. HERE IS MY BEEF.
THIS NOVEMBER, WE ARE GOING TO
BE MAKING A HUGE CHOICE IN THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN. IT'S ABOUT
CONTINUING TO DO THE RIGHT
THING, BEING A STRONG
WISCONSIN, OR FRANKLY, GOING BA.
GOING BACKWARDS. BECAUSE WE
HAVE CHOSEN A GOVERNOR WHO, YOU
YOU KNOW, ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE
AFTER ISSUE, ON ABORTION, ON
VOTING RIGHTS, ON EDUCATION,
RADICAL SOLUTIONS THAT ARE
GOING TO HURT OUR STATE. FOLKS,
FOLKS, FIRST OF ALL, THANKS FOR
FOR THE BROADCASTERS FOR DOING
THIS GREAT WORK TONIGHT, AND
THANK YOU. I HOPE TO HAVE YOUR
VOTE THIS NOVEMBER.
>> THANK YOU, GOVERNOR EVERS.
THANK YOU, MR.MICHELS.
MICHELS, R QUESTION TEAM, I
WILL NAME THEM AGAIN FOR YOU,
IS AMY DuPONT, FREDERICA
FREYBERG, DAN HAGEN, DR. KEN
HARRIS FROM MILWAUKEE, VICTOR
JACOBO FROM MILWAUKEE AND
TELEMUNDO WISCONSIN, STATEWIDE,
STATEWIDE, AND MICHELE
McCORMACK FROM GREEN BAY, WE
HAVE COVERED THE STATE. WE
WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK OUR
DATA TEAM MEMBERS WHO HAVE BEEN
BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE
SCENES. WE WANT TO TELL YOU
THAT THESE RESEARCH MATERIALS
CAN BE FOUND AT W VA'S DEBATE
WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA
ACCOUNTS WITH A HASHTAG,
#WVADEBATE. THANK YOU TO JAMES
LANGER FROM MADISON AND
GIULIANA FROM MADISON. AND NOW,
NOW, MICHELLE?
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR
FOR TONIGHT'S DEBATE. AN
OPPORTUNITY FOR WISCONSIN
CITIZENS TO HEAR FROM THE
LEADING GUBERNATORIAL
CANDIDATES. THIS DEBATE HAS
BEEN SPONSORED BY RW VA
FOUNDATION FROM THE GRANT OF
INDEPENDENT COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES, AND THE WISCONSIN
WISCONSIN COUNTIES ASSOCIATION.
ASSOCIATION. OUR SINCERE THANKS
TO THE WISCONSIN RADIO AND TV
STATIONS WHO WORK TOGETHER TO
PRODUCE AND AIR THIS BROADCAST.
TO THE CANDIDATES, OUR
MODERATOR, OUR PANELISTS, OUR
DATA TEAM. AS ALWAYS, W VA
MEMBER STATIONS WILL BE HERE TO
TO BRING YOU THE RESULTS.
ELECTION DAY IS TUESDAY,
NOVEMBER 8. EXERCISE YOUR
RIGHTS AS AN AMERICAN AND VOTE.[
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