% PBS WISCONSIN ORIGINAL
% PRODUCTION.%>> TO IMPROVE TH
E SERVICE THAT
% WISCONSINITES RECEIVE.
% >> REPUBLICANS TAKE A VICTORY
% LAP.
% AND JUST AS THE NEW FUNDING IS
% CUT OVER ITS DIVERSITY OFFICES,
% AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN COLLEGE
% ADMISSIONS IS STRUCK DOWN BY THE
% U.S. SUPREME COURT.
% >> I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% FORMER GOVERNOR TOMMY THOMPSON
% SHARES HIS VISION FROM HIGHER
% EDUCATION.
% AND POLITICAL TAKES ON BUDGET
% ACTION AT THE CAPITOL FROM
% PANELIST BILL McCOSHEN AND SCOT
% ROSS.
% IT'S "HERE & NOW" ON JUNE 30th.
% >> FUNDING FOR "HERE & NOW" IS
% FUNDED BY FRIENDS OF PBS
% WISCONSIN.
% >> THE NEARLY 99 BILLION DOLLAR
% BIANNUAL STATE BUDGET FINISHED
% ITS JOURNEY THROUGH THE SENATE
% AND ASSEMBLY THIS WEEK PASSING
% ALONG PARTY LINES AND HEADS TO
% THE GOVERNOR'S DESK WHERE HE HAS
% PROMISED AN ABUNDANCE OF PARTIAL
% VETOES IF HE DOESN'T VETO THE
% BUDGET IN FULL.
% REPUBLICANS HERALDED THE TAX
% CUTS AS A TRIUMPH WHILE
% DEMOCRATS ASSAILED THEM.
% >> I'M INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THE
% DOCUMENT PRESENTED TODAY.
% IT FOCUSES ON THE PRIORITIES WE
% HEARD AND KNOW WISCONSINITES
% WANTS.%IT'S ENSURING WE CAN A
FFORD IT
% FOR THE LONG-TERM, MAKING SURE
% WE INVEST IN OUR PRIORITIES
% EVERYTHING FROM POLICE AND FIRE
% TO ENSURING WE HAVE GREAT
% SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STATE AND
% THEN ULTIMATELY RETURNING A
% SIGNIFICANT CHUNK, ALMOST HALF
% OF THE DOLLARS THAT WERE
% OVERTAKEN FROM THE CITIZENS OF
% WISCONSIN BACK TO THEM IN INCOME
% AND PROPERTY TAX CUTS.
% >> TODAY I URGE MY GOP
% COLLEAGUES TO PROVIDE TARGETED
% TAX RELIEF TO THE MIDDLE-CLASS
% FAMILIES AND MAIN-STREET
% BUSINESSES WHO ARE THE BACK
% BONEBONE OF THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN.
% EVERY WISCONSINITE SHOULD KNOW
% REPUBLICANS ARE CHOOSING TO GIVE
% OUR STATE'S TOP ELEVEN EARNERS
% 20 MILLION DOLLARS IN TAX CUTS.
% >> THE U.S. SUPREME COURT THIS
% WEEK CALLED AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
% OR CONSIDERATION OF A PERSON'S
% RACE IN COLLEGE ADMISSIONS
% UNCONSTITUTIONAL FOR VIOLATING
% THE EQUAL PROTECTION CLAUSE.
% AFFIRMATIVE ACTION POLICIES HAVE
% EXISTED SINCE THE '60s AND
% CONSIDER A PERSON'S MINORITY
% RACE STATUS TO COUNTERACT.
% THE RULING WILL REQUIRE MOD
% MODIFICAT
% MODIFICATIONS.%WE'LL ADAPT PR
ACTICES TO COMPLY
% WITH THE LAW.
% AT THE SAME TIME I WANT TO
% REITERATE THAT OUR COMMITMENT TO
% THE VALUE OF DIVERSITY WITHIN
% OUR COMMUNITY INCLUDING RACIAL
% DIVERSITY REMAINS A BEDROCK
% VALUE OF THE INSTITUTION.
% HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS
% IN THE STATE BUDGET GO TO HIGHER
% EDUCATION AND WITH LITTLE
% COORDINATION BETWEEN THE UW AND
% TECHNICAL COLLEGE SYSTEMS, WE
% ARE NOW AT A CROSSROADS.
% THAT'S ACCORDING TO TOMMY
% THOMPSON, FORMER GOVERNOR AND
% FORMER UW SYSTEM PRESIDENT.
% HE JOINS ME NOW AND THANKS VERY
% MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
% >> IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE WITH
% YOU, ALWAYS IS, AND I LOVE YOUR
% PROGRAM, I LOVE WHAT YOU DO AND
% THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING
% ME ON YOUR PROGRAM.
% >> THANK YOU.
% SO WITH 13 TWO-YEAR UW CAMPUSES
% AND 16 MAIN TECHNICAL COLLEGES
% IN WISCONSIN, WHAT ARE THE
% INEFFICIENCIES IN THAT?
% >> WELL, THAT'S ONLY PART OF THE
% PROBLEM, WHAT YOU JUST OUTLINED.
% WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE
% UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN, IT'S
% GOT 13 CAMPUSES, BUT IT ALSO HAS
% 13 TWO-YEAR CAMPUSES.
% SO IT'S GOT 26.
% AND THE LOCATION SCHOOL HAS 16
% MAIN CAMPUSES BUT 54 OTHER
% BRANCH CAMPUSES.
% YOU HAVE 80 PLACES THAT TEACH
% HIGHER EDUCATION AND VOCATIONAL
% EDUCATION.%THERE'S NO COOPERA
TION, NO
% CONSIDERATION OF ONE TO THE
% OTHER.%THERE ARE TWO DIFFEREN
T SYSTEMS.
% ONE IS FUNDED BY THE TAXPAYERS
% OF THE STATE; ONE IS FUNDED BY
% THE PROPERTY TAXPAYERS AND THE
% COORDINATION IS SMALL.
% THE POPULATION IS GOING DOWN AND
% 2026 IS A CLIFF.
% AND NOBODY IS PLANNING WHAT ARE
% WE GOING TO DO.
% THAT'S WHY I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING
% FOR SOME TIME, THERE NEEDS TO BE
% A TASK FORCE TO STUDY THIS
% BECAUSE WE HAVE OVERDUPLICATION,
% TOO MANY BUILDINGS AND TOO MUCH
% EDUCATION FOR THE AMOUNT OF
% STUDENTS WE HAVE.
% WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT
% IT.%BETTER TO DO IT NOW IN A
N
% IMPARTIAL SYSTEMIC SMART WAY
% THAN WAITING UNTIL 2026 AND SAY,
% "OH MY LORD, WHAT DO WE DO?"
% >>THE WRITING HAS BEEN ON THE
% WALL FOR YEARS.
% NOW WESTBEND WANTS TO
% CONSOLIDATE.%IS IT YOUR SENSE
THE REST OF THE
% TWO-YEAR CAMPUSES SHOULD MERGE
% WITH TECH CAMPUSES?
% >> NOT NECESSARILY BUT THEY
% SHOULD COME TOGETHER AND SAY
% WHICH ONE IS THE STRONGEST.
% ONE SHOULD BE A TECH SCHOOL.
% MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE ALL
% COMMUNITY COLLEGES, I THINK.
% I THINK THEY SHOULD COME
% TOGETHER AND ALLOW THE STUDENTS
% TO BE ABLE TO CHOOSE THE BEST
% COURSE FOR THEMSELVES AND GET
% MORE STUDENTS TO GRADUATE.
% IT'S SORT OF A DEPLORABLE RECORD
% TO GET ALL THESE STUDENTS INTO
% COLLEGE AND THEY DON'T FINISH,
% BOTH AT THE UNIVERSITY AND EVEN
% MORE SO AT THE VOCATIONAL
% EDUCATION.%IT DOESN'T MAKE AN
Y SENSE TO ME
% AND IT DOESN'T HELP THE
% STUDENTS.%IT DOESN'T HELP TH
E WORKERS'
% PRODUCTIVITY OR GRADUATION RATES
% IN WISCONSIN.
% WE HAVE OVERDUPLICATION.
% WE HAVE SOME VOCATIONAL SCHOOLS
% AND TWO-YEAR CAMPUSES SHARING
% THE SAME PARKING LOT, THE SAME
% CLASSROOMS, AND YET THEY HAVE
% TWO DIFFERENT SYSTEMS.
% DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE TO
% ANYBODY WHEN THE DECLINING
% POPULATION IN BOTH SYSTEMS ARE
% VYING FOR THAT STUDENT?
% WHY DON'T WE PUT ALL OF THESE
% INTO A COMMUNITY COLLEGE AND PUT
% THEM IN AND DECIDE HOW MANY WE
% REALLY NEED?
% >> WHAT ABOUT KIND OF LOCALIZED
% SENSE OF PRIDE AND OWNERSHIP OF
% HAVING A UW CAMPUS FOR STUDENTS
% WHO CAN GO ON TO GET THEIR
% FOUR-YEAR AGREE AT THE
% CORRESPONDING CAMPUS?
% >> IT'S WONDERFUL BUT THE
% PROBLEM IS YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT
% AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENED IN
% RICHLAND CENTER.
% IT'S BEING CLOSED DOWN.
% NOW THE COUNTY OF RICHLAND,
% WHICH IS A POOR COUNTY, HAS GOT
% TO TAKE CARE OF THE BUILDINGS
% AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE
% CLASSES NEXT YEAR.
% AND SO THE PEOPLE IN RICHLAND
% CENTER ARE VERY UPSET.
% BUT YOU HAVE A VOCATIONAL SCHOOL
% DOING VERY WELL.
% WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE, I MEAN,
% JUST COMMON SENSE TO SAY WHY
% DON'T THE TWO COME TOGETHER AND
% HAVE COURSES SO THAT THE
% STUDENTS CAN HAVE SOME COURSES
% IN THE RICHLAND CENTER SO THOSE
% BUILDINGS ARE BEING UTILIZED AND
% MAKE THOSE BOTH INTO A COMMUNITY
% COLLEGE?
% DOWN IN WEST BEND, THEY HAD THE
% UNIVERSITY DECLINING IN
% POPULATION BUT THE VOCATION
% SCHOOL IS DOING WELL.
% SO THE COUNTY EXEC CAME UP WITH
% A BRILLIANT IDEA.
% LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO, STUDY
% AND PUT THEM TOGETHER.
% THAT'S WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
% BUT WE SHOULD BE DOING THIS
% STATEWIDE.
% WE SHOULDN'T WAIT UNTIL THIS
% CATACLYSMIC DECLINE THAT'S
% COMING IN 2026 AND EVERYBODY IS
% SAYING, "WHY DIDN'T WE DO
% SOMETHING?"
% TIME IS NOW.
% IT WAS YESTERDAY, BUT TODAY
% LET'S GET STARTED AND NOT WASTE
% ANY MORE TIME.
% >> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE
% LEGISLATIVE BUDGET WRITERS
% CUTTING 32 MILLION DOLLARS FROM
% THE UW AND TARGETING ITS
% DIVERSITY, EQUITY, AND INCLUSION
% OFFICES?%>> WELL, I THINK, YO
U KNOW, THAT
% WHEN YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE
% AFFIRMATIVE ACTION OPINION THAT
% CAME OUT OF THE SUPREME COURT
% THIS WEEK, IT'S OBVIOUS THAT
% MAYBE THE UNIVERSITY HAS GOT TO
% COME TO GRIPS WITH THE FACT THAT
% THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK
% WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
% I'M NOT SAYING ONE SIDE IS RIGHT
% AND THE OTHER SIDE IS WRONG, BUT
% I'M SAYING COOPERATION AND
% LEADERSHIP AND DISCUSSION IS
% WHAT IS NEEDED AND I DON'T CARE
% THERE'S ENOUGH OF THAT.
% >> AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT OF
% THE SYSTEM, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF
% THE VALUE OF THOSE DEI OFFICES?
% >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY, I
% THINK THAT, I THINK THE
% UNIVERSITY HAS GONE, HAS GOT
% PROBABLY TOO MANY POSITIONS AND
% I THINK THE LEGISLATURE IS
% SAYING, "YES, YOU HAVE TOO MANY
% POSITIONS.
% YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF
% STUDENTS IN WISCONSIN AS WELL."
% WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THE
% UNIVERSITY IS WELL-FUNDED AND
% ABLE TO RECRUIT ENOUGH STUDENTS
% AND THE UNIVERSITY IS PLANNING
% AHEAD AND LOOKING AT THESE
% PROBLEMS AND FINDING WAYS TO,
% YOU KNOW, TO SOLVE THEM, AND
% THEY'VE GOT TO LEARN TO WORK
% WITH THE LEGISLATURE.
% >> WHO DO YOU THINK SHOULD TAKE
% THE CHARGE?
% >> I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE THE
% BOARD OF REGENTS, THE
% PRESIDENTS' DAY -- THE
% PRESIDENT, AND THE GOVERNOR.
% THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SET
% IT UP AND HAVE AN INDEPENDENT
% STUDY.%I THINK WE SHOULD SIT
DOWN WITH
% THE VOCATION SCHOOL AND THE
% UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN TWO-YEAR
% CAMPUSES AND COME UP WITH WAYS
% OF HOW TO TURN THEM INTO
% COMMUNITY COLLEGES AND BE ABLE
% TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WISCONSIN.
% WISCONSIN HAS GOT TO BE MORE
% GRADUATES AND MORE STUDENTS
% PREPARED TO WORK, MORE STUDENTS
% EDUCATED IN THE JOBS THAT WE
% HAVE AND ARE GOING.
% WISCONSIN IS GROWING AND WE
% DON'T HAVE THE EXPERTISE REALLY
% TO PILOT THE PROGRAMS AND THE
% JOBS THAT ARE OUT THERE.
% >> TOMMY THOMPSON, THANKS VERY
% MUCH.%>> MY PLEASURE.
% >> YOU CAN WATCH OUR FULL-LENGTH
% INTERVIEW WITH TOMMY THOMPSON BY
% VISITING OUR WEBSITE AT PBS
% WISCONSIN DOT-ORG/NEWS.
% TURNING TO ELECTIONS, THE JOB
% SECURITY OF THE ADMINISTRATOR OF
% THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
% COMMISSION IS UNCERTAIN AS
% OFFICIALS DELIBERATE THE FINE
% PRINT OF HER APPOINTMENT.
% MEAGAN WOLFE'S FOUR-YEAR TENURE
% HAS WEATHERED THE CHAOS OF
% HOLDING ELECTIONS AMIDST A
% PANDEMIC AND NUMEROUS COURT
% CASES ALLEGING VOTER FRAUD IN
% THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION
% BUT IS NOW IN THE CROSSHAIRS FOR
% SENATE REPUBLICANS WHO TYPICALLY
% APPROVE NOMINEES FOR THE JOB.
% THE WISCONSIN ELECTIONS
% COMMISSION VOTED ON WOLFE'S
% REAPPOINTMENT.
% THE COMMISSION'S THREE
% REPUBLICANS VOTED IN FAVOR BUT
% THE THREE DEMOCRATS ABSTAINED
% SAYING WOLFE DOESN'T NEED TO BE
% REAPPOINTED; SHE SHOULD MAINTAIN
% HER CURRENT ROLE UNTIL THERE IS
% A VACANCY.
% >> THANK YOU TO THE
% COMMISSIONERS FOR THEIR KIND
% WORDS AND THEIR UNANIMOUS
% SUPPORT FOR ME JOB PERFORMANCE
% TODAY.%I WAS SO IMPRESSED BY
THE
% COMMISSIONERS' INTEGRITY AND %
WILLING TO STAND UP FOR THE
% TRUTH ABOUT ELECTIONS, TO SET
% THE RECORD STRAIGHT ABOUT THE
% OUR PROCESS AND HOW THE
% COMMISSION WORKS AND HOW THE
% COMMISSION'S DECISIONS, WHICH I
% DON'T HAVE A VOTE ON, HOW
% THEY'RE MADE, DELIBERATED AS
% PART OF A PUBLIC MEETING.
% >> I THINK THE STATUTORY LAW
% REGARDING THE WEC IS CRYSTAL
% CLEAR, AS CLEAR AS IT CAN BE.
% I'M A BATTERED VETERAN OF I
% DON'T KNOW HOW MANY COURT CASES
% BEING APPOINTED IN 2016.
% IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO SUE US,
% THEY'RE GOING TO SUE US AND
% WE'LL SEE HOW THAT SHAKES OUT,
% BUT I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR
% INTERPRETATION OF THE LAW.
% >> I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT NOW
% WE ARE LEAVING THE JOB OF THE
% ADMINISTRATOR IN THE HANDS OF A
% CIRCUIT COURT JUDGE OR COURT OF
% THE APPEALS IN THE SUPREME COURT
% AND HER POSITION COULD BE IN
% JEOPARDY ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE.
% AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD
% FOR THE STAFF, I DON'T THINK
% THAT'S GOOD FOR THE
% ADMINISTRATION OF ELECTIONS IN
% WISCONSIN.% >> WITH ELECTION
2024 ALREADY
% HEATING UP, THE LATEST STATEWIDE
% POLLING ON CANDIDATES, SITTING
% POLITICIANS AND ISSUES TAKES THE
% PUBLIC TEMPERATURE IN WISCONSIN.
% THE NEW MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL
% POLL FINDS SOME INTERESTING
% RESULTS.%HERE TO TALK ABOUT I
T, POLL
% DIRECTOR CHARLES FRANKLIN.
% THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
% THE APPROVAL RATING JUMP IS
% INTERESTING.%>> IT'S QUITE A
JUMP.
% >> 57 PERCENT OF RESPONDENTS
% PROVE OF THE JOB HE'S DOING
% WHILE 38 PERCENT DISAPPROVE AND
% HIS APPROVAL RATING HAS GONE UP
% 11 POINTS SINCE THE LAST
% ELECTION.
% WHAT IN YOUR MIND EXPLAINS THIS?
% >> TWO THINGS.
% YOU'RE IN THE HEAT OF AN
% ELECTORAL BATTLE AND HE'S HAD A
% PRETTY GOOD LEGISLATIVE SESSION.
% HE CERTAINLY HASN'T GOT MOST OF
% WHAT HE WANTED BUT HE'S GOTTEN A
% FAIR BIT OF WHAT HE WANTED.
% SO I THINK THE SPRING HAS BEEN
% FAIRLY GOOD.
% IT'S ALSO STRIKING THAT HE'S THE
% ONE PERSON WHO'S REALLY HAD THIS
% SUBSTANTIAL RISE IN APPROVAL
% SINCE OCTOBER.
% OTHER RISES ARE MUCH MORE
% MODEST.
% SO I THINK WE HAVE TO GIVE
% CREDIT TO HIM.
% >> ON THE OTHER HAND, YOUR POLL
% SAYS 40 PERCENT SAY IT'S GOING
% IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
% COULD THAT BE SOMETHING OTHER
% THAN TONY EVERS?
% >> I THINK WE'RE SEEING THAT
% USED TO BE A MEASURE OF HOW GOOD
% A JOB THE INCUMBENT'S DOING, BUT
% NOW IF YOU'RE A DEMOCRAT YOU
% BLAME REPUBLICANS FOR WHY WE'RE
% HEADED OFF IN THE WRONG
% DIRECTION AND IF YOU'RE
% REPUBLICANS YOU BLAME THE
% DEMOCRATS FOR THE SAME THING.
% THERE'S A LOT OF ACROSS THE
% AISLE POINTING.
% WE SEE IN THE NATIONAL AND STATE
% NUMBERS.
% IT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT IT USED TO
% MEAN ABOUT WHETHER THINGS ARE
% GOOD OR BAD.
% >> IN THE GOP PRESIDENTIAL
% PRIMARY, AMONG REPUBLICANS AND
% THOSE WHO LEAN REPUBLICAN WHEN
% ACCOUNTING FOR ALL THE GOP
% CANDIDATES OUT THERE IT'S EVEN
% BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND RON
% DESANTIS, 31 PERCENT AND 30
% PERCENT.
% WITH 21 PERCENT UNDECIDED, THAT
% SEEMS LIKE A BIG NUMBER.
% WHEN ASKED WHO THEY WOULD PICK
% WHEN ONLY BETWEEN THOSE TWO, 57
% PERCENT CHOSE DeSANTIS OVER 41
% PERCENT FOR TRUMP.
% WHAT DO ALL THESE NUMBERS SAY?
% >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S
% REALLY SURPRISING BECAUSE IN
% NATIONAL POLLING TRUMP IS
% LEADING DeSANTIS BY AT LEAST
% DOUBLE DIGITS AND THAT'S BEEN
% PRETTY CONSISTENT INCLUDING IN
% OUR NATIONAL POLLING.
% I WAS SURPRISED BY THAT NUMBER.
% BUT WHAT WE SEE IS THAT OF THE
% PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY
% OTHER THAN DeSANTIS OR TRUMP OR
% ARE UNDECIDED, THEY GO 65 TO 75
% PERCENT TO DeSANTIS WHEN YOU ASK
% THE HEAD TO HEAD QUESTION.
% ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF THEM
% MOVE TO TRUMP.
% TRUMP IS GETTING A LOT OF
% SUPPORT FROM HIS BASE WITHIN THE
% PARTY BUT OF THE 30 PERCENT OF
% REPUBLICANS THAT DON'T LIKE
% TRUMP, HE GOT ZERO PERCENT ON
% THE HEAD-TO-HEAD QUESTION.
% SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THOSE
% THAT LIKE HIM STILL LIKE HIM
% QUITE A BIT BUT THERE IS THIS
% SEGMENT, A MINORITY OF 30
% PERCENT, THAT REALLY DON'T LIKE
% TRUMP AND ARE LOOKING FOR ANY
% ALTERNATIVE.%>> SO AS FOR EIT
HER OF THE TWO
% FRONTRUNNING REPUBLICAN
% CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT, YOUR
% POLL SHOWED A CLOSE MATCH-UP
% BETWEEN JOE BIDEN AND DeSANTIS
% WITH 4 PERCENT UNDECIDED IN THE
% HYPOTHETICAL MATCH-UP BETWEEN
% BIDEN, HE DOES MUCH BETTER
% AGAINST TRUMP, 52 PERCENT TO 43
% PERCENT.
% SO AS A CANDIDATE, DONALD TRUMP
% HAS SOME WORK TO DO IN THIS
% IMPORTANT SWING STATE.
% >> YES, I THINK THAT IS
% CERTAINLY THE CASE AND IT GOES
% PARTLY TO THE ELECTABILITY
% ARGUMENT.% IT ALSO GOES TO
THE FACT THAT
% TRUMP IS STILL GETTING 94 AND 95
% PERCENT OF THE REPUBLICAN VOTE
% WHEN HE'S MATCHED UP AGAINST
% BIDEN.%DeSANTIS GETS ALMOST E
XACTLY THE
% SAME REPUBLICAN SUPPORT THERE.
% SO IT'S NOT REPUBLICANS
% DESERTING TRUMP AT ALL.
% WHAT IT IS, IS THE INDEPENDENTS
% WHO LEAN A LITTLE BIT TO BIDEN
% VERSUS DeSANTIS AND MOVE HEAVILY
% TO BIDEN WHEN IT'S TRUMP.
% IT'S WINNING YOUR PRIMARY WITH A
% LOT OF TRUE BELIEVERS BUT MOVING
% ON TO A GENERAL ELECTION YOU
% NEED TO APPEAL TO INDEPENDENTS.
% AND AT LEAST THIS MONTH IN THIS
% SAMPLE, TRUMP IS DOING
% NOTICEABLY WORSE WITH
% INDEPENDENTS THAN DeSANTIS IS.
% REMEMBER, WE ARE IN THE FIELD
% THE DAY AND FOLLOWING THE
% INDICTMENT OF TRUMP.
% DIDN'T HURT HIM WITH REPUBLICANS
% BUT IT MAY BE THAT THAT'S PART
% OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE
% INDEPENDENTS AND LOOKING AHEAD
% TO THE GENERAL.
% >> INTERESTING CONTEXT.
% SO AS FOR SITTING U.S. SENATOR
% TAMMY BALDWIN, ALSO UP FOR
% RE-ELECTION, HER FAVORABILITY
% RATING TICKED UP 3 POINTS FROM
% LAST OCTOBER, NOW SITTING AT 40
% PERCENT FAVORABLE, 37 PERCENT
% UNFAVORABLE BUT 22 PERCENT HAVE
% NOT HEARD ENOUGH ABOUT HER.
% SHE MUST STILL BE FORMIDABLE
% THOUGH BECAUSE NOBODY HAS
% FORMALLY DECLARED AGAINST HER.
% >> THAT'S RIGHT.
% THAT'S 22 PERCENT IS IN LINE
% WITH WHERE SHE HAS BEEN THE LAST
% TWO OR THREE YEARS.
% RON JOHNSON IS USUALLY IN THE
% 30s.
% THOUGH WHEN ELECTIONS COME YOU
% GET THAT NUMBER DOWN TO 10
% PERCENT THAT DON'T KNOW ENOUGH.
% IT'S A BIG ELECTION EFFECT.
% WHEN WE ASKED ABOUT FOUR
% POTENTIAL REPUBLICAN CHALLENGERS
% BETWEEN 50 AND 85 PERCENT DIDN'T
% KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT ANY OF THOSE.
% UNTIL SOMEBODY OFFICIALLY GETS
% IN AND THE RACE HEATS UP AND
% THEY'RE CAMPAIGNING, NO
% CHALLENGER IS GOING TO LOOK VERY
% GOOD ON THE NAME RECOGNITION
% SIDE AND IN PERSPECTIVE BALDWIN
% HAS A LITTLE ADVANTAGE OF BEING
% WELL KNOWN BUT THE CHALLENGERS
% WHEN THEY DO GET IN WILL BUILD
% RECOGNITION OVER THE NEXT 18
% MONTHS.%>> ALL RIGHT, CHARLE
S FRANK,
% THANKS VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> AS ALWAYS THERE'S A LOT GOING
% ON IN WISCONSIN FROM POLITICS TO
% POLICY.%TONIGHT WE CHECK IN
WITH OUR
% POLITICAL PANELIST REPUBLICAN
% BILL McCOSHEN AND DEMOCRAT SCOT
% ROSS.
% THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
% FIRST OFF WHAT IS YOUR BROAD
% TAKE ON THE LEGISLATURE'S STATE
% BUDGET JUST PASSED AND AWAITING
% THE GOVERNOR'S ACTION?
% IS IT WHAT YOU EXPECTED WITH A 7
% BILLION DOLLAR SURPLUS?
% >> I THINK IT'S A 7 BILLION
% DOLLAR WASTED OPPORTUNITY BY
% REPUBLICANS TO SUPPORT THINGS
% THAT ARE GOING TO HELP THE
% PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN, MEN, WOMEN,
% CHILDREN, THRIVE AND EXCEL.
% WE MISSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO END
% THE CRIMINAL ABORTION BAN.
% WE'RE GASHING THE UW SYSTEM.
% WE'RE NOT FULLY FUNDING PUBLIC
% EDUCATION.%LET'S JUST TALK AB
OUT CHILDCARE.
% WE'VE GOT CHILDCARE, THERE WAS
% AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE REAL
% CHILDCARE BUT INSTEAD WE'RE
% GIVING A TAX BREAK TO THE TOP 1
% PERCENT.
% 25,000 PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE
% 300 MILLION DOLLARS THAT COULD
% HAVE OTHERWISE PREVENTED 2500
% CHILDCARE FACILITIES FROM
% CLOSING THE NEXT COUPLE OF
% YEARS.
% IT'S JUST SHAMEFUL.
% >> I THINK VIEWERS SHOULD BE
% EXCITED ABOUT THIS BUDGET.
% THIS IS TONY'S THIRD BUDGETS
% WITH REPUBLICANS IN THE MAJORITY
% WHERE THEY HAVE GRAND BARGAINS
% ON KEY ISSUES.
% SHARED REVENUE, HISTORIC
% INCREASE IN FUNDING TO LOCAL
% GOVERNMENT, K-12 AND CHARTER
% SCHOOLS, ALL KIDS BENEFIT
% REGARDLESS OF WHICH CHOICE THEIR
% PARENTS MAKE FOR THEIR
% EDUCATION, HOUSING 500 MILLION
% DOLLARS, TO INCREASE THE HOUSING
% STOCK NOT ONLY IN URBAN BUT
% RURAL AREAS AS WELL.
% LITERACY, TRANSPORTATION, PAY
% RAISES FOR STATE EMPLOYEES.
% ALL OF THOSE THINGS THEY AGREED
% ON.
% THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S
% HAPPENED IN THE LAST THREE
% BUDGETS.
% I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO BE
% EXCITED ABOUT IN THIS BUDGET.
% >> WHAT DO YOU THINK THE
% GOVERNOR MIGHT DO?
% >> I TALKED TO SOMEBODY TODAY
% FROM THE EAST WING AND THEY SAID
% THE CHANCE OF VETOING THE ENTIRE
% BUDGET ARE FIFTY-FIFTY.
% IF NOT THEY'RE GOING TO LINE
% ITEM AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE
% AS THE GOVERNOR ALREADY STATED
% AND I THINK FOR GOOD REASON
% BECAUSE WE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES,
% HANDING OUT TOO MUCH MONEY TO
% PEOPLE.%>> WHAT WOULD HE BE
VETOING
% OVER?% >> THE TAX PLAN IN P
ARTICULAR.
% YOU SEE HOW MUCH MONEY THEY'RE
% WASTING.
% THE TOP 1 PERCENT IS TAKING AWAY
% 300 PLUS BILLION DOLLARS.
% IF YOU GET RID OF THAT TOP RATE
% IT'S 700 MILLION DOLLARS LOST
% THAT COULD BE INVESTED IN THINGS
% LIKE CHILDCARE.
% >> THREE CHOICES, SIGN IT IN
% TOTAL, HE WON'T DO THAT, VETO IT
% COMPLETELY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S
% REALISTIC, OR PARTIAL VETOES IS
% REALISTIC.%HIS STAFF INDICATE
D HE WILL USE
% IT AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
% THE REASON HE WON'T VETO THE
% WHOLE BILL, THE FUNDING IS IN
% THIS BILL.
% THE LIKELIHOOD OF A BETTER DEAL
% NEXT TIME AROUND IS ZERO.
% >>
% TO ELIMINATE UW DEI OFFICES.
% BUT WHAT'S NEXT IN THE REALM OF
% ABANDONING DIVERSITY, EQUITY,
% AND INCLUSION INITIATIVES IN
% WISCONSIN?%>> I DON'T THINK W
E'RE
% ABANDONING IT BUT I THINK MAYBE
% FINALLY WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE
% FOCUS WHERE IT BELONGS WHICH IS
% ON URBAN SCHOOLS.
% IF YOU WANT TO GIVE
% AFRICAN-AMERICAN KIDS A BETTER
% OPPORTUNITY YOU HAVE TO TEACH
% THEM TO READ.
% WHEN 22 CAN READ AT GRADE LEVEL
% AND 80 PERCENT CAN'T, THE 80
% PERCENT IS NEVER GOING TO MAKE
% IT TO COLLEGE AND MORE LIKELY TO
% END UP IN PRISON.
% THAT HAS TO BE THE FOCUS IS
% MAKING SURE OUR URBAN SCHOOLS
% DELIVER THE KIND OF EDUCATION
% THOSE KIDS NEED AND THE TRUTH IS
% THE ONES WHO SUFFER THE MOST ARE
% ASIAN AMERICANS, NOT WHITES.
% >> I THINK IT'S DISGRACEFUL WHAT
% THE SUPREME COURT AND REPUBLICAN
% LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO DO.
% AGAIN, DIVERSITY IS WHAT MAKES
% WISCONSIN, WHAT MAKES THE
% UNIVERSITY OF WISCONSIN GREAT,
% AND STYMYING THAT BECAUSE YOU
% THINK IT PLAYS YOUR RACIST BASE
% IS NOT THE WAY TO GO.
% 34 MILLION DOLLARS CUT OUT OF
% UW.%SO A STUDENT WHO GRADUAT
ED FROM
% THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA GETS
% TO WALK AFTER FOUR YEARS ACROSS
% THE AISLE.
% A STUDENT AT THE UNIVERSITY OF
% WISCONSIN WILL HAVE TO STAY FIVE
% YEARS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET
% WHAT THEY NEED IN FOUR YEARS AS
% A RESULT.
% >> MY SON GRADUATED FROM MADISON
% IN MAY.
% I WAS AT THE GRADUATION
% CEREMONY.%FEWER THAN 200 AFR
ICAN-AMERICANS
% CROSSED THE STAGE OUT OF 8,000.
% >> WE HAVE TO DOUBLE DOWN AND
% NOT TAKE IT BACK.
% WHAT THE SUPREME COURT DID WAS
% DISGRACEFUL AND PROBABLY WAS THE
% WORST WEEK FOR THE SUPREME COURT
% OTHER THAN PLESSENGER VERSUS
% FERGUSON.%>> SPEAKING OF THE
SUPREME
% COURT, THEY TURNED BACK JOE
% BIDEN'S ACTION TO CANCEL STUDENT
% LOAN DEBT.
% WHAT IS THE COMPLIIMPLICATIONS?
% >> I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW
% PROVIDING ROBIN VOS WITH A
% 300,000 LOAN, HE'S A
% MULTI-MILLIONAIRE, HOW THAT
% HELPS THE ECONOMY, BUT FORGIVING
% 10,000 DOLLARS FOR NEARLY A
% MILLION STUDENT LOAN BORROW ERS
% WHO WILL PUT IT BACK IN THE
% ECONOMY HELPS OUR ECONOMY.
% IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
% AND THE PEOPLE WHO FINANCED THE
% LAWSUIT GOT A PPP LOAN.
% IT'S HYPOCRISY.
% >> I'M ONE OF SEVEN KIDS.
% THE NOTION THAT I WOULD GO TO A
% BIG TEN SCHOOL AND GET A DEGREE
% WAS UNTHINKABLE WHEN I WAS A
% KID, YET IT HAPPENED.
% WHY?
% I INVESTED IN MYSELF.
% I TOOK OUT STUDENT LOANS.
% I PAID THOSE BACK.
% I VIEWED IT AS AN INVESTMENT IN
% MYSELF AND I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO
% PAY FOR SOMEONE ELSE WHO MADE
% THAT SAME CHOICE.
% >> THAT'S THE ARGUMENT.
% >> WE SPENT THE MONEY, WE USED
% TO INVEST TEN CENTS OF EVERY GPR
% DOLLAR INTO HIGHER GENERAEDUCAT.
% IT'S DOWN TO TWO AND A HALF
% CENTS.
% I PAID STUDENT DEBT FOR 26
% YEARS.%I SUPPORT FORGIVING EV
ERY PENNY
% OF STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND MAKE IT
% FREE.%>> I WANT TO ASK YOU A
BOUT THE
% MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL POLL THAT
% SHOWED 66 PERCENT OF PEOPLE
% SURVEYED IN WISCONSIN THINK
% ABORTION SHOULD BE LEGAL IN ALL
% OR MOST CASES.
% HOW WILL THIS ISSUE CONTINUE TO
% INFORM THE UPCOMING ELECTIONS?
% >> THE SUPREME COURT OF
% WISCONSIN HAS A BIG SAY IN THAT
% WHETHER IT'S THE LAW OF THE LAND
% OR SOMETHING PASSED SUBSEQUENT
% TO THAT.
% SO WE'LL SEE.
% IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT THE CROSS
% TABS PEOPLE DON'T LIKE ABORTION
% UP UNTIL THE TIME OF BIRTH AND A
% LOT OF FOLKS DON'T SUPPORT ANY
% ABORTION AT ANY TIME.
% >> NOBODY'S HAVING ABORTIONS UP
% TO THE POINT OF BIRTH BUT I
% AGREE IT'S GOING TO BE A HUGE
% ISSUE.%I THINK IT'LL REIGN HU
GE IN
% RACES AND DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE
% RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.
% THE LESSON FROM THE POLL IS
% REPUBLICANS IF THEY ACTED MORE
% LIKE DEMOCRATS WITH THOSE ISSUES
% THEY MIGHT LOSE FEWER ELECTIONS.
% >> FOR MORE ON THIS AND OTHER
% ISSUES FACING WISCONSIN VISIT
% OUR WEBSITE AND PBS WISCONSIN
% DOT-ORG AND CLICK ON THE NEWS
% TAB.%THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR T
ONIGHT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.
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% WISCONSIN.