% >> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A
% PBS WISCONSIN ORIGINAL
% PRODUCTION.% >> IT'S THE LA
ST DAY OF SCHOOL
% FOR STUDENTS, BUT FOR EDUCATORS
% AND LAWMAKERS, THERE'S MORE WORK
% TO BE DONE.
% THE STATE LICENSING BACKLOG HAS
% IMPROVED, BUT REINFORCEMENTS ARE
% STILL NEEDED, AND THE STATE'S
% PRIDE MONTH KICKS OFF AT THE
% CAPITOL.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW," STATE
% READING SCORES LEAD TO A RENEWED
% EMPHASIS ON PHONICS, AND
% LOW-PERFORMING DISTRICTS COULD
% BE LIMITED FROM REQUESTING NOW
% CAPITAL.%ZAC SCHULTZ REPORTS
ON ITS
% BOTTLENECKS AT THE STATE
% LICENSING AGENCY AND A PREVIEW
% OF WISCONSIN PRIDE, A PBS
% WISCONSIN DOCUMENTARY ON LGBTQ
% TRAILBLAZERS.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR JUNE 2.
% >> FUNDING IS PROVIDED BY THE
% FOCUS FUND FOR JOURNALISM AND
% FRIENDS OF PBS WISCONSIN.
% >> THE STATE LEGISLATURE IS
% CONSIDERING A BILL PROMOTING
% TEACHING CHILDREN TO READ WITH
% PHONICS.
% THAT'S WHERE STUDENTS LEARN TO
% BLEND LETTERS OR GROUPS OF
% LETTERS WITH THE SOUNDS THEY
% MAKE.
% A TRAINING TAPE FROM THE
% DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION
% SHOWS HOW PHONICS WORKS IN
% PRACTICE.
% >> "YOU" H YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DN
% AMAZING JOB BLENDING THOSE
% SOUNDS TOGETHER TO READ THE
% WORDS.
% >> CAN WE FIX.
% FIT IS ONE OF THE WORDS WE
% PRACTICED BLENDING THIS WEEK.
% FIT.
% >> COMPONENTS OF THE BILL WOULD
% SCREEN FOR READING SKILLS
% STARTING IN KINDERGARTEN.
% ADD NEW PHONICS-BASED
% CURRICULUM, TRAIN TEACHERS OR
% THAT CURRICULUM AND DEPLOY
% READING COACHES, ESPECIALLY TO
% STRUGGLING SCHOOLS.
% THE DISCUSSION COMES AS JUST 37%
% OF THIRD THROUGH EIGHTH GRADE
% READERS IN WISCONSIN WERE RATED
% PROFICIENT OR ADVANCED IN 2022,
% AND JUST 14% TESTED AT THOSE
% LEVELS IN MILWAUKEE PUBLIC
% SCHOOLS.
% BILL AUTHOR REPRESENTATIVE JOEL
% KITCHEN SAYS THIS CHANGE IS
% NEEDED NOW.
% >> WISCONSIN ALWAYS HAD A GREAT
% TRADITION OF BEING A LEADER AND
% NOW, WE ARE NOT ANYMORE.
% SO I THINK IT'S PAST TIME.
% WHENEVER YOU CHANGE THINGS, AND
% ESPECIALLY IN EDUCATION, THEY
% DON'T WANT TO BE TOLD BY
% POLITICIANS ESPECIALLY HOW THEY
% SHOULD BE TEACHING IN THE
% CLASSROOM, WHICH IS WHY WE
% REALLY NEEDED D.P. D.P.I. TO BUO
% THIS.%IT'S A BILL THAT IT'S
REALLY
% IMPORTANT AND I THINK WILL HAVE
% BROAD SUPPORT AND I THINK IT IS
% NICE THAT THIS SESSION WE ARE
% GETTING MORE -- WE'RE
% NEGOTIATING MORE, CERTAINLY,
% THAN WE DID DURING THE FIRST
% TERM, AND IT'S TOUGH FOR PEOPLE
% TO TRUST THE OTHER SIDE AND TO
% TRUST D.P.I.
% WHEN YOU ASK ABOUT PUSH-BACK,
% THAT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST
% PUSH-BACK, ON MY SIDE NOT
% TRUSTING D.P.I. TO FOLLOW
% THROUGH, BUT THEY HAVE TO BE
% INVOLVED.
% INITIALLY, WE WERE NOT GOING TO
% BE INVESTING IN THE CURRICULUM
% VERY MUCH AND THAT WILL PRETTY
% MUCH WE'RE GOING TO BUY THE
% CURRICULUM, SO THERE'S A PRETTY
% BIG EXPENSE.
% WE'RE GOING TO PAY FOR THE
% TRAINING.%SO IT IS GOING TO
BE A BIGGER
% FISCAL IMPACT THAN WE ORIGINALLY
% THOUGHT, BUT THANKFULLY THE
% LEADERS IN MY CAUCUS HAVE
% RECOGNIZED THAT REALLY IN
% EDUCATION, WHAT CAN BE MORE
% IMPORTANT THAN TEACHING KIDS TO
% READ.
% BUDGETS ARE REALLY TIGHT FOR
% SOME OF THESE DISTRICTS, IT'S
% GOING TO BE TOUGHER FOR THEM TO
% DO IT, BUT AGAIN, I THINK THIS
% IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I'VE
% EVER WORKED ON IN THE CAPITOL
% AND I THINK, AGAIN, WHAT COULD
% BE MORE IMPORTANT.
% IF WE DON'T TEACH KIDS TO READ
% EARLY, IT JUST SO HANDICAPS THEM
% FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES.
% >> WE'RE JOINED BY RICH
% HALVERSON, PROFESSOR AT THE UW
% MADISON SCHOOL OF EDUCATION IS
% FOR MORE ON HOW READING IS
% TAUGHT.%THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
% >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
% >> SO IF WE NEED A LEGISLATIVE
% BILL TO REINTRODUCE PHONICS,
% WHAT HAPPENED TO IT?
% WHEN DID IT FADE FROM FASHION?
% >> WELL, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVER
% REALLY FADED FROM FASHION.
% IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PART OF
% LITERACY INSTRUCTION.
% I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS DURING
% COVID TIME, THERE'S PART OF
% LEARNING TO READ AND TEACHING
% READING THAT'S PRETTY TECHNICAL
% THAT REQUIRES A LOT OF SKILL ON
% THE PART OF TEACHERS AND THEN
% THERE'S PART THAT RELIES ON
% USAGE AND HAVING KIDS BE ABLE TO
% EXPRESS THEMSELVES, AND I THINK
% THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED
% DURING COVID TIME IS THAT THE
% TECHNICAL PARTS OF READING THAT
% REQUIRE A LOT OF ONE-ON-ONE
% INTERACTION BETWEEN TEACHERS AND
% YOUNG READERS, THAT'S WHAT FELL
% APART, AND I THINK WE'RE SEEING
% THAT IN OUR TEST SCORES AND I
% THINK THE FOCUS ON BRINGING
% PHONICS BACK TO THE FOREFRONT OF
% OUR INSTRUCTIONAL PROGRAM IS
% REALLY IMPORTANT.
% >> SO WHICH IS BETTER?
% WHAT'S CALLED THIS SCIENCE OF
% READING OR PHONICS OR THE
% TECHNICAL ASPECTS, AS YOU REGARD
% IT?
% OR BALANCED LITERACY, SOMETHING
% I'VE READ ABOUT, WHICH PERHAPS
% HAS LESS EMPHASIS ON PHONICS?
% >> WELL, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
% TO UNDERSTAND THAT READING IS
% PART OF BECOMING A LITERATE
% PERSON.
% SO IN ORDER TO BE LITERATE IN
% SOCIETY, YOU HAVE TO LEARN TO
% DECODE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE
% VOCABULARY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE
% TO INTERACT WITH FOLKS, AND PART
% OF THE LEARNING TO READ PART IS
% THAT TECHNICAL ASPECT OF
% UNDERSTANDING LETTER PATTERNS,
% UNDERSTANDING HOW THEY FIT
% TOGETHER, UNDERSTANDING
% VOCABULARY.%I THINK OF THIS
A LOT LIKE
% LEARNING TO DRIVE.
% SO SOME YOUNG PEOPLE COME TO
% THEIR DRIVING LESSONS, THEY KNOW
% HOW TO DRIVE AND NEED PATRIARCHS
% BUT SOME PEOPLE REALLY RELY ON
% THE TECHNICAL SKILLS THAT
% DRIVING INSTRUCTORS GIVE IN
% ORDER TO LEARN THE RULES OF THE
% ROAD, TO LEARN HOW TO INTERACTED
% WITH OTHER DRIVERS, AND THAT'S I
% THINK THE ROLE THAT PHONICS
% PLAYS IN OUR READING CURRICULUM.
% >> AND YOU'VE SAID THAT PEOPLE
% WHO HAVE LEARNED TO READ WITH
% THESE TECHNICAL SKILLS, PHONICS,
% TEST BETTER.
% >> WELL, THE TESTS THAT WE HAVE
% ARE -- THAT WE HOLD AS IMPORTANT
% ARE THIRD GRADE READING TESTS.
% THEY REALLY FOCUS ON THE KINDS
% OF SKILLS THAT PHONICS TEACHES.
% SO THERE'S A TRANSITION THAT
% HAPPENS IN LITERACY FROM
% LEARNING TO READ TO READING TO
% LEARN, AND THAT HAPPENS AROUND
% THE FOURTH OR FIFTH GRADE, WHERE
% THEN YOU TAKE YOUR TECHNICAL
% SKILLS AND YOU USE THEM TO
% EXPLORE OTHER DOMAINS, AND WHAT
% WE REALLY NEED IS YOUNG PEOPLE
% WHO CAN MASTER THOSE TECHNICAL
% SKILLS SO THEY CAN GO ON TO
% APPLY THEIR READING SKILLS TO
% BECOME MORE LITERATE FOLKS.
% >> BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T READ
% BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LEARNED
% THOSE TECHNICAL SKILLS, YOU KIND
% OF CAN'T DEVELOP A LOVE OF
% READING, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE
% ARE LOOKING FOR.
% RIGHT?
% >> I THINK THAT'S RIGHT.
% I THINK THE DRIVING ANALOGY IS
% REALLY PERFECT HERE.
% LIKE YOU CAN LEARN THE RULES OF
% THE ROAD DOWN THE ROAD, SO TO
% SPEAK, BY DRIVING AND THEN
% MISTAKING MISTAKES, BUT IT'S
% BETTER TO HAVE AS A SENSE OF HOW
% THINGS ARE CONSTRUCTED ON THE
% ROAD, WHAT IS GOOD BEHAVIOR ON
% THE ROAD, AND I THINK THAT'S
% WHAT THE BASIC SKILLS FOR
% READING REALLY HELP YOUNG PEOPLE
% DEVELOP.%>> AND SO IF YOU AR
E A
% KINDERGARTENER OR A FIRST GRADER
% AND YOU ARE BEING TAUGHT WITH
% PHONICS THESE TECHNICAL SKILLS,
% I THINK YOU CALLED IT DECODING,
% IS IT SINGULAR TO THAT?
% OR IS OTHER STUFF KIND OF
% INTRODUCED AT THE SAME TIME TO
% DEVELOP THIS KIND OF BROADER
% RANGE OF LITERACY.
% >> WELL, MOST PEOPLE WHO TALK
% ABOUT THE SCIENCE OF READING,
% THERE'S NINE DIFFERENT PARTS OF
% IT.
% THERE'S VOCABULARY DEVELOPMENT,
% THERE'S PATTERN RECOGNITION,
% THERE'S SYMBOL DECODING AND THEN
% THERE'S USAGE AND THEN THERE'S
% THE PRIOR KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU
% BRING TO YOUR ABILITY TO
% INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE, AND
% I THINK IN KINDERGARTEN AND IN
% FIRST GRADE, THE SCIENCE OF
% READING APPROACH REALLY FOCUSES
% ON SOME OF THOSE MORE TECHNICAL
% SKILLS TO PREPARE YOUNG PEOPLE
% FOR THE USAGE-BASED SKILLS,
% COMPREHENSION-BASED SKILLS.
% >> EXP AND ARE WE SAYING THAT NW
% THAT HAS FALLEN OFF THE TABLE
% FOR TEACHERS BECAUSE OF THE
% PANDEMIC?%>> I THINK THAT TH
E IDEA OF
% BALANCED LITERACY IS IMPORTANT
% FOR A SCHOOL.
% A SCHOOL NEEDS TO HAVE
% INSTRUCTORS THAT CAN REALLY WORK
% ON THE TECHNICAL SKILLS WITH
% YOUNG PEOPLE, BUT ALSO REALLY
% WORK ON USAGE AND DEVELOPING A
% LOVE OF READING, AND SO YOU HAVE
% TO HAVE A SCHOOL THAT HAS SKILL
% IN ALL THOSE AREAS, AND I THINK
% WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS IT BRINGS
% RESOURCES INTO SCHOOLS TO
% BOLSTER THEIR ABILITY TO PREPARE
% TEACHERS TO USE THOSE TECHNICAL
% SCHOOLS WITH YOUNG PEOPLE.
% >> LOOKING AT WISCONSIN TEST
% SCORES, THERE ARE MAJOR GAPS
% BETWEEN WHITE AND BLACK
% STUDENTS.%HOW ARE THOSE GAPS
, THOUGH,
% ABOUT MORE THAN HOW READING IS
% TAUGHT IN GRADE SCHOOL?
% >> WELL, READING IS A CORE
% ASPECT OF THE SKILLS THAT ARE
% IMPORTANT ON STANDARDIZED TESTS.
% IF YOU CAN'T INTERPRET AND
% DECODE THE TEST, IT'S VERY
% DIFFICULT TO DO -- HAVE AN
% EFFECTIVE RESULT SO IT'S REALLY
% IMPORTANT THAT ALL OF THE
% CHILDREN IN WISCONSIN ACQUIRE
% THOSE BASIC READING SKILLS.
% HOWEVER, THE TESTS ARE ONE
% MEASURE OF HOW YOUNG PEOPLE
% INTERACT IN THE WORLD.
% THERE'S THEIR ABILITY TO MIKE
% THINGS, THEIR ABILITY TO EXPRESS
% THEMSELVES, THEIR ABILITY TO
% ENGAGE IN POLITICAL DISCOURSE,
% IN INTERACTION WITH ONE ANOTHER.
% ALL OF THOSE ARE IMPORTANTLY
% INDICATORS AS WELL.
% SO I THINK WHILE IT'S IMPORTANT
% FOR US TO LOOK AT THE TEST
% SCORES, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL
% NOT TO EXCLUSIVELY FOCUS ON TEST
% SCORES AND TEST CORE GAPS WHEN
% WE MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF
% EDUCATION.%THE IMPORTANT THIN
G TO REMEMBER
% IS THAT TEST SCORES LARGELY
% REFLECT SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS.
% SO THEY REFLECT THE SKILLS AND
% THE ABILITIES TO PARTICIPATE IN
% SCHOOL THAT YOUNG PEOPLE BRING
% INTO THE SCHOOL AND SO WE HAVE
% TO ALSO THINK ABOUT HOW OUR
% SCHOOLS HELP KIDS WHO DON'T HAVE
% THOSE SKILLS COMING IN TO
% ACQUIRE THEM SO THEY CAN BE
% SUCCESSFUL IN SCHOOLS.
% >> RICH HALVERSON, THANKS VERY
% MUCH.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> DISTRICTS ACROSS WISCONSIN
% ARE INCREASINGLY RELYING ON
% VOTERS TO APPROVE ADDITIONAL
% FUNDING FOR THEIR SCHOOLS
% BECAUSE OF STRICT REVENUE LIMITS
% AND STAGNANT STATE FUNDING.
% OVER THE LAST THREE ELECTIONS,
% THERE WERE 249 REFERENDUM ON
% LOCAL BALLOTS SEEKING TENS OF
% MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, 179 OF THEM
% PASSED.
% NOW, A NEW LEGISLATIVE BILL
% WOULD PROHIBIT A SCHOOL BOARD
% FROM GOING TO REFERENDUM FOR
% BORROWING OTHER THAN FOR
% MAINTENANCE EXPENSES IF THE
% DISTRICT HAS LOW READING AND
% MATH TEST SCORES.
% FOR LARGER DISTRICTS, THE SCORES
% COULD BE NO LOWER THAN 60 OUT OF
% 100.
% FOR SMALLER DISTRICTS, NO LOWER
% THAN 50.
% THE SMALL DISTRICT OF TRI-COUNTY
% IN PLAINFIELD, WHICH HAS FEWER
% THAN 600 STUDENTS, WENT TO
% REFERENDUM THIS SPRING FOR $1.45
% MILLION.%IT PASSED.
% BUT TRI-COUNTY IS RIGHT ON THE
% CUSP OF THE TEST SCORE CUT-OFF.
% WE CHECK IN WITH ITS
% SUPERINTENDENT ABOUT HIS TAKE ON
% THE PROPOSED BILL AND THE NEEDS
% OF HIS DISTRICT.
% JAMIE DELKOWSKI JOINS US.
% >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.%
>> WHAT IS YOUR TAKE ON THE
% PROPOSED BILL PROHIBITING
% REFERENDUM AND THEN TYING IT TO
% TEST SCORES?
% >> HONESTLY, FREDERICA, IT'S A
% LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR ME TO
% UNDERSTAND.
% IN OUR DISTRICT, A RECENTLY
% DOCUMENT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE
% FISCAL BUREAU SHOWED THAT OUR
% DISTRICT, OUT OF 421 DISTRICTS
% IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, HAS
% ONE OF THE LOWEST REVENUE LIMITS
% PER STUDENT IN THE STATE.
% WE'RE ABOUT TENTH FROM THE
% BOTTOM, WHICH MEANS THAT I GET
% ABOUT $10,149 PER STUDENT, WHERE
% MY NEIGHBOR 20 MILES DOWN THE
% ROAD GETS CLOSER $13,000 PER
% STUDENT.
% WHY IS THAT?
% BECAUSE THEY PATH REFERENDUM.
% THEY'VE GONE TO THEIR TAXPAYER
% AND ASKED FOR THAT SUPPORT.
% IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO UNDERSTAND
% HOW, WHEN WE ARE ASKED TO BUILD
% THE SAME PRODUCT, THE SAME
% SUCCESSFUL STUDENT WITH FAR LESS
% DOLLARS PER STUDENT, WHY THEY
% WOULD WANT TO LIMIT US IN THIS
% WAY.
% IT KIND OF JUST MAKES SENSE TO
% ME, FREDERICA, THAT IF YOU'RE
% LIMITING OUR REVENUES EVEN
% FURTHER, IT'S DIFFICULT TO
% EXPECT A MORE SUCCESSFUL
% PRODUCT, AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN
% VERY DETRIMENTAL FOR US.
% >> BECAUSE YOU'RE MOST RECENT
% TEST SCORES SIT AT 50.3 OUT OF
% THAT 100, ACCORDING TO THE
% D.P.I.%DO YOU VIEW THIS KIND
OF TEST
% SCORE CUT-OFF AS MORE OF AN
% INCENTIVE TO BOOST THOSE?
% OR MORE PUNISHMENT?
% >> OH, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
% JUST OFF THE CUFF, IT I.E.D.
% FEELS MORE LIKE A PUNISHMENT TO
% US.%I MEAN, LET'S BE HONEST.
% WE WANT HIGHER TEST SCORES.
% WE WANT OUR STUDENTS TO SUCCEED.
% AND ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT
% STATE TESTING, IT DOESN'T
% MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF OUR
% DISTRICT IN EVERY WAY.
% WE HAVE ONE OF THE MOST
% SUCCESSFUL DISTRICTS AS FAR AS
% DIVERSITY IS CONCERNED IN THE
% STATE OF WISCONSIN.
% IT IS EXTREMELY RARE TO HAVE A
% DISTRICT WITH 30 TO 35% FIRST
% AND SECOND GENERATION LATINO AND
% HISPANIC IMMIGRANTS THAT ARE
% EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL SOCIALLY.
% SUCCESSFUL ACADEMICALLY.
% I MEAN, OUR GRADUATES ARE GOING
% TO UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO,
% UNIVERSITY OF MADISON.
% WE HAVE OVER HALF A MILLION
% DOLLARS A YEAR IN DONORS WHO
% SUPPORT OUR CHILDREN GOING OFF
% TO FOUR AND TWO-YEAR COLLEGES.
% IT'S AMAZING, BUT IT DOESN'T
% SHOW IN OUR TEST SCORES, AND NOW
% THAT WE'VE PASSED THE
% REFERENDUM, A REFERENDUM THAT
% HAS NEVER PASSED IN OUR DISTRICT
% BEFORE, WE'RE ABLE TO PURCHASE
% THE MORE MODERN CURRICULUMS IN
% MATH AND READING THAT OUR
% DISTRICT NEEDS TO BRING THOSE
% TEST SCORES UP.
% >> I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHY DID
% YOUR DISTRICT GOES TO
% REFERENDUM?%WHY DID YOU NEED
THE $1.45
% MILLION THAT WAS PASSED?
% >> YEAH, AND THE ANSWER IS, TO
% SUPPORT THE GROWTH OF OUR
% STUDENTS AND THE SUCCESS OF OUR
% STUDENTS.%WE HAVE -- MY BOIL
ER, MY HEATING
% SYSTEM IS NEARLY 70 YEARS OLD.
% OUR ROOF THAT IS SUPPOSED TO
% LAST 10 TO 15 YEARS IS IN ITS
% 32nd YEAR.
% WE HAVEN'T BEEN FRIVOLOUS WITH
% OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
% WE'VE BEEN EXTREMELY COGNIZANT
% OF BEING CAREFUL WITH OUR
% COMMUNITY FUNDS, BUT WE'VE ALSO
% HAD TO SAY, LET'S WAIT ON THAT
% LATEST AND GREATEST MATH CRICK,
% LET'S HOLD OFF ON THE NEWEST
% READING CURRICULUM BECAUSE WE
% DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO IT
% THE STATE SET UP A SYSTEM IN THE
% EARLY '90s IN WHICH THEY SAID
% SCOOKS SCHOOL BOARDS CAN NO LONR
% SIMPLY RAISE THE REVENUE LIMIT
% PER STUDENT.
% THEY MADE A FAIR ASSESSMENT.
% YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT YOU NEED TO
% GO TO EVERY TAXPAYER.
% THAT'S CALLED A REFERENDUM.
% THIS DISTRICT DIDN'T DO THAT FOR
% 30 SOME YEARS, BUT WHEN WE DID,
% OUR COMMUNITY SAID "YES," WE
% WANT THAT FOR OUR STUDENTS AND
% WE UNDERSTAND OUR TAXES ARE
% GOING TO GO UP FOR IT.
% I CAN'T THINK OF -- I CAN THINK
% OF SEVERAL WAYS THAT MIGHT BE
% MORE FAIR WHEN ONE DISTRICT GETS
% 20% MORE THAN ANOTHER DISTRICT
% IN THE STATES OF WISCONSIN TO
% BUILD THE SAME PRODUCT, BUT WE
% NEEDED THIS MONEY, WE HAD A
% 950,000-DOLLAR DEFICIT ON A
% 10-MILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET.
% THIS YEAR THAT WE CUT DOWN BY
% INCREASING COLLABORA CLASS SIZET
% REPLACING RETIRING STAFF.
% IF WE HAD NOT PASSED THIS
% REGISTERED SEX OFREGISTEREDCOMMF
% GENERATIONS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
% SURVIVE FOR MORE THAN PROBABLY
% ABOUT A YEAR TO TWO YEARS, HAD
% WE NOT HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY.
% >> WITH LESS THAN A MINUTE LEFT,
% ASIDE FROM THE MONEY RAISED FROM
% THE REFERENDUM, HOW OPTIMISTIC
% ARE YOU THAT BUDGET RIDERS WILL
% BOOST K THROUGH 12 FUNDING TO
% HELP GOING FORWARD?
% >> WELL, AFTER THE LAST FEW
% YEARS, MY OPTIMISM IS WANING.
% WE'RE VERY HOPEFUL THAT THE
% BUDGET MODELS IS THAT HELP US
% RECOVER FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS
% OF ZERO DOLLARS PER YEAR IN THE
% LAST BIENNIUM FOR SCHOOLS, WE'RE
% HOPING AND PRAYING THAT THERE
% WILL NOT ONLY BE AN ASSESSMENT
% THAT IS FAIR FOR THIS YEAR BUT
% HELPS US RECOVER FOR THOSE LAST
% TWO YEARS.
% AND LISTEN, FREDERICA.
% WE PATH A REFERENDUM.
% WE'RE A SMALL RURAL AGRICULTURAL
% DISTRICT.%WE WENT TO OUR TAX
PAYERS AND
% HONESTLY TOLD THEM, WE'RE NOT
% GOING FOR A FOOTBALL STADIUM.
% WE ARE LITERALLY MAKING UP A
% LITTLE BIT OF LOSS, BUT WE ARE
% VERY HOPEFUL THAT THE
% LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR
% WILL SEE THE NEEDS OF THE
% SCHOOLS.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% WE LEAVE IT THERE.
% THANKS VERY MUCH.
% >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
% >> NEXT WEEK, REPUBLICANS ON THE
% JOINT FINANCE COMMITTEE WILL
% TAKE UP BUDGET PLANS FOR THE
% DEPARTMENT OF SAFETY AND
% PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
% THE AGENCY THAT GARNERED
% HEADLINES DURING COVID FOR LONG
% DELAYS IN ISSUING PROFESSOR
% LICENSES TO WORKERS.
% REVENUE FOR D.S.P.S. COMES
% ENTIERLT FROM THE FEES PAID --
% ENSTYLER FROM THE FEES PAID FOR
% SERVICES, BUT IN THE PAST,
% REPUBLICANS HAVE SIPHONED OFF
% SOME OF THOSE DOLLARS INTO THE
% STATE'S HISTORIC SURPLUS, AND
% DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
% HAS REQUESTED THE AGENCY BE
% ALLOWED TO KEEP AWESOME THEIR
% FEE REVENUE AND USE IT TO HIRE
% ADDITIONAL WORKERS TO SPEED UP
% THE PROCESS, AN EXTRA $12
% MILLION TO HIRE 80 EMPLOYEES.
% NEARLY HALF OF WHICH WOULD BE
% HIRED FOR THE CALL CENTER TO
% PROCESS CREDENTIALS.
% "HERE AND NOW" SENIOR POLITICAL
% REPORTER ZAC SCHULTZ HAS THE
% STORY.
% >> DAN HERETH WOULD LIKE HIS
% STATE AGENCY TO BE LESS VISIBLE
% EXPERCHTION THE WAY TO DO THAT
% IS TO SHOW UP MORE OFTEN.
% >> LET'S JUST START OFF WITH
% SOME INTRODUCTIONS.
% >> WE'VE BEEN DOING ROUND TABLES
% ALL OVER THE STATE.
% I THINK WE'VE DONE NEARLY A
% DOZEN.
% >> HE IS THE DESIGNEE OF
% DEPARTMENT OF PROFESSIONAL
% SERVICES, OR D.S.P.S.
% FOR THE FIRST 10 YEARS OF ITS
% EXISTENCE, THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO
% THOUGHT ABOUT IT WERE THE
% WORKERS THAT NEEDED TO SEND IN
% THEIR C.D.C. TO BECOME
% PROFESSIONALLY LICENSED IN
% WISCONSIN, EVERYONE FROM
% ACCOUNTANTS TO WELDERS, NURSES,
% BASHBARBERS AND NURSES.
% >> YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHO WE WERE
% AND THAT'S HOW WE LIKE IT.
% >> BUT THE PANDEMIC EXPOSED THE
% FAULTS IN THE OLD LICENSING
% PROCESS AND SENT CHAOS INTO
% PLACES LIKE THE HEALTHCARE
% INDUSTRY, WHERE NEARLY HALF OF
% ALL WORKERS NEED SOME SORT OF
% PROFESSIONAL LICENSE SPERRAZZA
% WE WERE EXPERIENCING DELAYS
% ABOUT AID YEAR AGO THAT WERE AT
% LEAST TAKING SIX MONTHS TO 12
% MONTHS BEFORE THEY WERE
% RECEIVING THEIR WISCONSIN
% LICENSE.
% >> JENNIFER WATERS-PLEMON WORKS
% IN BEAVER DAM.
% SHE'S THE ASSISTANT MANAGER OF
% RECRUITMENT FOR ADVANCED
% PRACTICE CLINICIANS, SO SHE FELT
% IT WHEN TRYING TO GET NEW HIRES
% LICENSED DURING A PANDEMIC.
% >> WITH COVID, WE HAD MORE
% PEOPLE COMING IN HERE THAT WE
% NEEDED THEM TO HAVE A LICENSE
% YESTERDAY, SO I THINK THAT
% DEFINITELY IMPACTED WHY IT TOOK
% A LONGER PROCESS FOR WISCONSIN
% LICENSE.%>> WITH NEW STATE EM
PLOYEES
% TRYING TO WORK REMOTELY, AN
% INFLUX OF NEW LICENSE REQUESTS
% AND AN OUTDATED SYSTEM THAT
% RELIED ON FAX MACHINES AND PAPER
% COPIES, IT'S IS NO SURPRISE
% THERE WAS A SURGE IN STORIES
% ABOUT THE DELAYS.ú>> FRUSTRATIOG
% POINT.
% >> I CALLED THE D.S.P.S. AT
% LEAST ONCE A WEEK, ON HOLD FOR
% AN HOUR OR LONGER.
% >> SHE FINALLY GOT HER LICENSE
% SIX MONTHS AFTER BICYCLE.
% >> IT WAS KILLING SOME OF THESE
% RADIOLOGY DEPARTMENTS.
% >> IMREAND GRISWOLD SERVES ON A
% COMMITTEE FOR THE WISCONSIN
% SOCIETY OF RADIOLOGICAL
% TECHNOLOGISTS.
% HE SAYS MOST NEW TECHNICIANS
% GRADUATE IN MAY AND USED TO BE
% ABLE TO GET THEIR STATE LICENSE
% SHORTLY AFTER PASSING A NATIONAL
% EXAM.%INSTEAD OF TURNING IT
AROUND IN
% 15 TO 25 DAYS, SOME OF THESE
% GRADUATES WERE WAITING UPWARDS
% OF 90 TO 120 DAYS UPON
% GRADUATION.
% >> THE ISSUE BECAME POLITICAL
% WITH REPUBLICANS BLAMING
% GOVERNOR TONY EVERS FOR NOT
% SENDING STATE EMPLOYEES BACK TO
% THE OFFICE, AND DEMOCRATS
% BLAMING REPUBLICANS FOR
% UNDERSTAFUNDERSTAFFING THE AGEN.
% >> THE GOVERNOR NEEDS TO FIX
% THAT AGENCY.
% IT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE, THE
% AMOUNT OF TIME PEOPLE ARE
% WAITING FOR LICENSES.
% UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE BEEN KIND
% OF HAMSTRUNG BY LEGISLATION IN
% THE PAST WHERE IT GINT ALLOW TO
% US LOW-LYING AREA MORE PEOPLE.
% >> I'M SPEAKING FOR RAIDOLOGY,
% BUT I THINK I CAN SPEAK FOR
% ANYBODY ELSE.
% >> HE ATTENDED A BUDGET MEETING
% LAST NOVEMBER WHERE THE GOVERNOR
% AND STAFF WERE ON HAND TO TAKE
% NOTES EXPERT LICENSING PROCESS
% IN WISCONSIN IS JUST SIMPLY
% CONFOUNDED.% SO IF YOU DIDN
'T GET A MESSAGE
% TO THE LEGISLATURE, I NOTICE
% THAT THE GOVERNOR IS SITTING
% THERE LISTENING.
% >> BY THAT POINT, TO THE EAST OF
% US HAD ALREADY CHANGED
% LEADERSHIP AT D.S.P.S.,
% APPOINTING DAN HERETH TO SPEED
% UP THE PROCESS.
% >> TECHNOLOGY IS SAY BIG PART OF
% OUR STORY AND SUCCESS.
% >> D.S.P.S. INTRODUCED A NEW WEB
% PLATFORM AND HERETH SAYS ROUND
% TABLES HAVE LED TO CHANGES IN
% THE SYSTEM.
% >> THERE HAVE BEEN REALLY
% INTERESTING INSTANCES WHERE,
% WITHIN A MATTER OF WEEKS, WE'VE
% BEEN ABLE TO TAKE IDEAS AND
% EITHER AUGMENT EXISTING
% SOLUTIONS OR CREATE NEW
% SOLUTIONS.
% >> JENNIFER WATERS PLEMON SAYS
% THE NEW SYSTEM ALLOWS EMPLOYERS
% AND APPLICANTS TO MONITOR THE
% LICENSING PROCESS.
% BECAUSE IN THE OLD SYSTEM, A LOT
% OF DELAYS WERE CAUSED BY MISSING
% PAPERWORK.
% >> THEY WOULD TELL US THAT THEY
% HAVE SUBMITTED EVERYTHING AND WE
% COULDN'T CHECK TO VERIFY IF THEY
% HAVE OR HAVE NOT SUBMITTED THAT
% SO NOW HAVING THAT TRANSPARENCY
% WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO SEE THAT WAS
% SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT TO US
% TO VERIFY THAT THEY SHOULD BE
% RECEIVING THEIR LICENSE MORE
% TIMELY.
% >> RANDY GRISWOLD SAYS HE'S
% HEARD OF IMPROVEMENTS IN HIS
% INDUSTRY AS WELL.
% >> THE TURNAROUND TIME, WHICH
% USED TO BE RUNNING INTO 90 DAYS,
% IS NOW BACK TO JUST UNDER 30
% DAYS NOW.
% SO THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER.
% >> BUT THAT'S NOT THE END FELT
% STORY FOR D.S.P.S.
% CHANGES IN THE WORKFORCE FROM
% BABY BOOMERS RETIRING AND AN
% INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF
% TRAVELING NURSES AND TECHNICIANS
% MEANS THEY WILL ALWAYS BE TESTED
% ON TURNAROUND TIME.
% >> THE CERTIFICATION PROCESS IN
% WISCONSIN, THE LICENSING PROCESS
% IN WISCONSIN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND
% THE DRAMATIC CHANGE I AND THE
% LABOR FORCE THAT'S COMING INTO
% IT RIGHT NOW AND IN THE FUTURE.
% >> WE'RE ISSUING MORE LICENSES
% MORE QUICKLY THAN AT ANY POINT
% IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS IN OUR
% AGENCY.%THAT'S AS FAR BACK A
S MY DATA
% GOES, BUT THAT'S NOT GOOD
% ENOUGH.
% THAT'S NOT HOW WISCONSIN WINS
% THE BATTLE FOR WORKERS
% THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND,
% QUITE FRANKLY, IN THE GLOBAL
% ECONOMY.
% >> REPORTING FROM BEAVER DAM,
% I'M ZAC SCHULTZ FOR "HERE AND
% NOW."
% >> TO MARK THE START OF PRIDE
% MONTH, GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
% THURSDAY RAISED THE PRIDE FLAG
% AT THE STATE CAPITOL.
% EVERS HAS FLOWN THE FLAG SINCE
% 2019.
% HE FIRST RAISED THE PROGRESS
% PRIDE FLAG CREATED TO SYMBOLIZE
% INCLUSION OF MARGINALIZED
% COMMUNITIES WITHIN THE LGBTQ
% COMMUNITY STARTING LAST YEAR.
% PBS WISCONSIN THIS MONTH ALSO
% PREMIERS A NEW DOCUMENTARY
% TITLED WISCONSIN PRIDE.
% THE TWO-HOUR PROGRAM PRODUCED BY
% ANDY SOUTH SHARES HIDDEN LGBTQ
% STORIES AND RECONSIDERS OUR
% STATE'S HISTORY IN THAT LIGHT.
% HERE'S AN EXCERPT.
% >> SCHOOL OF ART WAS STARTED BY
% TWO WOMEN IN 1920, MISS
% PARTRIDGE AND MISS FRANK.
% >> CHARLOTTE PARTRIDGE AND
% MIRIAM FRANK MET AT DOWNER
% COLLEGE FOR WOMEN IN MILWAUKEE
% IN 1915.
% HISTORICALLY, WOMEN'S COLLEGES
% WERE A PLACE WHERE ROMANTIC
% FEMALE RELATIONSHIPS COULD
% SAFELY THRIVE.
% FOR PARTRIDGE AND FRANK, THEIR
% LOVE AND COMMITMENT FOR EACH
% OTHER THRIVED FOR MORE THAN 50
% YEARS.
% >> CHARLOTTE PARTRIDGE WAS
% CHARISMATIC.% SHE WAS JUST S
ORT OF LOVEABLE.
% SHE SMILED A LOT.
% SHE WAS GREGARIOUS.
% MIRIAM FRANK, SHE WAS MUCH MORE
% SERIOUS AND LET CHARLOTTE BE THE
% FRONT PERSON.
% >> THE TWO MADE FRIENDS WITH
% MILWAUKEE BUSINESSMEN FREDERICK
% LAY TAN, THE MEAT PACKING
% MILLIONAIRE WHO WOULD OPEN THE
% LATEN GALLERY AND FILLED IT WITH
% GRAND WORKS PURCHASED ON HIS
% TRAVELS.%HE OFFERED THE GALLE
RY BASEMENT
% TO PARTRIDGE AND FRANK TO HOLD
% CLASSES, BUT THE ART THEY WOULD
% INSPIRE WOULD BE RADICALLY
% DIFFERENT FROM THE OLD WORKS
% THAT FILLED THE GALLERY'S WALLS.
% >> SHATTER PARTRIDGE AND MIRIAM
% FRANK WERE MORE ALIGNED WITH
% WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN TERMS OF
% THE EUROPEAN AVANT-GARDE.
% >> EUROPEAN AVANT-GARDE
% MOVEMENTS, LIKE CUBEISM AND
% DADAISM CHALLENGED ARTISTIC
% CONVENTIONS, SHOCKED SOME, AND
% SPOKE DEEPLY TO OTHERS.
% >> FOR CHARLOTTE PARTRIDGE AND
% MIRIAM FRANK, THEY BROUGHT THESE
% AVANT-GARDE IDEAS INTO THEIR
% TEACHING, INTO THEIR OWN ART
% COLLECTION IN THEIR HOME, AND
% EMBRACED IT.
% >> IN THE HOUSE THE COUPLE HAD
% DESIGNED AND BUILT TOGETHER,
% THEY HUNG MODERN WORKS OF ART,
% AT HOME AMONG BOLD, CREATIVE
% EXPRESSIONS.%>> THERE'S A PRE
TTY STRONG
% CONNECTION BETWEEN QUEER
% IDENTITY AND AVANT-GARDE
% MOVEMENTS.
% THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT GROWING
% UP KNOWING YOU'RE DIFFERENT FROM
% WHAT THE REST OF SOCIETY SAYS
% PEOPLE SHOULD BE, JUST MAKES YOU
% MORE OPEN TO NEW IDEAS.
% >> YOU CAN WATCH WISCONSIN PRIDE
% ON-LINE NOW ON OUR WEBSITE.
% IT'S BROADCAST PREMIER IS JUNE
% 20 AT 7:00 P.M. ON PBS WISCONSIN
% AND MILWAUKEE PBS, FOR
% ADDITIONAL NEWS COVERAGE, VISIT
% PBS WISCONSIN DOT-ORG/NEWS.
% THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR TONIGHT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND.
% (CLOSED CAPTIONING PROVIDED BY
% RIVERSIDE CAPTIONING COMPANY)
% >> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED BY THE FOCUS FUND FOR
% JOURNALISM AND FRIENDS OF PBS
% WISCONSIN.