% IT'S%FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A "
HERE & "
% 2022 ELECTION SPECIAL.
% >> GOOD EVENING.
% I'M ZAC SCHULTZ.
% TONIGHT.
% JUST AHEAD OF "HERE & NOW," WE
% BRING YOU A SPECIAL PROGRAM
% HIGHLIGHTING THE BIGGEST
% STATEWIDE RACES IN WISCONSIN.
% WE'RE ON THE TRAIL WITH THE
% CANDIDATES FOR THE U-S SENATE.
% WE'LL LOOK AT HOW EDUCATION IS
% SHAPING THE RACE FOR GOVERNOR.
% WHY THE RACE FOR ATTORNEY
% GENERAL IS ABOUT MORE THAN
% JUST LAW AND ORDER.
% AND WE HAVE A REPORT FROM
% MILWAUKEE PBS ON VOTING TRENDS
% IN SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN.
% FUNDING IS PROVIDED BY THE
% FOCUS FUND FOR JOURNALISM AND
% FRIENDS OF PBS WISCONSIN.
% IN JUST 11 DAYS, VOTERS WILL
% GO TO THE POLLS AND DECIDE
% WHAT THE FUTURE OF WISCONSIN
% GOVERNMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.
% DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
% SAYS HE HAS SPENT THE LAST
% FOUR YEARS PLAYING
% GOALIE.
% VETOING HUNREDS OF BILLS
% PASSED BY A
% REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED
% LEGISLATURE.
% IF HE WINS RE-ELECTION, HE CAN
% EXPECT MORE OF THE SAME IN HIS
% SECOND TERM, AS THE
% LEGISLATURE IS ALL BUT ASSURED
% TO REMAIN IN REPUBLICAN HANDS.
% IF REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER TIM
% MICHELS WINS, YOU CAN EXPECT A
% VERY DIFFERENT
% SCENARIO.
% AND HE HAS PROMISED TO, QUOTE,
% "TRANSFORM WISCONSIN FOR
% GENERATIONS TO COME."
% THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC EDUCATION
% IS AT STAKE IN THIS ELECTION,
% AS THE CANDIDATES HAVE
% VERY DIFFERENT VISIONS FOR HOW
% OUR SCHOOLS SHOULD OPERATE.
% >> WE ARE GOING TO START THE
% CRT AND GET BACK TO THE
% ABCs.%REPUBLICAN TIM MICHELS
'
% EDUCATION PLAN CAN BE REDUCED
% DOWN TO ONE LINE.
% AND HE SAYS IT IN EVERY
% SPEECH.
% WE ARE GOING TO STOP THE CRT
% AND GET BACK TO THE ABCS WE'LL
% STOP THE CRT AND GET BACK TO
% THE ABCs.
% >> GOVERNOR?
% >> CRT ARE NOT TAUGHT IN
% SCHOOLS AND ABCs ARE.
% MOST PARENTS TEACH ABCS AT
% HOME.%CRT IS SHORT FOR CRITI
CAL RACE% THEORY, A COLLEGE-LEVEL%
POLITICAL THEORY THAT USES
% RACE AS A LENS TO EXAMINE
% HISTORY.
% BUT IN POLITICAL DICOURSE,
% CRT HAS BECOME PART OF THE
% ONGOING CULTURE WARS THAT
% DRIVE REPUBLICAN TURNOUT AT
% THE POLLS.
% NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT THE
% ACRONYMS.
% LGBTQ AND CRT AND BLM.
% WHEN YOU START PICKING PEOPLE
% OUT, WHETHER IT'S BLACK KIDS
% BROWN KIDS, LGBTQ KIDS,
% WOKENESS.
% ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU DIVIDED
% EVERYBODY.
% AND NOW PEOPLE CAN GET EXCITED
% AND UPSET AND ANGRY.
% THAT DOES NOTHING FOR A
% CONVERSATION.
% AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY
% THAT HAS NEVER WALKED
% THROUGH A PUBLIC SCHOOL IN%TH
EIR LIFE.
% DEMOCRAT TONY EVERS IS
% COMFORTABLE IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS
% EVEN IF THE KIDS EXCUSE HIM
% FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
% YOU LOOK LIKE SOMEBODY I KNOW.
% GOVERNOR OF THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN%
ME ON TV.
% YOU LOOK LIKE JOE BIDEN.
% JOE BIDEN?
% WELL, THAT'S A COMPLIMENT.
% >> PRIOR TO BECOMING GOVERNOR,%
EVERS SPENT HIS ENTIRE CAREER
% IN EDUCATION, AS A TEACHER,
% ADMINISTRATOR, AND AS THE
% STATE SUPERINTENDENT.
% HE WANTS TO REINVEST MORE
% MONEY INTO PUBLIC SCHOOLS,
% PROPOSING $2 BILLION IN
% ADDITIONAL SPENDING IN THE
% NEXT BUDGET.
% >> WE NEED MORE RESOURCES FOR%
THEM.
% NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
% >> TIM MICHELS DID NOT AGREE
% TO AN INTERVIEW FOR THIS
% STORY, BUT HAS MADE HIS
% POSITIONS CLEAR IN NUMEROUS
% SPEECHES AND DEBATES.
% >> OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS
% BROKEN IN WISCONSIN.
% >> THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE
% ALREADY THROWING SO MUCH MONEY
% AT EDUCATION.
% THAT'S BEEN THE FIX FOR THE
% LAST 10, 20, 30 YEARS.
% MORE MONEY AT EDUCATION, AND
% IT'S NOT WORKING.
% THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
% WE'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.
% >> HIS SOLUTION IS WHAT HE%CA
LLS UNIVERSAL SCHOOL CHOICE.
% >> WE ARE GOING TO HAVE
% EDUCATION REFORM.
% WHAT ARE WE GOING TO%DO?
% UNIVERSAL SCHOOL CHOICE.
% >> HIS WEBSITE IS LIGHT ON
% SPECIFICS, BUT THE POLICY
% WOULD LIKELY LIFT THE
% ENROLLMENT AND INCOME CAPS ON
% THE CURRENT VOUCHER PROGRAMS.
% ALLOWING WEALTHY FAMILIES TO
% USE TAX DOLLARS TO PAY PRIVATE
% SCHOOL TUITION.
% EVERS SAYS THE PROBLEM IS WHEN
% VOUCHER DOLLARS LEAVE THE
% PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
% THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THE
% LIGHT BILL.
% AND THEY ARE REQUIRED TO RAISE
% PROPERTY TAXES TO MAKE UP THE%
DIFFERENCE.
% >> THIS WILL BE LIKE A HALF
% BILLION DOLLAR PROPERTY TAX
% INCREASE.
% >> MICHELS SAYS HIS PLAN IS
% NEEDED BY POINTING TO A
% HANDFUL OF MILWAUKEE SCHOOLS
% IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
% SAW READING SCORES CRASH
% DURING COVID.
% >> BABY KEWONN AND THOUSANDS
% OF YOUNG BABIES LIKE KEWONN,
% AND BABY GIRLS, HAVE ZERO
% CHANCE AT BEING SUCCESSFUL IN
% LIFE UNLESS UNLESS WE
% CHANGE EDUCATION.
% THAT'S WHY IT'S THE FOUNDATION
% OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
% DO.
% WE'RE GOING TO GET UNIVERSAL
% SCHOOL CHOICE, AND WE'RE GOING
% TO HELP GET MILWAUKEE HEADED
% IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
% >> THE PROBLEM WITH HIS
% ARGUMENT IS MILWAUKEE HAS HAD
% A VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR THREE%
DECADES.
% UNIVERSAL SCHOOL CHOICE WON'T
% CHANGE THE SITUATION THERE AT
% ALL.
% ATTACKING SCHOOLS MAY BE GOOD
% POLITICS, BUT EVERS SAYS IT'S
% DANGEROUS POLICY.
% >> WHAT DOES THAT DO TO OUR
% INSTITUTIONS IN THE MEANTIME?
% IT DESTROYS THEM.
% SO IT'S POLITICS AT ITS WORST.
% >> AND THE POLITICS MAY TURN%
INTO POLICY.
% EVERS VETOED A REPUBLICAN BILL
% LAST YEAR THAT WOULD HAVE
% ALLOWED PARENTS TO SUE THEIR
% LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS OVER
% THINGS LIKE THE USE OF NAMES
% AND PRONOUNS FOR TRANSGENDER
% KIDS.
% MICHELS WOULD SIGN IT.
% >> IF MY OPPONENT IS GOVERNOR,
% ALL 128 BILLS THAT I DID VETO
% OVER THE LAST THREE AND A HALF
% YEARS WILL BECOME THE LAW OF
% THE LAND IMPACTING VOTING
% RIGHTS, IMPACTING REPRODUCTIVE
% HEALTH, IMPACTING OUR PUBLIC
% SCHOOLS, YOU NAME IT.
% WISCONSIN WILL BE A DIFFERENT%
PLACE.
% >> WE KNOW THEY'RE
% INDOCTRINATING OUR CHILDREN.
% >> IN HIS SPEECHES TO MORE
% CONSERVATIVE AUDIENCES,
% MICHELS' RHETORIC BECOMES MORE%
INFLAMED.
% >> THAT IS A CULTURAL SHIFT%
THAT THE LEFT WANTS.
% IT'S PART OF THEIR DESTROYING%
AMERICA.
% >> AT ONE SPEECH, MICHELS
% LINKED PUBLIC SCHOOLS WITH A
% NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS CONNECTED%
TO BLACK AMERICA.
% >> WE BELIEVE THIS COUNTRY IS
% ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE TOWARDS
% SOCIALISM.
% IT'S BEING CLOAKED BEHIND CRT
% AND BLM AND DEFUND THE POLICE.
% >> IT'S ALL DOG WHISTLE%POLI
TICS.
% >> TO EVERS, THE RACIST
% UNDERTONES SHOULD NOT BE%IGNO
RED.
% >> THERE'S A LOT OF HARM
% THAT'S DONE BY DIVIDING
% PEOPLE, DIVIDING PEOPLE AND
% DIVIDING PEOPLE.
% THAT'S HOW TRUMP DOES IT.
% THAT'S HOW MY OPPONENT DOES
% IT.
% >> AT THAT SAME EVENT, FLORIDA%
GOVERNOR RON DESANTIS PRAISED%MI
CHELS.
% >> I REALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING
% WE'VE DONE IN FLORIDA YOU WILL
% BE ABLE TO DO IN WISCONSIN AND%
THEN SOME.
% [CHEERING]%>> EARLIER THIS YE
AR DESANTIS
% SIGNED A BILL CRITICS CALLED
% THE "DON'T SAY GAY" BILL,
% WHICH PREVENTS ELEMENTARY
% TEACHERS FROM TALKING ABOUT
% SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND GENDER
% IDENTITY WITH STUDENTS.
% >> WE DON'T NEED RON DESANTIS
% TO COME TO WISCONSIN AND TELL
% US HOW TO DO THINGS.
% >> EVERS SAYS THE POLITICS OF
% DESANTIS AND MICHELS AREN'T
% GOOD FOR WISCONSIN SCHOOLS.
% >> I READ THAT HE SAID, IF MY
% OPPONENT'S ELECTED, WE CAN BE
% LIKE FLORIDA. WELL,
% WHOOP-DE-DO?
% EXACTLY WHO THINKS THAT'S A
% GOOD IDEA?
% >> SO HOW DOES MICHELS WANT
% STUDENTS EDUCATED ON ISSUES OF%
RACE AND GENDER?
% >> WE'RE GOING TO LET PARENTS
% DECIDE, NOT A COUPLE OF WOKE
% EDUCRATS, THAT ARE SAYING
% 'THIS IS WHAT IT IS NOW, WE'RE
% GOING TO START TEACHING THIS,'
% THAT THIS IS BAD AND THIS IS%
GOOD.
% >> OBVIOUSLY, HE BELIEVES THAT
% THAT THERE'S THIS LIBERAL
% CABAL AND EVERY SCHOOL
% DISTRICT IN THE STATE THAT IS
% WOKE, WHATEVER THAT MEANS.
% WE NEED TO MAKE SURE KIDS SEE
% THEMSELVES REPRESENT PPED IN
% THE HISTORY THAT WE TEACH.
% >> STATE SUPERINTENDENT JILL%
UNDERLY WROTE AN EDITORIAL
% THIS YEAR SAYING "CRITICAL
% RACE THEORY IS NOT A SUBJECT
% BEING TAUGHT IN K-12 SCHOOLS."
% BUT SHE SAYS, "IF WHAT YOU'RE
% ACTUALLY ASKING IS, ARE WE
% TEACHING STUDENTS ABOUT
% RACE AND RACISM?
% THEN THE ANSWER IS AND SHOULD
% BE YES.
% AND THAT'S WHAT HAS MICHELS%
UPSET.
% >> I DISAGREE WITH THE
% STATEMENT FREDERICA THAT
% EVERYTHING IS BEING TAUGHT
% PROPERLY RIGHT NOW.
% PARENTS HAVE COME TO ME AND
% SHOWN ME THE STUFF THAT'S
% BEING TAUGHT TO THEIR KIDS IN
% SCHOOL AND THEY'RE OUTRAGED
% AND THEY DON'T LIKE IT.
% >> EVERS SAYS MICHELS IS
% TRYING TO USE THAT CONFUSION
% AND OUTRAGE TO GET ELECTED.
% >> IT BOTHERS ME BECAUSE
% PEOPLE CAN'T DEFINE IT.
% AND THEN WHEN PEOPLE GET ANGRY
% WITH EACH OTHER, IT'S JUST THE
% WAY IT'S DIVIDING PEOPLE.
% AND THERE IS POLITICAL SENSE%
AND DIVIDING PEOPLE.
% IF YOU DIVIDE PEOPLE, THEN
% YOU'RE GOING TO BE AND YOU
% DIVIDE THEM IN SUCH A WAY THAT
% 51% OF THEM BELIEVE YOU.
% YOU GET ELECTED.
% >> THE RACE FOR A SEAT IN THE%
U.S. SENATE BETWEEN INCUMBENT%RO
N JOHNSON AND CHALLENGER
% MANDELA BARNES MAY DECIDE
% WHICH PARTY CONTROLS THE
% CHAMBER.
% HERE & NOW REPORTER STEVEN
% POTTER HAS THIS REPORT ON THE
% CONTEST BETWEEN WISCONSIN'S
% SENIOR SENATOR AND THE LT.
% GOVERNOR.
% >> THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS%
UP.
% NUMEROUS POLLS SHOW INFLATION
% IS THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN%AM
ONG VOTERS.
% DOVER NOT BELIEVE THE LIES.
% >> POLITICAL CANDIDATES,%INCL
UDING REPUBLICAN RON
% JOHNSON AND DEMOCRAT MANDELA
% BARNES, WHO ARE COMPETING FOR
% A SEAT IN THE U.S. SENATE,
% WANT WISCONSIN VOTERS TO KNOW
% THEY'RE LISTENING.
% >> ALL ACROSS THE STATE,
% PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED.
% THEY'VE BEEN CONCERNED WITH%
RISING COSTS.
% >> THEY'D LIKE SOME RELIEF
% FROM INFLATION.
% >> BARNES IS CURRENTLY SERVING
% AS THE STATE LIEUTENANT
% GOVERNOR AND JOHNSON IS
% SEEKING HIS THIRD TERM IN THE%
SENATE.
% THEY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT
% PLANS FOR ADDRESSING
% INFLATION.
% >> SENATOR JOHNSON SAYS THE
% PROBLEM IS HIGH GOVERNMENT
% SPENDING.
% >> STOP SPENDING SO MUCH%MONE
Y.
% YOU KNOW, INFLATION'S
% PRETTY EASY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
% CAUSED IT.
% IT'S MASSIVE DEFICIT SPENDING.
% IT'S PRINTING DOLLARS.
% YOU HAVE WAY TOO MANY DOLLARS
% CHASING TOO FEW GOODS.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BARNES
% SAYS SOME TARGETED TAX CHANGES%
ARE NEEDED.
% >> WE NEED A MIDDLE CLASS TAX
% CUT.
% AND WE CAN ACHIEVE
% THIS BY MAKING SURE THAT THE
% WEALTHIEST AMONG US PAY THEIR
% FAIR SHARE.
% THAT'S HOW WE GET TO A PLACE
% WHERE FAMILIES CAN HAVE A
% LITTLE MORE ECONOMIC SECURITY.
% >> UW-MADISON POLITICAL
% SCIENTIST ELEANOR POWELL SAYS
% THE PAIN THAT PEOPLE ARE
% FEELING FINANCIALLY MIGHT
% MOTIVATE THOSE WHO DON'T
% USUALLY VOTE IN MIDTERM%ELEC
TIONS.
% >> BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC, THE
% ECONOMY AND INFLATION, A LOT
% OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY HURTING,
% AND THAT COULD BRING OUT A LOT
% OF SORT OF MORE DISCONTENTED
% VOTERS.
% >> BUT THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE
% THAT POWELL SAYS IS
% HIGHLY-MOTIVATING IN THE%CONT
EST BETWEEN BARNES AND% JOHNSON.
% AND THAT'S ABORTION.
% >> PARTICULARLY WOMEN AND
% YOUNGER VOTERS, ARE REALLY
% UPSET BY THE OVERTURNING OF
% ROE VERSUS WADE AND SORT OF
% ABORTION POLITICS, WHICH HAVE
% BEEN PARTICULARLY
% CONSEQUENTIAL HERE IN
% WISCONSIN, BECAUSE WE
% HAD THIS SORT OF PREEXISTING
% BAN DATING BACK TO THE 1800S
% ON THE BOOKS.
% AND SO THIS HAS MOBILIZED A
% LOT OF ENERGY ON THE LEFT.%AN
D IT'S NOT REALLY% ENTHUSIASM.
% >> IT'S REALLY
% ANGER AND MOBILIZATION.
% >> BARNES IS CALLING FOR A NEW
% FEDERAL LAW ALLOWING ACCESS TO
% ABORTION.
% TO ACHIEVE THIS, HE WANTS TO
% END TO THE FILIBUSTER IN THE
% SENATE.
% THE FILIBUSTER IS A TACTIC
% USED TO PREVENT A BILL FROM
% PASSING BY STALLING IT WITH%
PROLONGED DEBATE.
% >> THE REALITY IS WE NEED TO
% END THE FILIBUSTER TO CODIFY
% THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE INTO LAW
% ONCE AND FOR ALL.
% AND WE CAN DO THIS IF WE FLIP
% WISCONSIN AND ADD ONE MORE
% SEAT TO THE 50-50, QUOTE,
% UNQUOTE, MAJORITY THAT
% WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
% >> JOHNSON, WHO OPPOSES
% ABORTION EXCEPT IN CASES OF
% RAPE, INCEST, OR IF THE
% LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS AT RISK,
% SAYS INDIVIDUAL STATES SHOULD
% USE REFERENDUMS TO DECIDE IF
% ABORTION SHOULD BE ALLOWED.
% >> AND IN 50 STATES, PEOPLE
% USE THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS TO
% ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
% HERE'S THE FUNDAMENTAL
% QUESTION OF THIS PROFOUND
% MORAL ISSUE.
% AT WHAT POINT DOES SOCIETY
% HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO
% PROTECT LIFE?
% YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU BALANCE
% THE RIGHTS OF A WOMAN VERSUS A
% RIGHT -- THE RIGHTS OF%AN UNB
ORN CHILD?
% UNLIKE OTHER STATES WISCONSIN
% DOES NOT ALLOW DIRECT
% REFERENDUMS.%>> SENATOR JOHNS
ON, YOU KNOW,
% SPEAKS VERY WELL TO THE
% REPUBLICAN.
% THE SORT OF TRUMP WING OF THE%
REPUBLICAN PARTY.
% >> LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR BARNES%
IS YOUNG.%HE SORT OF REPRESENTS
A SORT
% OF NEW GENERATION IN AMERICAN
% POLITICS.
% SO HE REALLY, YOU
% KNOW, IS TRYING TO SPEAK TO
% YOUNGER VOTERS, VOTERS OF
% COLOR, VOTERS WHO OFTEN FEEL
% THAT THEIR INTERESTS AREN'T
% BEING WELL REPRESENTED IN
% WASHINGTON.
% >> BARNES AND JOHNSON TOOK
% VERY DIFFERENT PATHS INTO
% POLITICS.
% MANDELA BARNES WAS BORN AND
% RAISED IN MILWAUKEE AND IS
% VERY PROUD OF HIS
% WORKING-CLASS ROOTS.
% >> MY MOM WAS A TEACHER AND MY
% DAD WORKED THIRD SHIFT.
% >> AFTER WORKING IN COMMUNITY
% ORGANIZING, HE RAN FOR OFFICE
% AT THE AGE OF 25, WINNING A
% SEAT REPRESENTING MILWAUKEE'S
% NORTH SIDE IN THE STATE
% ASSEMBLY.
% >> AFTER TWO TERMS THERE,
% BARNES RAN UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR
% THE STATE SENATE
% IN 2016, BEFORE WINNING
% ELECTION AS LIEUTENANT
% GOVERNOR IN 2018 WITH
% DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR TONY
% EVERS.
% >> IN HIS RUN FOR THE U.S.
% SENATE, BARNES SAYS HIS GOAL
% IS TO HELP MIDDLE-CLASS
% AMERICANS.
% >> AS I LOOK AROUND THE STATE,
% TIMES ARE GETTING TOUGHER FOR%
PEOPLE.
% THINGS ARE MORE DIFFICULT.
% IT'S HARDER AND HARDER TO GET%
AHEAD.
% ACCESS TO THE MIDDLE CLASS HAS
% BEEN DENIED TO SO MANY PEOPLE.
% >> ON THE OTHER SIDE, RON
% JOHNSON, WHO LIVES IN OSHKOSH,
% IS EQUALLY AS PROUD OF HIS
% WORKING-CLASS BACKGROUND.
% >> AS A YOUNG MAN, HE SHOVELED
% DRIVEWAYS, MOWED LAWNS,
% DELIVERED PAPERS.
% >> AFTER A SUCCESSFUL CAREER
% IN PLASTICS MANUFACTURING,
% JOHNSON FIRST RAN FOR U.S
% SENATE IN 2010, BEATING
% LONGTIME DEMOCRATIC SENATOR
% RUSS FEINGOLD.
% HE BEAT FEINGOLD AGAIN IN
% 2016.
% >> IN THE SENATE, JOHNSON HAS%
SERVED ON THE HOMELAND
% SECURITY AND BUDGET%COMMITTE
ES.
% >> IN 2016, YOU SAID THAT YOU
% WOULD ONLY RUN FOR
% TWO TERMS.
% IN JANUARY, YOU DECIDED YOU
% WOULD RUN AGAIN.
% WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR%MI
ND?
% >> OUR NATION IS COMING APART.
% TRUST ME, IT WAS MY PREFERENCE
% AND MY WIFE'S VERY STRONG
% PREFERENCE TO SERVE OUT THAT
% SECOND TERM AND JUST RETURN TO%
A PRIVATE LIFE.
% I THINK I'M IN A POSITION
% WHERE I'VE HAD A GREAT DEAL OF
% SUCCESS AS A U.S. SENATOR.
% I'VE HELPED IMPROVE THINGS.
% >> WHILE BOTH CANDIDATES ARE
% TRYING TO STAY ON MESSAGE WITH
% WHAT THEY CAN OFFER VOTERS IF
% ELECTED, JOHNSON AND BARNES
% ALSO HAVE PLENTY OF CRITICISM%
FOR EACH OTHER.
% >> HE IS A RADICAL LEFTIST.
% I KNOW HE'S TRYING TO HIDE
% THAT FROM WISCONSINITES.
% >> THIS IS ABOUT AN
% OUT-OF-TOUCH POLITICIAN WHO
% HAS FAILED TO DELIVER FOR
% WISCONSIN.
% HE'S PUT HIMSELF AHEAD OF ALL
% OF US EVERY CHANCE.
% >> BUT THE CANDIDATES AREN'T
% THE ONLY ONES GETTING INTO THE
% MUDSLINGING.
% OUTSIDE GROUPS ARE RUNNING
% THEIR OWN POLITICAL ATTACK
% ADS.
% >> RON JOHNSON USED HIS OFFICE
% TO SCOOP UP MILLIONS FOR
% HIMSELF.
% >> MANDELA BARNES SUPPORTS
% DEFUNDING THE POLICE.
% >> POLITICAL SCIENCE PROFESSOR
% ELEANOR POWELL SAYS VOTERS
% SHOULD BE VERY LEERY OF ANY
% ADVERTISING THEY SEE OR THINGS%
MAILED TO THEIR HOMES.
% >> POLITICAL ADS ARE IN THIS
% REALLY FUNNY EXEMPT CATEGORY
% WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY WHATEVER
% THEY WANT AND THERE'S NO
% OBLIGATION FOR ANYTHING TO BE
% FACTUAL.
% BUYERS SHOULD BEWARE.%VIEWER
S SHOULD BEWARE THAT
% JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON TV DOES%
NOT MEAN IT'S TRUE.
% >> WE KNEW THE OTHER SIDE
% WOULD MAKE UP LIES ABOUT ME TO
% SCARE YOU.
% >> YOU'VE SEEN THE ADS
% ATTACKING ME.
% THEY'RE ALL LIES.
% >> STILL, BOTH CANDIDATES DO
% HAVE THEIR CONTROVERSIES.
% >> JOHNSON HAS COME UNDER FIRE
% FOR SPREADING MISINFORMATION
% ABOUT COVID-19 AND A PLAN TO
% GIVE THEN-VICE PRESIDENT MIKE
% PENCE A FAKE SLATE OF
% PRESIDENTIAL ELECTORS.
% >> BARNES HAS TAKEN HEAT FOR
% PAYING HIS PROPERTY TAXES LATE
% AND FOR THE HIGH COST OF HIS
% STATE SECURITY DETAIL.
% >> CURRENTLY, THE POLITICAL
% MAKE-UP OF THE U.S. SENATE
% STANDS AT 50 DEMOCRATS, 48
% REPUBLICANS, AND 2 INDEPENDENT
% SENATORS WHO LEAN LEFT.
% GIVEN THAT CLOSE SPLIT, POWELL
% SAYS ELECTION RESULTS IN THIS
% STATE ARE KEY.
% >> THE CONTROL OF THE SENATE
% HINGES ON A SORT OF RAZOR-THIN%
MAJORITY RIGHT NOW.
% HERE ANOTHER WISCONSIN, WE
% HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
% DETERMINE WHO CONTROLS THE%SE
NATE.
% WISCONSIN COULD BE THE%BALLGA
ME HERE.
% >> IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE
% OUTCOME OF THIS RACE, YOU
% SHOULD SHOW UP ON ELECTION DAY
% BECAUSE WE REALLY DON'T KNOW
% WHAT'S GOING TO
% HAPPEN.
% >> WE TURN NOW TO AN ELECTION%
THAT CAN GET OVERSHADOWED BY%THE
RACES FOR GOVERNOR% AND U.S. SENATE.
% WISCONSIN'S ATTORNEY GENERAL%
IS OFTEN CALLED THE STATE'S% TOP CO
P.
% AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE
% NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR BOTH THE
% INCUMBENT, DEMOCRAT JOSH KAUL,
% AND THE CHALLENGER, REPUBLICAN
% ERIC TONEY.
% BUT WHICH PARTY CONTROLS THE
% OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS
% A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT ON
% OTHER HOT-BUTTON ISSUES LIKE
% ABORTION AND ELECTIONS.
% >> I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS
% THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR
% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL.
% IT'S BEEN MY TOP PRIORITY
% SINCE I TOOK OFFICE, AND IT%
CONTINUES TO BE.
% >> JOSH KAUL HAS DECIDED
% THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE HIS TOP
% PRIORITY.
% POLITICS HAS BEEN HIS TOP%PR
IORITY.
% AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED A
% PROSECUTOR AND NOT A
% POLITICIAN AS OUR TOP COP.
% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LEADS
% WISCONSIN'S DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE.
% AND WHILE THAT MAY SOUND
% IMPOSING, DOJ IS TYPICALLY NOT
% ON THE FRONTLINE OF THE FIGHT
% AGAINST CRIME.
% THEY OFTEN PLAY A SUPPORT
% ROLE, STEPPING IN TO ASSIST
% LOCAL POLICE AND COUNTY
% DISTRICT ATTORNEYS WHEN
% NEEDED.
% >> WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS FOCUS
% ON MILWAUKEE COUNTY.
% ERIC TONEY WANTS A MORE DIRECT
% ROLE.
% IF ELECTED, HE PLANS TO ASK
% THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE
% AUTHORITY TO STEP IN AND
% PROSECUTE ANY CASE IN
% MILWAUKEE.
% >> IT'S EVIDENT THAT WE NEED
% MORE RESOURCES AND TO HAVE THE
% ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE
% ASSIST WITH THAT ON THAT TYPE%
OF VIOLENT CRIME.
% >> JOSH KAUL SAYS IF THE
% LEGISLATURE IS GIVING MORE
% AUTHORITY TO THE DOJ, IT
% SHOULD APPLY STATEWIDE.
% BUT HE ALSO CAN'T THINK OF
% CASES WHERE THE MILWAUKEE
% COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS
% CHOOSING NOT TO PROSECUTE
% VIOLENT CRIMINALS.
% >> I CAN'T THINK OF EXAMPLES
% WHERE, YOU KNOW, DA'S THINK
% THAT THERE IS A PROSECUTION
% THAT SHOULD BE BROUGHT AND
% THEY'RE CHOOSING NOT TO.
% FOR THE RECORD, TONEY CAN'T
% LIST ANY EXAMPLES OF THAT
% EITHER.
% BUT HE KNOWS MILWAUKEE HAS A
% BUDGET SHORTFALL.
% >> THE MAYOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL
% THIS YEAR IS FOR LESS POLICE
% OFFICERS THAN THE YEAR BEFORE.
% AND SO OUR DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE CAN BE A RESOURCE TO
% AUGMENT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN
% MILWAUKEE WITH DCI AGENTS AND
% PROSECUTORS TO ADD MORE TO OUR
% DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
% >> KAUL SAYS THE WAY TO FIGHT
% CRIME IS FOR THE LEGISLATURE
% TO FULLY FUND SHARED REVENUE
% TO LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, SO THE
% CITY OF MILWAUKEE CAN AFFORD
% MORE OFFICERS.
% >> WHAT WE REALLY NEED,
% THOUGH, IS NOT JUST A SHIFT IN%
AUTHORITY.
% WE NEED TO GET RESOURCES TO%
OUR COMMUNITIES.
% TONEY SAYS REPUBLICANS IN THE
% LEGISLATURE ARE MORE LIKELY TO
% FUND HIS DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE THAN INCREASE SHARED%
REVENUE TO MILWAUKEE.
% >> WHAT WE NEED IS SOMEONE THE
% LEGISLATURE TRUSTS TO PARTNER
% WITH TO DEPLOY THOSE RESOURCES%
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
% KAUL SAYS IT'S IMPORTANT TO
% HAVE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL
% WILLING TO STAND UP TO
% REPUBLICANS IN THE
% LEGISLATURE.
% ESPECIALLY ON ELECTION ISSUES.
% >> THIS IS A CLEAR CONTRAST IN
% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE.
% IF YOU WANT A CANDIDATE WHO
% YOU CAN COUNT ON TO PROTECT
% DEMOCRACY, I THINK MY TRACK
% RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF AND
% MY OPPONENT'S TRACK RECORD
% SPEAKS FOR ITSELF IN A VERY%
DIFFERENT WAY.
% >> KAUL REPRESENTED THE STATE
% IN NUMEROUS LAWSUITS FILED
% BEFORE AND AFTER THE 2020
% ELECTION.
% AND SAYS A REPUBLICAN COULDN'T
% BE TRUSTED TO DO THE SAME.
% >> THAT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT
% I HAVE, IS THAT IF THERE IS
% REPUBLICAN CONTROL, THAT THEY
% WOULD OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE
% PEOPLE.
% AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF ERIC
% TONEY WERE A.G., THAT HE WOULD
% POTENTIALLY SUGGEST THAT, YOU
% KNOW, FALSELY THAT LAWS WERE
% BROKEN, OR THAT THERE WAS
% FRAUD.
% AND AGAIN, HE HAS SUGGESTED
% THAT LAWS WERE BROKEN IN 2020,
% DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS HAS
% BEEN LITIGATED IN CASE AFTER
% CASE AFTER CASE.
% >> THAT'S INCREDIBLY
% DISINGENUOUS AND DISHONEST OF
% OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL TO
% MAKE STATEMENT LIKE THAT.
% ERIC TONEY IS ONE OF THE FEW
% REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES THIS
% ELECTION CYCLE TO CLEARLY
% STATE DONALD TRUMP LOST
% WISCONSIN IN 2020, AND THAT
% THERE WAS NO WIDESPREAD VOTER
% FRAUD.
% >> I'VE BEEN THE MOST VOCAL
% STATEWIDE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE
% SAYING WE CANNOT DECERTIFY THE
% ELECTION, THAT IT'S NOT
% LAWFUL, THAT THERE WAS NOT A
% LEVEL OF FRAUD THAT WOULD HAVE
% OVERTURNED THE RESULTS OF THE
% 2020 ELECTION.
% >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN TONEY AND
% KAUL AGREE ON ELECTION ISSUES.
% TONEY SAYS THE MEMBERS OF THE
% WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
% COULD HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR
% THE GUIDANCE THEY ISSUED TO%
LOCAL CLERKS.
% >> WEC EXCEEDED THEIR LAWFUL
% AUTHORITY AND DIRECTING THESE
% CLERKS TO EFFECTIVELY BREAK%
WISCONSIN LAW.
% >> KAUL SAYS NO MATTER TONEY'S
% PRIOR STATEMENTS, HE WOULDN'T%
TRUST HIM IN 2024.
% >> WHAT WE'VE SEEN, THOUGH, IS
% ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE,
% REPUBLICANS IN WISCONSIN HAVE
% BEEN UNWILLING TO STAND UP TO
% DONALD TRUMP.
% TONEY SAYS IN 2024 HE WILL
% FOLLOW THE LAW.
% >> I WILL ENFORCE THE RULE OF
% LAW, NOT JUST WHEN IT'S
% POPULAR AND NOT JUST WHEN I
% I WILL NOT INJECT MY PERSONAL
% LEAVE ON OTHERS ANDLY FOLLOW
% THE LAW.
% HE SAYS THAT APPLIES TO
% ANOTHER AREA OF CONTENTION IN%
THIS ELECTION.
% ABORTION.
% SPECIFICALLY, ENFORCING
% WISCONSIN'S 1849 LAW THAT BANS%
ALL ABORTION, EXCEPT TO SAVE
% THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER.
% >> I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR AS A
% DA AND AS ATTORNEY GENERAL,
% I'M GOING TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
% AND RIGHT NOW, THAT MEANS WE
% HAVE AN ABORTION BAN ON THE
% BOOKS HERE IN WISCONSIN.
% AND I WILL ENFORCE THAT AS A
% DA AND I WILL ENFORCE AND
% DEFEND THAT AS OUR ATTORNEY
% GENERAL.
% >> JOSH KAUL HAS FILED A
% LAWSUIT SEEKING TO OVERTURN
% THE 1849 LAW, AND HAS SAID HE
% WILL NOT ENFORCE THE LAW AS%
ATTORNEY GENERAL.
% >> THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF%
JUSTICE HAS ABOUT 100
% INVESTIGATORS, AS WELL AS A
% NUMBER OF PROSECUTORS,
% PUTTING THOSE RESOURCES
% TOWARDS GOING AFTER DOCTORS OR
% NURSES OR SPOUSES OR PARENTS
% FOR VIOLATING THAT 19TH
% CENTURY ABORTION BAN.
% ON TOP OF THAT WOULD BE
% SHIFTING RESOURCES FROM
% PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
% >> NOT ONLY WOULD TONEY
% ENFORCE THE 1849 ABORTION BAN,
% HE WOULD ASK THE LEGISLATURE
% T ALLOW ADJOINING COUNTIES TO
% BRING CASES IF THE LOCAL DA%
WON'T PROSECUTE.
% >> WE NEED TO GIVE OUR
% ATTORNEY GENERAL THE AUTHORITY
% TO PROSECUTE.
% THEY ALREADY WOULD HAVE THE
% TECHNICAL AUTHORITY TO
% INVESTIGATE IT.
% AND I THINK ANOTHER APPROACH
% WOULD BE ALLOWING FOR
% ADJOINING COUNTIES TO BE ABLE
% TO INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE
% THAT ABORTION BAN IN
% WISCONSIN.
% >> WHAT WE DO IN WISCONSIN IN
% THESE ELECTIONS MAKES SUCH A
% BIG DIFFERENCE.
% THE MARGINS ARE SMALL, BUT THE
% CONSEQUENCES ARE HUGE.
% JOSH KAUL THINKS THIS IS THE
% TYPE OF ISSUE THAT SWINGS
% ELECTIONS AND MAY MAKE THE%DI
FFERENCE IN A TIGHT RACE.
% >> I DO THINK THAT THIS IS
% GOING TO IMPACT THE ELECTION.
% I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO
% MAY HAVE VOTED REPUBLICAN WHEN
% THEY WHEN THEY KNEW THERE WAS
% A CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION
% FOR ACCESS TO SAFE AND LEGAL
% ABORTION, WHO ARE NOW SEEING
% HOW EXTREME REPUBLICANS,
% INCLUDING MY OPPONENT, ARE ON
% THIS ISSUE.
% TONEY SAYS IN THE END, IT WILL
% COME DOWN TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
% >> JOSH KAUL HAS BEEN LOCKSTEP%
WITH TONY EVERS, WHERE WE NEED%AN
ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT IS
% GOING TO STAND WITH OUR LAW
% ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND
% THE RULE OF LAW.
% STATE-WIDE RACES COULD HINGE
% ON THREE KEY NATIONAL VOTING
% TRENDS PLAYING OUT IN THE
% MILWAUKEE METRO AREA, WHICH IS
% HOME TO A LITTLE LESS THAN
% HALF OF THE STATE'S VOTERS.
% SCOTTIE LEE MEYERS FROM
% MILWAUKEE PBS BRINGS US THIS
% REPORT.
% >> DEANGELA BESTER, THE%EXEC
UTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE% CENTER FOR R
ACIAL AND GENDER
% EQUITY, IS ONE OF THE LEAD
% ORGANIZERS BEHIND THIS VOTER
% REGISTRATION PARTY AT THE
% SHERMAN PHOENIX MARKETPLACE.%
DEMOCRATS HOPE EVENTS LIKE
% THIS COULD LEAD TO HIGHER
% TURNOUT AMONG BLACK VOTERS, A
% KEY CONSTITUENCY FOR THE
% PARTY.
% >> SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO
% IS JUST, AGAIN, EDUCATE THE
% VOTERS HERE IN MILWAUKEE AND
% EVEN ACROSS THE STATE ABOUT
% MAKING SURE TO REGISTER TO
% VOTE, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ALL
% THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO
% REGISTER TO VOTE.
% >> MILWAUKEE'S BLACK VOTER
% TURNOUT WAS DOWN IN 2020.
% STRICTER VOTING LAWS AND THE
% PANDEMIC ARE THE TWO BIG
% REASONS EXPERTS OFTEN CITE FOR%
THE DECLINE.%THAT'S WHY BESTER AN
D HIS TEAM
% ARE KNOCKING ON A LOT OF DOORS
% RIGHT NOW.
% >> WE'RE HOPING TO KNOCK ON
% ABOUT 40,000 DOORS TOTAL IN
% THE STATE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW,
% WHEN WE STARTED IN AROUND JUNE
% THROUGH ELECTION DAY.
% WE WANT TO HAVE AROUND 15,000
% CONVERSATIONS WITH VOTERS.
% AND WE'RE HOPING TO GET, YOU
% KNOW, 70% TURNOUT FOR THE
% PEOPLE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE%
CONVERSATIONS WITH.
% >> REPUBLICANS HAVE LOOKED TO
% INCREASE THEIR SUPPORT AMONG
% HISPANIC VOTERS WITH A NEW
% INITIATIVE CALLED OPERACI ÓN
% iVAMOS!, WHICH LAUNCHED IN
% SEVERAL KEY SWING STATES
% INCLUDING WISCONSIN.
% LATINO VOTERS HAVE TYPICALLY
% FAVORED DEMOCRATS, BUT NOT
% ALWAYS BY WIDE MARGINS.
% THEY'RE NOT LEAVING IN DROVES
% BUT THERE IS A MEASURABLE%SH
IFT.
% >> I KNOW THAT HISPANIC VOTERS
% HAVE BASICALLY BEEN TAKEN FOR
% GRANTED BY DEMOCRATS.
% >> U.S. SENATOR RICK SCOTT OF
% FLORIDA IS HELPING TO LEAD
% THESE OUTREACH EFFORTS, WHICH
% HAVE SENT CAMPAIGN WORKERS TO
% KNOCK ON DOORS IN
% NEIGHBORHOODS IN MILWAUKEE AND
% THROUGHOUT THE STATE, TRYING
% TO MAKE INROADS WITH
% WISCONSIN'S LARGEST MINORITY
% GROUP.
% >> HISPANIC VOTERS ARE WAY
% MORE INCLINED TO VOTE
% THEY WANT A BETTER ECONOMIC%
MARKET.
% THEY DON'T WANT TO SEE
% INFLATION. THEY WANT TO LIVE
% IN SAFE COMMUNITIES.
% IF WE TALK ABOUT THOSE ISSUES
% THAN WE'RE GOING TO WIN
% ELECTIONS.
% >> DURING OUR INTERVIEW WITH
% DEB DASSOW, THE CHAIR OF THE
% DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF OZAUKEE
% COUNTY, PEOPLE KEPT COMING
% INTO THE OFFICE REQUESTING%YA
RD SIGNS.
% YOU'RE PROBABLY SEEING MORE IN
% THE AREA THAN EVER BEFORE.
% THOUGH STILL RED, OZAUKEE
% COUNTY RECENTLY SAW THE
% BIGGEST INCREASE IN DEMOCRATIC
% VOTERS IN THE STATE.
% WAUKESH COUNTY IS SECOND ON%
THAT SAME LIST. IT'S PART OF
% THE PURPLING OF THE
% SUBURBS.
% I DO GET A SENSE THAT IT'S
% CHANGING. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY
% IT'S NOT A
% INORMOUS SWING. BUT WE ARE%JU
ST PICKING UP A COUPLE% PERCENTAGE P
OINTS EVERY% SINGLE YEAR.%AT T
HE CENTER OF THIS SURBAN
% SWING ARE WOMEN, WHO DASSOW
% SAYS HAVE ENERGIZED THE PARTY
% AFTER THE OVERTURNING OF ROE
% V. WADE.
% >> I HAD A WOMAN STOPPED IN
% RIGHT AFTER THE DOBBS%DECISI
ON.
% SHE CAME
% IN WITH HER TWO LITTLE%CHILDR
EN. SHE HAD ON A "MY% BODY, MY CHO
ICE T-SHIRT ON% AND SHE SAID "
I'VE NEVER VOTED
% FOR A DEMOCRAT BEFORE. I'VE
% ALWAYS BEEN A LIBERTARIAN. %
SHE WAS YOUNG.
% I'D SAY IN HER THIRTIES.
% AND SHE SAID, SHE GOES, "SIGN
% ME UP. WHAT CAN I DO?
% ELECTION DAY IS TUESDAY
% NOVEMBER 8.
% THANKS FOR JOINING US.
% I'M ZAC SHULTSDS.
% STAY TUNED, COMING UP NEXT IS
% OUR REGULAR EPISODE OF "HERE &
% NOW" WHERE WE HAVE MORE 2022
% ELECTON COVERAGE.
% [♪]