% BECAUSE HE SIGNED HIS NAME ON
% THE BOTTOM.
% WHEN I DID THAT IN COLLEGE, IF I
% WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IN COLLEGE,
% IT WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED
% PLAGIARISM.%I THINK THE CHAL
LENGE WE HAVE
% RIGHT NOW IS THE AVERAGE PERSON
% IS SPENDING OVER $700 A YEAR,
% EXCUSE ME, $700 A MONTH MORE
% THAN A YEAR AGO FOR DOING THE
% EXACT SAME THING.
% WHAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW IS
% THE GOVERNOR SAYING THAT HE'S
% PROPOSING A TAX CUT TO ABOUT 10%
% TO THE MIDDLE CLASS, STILL NOT
% SURE EXACTLY WHERE HE'S GOING TO
% GET THAT FROM, TAX CREDITS HE
% DIDN'T WANT TO REALLY TALK
% ABOUT, REMOVE THE MINIMUM MARKUP
% AND THEN THE CHILD CARE CREDIT.
% THERE'S SOME IDEAS HE HAS THERE
% BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING WHERE THE
% IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON THOSE.
% >> BUT SPECIFICALLY WHAT WILL
% MICHELS DO, WHAT CAN THE
% GOVERNOR DO?
% >> HE HAS TALKED ABOUT ON THE
% ROAD PROVIDING A FLAT TAX.
% WHEN YOU LOOK AT A BUDGET THAT
% HAS A $4 BILLION SURPLUS, I
% THINK TIM MICHELS SAID IT LATER
% ON IN THE CONVERSATION THAT HE
% WANTS TO GIVE THAT MONEY BACK TO
% THE PEOPLE.
% WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING FORWARD TO
% FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
% DO.
% THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE HAVE
% WHEN IT COMES TO INFLATION IS A
% LOT OF IT IS AT THE FEDERAL
% LEVEL.
% THAT'S MESSED IT UP SO MUCH
% THERE'S NOT A LOT WE'RE GOING TO
% BE ABLE TO FIX RIGHT HERE.
% >> WHAT CAN ANY GOVERNOR DO
% EXCEPT TAKE THE BLAME FOR
% INFLATION?%>> WELL, INFLATION
IS A GLOBAL
% PROBLEM AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE
% THAT IT'S BEING USED -- THAT'S
% SORT OF DIVORCED FROM HOW
% ECONOMICS WORKS BUT I THINK
% THERE ARE CONCRETE STEPS THAT
% GOVERNOR EVERS IS PROPOSING
% SPECIFICALLY TO GAS TAX, DOING A
% HOLIDAY, THAT'S SOMETHING
% MICHELS HAS REA FUSED TO COMMIT
% TO.
% HE'S URGED THE BIDEN
% ADMINISTRATION TO SUSPEND GAS
% TAXES AND WORK TO REPEAL THE
% MINIMUM MARKUP FOR GAS.
% SO THOSE ARE REALLY CONCRETE
% STEPS.
% ON CHILD CARE, MICHELS DOESN'T
% EVEN HAVE A PLAN TO ADDRESS
% CHILD CARE.
% EVERS UNDERSTANDS THE COST OF
% CHILD CARE IS UNAFFORDABLE AND
% THAT'S HURTING OUR WORKFORCE AND
% OUR SMALL BUSINESSES AND THAT'S
% WHY HE'S PROPOSED CONCRETE TAX
% CREDITS TO HELP CAREGIVERS AND
% FAMILIES.%>> ONE THING I WAN
T TO FRAME FOR
% OUR VIEWERS IS HOW DO YOU WIN
% ELECTIONS.
% YOU CAN EITHER WIN THE SMALL
% NUMBER OF SWING VOTERS AND
% INDEPENDENTS IN WISCONSIN OR YOU
% CAN TURN OUT YOUR BASE.
% OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A
% DROPOFF IN THE PRESIDENTIAL
% ELECTION SO WHEN IT COMES TO AN
% ISSUE LIKE INFLATION OR ANY OF
% THESE, WHICH ONES ARE BASE
% ISSUES AND WHICH ONES ARE GOING
% TO BE SWING INDEPENDENTS?
% DOES -- WE JUST HEARD, ABOUT 22%
% OF PEOPLE DON'T CARE BUT
% OTHERWISE REPUBLICANS HAVE THE
% ADVANTAGE ON INFLATION.
% IS THIS A BASE ISSUE FOR THE
% GOVERNOR TO HAVE A DETAILED PLAN
% OR IS HE GOING TO WIN
% INDEPENDENCE WITH THAT?
% >> I THINK HE IS GOING TO WIN
% INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE HE HAS
% SPECIFICS AND HE CAN SHOW HIS
% WORK.
% GOVERNOR EVERS HAS SHOWN
% INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC EDUCATION.
% WE WENT FROM 18TH UNDER THE
% DEVASTATING CUTS OF WALKER TO
% 8TH IN THE NATION WHICH IS BACK
% WHERE WE SHOULD BE.
% HE'S MADE OVER $100 MILLION IN
% INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC SAFETY
% AGAIN, EVERY SINGLE LAW
% ENFORCEMENT AGENCY IN THE STATE
% RECEIVED MONEY THANKS TO
% GOVERNOR EVERS.
% >> BASE OR SWING FROM MICHELS
% PERSPECTIVE?%>> SWING VOTERS,
IT'S GOING TO
% BE IMPORTANT.
% GOVERNOR EVERS TALKED ABOUT THE
% MARQUETTE POLL A COUPLE OF
% TIMES.
% WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS,
% THEY'RE LOOKING AT INFLATION AS
% ONE OF THEIR TOP TWO CONCERN
% CATEGORIES.
% YOU'VE SEEN THE MOVE THAT
% OCCURRED IN THAT MARQUETTE POLL.
% PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO REALIZE
% WE NEED A DIFFERENCE IN
% LEADERSHIP WHEN IT COMES TO THE
% GOVERNOR BECAUSE HE HASN'T DONE
% THE JOB YET.
% >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE
% TALKING ABOUT IS SHARED REVENUE
% AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY
% AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT BUDGET.
% THE GOVERNOR SAYS HE WANTS TO
% SEE MORE MONEY GO TO THE LOCAL
% COMMUNITIES.
% LET'S SEE WHAT THEY HAD TO SAY.
% >> THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY IN
% GOVERNMENT.
% THERE'S $43.5 BILLION SPENT%
EVERY YEAR.
% THOSE ARE THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY.
% I'M GOING TO SIT DOWN WITH THE
% LEGISLATURE AND THE SMART
% PEOPLE, MY LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
% ROGER ROTH, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE
% SURE WE COME UP WITH THE RIGHT
% FORMULAS AND ADEQUATELY MAKE
% SURE THERE'S FUNDING FOR THE
% ISSUES THAT PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN
% ARE SO CONCERNED ABOUT.
% >> NEXT BUDGET, IT IS MY TOP
% PRIORITY.
% WE'RE GOING TO HAVE 4% EACH YEAR
% OF THE BIENNIUM AND THAT HELPS
% THESE PEOPLE DO THE HARD WORK.
% WHETHER IT'S AROUND CRIME,
% SOCIAL SERVICES, YOU NAME IT,
% THEY DO THE HARD WORK.
% >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP.
% >> THEY NEED TO HAVE THE
% RESOURCES.%>> WE NEED TO MOVE
ON NOW.
% >> SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BASE
% TURNOVERS TO SWING, DOES ANYBODY
% GET EXCITED ABOUT SHARED
% REVENUE?
% EVEN THOUGH IT'S EXTREMELY
% IMPORTANT, IS THAT SOMETHING
% THAT CAN RESONATE WITH A VOTER
% WHO DOESN'T REALLY FOLLOW
% POLITICS?%>> I THINK PEOPLE
KNOW VERY WELL
% IF THEIR COMMUNITIES HAVE THE
% RESOURCES THEY NEED TO HAVE
% THINGS LIKE GOOD PUBLIC PARKS,
% TO HAVE CLEAN WATER, TO HAVE
% POLICE AND FIRE SERVICE, PUBLIC
% HEALTH.
% ALL THESE THINGS ARE DAY TO DAY
% IMPORTANT WORK GOVERNMENT DOES
% AND GOVERNOR EVERS HAS A PLAN TO
% FUND IT AND TIM MICHELS DOES
% NOT.
% AGAIN, THAT'S A HUGE CONTRAST.
% IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
% FUNDING THE POLICE, GOVERNOR
% EVERS HAS FUNDED THE POLICE.
% TIM MICHELS AND HIS REPUBLICAN
% COLLEAGUES INCLUDING MY FRIEND
% PAUL, HE WAS ON THE FINANCE
% COMMITTEE FOR YEARS, REPUBLICANS
% CUT AND CUT AND CUT SHARED
% REVENUE WHICH MEANS INEVITABLY
% CUTS TO POLICE AND FIRE.
% >> JOINT FINANCE DOES NOT LIKE
% TO GIVE MONEY TO MILWAUKEE AND
% OTHER LARGE CITIES.
% THEY HAVE HELD THAT FLAT FOR
% QUITE A WHILE.
% DO YOU SEE THAT CHANGING UNDER
% TIM MICHELS' LEADERSHIP?
% >> QUICK CORRECTION, I WAS NEVER
% ON JOINT FINANCE.
% >> OH, YOU WERE NOT.
% >> NO.
% BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SHARED
% REVENUE, I THINK PART OF THE
% CHCHALLENGE YOU HEAR, YOU HEAR E
% GOVERNOR TALK ABOUT IT, HE WANTS
% TO PROVIDE A 4%, 4% YEAR OVER
% YEAR.
% THE ISSUE, AGAIN I AGREE WITH
% YOU, THEY DON'T SEE WHAT SHARED
% REVENUE IS, THEY LIKE THEIR
% PARKS, THEY LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S
% HAPPENING.
% I THINK THE KEY POSITION YOU
% HAVE TO HEAR THOUGH IS, TIM
% MICHELS AS GOVERNOR IS GOING TO
% REACH OUT TO THE LEGISLATURE TO
% WORK WITH THEM.
% GOVERNOR EVERS HASN'T DONE THAT
% IN THE LAST CYCLE.
% WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER
% OF TIMES THAT A LEGISLATIVE
% LEADERSHIP SHOULD MEET WITH THE
% GOVERNOR AND AS THE LEADER OF
% THE STATE, THE GOVERNOR SHOULD
% BE PUSHING THAT SAYING LET'S
% FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THIS DONE.
% HE'S GOT THE FEWEST VISITATIONS
% AND MEETINGS WITH LEGISLATORS OF
% ANY GOVERNOR WE'VE HAD FOR A
% WHILE.%>> THE LEGISLATURE WAS
N'T REALLY
% WORKING FOR MOST OF THE LAST
% SESSION TOO.%>> ESPECIALLY DU
RING COVID.
% BUT ONE OF THE BIG IMPACTS OF
% SHARED REVENUE IS ABOUT CRIME AT
% THE LOCAL LEVEL.
% IT'S BEEN ONE OF GOVERNOR EVERS'
% MAIN TALKING POINTS.
% WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM THEM ON
% THIS.%>> CRIME IS RUNNING RA
MPANT.
% CRIME WENT DOWN IN AMERICA FROM
% 30 YEARS AGO UNTIL TWO YEARS
% AGO.
% BUT IN THE LAST TWO YEARS,
% THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS SPIKE.
% I BELIEVE IT IS A BYPRODUCT OF
% THE DEFUND THE POLICE MOVEMENT.
% WE GOT TO THIS CRAZY SPOT IN
% AMERICA WHERE LESS COPS IS
% BETTER OR POLICE ARE BAD.
% I DON'T BUY THAT AT ALL.
% I HAVE THE ENDORSEMENT OF
% MULTIPLE POLICE ASSOCIATIONS.
% >> IT ISN'T JUST ABOUT TALKING
% TOUGH, BELIEVE ME.
% IT IS ABOUT PROVIDING THE
% RESOURCES SO THAT THOSE POLICE
% OFFICERS CAN DO THE JOB.
% THE TRAINING THAT MAYBE NEEDS TO
% HAPPEN.
% AND WE PUT OVER A MILLION
% DOLLARS OR EXCUSE ME
% $100 MILLION DURING THE PANDEMIC
% FOR THE MILWAUKEE AREA AND OTHER
% PLACES ACROSS THE STATE OF
% WISCONSIN.
% FOR VIOLENCE PREVENTION.
% FOR LOCAL OFFICERS AND POLICE
% OFFICERS.%>> ALL RIGHT, PAUL
, TIM MICHELS
% SAID THAT DURING HIS INAUGURAL
% ADDRESS, HE'S GOING TO HAVE A
% SPEECH FOR CRIMINALS.
% DO CRIMINALS WATCH INAUGURAL
% ADDRESSES?%>> THAT WOULD BE I
NTERESTING TO
% SEE IF THEY DO.
% I THINK WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT
% HERE, AGAIN, IS THE LEADERSHIP
% OF TONY EVERS.
% HE WAS TALKING THAT HE'S GIVEN
% LAW ENFORCEMENT OVER
% $100 MILLION.
% THE MONEY HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS
% THE FEDERAL CARES ACT OR ARPA
% MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE.
% IT'S NOT MONEY FROM THE STATE.
% IT IS SHORT TERM MONEY, IT'S NOT
% EVEN A BAND-AID IN THIS
% SITUATION, IT'S GOING TO SOLVE A
% VERY SHORT TERM ISSUE.
% HE HASN'T LOOKED AT LONG TERM
% ISSUES ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO
% SOLVE THIS.
% THE YOU LOOK AT HIS TRACK
% RECORD.
% WHEN HE CAME IN, HE TALKED ABOUT
% REDUCING THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN
% PRISON.
% LEADSER SHIP.
% WHEN HE CAME IN, HE WAS TALKING
% ABOUT -- ACTUALLY WHEN HE TALKED
% ABOUT THE PAROLE PROGRAM, HE
% FIRED THE CHAIRMAN.
% AFTER ONE CASE.
% BUT HOW MANY CASES AFTER THAT
% DID WE STILL HAVE INDIVIDUALS
% COMING OUT?
% AND THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY
% ABOUT IT, BECAUSE AGAIN, HE
% BROUGHT IT UP, IS, WHEN YOU LOOK
% AT A LEADERSHIP POSITION, YOU
% WANT SOMEONE WHO TELLS PEOPLE IN
% THE PUBLIC, ALL RIGHT, LET'S
% JUST CALM DOWN AND TAKE A MOMENT
% BEFORE WE REACT.
% THE FIRST STATEMENT THAT HE PUT
% OUT IN THE KENOSHA RIOTS IS
% WHILE WE DO NOT HAVE ALL THE
% DETAILS YET, WHAT WE KNOW FOR
% CERTAIN IS THAT HE IS NOT THE
% FIRST BLACK MAN OR PERSON TO
% HAVE BEEN SHOT OR INJURED OR
% MERCY LESSLY KILLED IT THE HAND
% OF LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR STATE
% OR COUNTRY.
% THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR
% FROM YOUR LEADER.
% >> WE HEARD ABOUT LEADERSHIP,
% TIM MICHELS SAID HE WAS GOING TO
% BE A BOLD LEADER.
% WE DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT
% DEFINED.%>> I THINK A LEADER
IS SOMEONE
% WHO MAKES A COMMITMENT TO FUND
% OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS SO THAT WE
% CAN HAVE AN ECONOMIC FUTURE AND
% SO THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN
% THE STATE.
% GOVERNOR EVERS HAS PLEDGED TO DO
% THAT.
% TIM MICHELS BY CONTRAST HAS SAID
% THAT CONTINUES TO FUND PUBLIC
% EDUCATION IS, QUOTE, THE
% DEFINITION OF INSANITY.
% LEADERSHIP IS SHOWING UP AND
% FUNDING OUR PUBLIC SERVICES.
% GOVERNOR EVERS HAS DELIVERED
% OVER $100 MILLION, AND YES, HE
% SPENT FEDERAL MONEY BECAUSE THE
% STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS
% CONTROLLED BY REPUBLICANS,
% REFUSED TO DO THEIR JOB AND
% ALLOCATE ADEQUATE FUNDS.
% HE DID THAT.
% YOU KNOW, TIM MICHELS, ON THE
% OTHER HAND, HAS SUGGESTED THAT
% COMMUNITIES WITH RISING CRIME
% SHOULD ACTUALLY HAVE THEIR
% FUNDING BE CUT.
% NOW, PEOPLE MIGHT THINK, OH,
% WELL, THAT'S JUST GOING TO
% AFFECT MADISON AND MILWAUKEE.
% AND IT'S A LITTLE BUILT OF A DOG
% WHISTLE.
% BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE SMALLEST
% COMMUNITIES IN WISCONSIN THAT%
ARE GOING TO BE HURT THE MOST
% BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE LEAST
% CAPABILITY TO WEATHER THOSE KIND
% OF CUTS.
% >> EDUCATION IS PART OF THAT
% ISSUE, AND IT'S PART OF ALL
% THESE ISSUES THAT ARE ALL TIED
% TOGETHER, THE CANDIDATE, OF
% COURSE, ADDRESSED THAT.
% WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM TIM
% MICHELS FIRST.%>> EVERY PAREN
T IS A TAXPAYER SO
% THEY SHOULD ALL EQUALLY HAVE THE
% BENEFIT OF THOSE TAX DOLLARS TO
% EDUCATE THEIR KIDS.
% OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS BROKEN
% IN WISCONSIN.
% WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT?
% THE TEST SCORES CONTINUE TO GO
% DOWN.
% THE STATE TESTS, THE FORWARD
% TESTS, BAD NUMBER, GETTING
% WORSE.
% THE NATIONAL NUMBERS, THE
% NUMBERS DN TO CONTINUE TO GO DO.
% >> WE DO NEED MORE RESOURCES, WE
% NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE MORE
% SPECIAL EDUCATION MONEY, MENTAL
% HEALTH MONEY, WE NEED TO MAKE
% SURE THAT OUR LITERACY PROGRAM
% IS MAKING THE TOP READERS IN THE
% STATE.%>> PAUL, TIM MICHELS S
AID -- TO
% A DIFFERENT QUESTION, HE SAID
% HE'S GOING TO SPEND AS MUCH ON
% EDUCATION AS ANY OTHER GOVERNOR,
% WIBUT HE ALSO HAS MADE STATEMENS
% IN THE PAST ABOUT GIVING MORE
% MONEY TO SCHOOLS IS INSANITY.
% SO HOW DO THOSE TWO WORK
% TOGETHER?%>> I THINK WHAT YO
U HEARD IN ONE
% OF THE QUESTIONS OUT THERE IS
% HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PAY FOR TWO
% PARALLEL SYSTEMS.
% AND WE HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME,
% THAT THERE ARE TWO SYSTEMS.
% THE VOUCHER PROGRAM AND IN THE
% PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
% THERE AREN'T TWO SYSTEMS.
% THERE'S ONE.
% IT'S THE SUCCESS OF THE
% STUDENTS.
% AND WHAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT IS
% HOW ARE WE SUCCEEDING WITH OUR
% STUDENTS?
% IF YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE
% DOLLARS, WHICH IS WHAT GOVERNOR
% EVERS KEEPS TALKING ABOUT, IN
% FACT, WHEN THE FIRST LADY JILL
% BIDEN WAS HERE, THEY WERE AT A
% SCHOOL AND SHE WAS PRAISING THEM
% FOR THROWING SO MUCH MONEY AT
% SCHOOLS, EXCEPT THE SCHOOL SHE
% WAS AT, THEIR PROFICIENCY FOR
% MATH WAS ZERO.
% THE PROFICIENCY FOR ENGLISH WAS
% 1.
% THIS IS THE CHALLENGE THAT WE
% HAVE.
% THE GOVERNOR CONTINUES TO SAY
% WE'VE GOT GOOD SYSTEMS.
% I THINK SOME OF THE PUBLIC
% SCHOOLS ARE VERY GOOD SCHOOLS.
% BUT WE'VE GOT OTHER ONES THAT
% ARE FAILING, AND THROWING MONEY
% AT THEM ISN'T THE ANSWER.
% WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY, AND I
% THINK YOU LOOK WHAT TIM MICHELS
% IS TRYING TO DO IS SAY LET'S GET
% THE PARENTS INVOLVED.
% WE KNOW THERE'S SUCCESS WITH THE
% VOUCHER PROGRAMS WHEN WE HAVE
% THE PARENTS INVOLVED IN THE
% EDUCATION SYSTEM.
% LET'S MAKE SURE ALL PARENTS ARE
% INVOLVED IN THEIR KIDS' FUTURE.
% >> SO HOW MUCH OF A BASE TURNOUT
% IS THIS, WHEN THE GOVERNOR TALKS
% ABOUT EDUCATION?
% >> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE AN ISSUE
% THAT IS MORE FUNDAMENTAL FOR
% WISCONSIN VOTERS THAN PUBLIC
% EDUCATION.%WE ARE THE EDUCATI
ON STATE.
% AND WE CANNOT AFFORD TO KEEP
% SENDING OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO
% PRIVATE, UNACCOUNTABLE VOUCHER
% SCHOOLS, WHICH TO NOT HAVE TO
% MEET THE SAME STANDARDS AS
% PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
% THE TEACHERS THAT THEY HIRE DO
% NOT HAVE TO MEET THE SAME
% STANDARDS AS PUBLIC SCHOOL
% TEACHERS.
% AND UNLIKE PUBLIC SCHOOLS,
% VOUCHER SCHOOLS DON'T HAVE TO
% TAKE ALL-COMERS.
% SO THERE'S A TREMENDOUS
% DISCREPANCY.%WE HAVE A HUGE V
ACUUM FROM THESE
% PUBLIC TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THEY'RE
% GOING TO THESE PRIVATE SCHOOLS
% AND TIM MICHELS WANTS TO TAKE
% THAT STATEWIDE.
% I DON'T THINK WISCONSIN VOTERS
% THINK THAT DEFUNDING SCHOOLS
% THAT ARE STRUGGLING, WHETHER
% IT'S RURAL SCHOOLS WITH HIGH
% TRANSPORTATION COSTS, WHETHER
% IT'S SCHOOLS THAT HAVE HIGH
% SPECIAL NEEDS POPULATIONS, THAT
% TAKING MONEY AWAY IS GOING TO
% HELP EDUCATE OUR KIDS.
% >> THERE'S ONE LAST ISSUE THAT
% WE HAVE TO GET TO BEFORE WE LET
% YOU TWO GO AND THAT IS ABORTION,
% WE'VE SEEN IT IN ALL OF THE ADS,
% IT'S BEEN OBVIOUSLY TOP OF MIND
% SINCE THE DOBBS DECISION.
% WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM TIM
% MICHELS FIRST.%>> I AM PRO LI
FE AND I MAKE NO
% APOLLS FOR THAAAPOLOGIES FOR TH.
% THE REAL RADICAL IS GOVERNOR
% EVERS, WHERE HE IS -- FOR
% ALLOWING ABORTION AS LATE AS AT
% THE TIME OF BIRTH.
% HE EVEN VETOED THE BORN ALIVE
% BILL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW A DOCTOR
% TO MURDER A BABY AFTER BIRTH.
% THAT IS EXTREME.
% THAT IS RADICAL.
% >> WOMEN SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY
% AND THE RIGHT TO MAKE DECISIONS
% ABOUT THEIR HEALTHCARE,
% INCLUDING REPRODUCTIVE
% HEALTHCARE.
% AND THAT INCLUDES ABORTION.
% MY OPPONENT IS RADICAL ON THIS
% ISSUE, AND FRANKLY, A HE'S
% RADICAL BECAUSE IT'S NOT
% CONSISTENT WITH WISCONSIN
% VALUES.%>> WE'VE HEARD THE T
ERM RADICAL
% OVER AND OVER AND PAUL, NOW TIM
% MICHELS IS TRYING TO FLIP THE
% SCRIPT AND USE THAT TO DESCRIBE
% TONY EVERS.
% WILL THAT WORK?
% >> YOU KNOW, THE ABORTION ISSUE
% IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT
% EVERYBODY HAS A CONCERN WITH.
% I THINK RIGHT NOW WHAT YOU'RE
% SEEING IS THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
% USING IT AS THE SHIELD TO
% DISAVOW EVERYTHING ELSE THAT'S
% HAPPENING.%BECAUSE THEY REALL
Y HAVEN'T BEEN
% SUCCESSFUL ON ANY OTHER
% CHALLENGES.
% I THINK GOVERNOR EVERS --
% GOVERNOR EVERS MADE A STATEMENT
% AND HAS SAID THAT HE IS WANTING
% TO CODIFY ROE VERSUS WADE.
% THAT'S IT.
% TIM MICHELS HAS SAID, AND I
% THINK HE'S THE ONLY ONE THAT
% SAID LOOK, IF I GET A BILL THAT
% COMES TO MY DESK, EVEN THOUGH
% I'M PRO-LIFE AND IT HAS
% EXCEPTIONS WHICH THE VAST
% MAJORITY AGREE WITH, I'LL LOOK
% AT IT AND SIGN IT.
% >> ALL RIGHT.
% WE'VE GOT LESS THAN A MINUTE.
% IS THIS THE BASE TURNOUT OF ALL
% BASE TURNOUTS?
% >> NO, THIS IS A HUGE ISSUE FOR
% ALL WISCONSIN VOTERS.
% HALF OF THE PEOPLE IN THE STATE
% LOST OUR RIGHTS OVERNIGHT
% BECAUSE OF UNELECTED REPUBLICAN
% SUPREME COURT, IT'S
% UNACCEPTABLE.%TIM MICHELS IS
SO FAR OUT OF
% STEP, HE DESCRIBED THAT THE 1849
% PRECIVIL WAR CRIMINALIZATION OF
% ABORTION WAS AN EXACT MIRROR OF
% HIS POSITION.
% HE HAS FUNNELED THOUSANDS OF
% DOLLARS WHO OWE MOSTS
% CONTRACEPTION AND WANTS TO GET
% RID OF THE EXCEPTION FOR THE
% LIFE OF THE WOMAN.
% THAT'S HOW EXTREME TIM MICHELS
% IS.
% HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED ON ABORTION
% WITH OUR RIGHTS OR OUR SCHOOL
% KIDS.%>> WE'VE GOT JUST A FE
W SECONDS
% LEFT.
% VERY QUICKLY, WE'LL START WITH
% YOU, DID ANYONE WIN OR LOSE THE
% DEBATE TONIGHT?
% >> I THINK TONY EVERS CLEARLY
% WON BECAUSE HE CAME WITH
% DETAILED PLANS, WITH A RECORD OF
% ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND YOU KNOW,
% HE HAS BEEN THE LEADER THAT THE
% STATE DESERVES.
% >> 10 SECONDS.
% >> TIM MICHELS WON, HE CAME WITH
% THE REALIZATION THAT WE'RE GOING
% TO GET A NEW LEADERSHIP IN
% MADISON.%>> ALL RIGHT.
% PAUL THANK YOU BOTH, WE
% APPRECIATE IT.%>> THANK YOU.
% >> WE TURN NOW TO AN ELECTION
% THAT CAN GET OVERSHADOWED BY THE
% RACES FOR GOVERNOR AND U.S.
% SENATE, WISCONSIN'S ATTORNEY
% GENERAL IS OFTEN CALLED THE
% STATE'S TOP COP.
% AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE NUMBER
% ONE ISSUE FOR BOTH THE
% INCUMBENT, DEMOCRAT JOSH KAUL
% AND CHALLENGER ERIC TONY.
% WH
% >> I THINK PUBLIC SAFETY IS THE
% MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR THE
% ATTORNEY GENERAL.
% IT'S BEEN MY TOP PRIORITY SINCE
% I TOOK OFF AND IT CONTINUES TO
% BE.%>> JOSH KAUL HAS DECIDED
THAT'S
% NOT GOING TO BE HIS TOP
% PRIORITY.
% POLITICS HAS BEEN HIS TOP
% PRIORITY AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED
% A PROSECUTOR AND NOT A
% POLITICIAN AS OUR TOP COP.
% >> THE ATTORNEY GENERAL LEADS
% WISCONSIN'S DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE.
% AND WHILE THAT MAY SOUND
% IMPOSING, DOJ IS TYPICALLY NOT
% ON THE FRONT LINE OF THE FIGHT
% AGAINST CRIME.
% THEY OFTEN PLAY A SUPPORT ROLE,
% STEPPING INTO ASSIST LOCAL
% POLICE AND COUNTY DISTRICT
% ATTORNEYS WHEN NEEDED.
% >> WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS FOCUS
% ON MILWAUKEE COUNTY.%>> ERIC
TONEY WANTS A MORE
% DIRECT ROLE.
% IFFY ELECTED, HE PLANS TO ASK
% THE LEGISLATURE FOR THE
% AUTHORITY TO STEP IN AND
% PROSECUTE ANY CASE IN MILWAUKEE
% COUNTY.%>> IT'S EVIDENT THAT
WE NEED
% MORE RESOURCES AND TO HAVE THE
% ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE ASSIST
% ON THAT TYPE OF VIOLENT CRIME.
% >> JOSH KAUL SAYS IF THE
% LEGISLATURE IS GIVING MORE
% AUTHORITY TO THE DOJ, IT SHOULD
% APPLY STATE-WIDE.
% BUT HE ALSO CAN'T THINK OF CASES
% WHERE THE MILWAUKEE COUNTY
% DISTRICT ATTORNEY IS CHOOSING
% NOT TO PROSECUTE VIOLENT
% CRIMINALS.%>> I CAN'T THINK O
F EXAMPLES
% WHERE, YOU KNOW, DAs THINK
% THAT THERE IS A PROSECUTION THAT
% SHOULD BE BROUGHT AND THEY'RE
% CHOOSING NOT TO.
% >> FOR THE RECORD, TONEY CAN'T
% LIST ANY EXAMPLES OF THAT
% EITHER, BUT HE KNOWS MILWAUKEE
% HAS A BUDGET SHORTFALL.
% >> THE MAYOR'S BUDGET PROPOSAL
% THIS YEAR IS FOR LESS POLICE
% OFFICERS THAN THE YEAR BEFORE.
% AND SO OUR DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
% CAN BE A RESOURCE TO AUGMENT
% WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN MILWAUKEE
% WITH DCI AGENTS AND PROSECUTORS
% TO ADD MORE TO OUR DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE.%>> CALL SAYS THE WAY
TO FIGHT
% CRIME IS FOR THE LEGISLATURE TO
% FULLY FUND SHARED REVENUE TO
% LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, SO THE CITY
% OF MILWAUKEE CAN AFFORD MORE
% OFFICERS.
% >> WHAT WE REALLY NEED, THOUGH,
% IS NOT JUST A SHIFT IN
% AUTHORITY.
% WE NEED TO GET RESOURCES TO OUR
% COMMUNITIES.%>> TONEY SAYS RE
PUBLICANS IN THE
% LEGISLATURE ARE MORE LIKELY TO
% FUND HIS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
% THAN INCREASE SHARED REVENUE TO
% MILWAUKEE.%>> WHAT WE NEED IS
SOMEONE, THE
% LEGISLATURE TRUSTS TO PARTNER
% WITH TO DEPLOY THOSE RESOURCES
% FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
% >> CALL SAYS IT'S IMPORTANT TO
% HAVE AN ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLING
% TO STAND UP TO REPUBLICANS IN
% THE LEGISLATURE.
% ESPECIALLY ON ELECTION ISSUES.
% >> THIS IS A CLEAR CONTRAST IN
% THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S RACE.
% IF YOU WANT A CANDIDATE WHO YOU
% CAN COUNT ON TO PROTECT
% DEMOCRACY, I THINK MY TRACK
% RECORD SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
% AND MY OPPONENT'S TRACK RECORD
% SPEAKS FOR ITSELF IN A VERY
% DIFFERENT WAY.
% >> CALL REPRESENTED THE STATE IN
% NUMEROUS LAWSUITS FILED BEFORE
% AND AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION, AND
% SAYS A REPUBLICAN COULDN'T BE
% TRUSTED TO DO THE SAME.
% >> THAT'S A REAL CONCERN THAT I
% HAVE, IS THAT IF THERE IS
% REPUBLICAN CONTROL, THAT THEY
% WOULD OVERRULE THE WILL OF THE
% PEOPLE.
% AND I'M WORRIED THAT IF ERIC
% TONEY WERE A.G., THAT HE WOULD
% POTENTIALLY SUGGEST THAT, YOU
% KNOW, FALSELY THAT LAWS WERE
% BROKEN OR THAT THERE WAS FRAUD.
% AND AGAIN, HE HAS SUGGESTED THAT
% LAWS WERE BROKEN IN 2020,
% DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS HAS
% BEEN LITIGATED IN CASE AFTER
% CASE AFTER CASE.
% >> THAT'S INCREDIBLY
% DISINGENUOUS AND DISHONEST OF
% OUR ATTOR ATTORNEY GENERAL TO MA
% STATEMENT LIKE THAT.
% >>
% >> ERIC TONEY IS ONE OF THE FEW
% REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES IN THIS
% ELECTION CYCLE TO CLEARLY STATE
% DONALD TRUMP LOST WISCONSIN IN
% 2020.%>> I'VE BEEN THE MOST
VOCAL
% STATEWIDE SAYING WE CANNOT
% DECERTIFY THE ELECTION THAT IT'S
% NOT LAWFUL --
% >> THAT DOESN'T MEAN TONEY AND
% KAUL AGREE ON ELECTION ISSUES.
% TONEY SAYS THE MEMBERS OF THE
% WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
% COULD HAVE BEEN PROSECUTED FOR
% THE GUIDANCE THEY ISSUED TO
% LOCAL CLERKS.
% >> WEC EXCEEDED THEIR LAWFUL
% AUTHORITY IN DIRECTING THESE
% CLERKS TO EFFECTIVELY BREAK
% WISCONSIN LAW.
% >> KAUL SAYS NO MATTER TONEY'S
% PRIOR STATEMENTS, HE WOULDN'T
% TRUST HIM IN 2024.
% >> WHAT WE'VE SEEN, THOUGH, IS
% ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE,
% REPUBLICANS IN WISCONSIN HAVE
% BEEN UNWILLING TO STAND UP TO
% DONALD TRUMP.
% >> TONEY SAYS IN 2024, HE WILL
% FOB THE LAW.
% >> I WILL ENFORCE THE RULE OF
% LAW NOT JUST WHEN IT'S POPULAR
% AND JUST WHEN I AGREE, THAT I
% WILL NOT INJECT MY PEARNL
% BELIEFS ON OTHERS AND I WILL
% FOLLOW THE LAW.
% >> HE SAYS THAT APPLIES TO
% ANOTHER AREA OF CONTENTION IN
% THIS ELECTION, ABORTION,
% SPECIFICALLY ENFORCING
% WISCONSIN'S 1849 LAW THAT BANS
% ALL ABORTION EXCEPT TO SAVE THE
% LIFE OF THE MOTHER.
% >> I'VE BEEN VERY CLEAR AS A DA
% AND AS ATTORNEY GENERAL I'M
% GOING TO ENFORCE THE LAW.
% RIGHT NOW THAT MEANS WE HAVE AN
% ABORTION BAN ON THE BOOKS HERE
% IN WISCONSIN.
% AND I WILL ENFORCE THAT AS A
% D.A. AND I WILL ENFORCE AND
% DEFEND THAT AS OUR ATTORNEY
% GENERAL.%>> JOSH KAUL HAS FIL
ED A LAWSUIT
% SEEKING TO OVERTURN THAT LAW AND
% HAS SAID HE WILL NOT ENFORCE IT
% AS ATTORNEY GENERAL.
% >> THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF
% JUSTICE HAS ABOUT A HUNDRED
% INVESTIGATORS, AS WELL AS A
% NUMBER OF PROSECUTORS, PUTTING
% THOSE RESOURCES TOWARDS GOING
% AFTER DOCTORS OR NURSES OR
% SPOUSES OR PARENTS FOR VIOLATING
% THAT 19TH CENTURY ABORTION BAN.
% FIRST IS WRONG BUT ON TOP OF
% THAT WOULD BE SHIFTING RESOURCES
% FROM PROTECTING PUBLIC SAFETY.
% >> NOT ONLY WOULD TONEY ENFORCE
% THE 1849 ABORTION BAN, HE WOULD
% ASK THE LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW
% ADJOINING COUNTIES TO BRING
% CASES IF THE LOCAL D.A. WON'T
% PROSECUTE.%>> WE NEED TO GIVE
OUR ATTORNEY
% GENERAL THE AUTHORITY TO
% PROSECUTE.
% THEY ALREADY WOULD HAVE THE
% TECHNICAL AUTHORITY TO
% INVESTIGATE IT.
% AND I THINK ANOTHER APPROACH
% WOULD BE ALLOWING FOR ADJOINING
% COUNTIES TO BE ABLE TO
% INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE THAT
% ABORTION BAN IN WISCONSIN.
% >> WHAT WE DO IN WISCONSIN IN
% THESE ELECTIONS MAKES SUCH A BIG
% DIFFERENCE.
% THE MARGINS ARE SMALL, BUT THE
% CONSEQUENCES ARE HUGE.
% >> JOSH KAUL THINKS THIS IS THE
% TYPE OF ISSUE THAT SWINGS
% ELECTIONS AND MAY MAKE THE
% DIFFERENCE IN A TIGHT RACE.
% >> I DO THINK THAT THIS IS GOING
% TO IMPACT THE ELECTION.
% I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY
% HAVE VOTED REPUBLICAN WHEN
% THEY -- WHEN THEY KNEW THERE WAS
% A CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION FOR
% ACCESS TO SAFE AND LEGAL
% ABORTION WHO ARE NOW SEEING HOW
% EXTREME REPUBLICAN, INCLUDING MY
% OPPONENT, ARE ON THIS ISSUE.
% >> TONEY SAYS IN THE END, IT
% WILL COME DOWN TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
% >> JOSH KAUL HAS BEEN LOCKSTEP
% WITH TONY EVERS WHERE WE NEED AN
% ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT IS GOING
% TO STAND WITH OUR LAW
% ENFORCEMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY AND
% THE RULE OF LAW.
% >> FOR MORE ON THIS AND OTHER
% ISSUES FACING WISCONSIN, VISIT
% OUR WEBSITE AT PBSWISCONSIN.ORG,
% THEN CLICK ON THE NEWS TAB.
% AND TO LEARN ABOUT ALL THE
% CANDIDATES IN NOVEMBER, VISIT
% WISCONSINVOTE.ORG.%THAT IS OU
R PROGRAM FOR TONIGHT.
% I'M ZAC SCHULTZ.
% HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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