% >> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A
% "HERE & NOW" 2022 ELECTION
% SPECIAL.%>> THE CAMPAIGN COMM
ERCIALS ADD
% FUEL TO THE FIRE.
% THE STATE'S SMOLDERING BRAIN
% DRAIN INTENSIFIES AND KEEPING
% WARM THIS WINTER WILL COME AT A
% STEEP COST.
% GOOD EVENING, I'M ZAC SCHULTS.
% A REPORT ON THE RACE FOR
% U.S. SENATE AND THE IMPACT OF
% PAROLE BECOMING POLITICAL AND
% THE EXODUS OF YOUNG PEOPLE MEANS
% FOR THE STATE'S ECONOMY AND HOW
% TO SAVE ON ENERGY COSTS WITH
% EFFICIENCY PLANNING.
% IT'S "HERE & NOW" FOR SEPTEMBER %
30.
% >> FUNDING IS PROVIDED BY THE
% FOCUS FUND FOR JOURNALISM AND
% FRIENDS OF PBS WISCONSIN.
% >> THE RACE FOR A SEAT IN THE
% U.S. SENATE BETWEEN INCUMBENT
% RON JOHNSON AND CHALLENGER
% MENDELA BARNES MAY DECIDE WHO
% CONTROLS THE CHAMBER.
% WE HAVE THIS REPORT ON THE
% CONTEST BETWEEN THE SENIOR
% CENTER AND THE STATE'S
% LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
% >> THE COST OF EVERYTHING IS UP.
% NUMEROUS POLLS SHOW INFLATION IS
% THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN AMONG
% VOTERS.
% >> DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIES.
% >> POLITICAL CANDIDATES
% INCLUDING RON JOHNSON AND
% MENDELA BARNES WANT WIS VIS --
% ISCONSIN VOTERS TO KNOW THEY'RE
% LISTENING.
% >> ACROSS THE STATE PEOPLE ARE
% CONCERNED WITH RISING COSTS.
% >> BARNES IS CURRENTLY SERVING
% AS THE STATE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
% AND THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PLANS
% FOR ADDRESSING INFLATION.
% SENATOR JOHNSON SAID THE
% GOVERNMENT IS HIGH GOVERNMENT
% SPENDING.%>> STOP SPENDING S
O MUCH MONEY.
% INFLATION IS EASY TO UNDERSTAND
% OF UNDERSTAND WHAT CAUSES IT.
% IT'S MASSIVE DEBT AND SPENDING
% AND WE HAVE TOO MANY DOLLARS
% CHASING TOO FEW GOODS.
% >> TARGETED TAX CHANGES ARE
% NEEDED.
% >> WE NEED A MIDDLE-CLASS TAX
% CUT AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THE
% WEALTH AMONG US PAY THEIR FAIR
% SHARE.%THAT'S HOW WE GET TO A
PLACE
% WHERE FAMILIES CAN HAVE ECONOMIC
% SECURITY.%>> ELEANOR POWELL
SAID THE PAIN
% MIGHT MOTIVATE THOSE WHO DON'T
% NORMALLY VOTE.
% >> BETWEEN THE PANDEMIC, ECONOMY
% AND INFLATION, A LOT PEOPLE ARE
% HURTING AND IT CAN BRING OUT
% MORE DISCONTENTED VOTERS.
% >> Reporter: THERE'S ANOTHER
% ISSUE THAT IS HIGHLY MOTIVATING
% IN THE CONTEST BETWEEN BARNES
% AND JOHNSON AND THAT'S ABORTION.
% >> WOMEN AND YOUNGER VOTERS ARE
% UPSET BY THE OVERTURNING OF ROE
% VS. WADE AND POLITICIAN POLITICS
% IN WISCONSIN WE HAD A PRE
% EXISTING BAN ON THE BOOKS.
% THIS MOBILIZED A LOT OF MERENER
% AND IT'S ANGER AND MOBILIZATION.
% >> Reporter: BARNES IS CALLING
% FOR A NEW FEDERAL LAW ALLOWING
% ACCESS TO ABORTION.
% TO ACHIEVE THIS HE WANTS TO END
% THE FILIBUSTER IN THE CENTER.
% FILIBUSTER IS A TACTIC USED TO
% PREVENT A BILL FOR PASSING BY
% STALLING IT WITH PROLONGED
% DEBATE.
% >> WE NEED TO END THE FILIBUSTER
% TO CODIFY IT INTO LAW ONCE AND
% FOR ALL AND WE CAN DO THIS IF WE
% FLIP WISCONSIN AND ADD ONE MORE
% SEAT TO THE 50/50 QUOTE, UNQUOTE
% MAJORITY.%>> Reporter: JOHNS
ON WHO OPPOSES
% ABORTION EXCEPT FOR CASES OF
% RAPE AND IF THE MOTHER'S LAW IS
% AT STAKE, SAID STATES SHOULD USE
% REFERENDUMS.%>> HERE'S THE QU
ESTION, OF THE
% PROFOUND MORAL ISSUE, AT WHAT
% POINT DOES SOCIETY HAVE THE
% RESPONSIBILITY TO SAVE A LIVE
% AND BALANCE THE RIGHTS OF A
% WOMAN VERSUS THE UNBORN CHILD.
% >> Reporter: WISCONSIN LAW DOES
% NOT CURRENTLY ALLOW DIRECT
% REFERENDUMS.
% >> THE SPEAKS WELL TRUMP WING OF
% THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
% LIEUTENANT GOVERN BARNES AND
% REPRESENTS A NEW GENERATION IN
% AMERICAN POLITICS.
% HE'S TRYING TO SPEAK TO YOUNGER
% VOTERS, VOTERS OF COLOR, VOTERS
% WHO OFTEN FEEL THEIR INTERESTS
% AREN'T BEING WELL REPRESENTED IN
% WASHINGTON.
% >> Reporter: BARNES AND JOHNSON
% TOOK VERY DIFFERENT PATHS INTO
% POLITICS.
% MENDELA BARNES WAS BORN AND
% RAISED IN MILWAUKEE AND PROUD OF
% HIS WORKING-CLASS ROOTS.
% >> MOM WAS A TEACHER AND MY DAD
% WORKED A SHIRT.
% >> Reporter: AFTER WORKING IN
% COMMUNITY ORGANIZING HE RAN FOR
% OFFICE SEAT AND AFTER TWO HE RAN
% UNSUCCESSFULLY FOR THE STATE
% SENATE IN 2016 BEFORE WINNING
% ELECTION AS LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR
% WITH TONY EVERS.
% IN HIS RUN FOR U.S. SENATE
% BARNES SAID HIS GOAL IS TO HELP
% MIDDLE-CLASS AMERICANS.
% >> TIMES ARE GETTING TOUGHER FOR
% PEOPLE.%THINGS ARE MORE DIFF
ICULT.
% IT'S HARDER AND HARDER TO GET
% AHEAD, ACCESS TO MIDDLE CLASS IS
% DENYING MANY PEOPLE.
% >> Reporter: AND RON JOHNSON WHO
% LIVES IN OSHKOSH IS EQUALLY AS
% PROUD OF HIS WORKING-CLASS
% BACKGROUND.
% >> WE SHOVELLED PATHWAYS.
% >> Reporter: AND HE MEET RUSS
% FINEGOLD AND IN THE SENATE,
% JOHNSON SERVED ON HOMELAND
% SECURITY AND BUDGET COMMITTEES.
% YOU SAID YOU WOULD ONLY RUN FOR
% TWO TERMS, JANUARY YOU DECIDED
% YOU'D RUN AGAIN.
% WHAT MADE YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND?
% >> OUR NATION'S COMING A PART.
% TRUST ME, IT WAS MY PREFERENCE
% AND MY WIFE'S VERY STRONG
% PREFERENCE TO SERVE OUT THE
% SECOND TERM AND RETURN TO A
% PRIVATE LIFE.
% I THINK I'M IN A POSITION WHERE
% I'VE HAD SUCCESS AS A
% U.S. SENATOR AND HELPED IMPROVE
% THINGS.%>> Reporter: WHILE B
OTH ARE
% TRYING TO STAY ON MESSAGE,
% JOHNSON AND BARNES HAVE PLENTY
% OF CRITICISM FOR EACH OTHER.
% >> HE'S A RADICAL LEFTIST.
% HE'S TRYING TO HIDE THAT FROM
% WISCONSIN ITS.
% >> Reporter: THIS IS ABOUT AN
% OUT OF TOUCH POLITICIAN WHO
% FAILED TO DELIVER FOR WISCONSIN
% AND PUT HIMSELF AHEAD OF ALL OF
% US EVERY CHANCE.
% >> Reporter: THE CANDIDATES
% AREN'T THE ONLY ONES GETTING IN
% THE MUD SLINGING.
% OUTSIDE GROUPS ARE RUNNING THEIR
% OWN ADS.
% >> RON JOHNSON USED HIS OFFICE
% TO SCOOP UP MILLIONS AND MENDELA
% BARNES SUPPORTS --
% >> Reporter: PEOPLE SHOULD BE
% WARY.
% >> POLITICAL ADS ARE AN EXEMPT
% CATEGORY WHERE PEOPLE CAN SAY
% WHAT THEY WANT AND THERE'S NO
% OBLIGATION FOR ANYTHING TO BE
% FACTUAL.%BUYERS AND VIEWERS S
HOULD BE
% AWARE JUST BECAUSE IT'S ON TV
% DOESN'T MEAN IT'S TRUE.
% >> WE KNEW THE OTHER SIDE WOULD
% MAKE UP LIVES ABOUT THE TO SCARE
% YOU.
% YOU'VE SEEN THE ADS ATTACKING
% ME, THEY'RE ALL LIES.
% >> Reporter: STILL BOTH
% CANDIDATES HAVE THEIR
% CONTROVERSIES.%JOHNSON HAS CO
ME UNDER FIRE FOR
% SPREADING MISINFORMATION ABOUT
% COVID-19 AND THE PLAN TO GIVE
% THEN-VICE PRESIDENT A MAKE PENCE
% OF FAKE SLATE OF PRESIDENTIAL
% ELECTE
% EELEC
% EELECTED PEOPLE AND THERE'S TWO
% INDEPENDENT SENATORS.
% GIVEN THE SPLIT, WISCONSIN
% ELECTION IS KEY.
% >> CONTROL OF THE SENATE HINGES
% ON OUR RAZOR THIN MAJORITY.
% WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO
% DETERMINE WHO CONTROLS THE
% SENATE.
% WISCONSIN MAY BE THE BALL GAME
% HERE.%IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE
OUTCOME OF
% THE RACE YOU SHOULD SHOW UP ON
% ELECTION DAY.
% WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO
% HAPPEN.
% >> Reporter: FOR "HERE & NOW"
% I'M STEVEN POTTER.
% >> Zac: REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING
% TO MAKE CRIME A BIG ISSUE THIS
% FALL.%TIM MICHELS RECEIVED A
PANTS ON
% FIRE FOR MISREPRESENTING A
% RECORD ON PAROLES AND PARDONS
% BUT HASN'T STOPPED IT FROM
% APPEARING IN CAMPAIGN ADS.
% >> WHAT PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW IS
% THAT A WHOLE BUNCH OF FOLKS ARE
% MANDTORIAL RELEASED FROM PRISON.
% THE PAROLE COMMISSION HAS NO
% RIGHT TO CHANGE THAT.
% THEY REACH A DATE AND THEY'RE
% LET GO.
% DO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOME
% CHANGES OVER TIME?
% ABSOLUTELY, THINK WE SHOULD LOOK
% AT THAT.
% >> FOR MORE WE TURN TO JEROME
% DILLARD OF EX-INCARCERATED
% PEOPLE ORGANIZING.
% AN ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS TO
% REFORM THE PENAL SYSTEM.
% THANKS FOR YOUR TIME, TODAY.
% >> MY PLEASURE, ZAC.
% >> Zac: WHAT'S THE ISSUE WHEN
% THIS GETS POLITICIZED?
% >> IT'S THE TOUGH ON CRIME
% RHETORIC THAT WORKED WELL IN THE
% '90s AND SURPRISED TO SEE IT
% RAISED AT THIS POINT IN TIME BUT
% THE FACTS AREN'T THERE.
% AND OFTEN TIMES OUTRIGHT LIES
% ARE BEING SAID HOW OUR PAROLE
% SYSTEM WORKS AND ALL THESE
% VIOLENT CRIMINALS.
% THE SCARE TACTICS I KNOW FOR A
% FACT THAT THE PAROLE
% COMMISSIONER AND GOVERNOR EVERS
% AND ANY OTHER GOVERNOR ARE
% FOLLOWING THE LAW.
% IT IS LAW THAT WHEN A PERSON IS
% SENTENCED 22 YEARS AGO, OVER 22
% YEARS, A JUDGE HAD IN MIND WHAT
% THE SENTENCE SHOULD LOOK LIKE
% AND KNEW THEY SHOULD BE ELIGIBLE
% FOR PAROLE AFTER 25% AND GOOD
% INSTITUTIONAL ADJUSTMENT AND
% DOING THEIR PROGRAMMING THAT
% MADE THEM MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO BE
% IN PAROLE.
% THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS NOT
% ONLY IS THAT PAROLE BUT THERE'S
% MANDATORY RELEASE DATES ATTACHED
% TO THOSE SENTENCES SO A JUDGE
% COULD BE 80 YEARS.
% I KNOW THAT 20 YEARS, I WOULD BE
% ELIGIBLE IF I BEHAVED MYSELF AND
% AT 75% THAT'S MANDATORY RELEASE
% DATE FOR ME.
% >> WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON PEOPLE
% WHO ARE TRYING TO RE-ENTER INTO
% SOCIETY AND TRYING TO START OVER
% WHEN THEY HEAR MESSAGES LIKE
% THIS?
% >> YOU KNOW, I HEAR THEIR
% STORIES.
% LAST YEAR WE HAD A BANQUET WITH
% MANY MANY OR OLD LAW, THAT'S
% WHAT WE REFERRED TO, OLD-LAW
% PAROLEES AND IF YOU DO THE AND
% IF LOOK INTO THE RECIDIVISM
% RATES OF THOSE WHO WERE RELEASED
% ON PAROLE UNDER THE
% ADMINISTRATION ARE JUST GOING TO
% STICK TO THE LAST FOUR YEARS.
% NONE HAVE BEEN RE-INCARCEATED
% FOR A VIOLENT CRIME AND TAKING
% CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES AND A
% KNOW FROM TALKING TO MANY
% INDIVIDUALS.
% MANY I MET AS YOUNG MEN IN
% MAXIMUM SECURITY PRISONS WHO
% STRIVE HARD TO CHANGE THEIR
% LIVES AND THEY THOUGHT ABOUT THE
% ENVIRONMENT THEY COME FROM AND
% SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE.
% THEY'VE REPENTED AND REALLY
% ADJUSTED REAL WELL IN
% CORRECTIONS AND ONCE THEY'RE
% BACK IN THE STREETS, THEY'RE
% THRIVING ONCE THEY'RE BACK,
% THEY'RE THRIVING IN OUR
% COMMUNITY.
% >> Zac: WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO
% SEE DONE TO CHANGE EVEN THE WAY
% PAROLES ARE HANDLED OR THE WAY
% THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THEM OR
% THE WAY THE WHOLE SYSTEM WORKS?
% >> I THINK THE PUBLIC NEEDS TO
% BE EDUCATED ON HOW PAROLE WORKS.
% DEF
% >> I THINK GIVING THE STORY OF
% THE VOICE OF THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN
% PAROLED 40 YEARS AGO, 10 YEARS
% AGO AND WHERE THEY ARE NOW WOULD
% SHED MORE LIGHT ON TO PEOPLE
% CHANGE AND DESERVE A SECOND
% CHANCE.
% I KNOW I DID.
% >> Zac: THE ISSUE OF HOW TO MAKE
% REFORMS WITHIN THE SYSTEM
% BECOMES POLITICIZED AND WHAT IS
% SAID WILL GO TO THE NEXT
% SESSION.
% >> THERE'S MANY COLLATERAL
% CONSEQUENCES TO HAVING A
% CONVICTION RECORD.
% A LOT OF WHAT WE'RE SPEAKING ON
% ARE SOME OF THE COLLATERAL S
% LIKE THE RIGHT TO VOTE, AS LONG
% AS YOU'RE ON SUPERVISION YOU
% CAN'T CAST A BALLOT IN THIS
% STATE.
% IN THE MIDWEST WE'RE ONE OF
% THOSE THAT STILL KEEP THE
% POLICIES IN PLACE YOU HAVE TO
% COMPLETELY FULFILL YOUR SENTENCE
% BEFORE YOU CAN CAST THE BALLOT.
% THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, OUR
% TERMS OF SUPERVISION, WE'RE THE
% THIRD HIGHEST AS LONG AS HOW
% LONG SOMEONE IS ON SUPERVISION
% AND SOME ARE IN SUPERVISION 20
% YEARS AND TWO OF MY STAFF
% MEMBERS WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
% VOTE UNTIL 2042, 2044.
% YET, STILL THEY'VE BEEN IN THE
% COMMUNITY WORKING FOR A COUPLE
% YEARS NOW PAYING TAXES BUT STILL
% NOT FEELING THEY'RE PART OF
% AMERICA, PERIOD.
% >> Zac: FOR SOMEONE BEING
% RELEASED TODAY, THEY'RE COMING
% INTO AN ENVIRONMENT WITH
% EXTREMELY LOW UNEMPLOYMENT BUT
% HOUSING SHORTAGES AND HIGH
% INFLATION.%SO WHAT IS IT LIKE
?
% WHAT'S THE ENVIRONMENT THEY'RE
% COMING INTO?
% >> YOU'RE RIGHT.
% GETTING A JOB NOW IS -- A FEW
% YEARS AGO THAT WAS ONE OF THE
% MAIN BARRIERS WAS FINDING
% EMPLOYMENT.
% AND TODAY HOUSING IS A HUGE
% ISSUE.
% THAT'S WHY SO MANY NONPROFITS
% NOW ARE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN
% HELP THEM BY HOUSING THEM.
% YOU CAN HAVE A JOB BUT IF YOU
% DON'T HAVE STABLE LIVING HOW ARE
% YOU TO MAINTAIN A JOB?
% HOW ARE YOU TO MAINTAIN YOUR
% HYGIENE AND BE SHARP WHEN YOU GO
% TO WORK IF YOU CAN'T GET A GOOD
% NIGHT'S SLEEP?
% IF YOU'RE SLEEPING ON A PARK
% BENCH OR IN A SHELTER IT MAKES
% IT COMPLICATED.
% >> Zac: YOU'RE GROUP HAS BEEN
% AROUND SINCE 2014.
% WE HAVE A FEW SECONDS LEFT.
% DESCRIBE THE BIGGEST PROGRESS
% YOU'VE SEEN IN THE ISSUES ON
% THIS TIME?
% >> I HAVE SEEN SOME PROGRESS AN
% I HAVE TO SAY THIS
% ADMINISTRATION AND THE
% DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS HAVE
% MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS THAT THEY
% COULD, THAT'S WITHIN THEIR
% BOUNDARIES OR FULFILLING WHAT
% THEY COULD LIKE EXTENDING THE
% RELEASE.
% THEY SAID THEY'RE RELEASING
% DANGEROUS CRIMINALS, THE
% PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION RELEASED
% MORE THAN THIS ADMINISTRATION
% HAS BUT YET THERE WAS NOTHING
% SAID BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE HAD
% MET THEIR MANDATORY RELEASE
% DATE.
% I FEEL OUR PAROLE COMMISSIONER
% DID A GREAT JOB.
% WE CAN LOOK AT HIS RECIDIVISM
% RATES AND THOSE WHO WERE PAROLED
% IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND
% THERE'S -- IT'S AMAZING.
% IT'S REMARKABLE HOW LOW IT IS.
% >> Zac: WE'LL HAVE TO LEAVE IT
% THERE.
% THAT'S ALL THE TIME.
% JEROME DILLARD THANK YOU FOR THE
% TIME.%>> I APPRECIATE YOU HA
VING ME.
% >> Zac: A NEW REPORT SAYS
% WISCONSIN'S WORKFORCE IS
% EXPECTED TO DWINDLE IN THE NEXT
% DECADE WITHOUT AN INCREASE IN
% OUTSIDE MIGRATION BY 2030 THE
% WORKING AGE POPULATION WILL
% SHRINK BY AN ESTIMATED 130,000
% UNLESS WE FIND A WAY TO KEEP
% YOUNG PEOPLE FROM LEAVING OR
% CONVINCING TO HAVE FAMILIES HERE
% AND THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION PART
% OF THE WISCONSIN COUNTY
% ASSOCIATION.%THANKS FOR YOUR
TIME TODAY.
% >> GOOD TO BE HERE.
% >> YOU USE CENSUS DATA TO TRACK
% THE INFLOW AND OUTFLOW FROM
% WISCONSIN AND THE BABY BOOMERS
% AGE INTO RETIREMENT WE HAVE A
% MAJOR SHORTAGE.
% >> THE FIRST BABY BOOM RETIRED
% AND THAT HAD AN EFFECT.
% THE SECOND HALF IS NOW AGING
% INTO THAT AND THEY'RE ABOUT 20%
% BIGGER SO THAT IS GOING TO --
% AND WE DON'T HAVE REALLY ENOUGH
% YOUNG PEOPLE COMING UP BEHIND
% THEM TO REPLACE THEM.
% SO THE SOLUTION -- THE ONLY
% SOLUTION IF WE DON'T WANT TO SEE
% THAT BIG DECLINE IS MIGRATION
% FROM OTHER STATES OR OTHER %
COUNTRIES.
% >> Zac: SO THE LACK OR ABSENCE
% OF WORKERS WILL BE FELT MORE
% SEVERELY IN CERTAIN AREAS OR
% SPREAD ACROSS THE WHOLE ECONOMY?
% >> IT WILL BE SPREAD ACROSS THE
% WHOLE ECONOMY.
% WE'LL SEE IT EVERYWHERE.
% PROBABLY YOU'LL SEE A BIGGER
% IMPACT IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN.
% THE POPULATION TENDS TO BE OLDER
% AS IT IS AND FEWER YOUNG PEOPLE
% SO IT WILL BE A LITTLE MORE
% ACUTE THERE BUT WE'LL SEE IT
% EVERYWHERE.%>> YOUR REPORT T
ALKS A LOT ABOUT
% YOUNG PEOPLE AND ANYONE WHO GREW
% UP IN WISCONSIN AND WENT TO
% COLLEGE SAW THIS HAPPEN AND YOU
% GO TO WISCONSIN AND EXPLORE THE
% WORLD AND SOME COME BACK HOME TO
% RAISE A FAMILY.
% HOW DO YOU ENCOURAGE THAT?
% IS THAT A STATE SOLUTION OR
% BUSINESS OR EMPLOYER SOLUTION?
% >> IT'S A PUBLIC-PRIVATE WORKING
% TOGETHER SOLUTION.
% ONE, WE NEED TO TRY TO LIMIT THE
% NUMBER OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT
% WE'RE LOSING.
% WE'RE GOING TO LOSE A
% SIGNIFICANT NUMBER, AS YOU SAID,
% THEY WANT TO GET OUT THERE.
% BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE FIND IS
% WHEN YOU LOOK AT AVERAGE WAGES
% FOR WHITE COLLAR EDUCATION AND
% COLLEGE GRADUATE OCCUPATIONS
% THEY'RE GOING INTO WE TEND TO BE
% 10% TO 15% BELOW THE NATIONAL
% AVERAGE IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESS
% SECTOR THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND
% THAT AND IF THEY WANT TO KEEP
% THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE HERE, THEY
% HAVE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE
% COMPETITIVE.
% AND I THINK THERE'S A ROLL FOR
% THE STATE AS WELL.
% WE SEE STATES, COUNTIES ACROSS
% THE COUNTRY PROVIDING INCENTIVES
% FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE TO THEIR
% STATES.%MAINE HAS BEEN A LEA
DER IN THIS.
% WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW IT
% LOOKS BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE
% CAN INNOCENT -- GIVE INCENTIVE
% TO MOVE BACK HERE.
% >>
% >> THE PLACES YOU TALK ABOUT
% PEOPLE MOVING TO ARE HAVING
% NATURAL DISASTERS.
% HOW CAN CLIMATE CHANGE BE MORE
% DESIRABLE TO EVERYONE NOT JUST
% NATIVES?
% >> THERE'S INCREASE DISCUSSION
% AROUND THE NOTION THAT OVER TIME
% WISCONSIN, WITH ALL ITS WATER
% RESOURCES, IS GOING TO LOOK MORE
% AND MORE DESIRABLE FOR
% INDIVIDUALS AND FOR BUSINESSES.
% SO THAT MAY PLAY A ROLE IN THE
% NEAR TERM NOT SO MUCH.
% IT'S MORE OF A LONGER-TERM
% PATTERN WE END UP SEEING.
% >> Zac: WHAT SHOULD WE DO TO BE
% PREPARED.
% SHOULD THE STATE DO MORE AT THIS
% TIME OR MAKING EVERYONE AWARE OF
% THE SOLUTION?
% LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
% >> I THINK THE SOLUTION TO OUR
% CHALLENGE IS REALLY TARGETING
% WHAT I CALL THE FAMILY
% FORMATION.%THAT'S WHAT WE'VE
ALWAYS BEEN
% STRONG IN IN TERMS OF MIGRATION.
% IT'S DESIGNING INCENTIVES FOR
% THAT AGE GROUP TO MOVE HERE.
% AND I THINK IT'S ALSO -- THERE'S
% AN EDUCATION COMPONENT TO THIS
% THAT IF YOU GO OUTSIDE THE
% MIDWEST, PEOPLE KNOW VERY LITTLE
% ABOUT WISCONSIN EXCEPT THAT IT'S
% COLD AND WE HAVE CHEESE AND THE
% PACKERS AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.
% SO PART OF IT IS EDUCATING THEM
% ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE
% GREAT SCHOOLS WE HAVE AND
% RELATIVELY LOW CRIME.
% ALL THOSE THINGS THAT FAMILIES
% ARE LOOKING FOR BECAUSE ONCE
% THEY KNOW ABOUT IT AND ONCE YOU
% GET THEM HERE, MOST OF THEM
% STAY.%SO I THINK THAT'S THE
ROLE THAT
% I THINK THE STATE CAN PLAY.
% >> Zac: AND THOSE OF US STILL
% SAY WE DON'T NEED MORE PEOPLE.
% WE LIKE THE SPACE WE HAVE.
% THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE.
% THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
% >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
% >>
% >> A LOT OF THE FURNACES TURNED
% ON THIS WEEK AND THE COST OF
% KEEPING IT RUNNING THIS WINTER
% !S EXPECTED TO MAKE A BIG JUMP.
% THE NATIONAL ENERGY ASSISTANCE
% DIRECTOR'S ASSOCIATION SAID THE
% AVERAGE OF HEAT HOME WILL RISE
% 17% COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AND
% WITH US IS CHAD LAIBLY.
% THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
% WHEN A REPORT LIKE THIS COMES
% OUTS DO YOU SEE AN INCREASE.
% THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE REALIZING
% WINTER'S ABOUT DO -- TO COME?
% >> ESPECIALLY WITH THE COLD SNAP
% WE
% WE SEE INQUIRIES.
% >> Zac: WHAT DO YOU TELL THEM?
% >> PREPARE THE HOUSE FOR WINTER.
% GET A SMART THERMOSTAT.
% WE HAVE REBATES AND LOOK TO
% INSULATE BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT THE
% NEXT TWO OR THREE MONTHS THE
% SCHEDULE PACKED FOR COMPANIES.
% >> Zac: HOW MUCH MONEY CAN
% SOMEONE SAVE ON ENERGY COST
% COMPARED TO THE COST OF
% WEATHERIZING?%ARE THERE TWO
SCALES?
% >> QUITE A BIT.
% A DEEP RETROFIT CAN SAVE UP TO
% 30% WHICH IS QUITE A LOT.
% DOING A MINOR JOB WITH JUST THE
% ATTIC MAY SAVE 10% AND 15% AND
% INSULATION TENDS TO PAY FOR
% ITSELF WITHIN SEVEN YEARS, GIVE
% OR TAKE TWO OR THREE YEARS.
% >> Zac: WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT
% THE INTERNATIONAL SUPPLY, WE
% HAVE RUSSIA AND UKRAINE AND
% FIRES AND HURRICANES.
% >> IT'S KEEPING THE ENERGY PRY
% OF PRICES THAN WE'D EXPECT.
% PROPANE HAS RISEN AND PEOPLE'S
% PROPANE MAY GO UP $30 OR SO.
% I'M SEEING MORE THAN THAT.
% >> Zac: OKAY.
% NOW, AS MUCH AS NO ONE WANTS TO
% PAY MORE FOR ENERGY, CAN RISING
% COSTS INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO
% ACTUALLY DO SOME OF THE UPGRADES
% BECAUSE THE PAY BACK IS FASTER?
% >> ABSOLUTELY.
% WE GET A LOT OF INQUIRIES
% ESPECIALLY NEXT YEAR WITH THE
% INFLATION REDUCTION ACT THERE'LL
% BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO
% SPEND A LITTLE MORE THAN THEY
% NORMALLY WOULD EVEN WHEN THEY
% HAVE LESS BECAUSE THE SAVINGS
% ARE GOING TO BE THERE.
% >> Zac: SO WITH THE INFLATION
% REDUCTION ACT AS PART OF CLIMATE
% CHANGE AND GREEN ISSUES IN
% THERE, DO WE KNOW YET WHAT'S
% GOING TO BE COMING.
% IS THAT STILL BEING FINALIZED?
% >> WE'RE SHIFTING THROUGH THE
% INFORMATION AND SEEING HOW THAT
% MONEY WILL FLOW PRACTICALLY BUT
% EXPECTING THERE TO BE GOOD
% OPPORTUNITIES PARTICULARLY WITH
% DUAL-FUEL HEAT PUMPS.
% THOSE ARE BASICALLY AN AIR
% CONDITIONER THAT ACTS IN REVERSE
% AND THE TECHNOLOGY WASN'T THERE
% AT A GOOD PRICE POINT FOR THE
% COLD CLIMATE IN WISCONSIN,
% NEGATIVE 20 IS THE SWEET SPOT
% YOU WANT THEM TO WORK TO AND NOW
% THEY DO AND THAT'S A GOOD OPTION
% BECAUSE THERE'S MONEY FOR
% RESIDENTIAL HOME OWNERS FOR THAT
% KIND OF TECHNOLOGY.
% >> Zac: WE'VE TALKED ABOUT HOME
% OWNERS BUT PEOPLE LIVE IN
% APARTMENTS.%ARE THERE THINGS
THEY CAN DO?
% >> SAME THING.
% OUR PROGRAM FOCUS ON ENERGY
% WORKS FOR RENTERS AS WELL.
% >> Zac: WHERE SHOULD THEY GO AND
% LOOK AT?
% >> THEY SHOULD LOOK AT
% WWW.FOCUSONENERGY.%OUR PROGRA
M HAS BEEN AROUND 20
% YEARS AND IT'S WELL MANAGED.
% THE MONEY DOESN'T RUN OUT
% BECAUSE IT'S SO WELL MANAGED.
% IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
% >> Zac: I'VE SEEN SOME FORECASTS
% WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN THE
% FARMER'S ALMANAC OR WANT TO GO
% WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER --
% >> I LOOKED AT MINE THE OTHER
% DAY.
% >> Zac: IT SAYS THERE'S A HIGHER
% PERCENTAGE CHANCE WE COULD HAVE
% A COLDER AND WETTER WINTER THAN
% AVERAGE.
% IT ADDS ON TO ENERGY COSTS,
% RIGHT?
% >> IT DOES.
% THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY'LL BE
% FOR HEATING YOUR HOME WHETHER
% IT'S A COOLED WINTER OR NOT AND
% HEATING COSTS ARE ON THE RISE SO
% IT'S SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF
% NOW BECAUSE THE INSULATION
% COMPANIES ARE GOING TO BE REALLY
% BUSY MOVING FORWARD.
% ALSO, IF YOU'VE CALLED AN HCAC
% COMPANY BECAUSE OF THE DUAL-FUEL
% HEAT PUMPS AND THE RISE OF COSTS
% OF GETTING MACHINES TUNED UP
% THEY'RE BUSY.
% YOU HAVE TO BE PATIENT.
% >> Zac: CHAD LAIBLY WITH FOCUS
% ON ENERGY.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >> Zac: FOR MORE ON THIS AND
% OTHER ISSUES FACING WISCONSIN
% VISIT OUR WEBSITE AT
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% NEXT FRIDAY AT 7:00 P.M. FOR THE
% U.S. SENATE DEBATE FOLLOWED BY
% LIVE "HERE & NOW" ANALYSIS.
% THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR TONIGHT.
% I'M ZAC SCHULTS.
% HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.%