NOBLE
WRAY, THANK
YOU
VERY
MUCH.%>> THANK
YOU.%>>
SO WHAT
IS
THE
SITUATION ON
%THE
GROUND
WITH
PRACTICING
COPS,
%THOSE STILL
RESPONDING
AND
%ENGAGING AND
MAKING
D
ECISIONS?
%FOR THAT
W
E
GO
TO GREEN
BAY
AND
%úCHECK IN
THERE
WITH
THE
CHIEF
OF
%POLICE, ANDREW SMITH.
%AND,
CHIEF, THANK YOU SO MUCH
%FOR
BEING
HERE.
%>> YOU'RE
WELCOME.
%GLAD TO BE
HERE.
%>>
SO I
HAVE
READ
THAT
YOU
%INTEND A
REFRESHER
COURSE
FOR
%YOUR OFFICERS IN
THE
USE
OF%FORCE IN
THE
WAKE
OF WHAT
%
HAPPENED IN
MINNEAPOLIS.
%HOW IMPORTANT DO YOU BELIEVE%
THAT KIND
OF
REGULAR
TRAINING IS
%FOR
YOUR
OFFICERS?
%>> I
THINK
IT'S
CRITICAL.
%I
THINK
OUR
OFFICERS
NEED
T
O
%KNOW
WHAT
THEIR JOB
IS.
%THEY NEED TO
KNOW
WHAT
THE
RULES
%ARE
FOR
THEIR
JOB.
%WE ALREADY STARTED
THAT.
%WE
MET WITH
ALL
OF
OUR
%SUPERVISORS JUST LAST
WEEK
AND
%WE
ALL
SAT
DOWN,
WENT OVER
THE
%MINNESOTA INCIDENT.
%WE
HAD
OUR
USE OF FORCE
TRAINERS%THERE
AND
THE
EXPECTATION
IS
%EVERY
OFFICER
WILL
RECEIVE A
%REFRESHER ON WHAT
HAPPENED
IN
%MINNEAPOLIS AND
WHAT
OUR
%EXPECTATIONS ARE
FOR
OUR
%OFFICERS.%>> D
O
YOUR
OFFICERS
USE
METHODS
%LIKE
HOLDING
HANDCUFFED
SUSPECTS
%DOWN
O
N
THEIR
NECKS?
%>>
NO.
%THAT'S
SPECIFICALLY
PROHIBITED
%BOY
OUR
POLICY.
%WE DO NOT DO
THAT.
%>>
AND
SO
I
F
YOU
HAD A
REFRESHER
%ON USE
OF
FORCE, WHAT
WERE
THE
%MOST
COGENT
TAKE-AWAYS
FROM
THAT
%FOR
YOUR
OFFICERS?
%>>
WELL,
W
E
GAVE
THEM
KIND
OF A
%LITTLE BIT
OF AN
OVERVIEW
ABOUT
%WHY
WE'RE
ABLE
T
O
USE
FORCE,
%UNDER
WHAT
SITUATIONS
FORCE
IS
%APPROPRIATE.
%BUT ALSO
WE
TALKED
ABOUT
THE
%OFFICER
OVERRIDE.
%IF
YOU
SEE
ANOTHER
OFFICER
USING
%FORCE THAT'S
UNAUTHORIZED
O
R
%MISAPPLYING
FORCE, W
E
BELIEVE
%IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY
O
F
THOSE
%OFFICERS TO
STOP
THAT
FROM
%HAPPENING.
%AND THAT
WAS
REITERATED ALONG
%WITH
THE
BASIC RULES
OF
YOU
%DON'T PUT
YOUR
KNEE
O
N
SOMEONE'S
%NECK.
%YOU
DON'T
PUT
THEM DOWN TO THE
%GROUND AND
HOLD
THEM
DOWN
PINNED
%LIKE THAT.
%IF
SOMEONE'S
GASPING FOR
AIR OR
%CALLING FOR
HELP,
YOU
TAKE
THAT
%AS A SERIOUS
INCIDENT
THAT
NEEDS%TO BE
ACTED
ON.
%>>
YOU
SAY LAW ENFORCEMENT
HAS A
%LONG
WAY TO G
O
IN TERMS
OF
%ACCOUNTABILITY.
%HOW
SO?
%
>>
WELL,
I
THINK
IT'S A
TOUGH
%JOB
OUT
THERE,
AND
THERE'S A
LOT
%OF
GREAT
OFFICERS
DOING
GREAT
%WORK EVERY
DAY.
%BUT
I
THINK
WE
ALL
COME ACROSS
%THE
BAD
APPLE
THAT
YOU HEAR
%ABOUT.
%WE
COME
ACROSS
OFFICERS WHO
HAVE%A LONG
HISTORY OF
GETTING IN
%TROUBLE.
%AND
I
THINK
IT'S
AWFUL
TOUGH
TO
%FIRE
SOMEONE,
QUITE
FRANKLY,
%THAT
NEEDS TO BE
FIRED HERE IN
%WISCONSIN.
%SO
I
THINK
IT'S
INCUMBENT
UPON
%THE
CHIEFS
OF
POLICE
TO
MAKE
%SURE THEY ARE
HOLDING
THEIR
%OFFICERS
ACCOUNTABLE.%WE
HAVE A
CIVILIAN
POLICE
AND
%FIRE
COMMISSION
IN GREEN
BAY
%THAT
HOLDS
M
E
ACCOUNTABLE.
%I
THINK ACROSS
THE
BOARD
AND
%ACROSS THE
COUNTRY,
%ACCOUNTABILITY IS
LACKING
AND
%IT'S REALLY
TOUGH
T
O
FIRE A
BAD
%OFFICER.%>>
YOU
MARCHED
WITH
PROTESTERS
%IN YOUR
CITY
LAST
WEEKEND.
%
WHAT
WAS
THAT
LIKE
?
%>>
WELL,
IT'S
NOT
THE FIRST
TIME
%I'VE
MARCHED
WITH
PROTESTERS.
%COMING
FROM
LOS ANGELES, I'VE
%DONE
THAT
MANY
TIMES.
%BUT I
WAS
QUITE
HAPPY TO
BE
%INVITED INTO
THE
PROTEST
WHEN
%THEY ASKED
ME
TO
MARCH
WITH
%THEM.
%AND OF COURSE I
DID.
%AND
WHAT
REALLY I
WANTED T
O
DO
%WAS
HAVE
THE
OPPORTUNITY TO
%LISTEN TO
PEOPLE, T
O
HEAR
WHAT
%THEY
SAY,
TO
HEAR
WHAT
THEY'RE
%CONCERNED ABOUT.
%I
UNDERSTAND THEIR
ANGER
AND
%FRUSTRATION,
BUT I
WANTED
TO
%HEAR IT FROM
THE
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
%MARCHING.
%WHAT'S
ON
YOU
R
MIND.
%WHAT CAN
WE
DO
BETTER
AS A%POLICE
DEPARTMENT HERE
IN GREEN
%BAY.%>>
BEFORE THAT
YOU
COMMENTED
%ABOUT
HOW GEORGE
FLOYD
DIED
%SAYING IT
SICKENED
YOU
AND IT
%WAS
ONE OF
THE
MOST
HORRIBLE
%THINGS YOU
HAD
EVER
SEEN.
%WHILE
READING YOUR
ABOUT
HOW
YOU
%MARCHED
WITH
THE
PROTESTERS,
W
E
%ALSO CAME
UPON AN ARTICLE
AND
IT
%GIVES
ME
NO
P
LEASURE TO
RAISE
%THIS,
ABOUT A
FAMILY
WHOSE
LOVED
%ONE WAS
KILLED
BY
POLICE
BULLETS
%IN
YOUR CITY AND
THEY
CALLED YOU
%OUT
FOR
YOUR
HYPOCRISY,
SAYING
%WE'RE
OUTRAGED AND
DEEPLY
%OFFENDED THAT
YOU
WOULD
USE
THIS
%TIME
O
F
TRAGEDY
TO
MAK
E
THOSE
%STATEMENTS, SAYING THAT YOUR
%DEPARTMENT IS
NOT
AT
FAULT,
THEY
%SAID, FOR
THE
SAME
UNJUST
%ACTIONS THAT
HAVE
OCCURRED TO
%GEORGE
FLOYD'S
FAMILY.
%WHAT
IS
YOUR
COMMENT
O
N
THAT?
%>>
WELL,
FIRST
O
F
ALL,
THERE'S A
%LAWSUIT
PENDING,
SO I
CAN'T
%SPEAK
ABOUT
ANY OF
THE
SPECIFICS
%OF
THAT
CASE.
%BUT
THESE
WERE
TWO
COMPLETELY
%DIFFERENT CASES.
%THIS ONE
HAS
ALREADY
BEEN
%REVIEWED.
%THE
ONE
IN GREEN BAY
HAS
ALREADY
%BEEN
REVIEWED
BY
THE DISTRICT
%ATTORNEY'S OFFICE,
WHO
DECLINED
%TO
PRESS
ANY
CHARGES, OF COURSE.
%SO THEY
ARE
TWO
VERY
DIFFERENT
%CASES.
%I
UNDERSTAND
THAT
FAMILY
IS
VERY
%UPSET.
%BUT,
AGAIN,
THERE'S A
LAWSUIT
%PENDING.
%I REALLY
CAN'T
TALK
ABOUT
ANY
%SPECIFICS OF
THAT.
%>> ALL
RIGHT.
%WELL,
CHIEF,
W
E
REALLY
%APPRECIATE YOU
JOINING
US
AND
WE
%WISH YOU
AND
YOUR
CITY
WELL.
%THANK
YOU SO MUCH