>> A PBS WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
PRODUCTION.
THE FOLLOWING
PROGRAM IS
PART
OF
OUR "HERE AND NOW"
2020
ELECTION
COVERAGE.
>>
I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG.
TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"
SENIOR POLITICAL
REPORTER ZAC
SCHULTZ HITS
THE
CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
HE CATCHES UP
WITH
THE
PRIMARY
CANDIDATES IN
THE
STATE'S
7TH
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
WE HEAR
FROM A
LEADER
IN
THE
STATE
HMONG
COMMUNITY
ABOUT
NEW
FEARS
OVER
DEPORTATIONS.
AND A LOOK AHEAD
TO
RESEARCH AT
THE
UW
TO
COMBAT THE
CORONAVIRUS.
IT'S "HERE AND
NOW"
FOR
FEBRUARY 14.
>>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
PROVIDED BY
THE
FOCUS
FUND
FOR
JOURNALISM AND
FRIENDS
OF PBS
WISCONSIN.
>>
IN
OUR
FIRST
LOOK
TONIGHT,
NEXT
TUESDAY
IS
THE
SPRING
PRIMARY.
STATEWIDE, VOTERS
WILL
CHOOSE
WHICH
TWO SUPREME
COURT
CANDIDATES ADVANCE
TO
THE
APRIL ELECTION. ALSO ON THE
BALLOT
IN
NORTHERN
WISCONSIN'S 7TH
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IS
THE
PRIMARY
FOR A
SPECIAL ELECTION
TO
REPLACE
CONGRESSMAN SEAN
DUFFY,
WHO
RESIGNED LAST FALL.
"HERE AND NOW"
REPORTER ZAC SCHULTZ MET
WITH
ALL
FAWR
FOUR
CANDIDATES AND
HAS
THIS
REPORT. >>
CONGRESSIONAL
SEATS
DON'T
COME
OPEN
VERY
NAWRCH
WISCONSIN,
SO
IT'S
NO
WISCONSIN A SPECIAL
ELECTION IN
THE
7TH
BROUGHT
OUT
TWO
REPUBLICANS
AND
TWO
DEMOCRATS.
THE MAN
WITH
THE
MOST
NAME
RECOGNITION
IS
REPUBLICAN
STATE
SENATOR
TOM
TIFFANY. >>
I'VE
BEEN
PUTTING
50,000
MILES A YEAR ON
REPRESENTING
THE
12TH
DISTRICT, SO
IT'S
JUST
MORE
TERRITORY TO
COVER. >>
TIFFANY
IS
CAMPAIGNING ON
HIS
RECORD
IN
MADISON,
ADVANCING
FORMER
GOVERNOR SCOTT
WALKER'S
CONSERVATIVE AGENDA. >>
I'VE
HELPED
DRAIN
THE
SWAMP
IN MADISON.
I WILL
DO
THE
SAME
IN WASHINGTON D.C. I
HAVE
THE
TRACK
RECORD
TO PROVE
IT.
MADISON
DID
NOT
CHANGE
ME.
WASHINGTON D.C.
WILL
NOT
EITHER. >>
I
ALWAYS
LIKE
TO
SAY
I'VE
NEVER
LEFT
WISCONSIN
VOLUNTARILY.
IT'S ALWAYS
BEEN
ON
ORDERS.
>>
JASON
CHURCH
IS A
VETERAN,
ALSO
RUNNING
AS A
REPUBLICAN.
HE'S
W
ITHIN
BEEN
WORKING
IN
SENATOR RON
JOHNSON'S
OFFICE. >>
I
WAS
INJURED
AS A
PLATOON
LEADER,
LOST
BOTH
MY
LEGS.
I CAME
BACK
AND
RECOVERED AT
WALTER
REED.
IN THE
MIDDLE
OF
MY
RECOVER
I
MET
SENATOR RON
JOHNSON. >>
HE'S
RUNNING
AS AN
OUTSIDER
AND A
SUPPORTER
OF
TERM
LIMITS. >>
I
CAN
BRING
THE
FIGHT
FOR
US.
>>
WE
NEED A
NEW
GENERATION OF
LEADERSHIP. >> THERE
ARE
NO
POLICY
DIFFERENCES
BETWEEN
TOM
TIFFANY
AND
JASON
CHURCH.
TIFFANY
HAS
ENDORSEMENTS
FROM SCOTT
WALKER
AND
SAWN
SEAN
DUFFY.
BUT
IN AN
ERA
OF
ANTI-ESTABLISHMENT
CANDIDATES, HE HAS
TO
MAKE
SURE
THOSE
ENDORSEMENTS DON'T MAKE
HIM
THE
ESTABLISHMENT. >> I'M
PROUD OF
THE
ENDORSEMENTS
I'VE GOTTEN
BECAUSE
THEY'VE
BEEN
TRUE
REFORMERS. >>
CHURCH'S
SUPPORTERS
COME
FROM
MILITARY
BACKGROUND. >>
THE
PEOPLE
WHO
ENDORSED ME,
THEY
HE
DIDN'T
KNOW MIGHT BE
FROM WORKING IN
THE
LEGISLATURE IN TEN
YEARS
OR
TRYING TO
RUN
FOR OFFICE
FOR A
DECADE
AND A
HALF. >>
I GREW
UP
IN A
STRONG
UNION
HOUSEHOLD. >>
ON
THE
DEMOCRATIC
SIDE, TRICIA ZUNKER
IS
ENDORSED
BY
THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY
OF
WISCONSIN. >>
I'M AN
ENROLLED
MEMBER
OF
HO-CHUNK
HO-CHUNK NATION
AND
I
COME
FROM
GENERATIONS OF
DAIRY
FARMERS. >>
SHE'S A
JUSTICE ON
THE
HO-CHUNK SUPREME COURT AND ON
THE
WAUSAU
SCHOOL
BOARD. >>
WE
HAVE
OPPORTUNITY TO
GET
REPRESENTATION FOR
THE
PEOPLE
OF
WISCONSIN. >>
A
DEMOCRAT
HAS
NOT
WON
THE
7TH IN MORE
THAN A
DECADE.
IN A
DIFFERENT
POLITICAL ERA
AND
UNDER DIFFERENT MAPS.
BUT
ZUNKER
SAYS
SHE'S
REACHING
OUT
TO
POPULATIONS
THAT HAVE
BEEN
OVERLOOKED,
LIKE NATIVE AMERICAN
TRIBES. >>
I
MET
WIT
H
MEMBERS OF
THE
SOMALI
COMMUNITY,
MALE
HMONG
COMMUNITY LEADERS.
I
DID
SOME
HISPANIC
OUTREACH
FOR
THE
COMMUNITY
IN
ABBOTSFORD.
THERE
ARE SO
MANY
COMMUNITIES
THAT HAVE
BEEN
OVER
OVERLOOKED AND
HAVE
SAID
TO
ME THIS
IS
THE FIRST
TIME A
CANDIDATE
HAS COME
TO
US.
>>
LAWRENCE
DALE
IS
ALSO
RUNNING
AS A
DEMOCRAT AND
SAYS
HE'S
UNAFRAID
TO
CRITICIZE
HIS
OWN
PARTY
LEADERS. >>
I'M
NOT A ZEALOT FOR
ANY
PARTY.
I SUPPORT BERNIE SANDERS.
AND
I
SUPPORT
JUSTICE
FOR
WORKING PEOPLE
GENERALLY
AND
CERTAINLY JUSTICE
FOR
THE
SMALL
FARMERS
IN
OUR
DISTRICT. >>
DALE
SAYS
HIS
BIGGEST
CONCERNS
INCLUDE
THE
THREAT
FROM
MINING OPERATIONS
AND
INDUSTRIAL
FARMS. >> AS
YOUR
CONGRESSMAN WHAT I'M
GOING TO
DO
IS
PRESENT
LEGISLATION THAT
WILL
PUT A
MORATORIUM ON
CAFOs. >>
HE
SAYS
HE'S
NOT
IMPRESSED
WITH
ZUNKER. >>
SHE
TALKS A
LOT
ABOUT
HERSELF.
THAT TURNS
ME
OFF
RIGHT
AWAY.
SHE WENT ON
AND
ON.
IT
JUST
ABOUT
DROVE
M
E
NUTS.
SO I
WAITED
FOR
THE
SECOND
HALF
OF
HER
PRESENTATION AND THERE WAS
NOTHING
OF
SUBSTANCE.
>> FOR
HER
PART,
ZUNKER HAS
NOTHING TO
SAY
ABOUT
LAWRENCE
DALE. >>
I'M
NOT
REALLY
FOCUSED
ON
ANY
OPPONENT IN
THE
PRIMARY.
I'M FOCUS
ODD
FOCUSED
ON
THIS
CAMPAIGN,
LISTENING
TO
THE
VOTERS. >>
TURNOUT
IS
OFTEN
QUITE
LOW
IN
THE
SPRING
PRIMARY.
ADD IN
ONE OF
THE
LARGEST
DISTRICTS
EAST OF
THE MISS
MISSISSIPPI
AND
CAMPAIGNING
IN
WINTER AND YOU
HAVE A
LOT
OF
UNKNOWNS. >>
A
WINTER
CAMPAIGN
IS A
WHOLE
DIFFERENT ANIMAL.
IT'S A
LOUD
OF
GROUND T
O
COVER.
EIGHT
HOURS
ROUND
TRIP
FROM HUDSON TO
THE
OTHER
END
AND
BACK. >>
IT'S
GOING TO
BE
DIFFICULT
AS
IT ALWAYS
IS.
USUALLY
THE
CANDIDATE
THAT
OUTSPENDS THE
OTHER
BY A
SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
WINS. >>
THIS
IS A
26-COUNTY
DISTRICT,
ONE-THIRD OF
THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN, AND WE
HAVE
TO
TRY
ALL
DIFFERENT THINGS
THROUGHOUT THE
DISTRICT. >>
REPORTING
FROM
WAUSAU, I'M ZAC
SCHULTZ. >>
THE
SPECIAL PRIMARY
ELECTION
IN
THE
7TH
CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT IS
NEXT
TUESDAY,
FEBRUARY 18.
AS
WE
REPORTED LAST
WEEK,
FOR
ABSENTEE VOTERS
IN
THAT
DISTRICT, THERE ARE
TWO
BALLOTS
FOR
THAT
ELECTION, ONE
FOR
THE
FEDERAL
ELECTION
AND
ANOTHER
FOR
STATE SUPREME COURT AND
LOCAL
RACES.
THIS
WEEK,
HOWEVER,
THE
WISCONSIN
ELECTIONS COMMISSION
VOTED
UNANIMOUSLY
TO
SEND
ONLY
ONE
BALLOT
TO
MOST
ABSENTEE
VOTERS
FOR
THE
APRIL 7
PRESIDENTIAL
PRIMARY
AND SUPREME COURT
GENERAL.
COMMISSIONERS
WORRIED TWO
BALLOTS
COULD
CAUSE
CHAOS.
>>
FOR A
REGULAR
VOTER
IN
WISCONSIN THAT'S
NOT
OVERSEAS,
THAT'S NOT
SERVE
SERVING
IN
THE
MILITARY, YOU
WILL
ONE
BALLOT
WITH
THE
PRESIDENTIAL
PREFERENCE
ELECTION
AND
THE
STATE
AND
LOCAL CONTEST THAT YOU
WILL RETURN
TO
YOUR
CLERK
BY
ELECTION DAY. >>
NEXT
TUESDAY
VOTERS
STATEWIDE
WILL NARROW THE
FIELD
OF
CANDIDATES
RUNNING
FOR
THE
WISCONSIN SUPREME
COURT DOWN TO
TWO.
INCUMBENT
JUSTICE
DANIEL
KELLY
IS
CHALLENGED
BY
MARQUETTE
LAW
PROFESSOR ED
FALLONE
AND DANE
COUNTY
CIRCUIT
COURT
JUDGE JILL KAROFSKY.
ALL
THREE
HAVE
APPEARED
ON "HERE AND NOW."
HERE THEY ARE
SPEAKING
ABOUT
THEIR
JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY
IN THE
ORDER
OF
THEIR
APPEARANCES ON
OUR
PROGRAM. >>
OUR
ROLE
IN
THAT
IS
TO
SIMPLY
APPLY THE
LAW AS
IT
EXISTS.
WE'RE
THERE
TO
EXERCISE THE
JUDICIAL
POWER,
TO
APPLY
THE LAW
TO THE
CASE
IN
FRONT
OF
US.
PEOPLE
HAVE
NOT ASKED
US
TO
LEGISLATURE SLAIJ FROM
THE
BUNCH.
THEY'VE
GOT A
LEDGE ARCHITECTURE.
SO
WE
DON'T
MAKE
THE
LAW,
WE
DON'T
IGNORE THE
LAW,
WE
DON'T
PLAY FAVORITES WITH THE
LAW.
WE
SIMPLY
APPLY
THE
LAW
WITH
NEITHER
FEAR
NOR
FAVOR
FOR
ANY
PERSON OR
PARTY. >> I
HAVE
STOOD
FOR
THINGS
LIKE
FIGHTING
FOR
OUR
EQUAL
PROTECTION UNDER
THE
LAW,
FIGHTING
FOR
OUR
FREE
SPEECH,
PRINCIPLES GROUNDED
IN
OUR
CONSTITUTION.
THEY'RE
NOT
PARTISAN
PRINCIPLES.
THEY'RE THE
SAME
PRINCIPLES
I'LL
FIGHT FOR WHEN
I
TAKE
THE
OATH
OF OFFICE ON
THE
BENCH. >>
I'M
THE
ONLY
PERSON
IN
THIS
RACE
WHO HAS
BEEN A
TRIAL
COURT
JUDGE,
PRESIDING
OVER MORE THAN
1700
CASES LAST YEAR.
I
WILL
SEE
HOW
THE
LAW
IMPACTS
REAL PEOPLE.
I ALSO
HAVE
EXPERIENCE AS A
PROSECUTOR.
I
KNOW
HOW TO
BE
SMART
ON
CRIME.
I
KNOW
THE
IMPORTANCE OF
PROTECTING INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS OF
VICTIMS,
WITNESSES,
OF
DEFENDANTS, OF MEMBERS
OF
OUR
COMMUNITY. >>
FOR
INFORMATION
ON
VOTING,
HEAD
T
O
OUR
ELECTION
RESOURCES
WEBSITE, WISCONSIN VOTE
wisconsinvote.org. >>
A
POLICY
SHIFT
IN
WASHINGTON
LEAVES
THOUSANDS
OF
HMONG
RESIDENTS
WORRIED THEY
COULD
BE
SENT BACK
T
O
LAOS.
IN
TONIGHT'S INSIDE
LOOK,
WISCONSIN IS
HOME
TO
NEARLY
50,000
PEOPLE
WHO
CAME
AS
REFUGEES AFTER
FIGHTING
FOR
THE
U.S. IN
THE
VIETNAM
WAR
.
BECAUSE
OF A
LONG
RECORD
OF
HUMAN
RIGHTS
VIOLATIONS
AGAINST
HMONG PEOPLE
BY THE
COMMUNIST
COUNTRY.
VUE
IS
EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR AND
JOINS
US
FROM
MENASHA.
THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE. >>
THANK
YOU. >> WHAT
IS
THE
REACTION
AMONG
HMONG
PEOPLE HERE
IN
WISCONSIN
TO
THIS
D
EVELOPMENT THAT YOU
HAVE
HEARD?
>>
WELL,
IT'S A
MIXED
MESSAGE.
SOME
ARE
VERY
CONFUSED
WHY
IT'S
HAPPENING NOW.
SOME
SAY,
WELL, IT
STARTED A
LONG
TIME
AGO.
BUT I
GUESS
THE
BIGGEST
ISSUE,
EVEN
THOUGH
THE
IMMIGRATION LAW
PASSED
DURING
THE
ADMINISTRATION
IN
1996,
WELL,
THERE'S
NO
FORMAL
AGREEMENT
WITH
L
AOTIANS
TO
SEND
HMONG
OR
WHOEVER, CONVICTION
OF A
CRIERNLINGS BACK
CRIME, BACK TO
LAOS.
IT'S
ALMOST
24
YEARS
NOW
AND
THIS
ISSUE
RESURFACE
AGAIN. >>
HOW
MANY
PEOPLE
COULD
IT
AFFECT IN
WISCONSIN,
TO
YOUR
UNDERSTANDING? >>
TO
MY
ANYTHING,
WE
HAD
ABOUT
300 INDIVIDUALS IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
IN
THIS
DISTRICT
WE
COMBINE
HERE
WITH
CHICAGO AS
WELL,
TOO,
SO
PRETTY
CLOSE
TO
300
INDIVIDUALS. >>
NOW,
I
UNDERSTAND
AGAIN
THAT
THIS
WOULD
AFFECT
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
NOT
U.S.
CITIZENS,
BUT
LEGAL
RESIDENTS
NOW UNDER
DEPORTATION
ORDER.
HOW
DO
PEOPLE
GET
DEPORTATION
ORDERS
AGAINST
THEM
?
%
>>
THEY
SERVED
THEIR
TIME
% ALREADY AND HAVE
TIME
IN
THIS
% COUNTRY
NOW.
% >>
SO
THE
DEPORTATION
ORDER
% WOULD
COME, FOR
EXAMPLE,
BECAUSE% SOMEONE
WAS
CONVICTED
OF A
% CRIME.% >> THAT'S
CORRECT
.
% >>
WHAT
WOULD
HAPPEN
TO A
HMONG
% PERSON
DEPORTED BACK
TO
LAOS?
% >>
WELL,
THE
HMONG,
24
YEARS
% NOW,
THE
HMONG
BEING
IN
THIS
% COUNTRY 45 YEARS
NOW,
THE
HMONG
% IN
GENERAL
%
FLEE LAOS BECAUSE
OF
% BEING FRIENDS WITH
THE UNITED% STATES.
% GOING
BACK
IS
NOT AN
OPTION.
% LAOS
DOES
NOT
LEGALLY
RECOGNIZE
% HMONG
AS
CITIZENS
OF
LAY
LAOS.
% HMONGING
IS AN
ETHNIC
GROUP
IN
% LAOS.
% SO
NOT A
CITIZEN
OF
LAOS.
% THEY
WILL
NOT
TAKE A
NONLAOTIAN
% BACK, AS WELL
AS
THIS
INDIVIDUAL
% ESCAPE LAOS.
% WHY WOULD
THEY
WANT
THOSE
% INDIVIDUAL BACK?
% THEY ER
THE
ARE
THE
ONE
THAT
WANT TO
% GET
RID OF
THE
INDIVIDUAL IN THE% FIRST PLACE.%
>> WOULD IT
B
E
DANGEROUS IN
YOUR
% MIND
FOR A
HMONG PERSON TO
% RETURN TO
LAOS?
% >> IT
WOULD
BE
DANGEROUS,
THOSE
% INDIVIDUALS ON
THE
LIST.
% THEY
COMMIT
THIS
CRIME
WHEN THEY
% WERE
YOUNG.
% THEY
HAVE
NEVER
BEEN BACK
TO
% LAOS.
% THEY CANNOT
SPEAK
THE
LAOTIAN
% LANGUAGE.%THEY HAVE
NO
FAMILIES OVER
% THERE.
% SO IT
WOULD
BE
VERY
HARD
FOR
% THEM TO
GO BACK
TO A
SOCIETY
% THAT THEY ARE
NOT
WELCOME,
% BECAUSE THEIR
PARENTS
WERE
NOT
% WELCOME IN THE FIRST PLACE.%
SO
FOR
THEM TO
GO
BACK
IS
% UNIMAGINABLE.%>> WHAT HAVE
YOU
HEARD
FROM
% WISCONSIN'S
CONGRESSIONAL
% DELEGATION ABOUT
THIS?
% >> WHAT WE
HAVE
ARE
WISCONSIN
% CONGRESSIONAL
FROM
BOTH
THE
% SENATORS
AND
CONGRESSIONAL AS% WELL AS
THE
GOVERNOR TO HAVE
% WRITTEN LETTER
TO
THE
STATE
% DEPARTMENT ASKING
FOR
% EXPLANATION.
% AND
ONE,
THE
STATE
DEPARTMENT% STOP
NEGOTIATING
WITH
THIS
% PROCESS.
% SO
THAT'S WHAT
WE
HAD SO
FAR.
% JUST THIS
WEEK,
WE
HAD A
% TREMENDOUS REPORT AS FAR AS
THE
% ELECTED
OFFICIALS.% >> WHAT
IS
YOUR
FAMILY'S
STORY
% OF
FLEEING
LAOS?
% UNFORTUNATELY, WE
HAVE
BUT A
% MINUTE
LEFT.% >> WELL
WITH,
I'M
, WE
WERE
ABLE
TO
ESCAPE
% LAOS
EARLY
IN
1975.
% BUT
FROM
MY
KNOWLEDGE,
THROUGH% THIS
FLEEING
THE
COUNTRY,
HMONG,
% THOUSAND
AND
THOUSAND HAD
DIED
% ALONG THIS
TRAIL
AND
CROSSING
% THE
MEKONG
RIVER
IS
NOT AN
EASY
% TASK.
% SO THEY
WANT
THE
ONES
THAT
MADE IT
TO
THIS
% COUNTRY
ARE
THE
LUCKY ONES.
% IN THE
'80s,
'90s,
THEY
% COMMIT SOME
CRIME,
BUT
WHEN THEY
% WERE
YOUNGER
AND
SERVING
THEIR
% TIME, THEY ARE
BEING
DEPORTED
TO% A
COUNTRY
THEY
DON'T
EVEN
CALL
% HOME.
% SO
IT'S A
POLICY,
WHY
WOULD
WE
% WASTE
OUR
RESOURCE
SENDING
% INDIVIDUALS BACK
TO A
COUNTRY% THAT IS
NOT
WELCOME
FOR
THEM?
% WE COULD
USE
THAT
RESOURCE
FOR
% OTHER
REASONS.% >> WE
NEED
TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE,
% BUT OF
COURSE
WE WILL BE
% WATCHING
THIS.
% LONG
VUE,
THANK
YOU VERY
MUCH.% >> THANK YOU,
TOO.
% >> LATE THIS
WEEK,
GOVERNOR TONY
% EVERS
RELEASED A
LETTER HE
WROTE
% TO SECRETARY OF
STATE
MIKE
% POMPEO
SAYING, IN
PART,
THE
% POTENTIAL
DEPORTATION
OF
HMONG
% WISCONSINITES IS YET
ANOTHER
% EXAMPLE
OF
YOUR
ADMINISTRATION'S
% PROBLEMATIC DISPOSITION AND
% POLICIES TOWARD
IMMIGRANT
% POPULATIONS.
% I URGE
YOU
TO
RECONSIDER
AND
% REITERATE MY
OPPOSITION
TO
ANY
% AGREEMENT THAT RESULTS IN
THE
% DEPORTATION
OF
HMONG
PEOPLE
% LIVING IN
WISCONSIN.
% >>
MORE NOW
ON
IMMIGRATION
% POLICY.
% THE
U.S. SUPREME COURT
RECENTLY
% LIFTED AN
INJUNCTION AND
ALLOWED
% THE
TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION RULE
% REGARDING
IMMIGRANTS
TO
SOON
% TAKE
EFFECT.
% IT
IS A
RULE
DESIGNED
TO
% CONSTRAIN
LEGAL
IMMIGRATION BY
% REDUCING THE NUMBER
OF
PEOPLE% WHO ARE
ELIGIBLE FOR
GREEN
CARDS
% AND OTHER
VISAS.
% IT'S
CALLED
THE
PUBLIC
CHARGE
% RULE
AND
IT
DETERMINES HOW
MANY
% PUBLIC
BENEFITS
IMMIGRANT
CAN
% USE
BEFORE
THEIR
APPLICATION
FOR
% LEGAL
STATUS IS
DENIED
.
%
FOR
MORE ON
THE
IMPLICATIONS
OF
%THIS RULE
CHANGE, WE
TURN
TO%WILLIAM PARKE
SUTHERLAND, THE
%COORDINATOR AT
THE
MADISON-BASED%KIDS
FORWARD,
PART OF
THE
%WISCONSIN
COLLABORATION
ON
%IMMIGRANTS AND
PUBLIC
BENEFITS.
%THANKS
VERY
MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.%>>
THANK
YOU SO
MUCH
FOR
HAVING
%ME.
%>> WHO
DOES
THIS
RULE
AFFECT?
%>> I
THINK
THE
MOST
IMPORTANT
%THING
TO
REALIZE
IS
THAT
THE
%VAST
MAJORITY
OF
IMMIGRANTS
IT
%DOES
NOT
AFFECT.
%THE VAST
MAJORITY
OF
IMMIGRANTS
%ARE SAFE FROM
THIS
RULE.
%SO
PEOPLE
WITH
HUMANITARIAN
%VISAS,
PEOPLE WHO
ARE
REFUGEES,
%PEOPLE WHO
ARE
HERE
SORT
OF
AS A
%-- WHO
ARE
VICTIMS
OF
CRIMES
OR
%VICTIMS
OF
TRAFFICKING.
%SO
ALL
OF
THOSE
PEOPLE
ARE
SAFE
%AND ARE
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%WE LEAVE
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%WILLIAM PARKE
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%WE NEED
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%DR. FRIEDRICH, THANKS VERY MUCH.
%>> ALL RIGHT.
%THANK
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%>>
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%WEDNESDAY THE
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%TONIGHT.
%PRIMARY
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%FRIDAY
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%I'M
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%HAVE A
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%>>
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%ELECTION COVERAGE
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