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%RETURNS TO
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%EFFECT -- TAKEN INTO
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%WAY THAT
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%MAXIMUM PARTY
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%KEP
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% >> HAPPY TO BE WITH
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% >>> AN
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%EVERS' PLANS TO
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%LEGISLATIVE
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%MENTAL
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%WILL ASSIST
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%COUNSELING A
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%RELEASED A
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%IN
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%THE WORK
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%A
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%
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%WALLY
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%EXECUTIVE
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%THANKS SO
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% >> THANK YOU FOR INVITING
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% >> WHAT'S YOUR
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%THE
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%
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%WE'RE
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%YOU KNOW,
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%SUICIDE, WHICH
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%THOSE
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%TRICKLE
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% >> YEAH.
%WE C
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%DAD
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%THE PAST
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%TRICKLE DOWN TO
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%FARMING
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%STRESSFUL
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%MILK
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%BAD
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%OR
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%IT'S
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%THESE
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%NOT
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%I
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%BUT ALSO
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%A LOT
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%AROUND THE KINDS OF WORK
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%TOGETHER
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%TIMES -- THEY
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%TALKING
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%FARMERS.
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%THE
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%ARE -- OR
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%MENTAL HEALTH
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%MITYPE OF
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%ANY
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%THEY
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%TO HELP THE
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%WE'RE STARTING
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%FARMERSES BECAUSE OF
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%AND TRUSTED
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%FROM
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%IDENTIFYING THE
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%GOING THROUGH
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%THROUGH AND
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%OUT
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%WHOMEVER I
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%THERE.
%AND
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%TALKING TO THE
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%THE
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%TO THE
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% >> ALL RIGHT.
%
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%WALLY
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% >>> ON
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%FORWARD.
% >> ALL MEMBERS
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% >> THERE ARE
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%SESSION HAD
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%FOR A BILL
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I
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%WISCONSIN.
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%PASSED
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%WITH
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N
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%STALLED
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%BILL TO
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%A
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%KEY
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%THE LEGISLATION ARE
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%THE
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%PRACTICESSED THE
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%LEFT ON THE
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%IT'S
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%THE
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%SPENDING MORE
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%THE
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%FAR LESS
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%MICHIGAN IS UP
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%AGAIN,
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%FUNDING
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%PARTICULAR PIECE OF
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%NOTHING
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%MOVE
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%WON'T DO
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%THE
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%THE COMING
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%PREDICTLY
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%WHITE HOUSE
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%WEEKEND
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%
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% >>> WE END
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%
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%THE PBS
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%THAT'S ALL
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%HAVE A GREAT
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