% >>
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% WISCONSIN EXPECT US
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S,
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S
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% ELECTION THIS YEAR.
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OR
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E
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% POINT
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% ANOTHER TEN
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D
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S
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% GOVERNOR
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R
% TIME
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% >>
THANKS A
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% >>
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% RUNNING FOR
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KELLY,
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FOR
YOUR
% TIME TODAY.%>>
THANKS SO
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% ON.%>> YOU
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THE
% VOTERS
OF WISCONSIN
BEFORE.
% WHY
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T
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ELECT
YOU
TO
A
% FULL
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THE
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% >> I
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S
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M
Y
% PHILOSOPHY,
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% CONSTITUTION
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% MAINTAINED BY
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% WISCONSIN.
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AL
R
EALLY
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HY
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AT
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% CASE.
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S IN
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% BETWEEN THE PEOPLE
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% THEIR CONSTITUTION
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D
THE
% JUSTICES OF
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I
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O
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% THE
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HAT
I
% EXERCISE
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T
DOESN'T
% BELONG TO ME.
% IT BELONGS TO
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P
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IT
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US
% THROUGH
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IR
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STRUCTURED
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% CONSTITUTION
IN A
W
AY
T
O
% ACCOMPLISH
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VER
Y
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N
% THEIR
COMMUNITIES.
% SO OUR
ROL
E IN
TH
AT
IS
T
O
SIMPLY
% APPLY
THE
LAW AS
I
T
EXISTS.
% WE'RE
THERE
TO
EXERCISE
THE
% JUDICIAL
POWER
TO
APPLY
THE LAW
% TO THE
C
ASE
I
N F
RONT
O
F
US.
% PEOPLE
H
AVE
N
O
T ASKED
US
T
O
% LEGISLATE
FROM
THE BENCH.
% SO
WE
DON
'T
MAK
E
THE
LAW,
WE
% DON'T IGNORE
THE
LAW,
WE
DON'T
% PLAY FAVORITES
WITH
THE
LAW.
% WE
SIMPLY
APPLY
THE
LAW
WIT
H
% SIMPLY
FEAR
NOR
FAVOR
F
OR
ANY
% PERSON OR
PARTY.
% WHEN WE
D
O
T
HAT,
WE'RE
FAITHFUL
% TO THE
TERMS OF
THE
% CONSTITUTION.
% WHEN
WE'
RE
FAITHFUL
T
O
THE
% CONSTITUTION, WE'RE
FAITHFUL T
O
% THE PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN.
% THAT
PRESERVES THEIR
FREEDOMS
% AND
LIBERTIES
AND
IT
PRESERVES
% SECURITY IN THE R
ULE
OF
LAW
IN
% THEIR COMMUNITIES.%>> YOU
RECENTLY
DECIDED
TO
% RECUSE
YOURSELF
FROM A
CASE
THAT
% COULD COME
BEFORE
THE SUPREME
% COURT
REGARDING A CONSERVATIVE
% GROUP'S
EFFORT T
O
FORCE
THE
% REMOVAL OF
230,000
NAMES
FRO
M
% THE
VOTER
REGISTRATION
ROLES.
% WHY
DI
D
Y
OU
DECIDE
T
O
RECUSE?
% >>
WELL
,
MOSTLY
BECAUSE
OF WHAT
% YOU JUST
SA
ID
.
% THE CASE
INVOLVE
S OVER
200,000
% PEOPLE
WHO WILL
BE
PARTICIPATING% OR NOT
PARTICIPATING IN
THE
% ELECTION WHERE
MY
N
AME WILL BE% ON
THE
BALLOT.
% I THINK
IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE
% PEOPLE TO
UNDERSTAND
THAT
WE
DO
% NOTHING
BUT
IMPARTIALLY APPLY
% THE
LAW WITHOUT
RESPECT T
O
AN
Y
% OUTSIDE
INFLUENCES OR
ANYTHING
% THAT
WOU
LD
AFFECT M
E
PERSONALLY.
% AND I WANT TO
MA
KE
SURE
THAT
NOT
TR
UE
IN
FACT,
BUT
% THAT
THE
APPEARANCES
OF
THAT
A
RE
%
ALIGNED WITH WHAT
I
S
ACTUALLY
% FACTUAL.
% AND SO
I
D
ECIDED
TO
RECUSE
% MYSELF FROM THAT
CASE.% >>
JUSTICES
HAVE
BROAD
AUTHORITY
% ON
WHEN
TO
RECUSE.
% YOUR
OPPONENTS
HAVE
SAID THEY
% WOULD
LIKE TO SEE
TIGHTER
RULES.
% DO YOU THINK THE
SYSTEM
WORKS
AS% IT
IS?
% >>
WELL,
I
T
HINK
IT HAS
BEEN
% WORKING
FOR A
VERY
LONG
TIME
TH
E
% WAY THAT IT I
S.
% AND
WHILE
I
'M
ALWAYS
OPEN TO
% LOOKING
A
T
POTENT
POTENTIAL
AMENDMENTS,
%
I
THINK WE
N
EED
TO
BE
SURE
WHEN
% WE DO
THAT,
WHEN
WE
LOOK AT
% CIRCUMSTANCES THAT MIGHT CALL
% FOR A
CHANGE,
THAT
W
E DO
IT
I
N A
% WAY THAT
D
OES
N
OT
INTRODUCE
% OPPORTUNITIES
FOR
POLITICAL
% GAMESMANSHIP
AM
ONGST
PARTIES
% AMONGST THE
MEMBERS OF THE
% COURT.
% SO
I'M
ALWAYS
OPEN TO
LOOKING
A
T
% NEW
PROPOSALS,
BUT WE
NEED
TO
% MAKE
SUR
E
TH
AT
I
T
ACCOMPLISHES
% THE
OBJECTIVE
O
F
OUR RULES
O
F
% RECUSAL, WHICH IS
MAKING
SURE
% THAT
WE
D
O
THE
JOB
OF A
JUSTICE,% THAT
IS,
IMPARTIALLY
APPLYING
% THE LAW TO
THE
CAS
E
IN
FRONT
OF
% US.%>>
TECHNICALLY SUPREME COURT
% ELECTIONS ARE
NONPARTISAN, BUT
% LATELY THAT'S BEEN
IN
N
AM
E
ONLY.
% REPUBLICANS AND
DEMOCRATS ARE
% INVOLVED IN
CAMPAIGNS,
% ORGANIZING VOTERS.
% SO
WHY IS
I
T WRONG
FOR
SOME
% VOTERS TO
ASSUME
YOU
REPRESENT
% REPUBLICANS AND
Y
OUR
OPPONENTS
%
ARE
REPRESENTING THE
D
EMOCRATS
% IN THIS
CASE?
% >> I
THINK
IT'S A
CATEGORY
ERROR
% TO
SUGGEST
TH
AT
WE
REPRESENT ONE
% PARTY
OR
ANOT
HER
OR
THEI
R
% ISSUES.
% AS
I
MENTIONED, ONE OF
THE
% PRIMARY
AND
CENTRAL
ASPECTS
O
F
% MY
JUDICIAL
PHILOSOPHY I
S
% SETTING
ASIDE
PERSONAL
POLITICS
% AND PERSONAL
BELIEFS
AND
% POSITIONS AND
SIMPLY
APPLYING
% THE LAW
TH
E
WAY
IT
EXISTS.
% THIS IS
T
HE
ONLY
W
AY
TH
AT
ALLOWS
% US
T
O
PRESERVE
FREEDOM
A
ND
% LIBERTIES AND LAW
A
ND
ORDER
I
N
% OUR
COMMUNITIES.
% SO W
HE
N
I
WORK
ON
CASES,
W
HEN
I
% DECIDE
CASES,
WHEN
I
WRITE
% OPINIONS,
THE
WAY
I APPROACH
IT% TO MAKE SURE THAT
THOSE
THINGS
% ARE PUT
TO
THE
SIDE
I
S
TO
APPLY
% RIGOROUS
LOGIC.
% WE HE
S
TART
WIT
H
THE
START
WITH
THE
PREMISES
AND
% USE
RIGOROUS LOGIC
T
O
WORK
OU
R
% WAY DOWN TO THE
CONCLUSION.
% AND IF
Y
OU
D
O
TH
AT
WELL
A
ND
% DILIGENTLY, THAT
WIL
L
SQUEEZE
% OUT ANY
O
F
YOU
R
PERSONAL
% POLITICS OR ANY
OF
YOU
R
P
ERSONAL
% POSITIONS OR
BELIEFS,
BECAUSE
% LOGIC DOESN'T
C
ARE
ABOUT
YOUR
% POLITICS,
RIGHT?
% IT
SIMP
LY I
S.
% AND
SO
IF
WE
DO
THAT
WELL,
THEN
% WE'LL
AL
WAYS
ARRIVE
A
T
A
% CONCLUSION THAT IS REQUIRED BY
% THE LAW
AND
NOT
BY
OUR
PERSONAL
%
PREFERENCES.%>>
WE'VE
GO
T
ABOUT A MINUTE
% LEFT.
% LAST YEAR
DURING
THE
LAM
E
DUCK
% SESSION
REPUBLICANS AND
% LEGISLATION CONSIDERED
MOVING
% THE DATE OF
THE SUPREME
COURT% ELECTION TO GET
AWAY
FRO
M
THE
% PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY
AN
D
% POTENTIAL HIGHER
TURNOUT AMONG
% DEMOCRATS.
% HOW WILL
INCREASED VOTER
TURNOUT
% IMPACT YOUR
ELECTION?
% >> I DON'T THINK IT'S
GOING
TO
% IMPACT
IT MUCH AT A
LL.
% THE REASON
F
OR
THAT
I
S
THIS.
% I THINK
PEOPLE
OF
WISCONSIN,
% REGARDLESS
OF
THEIR
POLITICAL
% PARTY
TO
WHICH
SUBSCRIBE, THEY
% WANT
THE
SA
ME
THING OUT
O
F
% JUSTICE OF
THE SUPREME
COURT.
% THEY
WAN
T A
JUSTICE
WHO
WIL
L
% APPLY THE
LAW,
WH
O
WON'T
IN
% THEIR PERSONAL
BELIEFS
O
R
% POLITICS INTO
THE
% DECISION-MAKING.
% SO WHETHER
THERE'S
MOR
E
% DEMOCRATS THAT
T
URN
OUT
THAN
% REPUBLICANS, I DON'T THINK%TH
AT'S GOING
T
O
MATTER
MUCH
% BECAUSE I
THINK
THEY
AL
L
WANT
% BASICALLY
THE
SAME
THING, A
% JUSTICE WHO
WIL
L
JUST
APPLY THE
% LAW.
% AN
D
THAT'S
WHAT
I'V
E
BEEN
DOING
% SINCE 2016.%>>
W
ERE
YO
U
HOPING
THA
T
THE
DAT
E
% WOULD GET
CHANGED OR DID YOU
% HAVE AN OPINION
ON
WHETHER
THE
% DATE
SHOULD
REMAIN?% >>
WELL,
I
T
RY
NOT
TO PEER
INTO
% THE
FUTURE
A
ND
SEE
WHAT
MIGHT
% OCCUR OR
NOT
OCCUR
BASED
ON
% CHANGES
LIK
E
THAT
BECAUSE
YOU
% NEVER KNOW WHAT
THE
CONSEQUENCES% MIGHT BE.
% SO I
LO
OK
AT
THE
PEOPLE
OF
% WISCONSIN
AND I
HAVE
FAITH
THAT
%
WHEN
IT
COMES
TIME
FOR
T
HE
% ELECTION, THEY'RE GOING
TO
D
O
% THE RIGHT
THING.
% THEY'RE GOING TO
LOOK
FO
R
% SOMEONE
WHO
'S
G
OING TO B
E
% FAITHFUL TO
THE
CONSTITUTION.
% AND
I
THI
NK
THE
Y'RE
G
OING
T
O
D
O
% THAT REGARDLESS
O
F WHETHER
% THEY'RE
DEMOCRATS OR
REPUBLICANS
% OR
INDEPENDENTS OR
WHATEVER
% OTHER
POLITICAL
PERSUASION
THEY% MIGHT
BE.
% SO
I
INV
ITE
THEM
ALL
TO
COME
% OUT, AS
MUC
H
AS
POSSIBLE,
% REGARDLESS
O
F
THE
PARTIES
% THEY'RE
AFFILIATED
WITH.
% COME OUT IN
THE SUPREME COURT
% ELECTION.
% LET US
KNOW WHAT YOU
THINK.
% AND I'LL
REST
M
Y
FAITH
W
ITH
% THEM.%>>
JUSTICE
KELLY,
THANKS FOR
% YOUR
TIME
TODAY.
% >> THANK YOU.
% >>
EVER
Y
YEAR
I
N
WISCONSIN
% DOZENS OF
PEOPL
E GET
L
OST
IN
THE
% WOODS
O
R
NED
N
EE
D
RESCUING ON THE
% WATER.
% THE
PEOPLE CALLED
OUT
TO
L
OOK
% FOR
THEM
T
RAIN
LIKE
% PROFESSIONALS, BUT GET
T
RAINED
% LIKE
VOLUNTEERS, LIKE THE
ONES
I
% MET ON THE JOB
IN
SAWYER
COUNTY.
% >>
ON A
SUNDAY
AFTERNOON TWO
% YEARS
AGO,
RYAN
NADELHOFFER
G
O
T
% ON
HI
S
ATV
IN
THE VILLAGE
O
F
% WINTER
I
N
S
AWYER C
OUNTY
A
ND
% PREPARED TO
RIDE
THE
TRAILS
TO
% HIS
HOME
IN
HAYWARD
30
MILES
% AWAY.%>>
HE
HAD
HIS
C
ELL
PHONE
AND
% GPS, SO
H
E
S
AID I
H
AVE
THE
% TRAILS READY TO
GO,
I
'M
FIN
E.
% >>
R
YAN'S
SISTER
AMBER
SAID
THE
% GPS TOOK
H
IM ON
THE
WRONG
TRAIL.% >>
I
W
AS
ON
M
Y
PHONE
AND
IT
TOOK
% ME TO
TH
E
SNOWMOBILE
TRAIL.% >>
HI
S
G
S
WAS
TAKING
HIM
PS
WAS
TAKING
HIM ON
T
HE
% SNOWMOBILE TRAILS.
% HE LOST SERVICE.
% HE
PICKED A ROUTE
A
ND
DROVE A
N
D
% IT
TURNED
INTO
NO
TRAIL
AND H
E
% WAS
HUN
G
O
N A
FREE.% >>
RYAN
L
OST
WITH A
DEAD
% PHONE
AND A
STUCK
ATV
.
% >>
I
H
AD
M
Y
HEADLIGHTS ON
FOR A
% WHILE
AND
THEN
W
HEN
THE
BATTERY
% DIED,
THEN IT
WAS
PITCH
BLACK.
% >>
WHEN
HE
DIDN'T
ARRIVE HOME ON
% TIME,
R
YAN'S
FAMILY
CALLED
THE
% SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
AN
D
THE
Y
% ACTIVATED
THE
SAWYER
COUNTY
% SEARCH
AND
RESCU
E
TEAM.
% >>
W
E
KNEW HE WAS
O
N
H
IS
ATV,
S
O
% WE
REQUESTED
WINTER
FIRE
% DEPARTMENT TO COME
IN
A
ND
ASSIST
% WITH
THEIR
AT
Vs.
% >>
IS
H
E
THET
V
s% >>
THEY S
ET
UP A COMMAND
POST.
% >>
WAS
A
AMAZING TO SEE THEY
% HAVE THE
CAPACITY
TO
DO
T
HAT
I
N
% SUCH SHORT
T
IME.
% THE FACT THAT WE WERE
SITTING
AT
% HOME
WITH
THEIR
FAMILIES,
THEY
% GOT THE
CALL
AND
THEY
DIDN'T
% HESITATE.%>> JUS
T
AFTER
MIDNIGHT
SEARCHERS
% FOUND
RYAN,
WET
A
ND
COLD.
% >>
T
HE
W
A
Y
T
HE
TEMPERATURE WAS
% THAT
NIGHT, IF
T
HE
S
EARCH
% MEMBERS
WOULDN'T
HAV
E
LOCATED
% HIM, YOU
KNOW,
IT MAY
H
AVE
H
AD
% DIFFERENT
OUTCOME.% >> B
Y
T
HE
TIM
E
SEARCH
ERS
ERS IT
ERS
W
ERE
% CALLED
BACK, IT
WAS
MONDAY
AND
% MOST
OF
THEM HA
D TO
G
O
TO
W
ORK
% BECAUSE
IN
WISCONSIN
SEARCH
AND
% RESCUE TEAMS ARE
M
ADE
U
P
O
F
% VOLUNTEERS.%>>
W
E
MAY
H
AVE 35
OF
OUR
MEMBERS
% OR
WE MAY
HAV
E
FOUR.% >> YOU
WANT
T
O
SIGN I
N
O
VER
% HERE?
% >>
P
AT
S
ANCHEZ
I
S
T
HE
% COORDINATOR
O
F
SAWYER
COUNTY'S
% TEAM,
BU
T
THEIR
SEARCH
AREA
% DOESN'T STOP
A
T THE
C
OUNTY
LIN
E.
% >> THIS IS
KIND OF
THE
INFO
% SHEET ON THE PERSON
THAT
WE'RE
% LOOKING
F
OR.
% >>
THIS
SUMMER,
THEY
SPENT
% MULTIPLE DAYS IN
ASHLAND
COUNTY
% LOOKING FOR THE
B
ODY
OF A MAN
% WHO LIKELY
DROWNED
IN
THE
LAKE
.% >>
THIS
LAKE HAS
BEEN
SEARCHED
% WITH TWO
CADAVER
DOGS.
% DOGS H
AVE
SAI
D
SOMETHING'S HERE.
% WE DON'T
KNO
W
IF
IT'S
COMING
% FROM THE
LAK
E
OR OFF T
HE
SHORE
% INTO THE
L
AKE.% >>
VOLUNTEERS
SHOWED UP T
O
% SEARCH THE
SHORELINE
AND
WOODS.% >>
HEAT
INDEX
IS
GOING TO
G
ET
% REALLY
HIGH.
% MAKE SURE YOU
GUY
S
STA
Y
% HYDRATED.
% THE
REASO
N
WE'RE HERE IN
ASHLAND
% COUNTY IS
WE HAVE
B
EEN D
OING
% SEARCH
AND
RESCUE F
OR
MANY Y
EARS
% AND
O
UR
REPUTATION HAS
GROWN
% THAT WE ARE A
TEAM
THAT
WIL
L
% COME
IN.
% WE'RE WITH
THE
LOCA
L
AGENCIES.% >>
THE
TEAM HAS
BEEN
CALLED
OUT
% TO
85
SEARCHES OVER THE
LAS
T
% FOUR
YEARS,
NEARLY
HALF
O
F
THE
M
% OUTSIDE
THEIR HOME
TERRITORY.% >>
THE
SUCCESS
RATE HAS BEE
N
% APPRECIATED
B
Y
THE
SURROUNDING
% COUNTIES.%>>
SAWYER
COUNTY
SHERIFF
DOU
G
% MROTEK
SAY
S A
MISSING
PERSON
% CASE I
S
UNDER
JURISDICTION
OF
% LOCAL
LAW
ENFORCEMENT
A
ND
ONLY
% THEY
CAN
ACTIVATE A SEARCH.
% IF A
NEIGHBORING COUNTY ASKS
F
OR
% HELP, THEY HAVE TO
AS
K
HIM
T
O
% ACTIVATE HI
S
VOLUNTEERS.% >> WE
H
AVE
RECEIVED
QUITE A
FEW
% REQUESTS FROM
T
HE
SURROUNDING
% COUNTIES
FOR
OUR
SEARCH
A
ND
% RESCUE
TEA
M.
% >>
BU
T
A
LL
THOSE
SEARCHES
COME
% AT A COST TO
THE
VOLUNTEERS.
% THIS
SEARCH
T
OOK
PLACE
O
N A
% THURSDAY.%>> THIS
IS A
VACATION DAY FOR
ME
% AND
I
CAN
T
ELL
YOU
THA
T
I
USE
UP
% JUST
ABOUT
ALL
MY
VACATION ON
% SEARCHES.%>> SO YOU
TAKE CARE
O
F
YOURSELF,
% STAY
HYDRATED.% >>
SAWYER
C
OUNTY
HA
S
RECEIVED
% DONATIONS,
BUT
INDIVIDUAL% MEMBERS
P
AY
FOR
EVERYTHING ELSE
% ON
THEIR
O
W
N.% >>
WE'RE
RESPONSIBLE
FOR
O
UR
OWN
% CANINES,
FOR
OUR
OWN
TRAINING.% WE
HAVE
T
O
PAY
FOR
THAT OUT OF
% POCKET.
% WHEN WE
GET
OUR
OWN
VEHICLES AND
% DRIVE, WE ARE
HE
PAYING
PY
ING
WE
AR
EPYING
WE
ARE
PAYING
OUR
OWN
% GOODS
EXPENSES.
% >> THIS
IS
THE
W
AY
SEARCH
AND
% RESCUE WORKS
STATEWIDE.
% WE
CALLE
D EVERY
SHERIFF'S
% DEPARTMENT IN THE
STATE
TO
ASK
% HOW
THE
Y
CONDUCT
SEARCH
A
ND
% RESCUE.
% ONLY SIX
COUNTIES
SAID THEY
HAVE
% ANY KIND
O
F
IN-HOUSE
S
EARCH
AN
D
% RESCUE TEAM.
% WHEN
WE
ASKED
WHO THEY
WOULD
% CALL
IF
THEY
N
EEDED T
O
CONDUCT A
% SEARCH, THEY
POINTE
D
TO
NEARBY% VOLUNTEER GROUPS.
% BUT NO ONE
ACTUALLY
KNOWS
THE
% ENTIRE
LIST
OF
SEARCH
AND
RESCUE
% TEAMS.%>> WE
DON'T
HAVE A
GOOD
S
OLID
% LIST
AT
THIS
POINT
O
F
ALL
THE
% TEAMS IN THE
STATE
BECAUSE
THOSE
% ARE
USUALLY
LOCAL
ASSETS.
% >>
KEVIN
WERNET
IS AN
EXERCISE
% AND
TRAINING
OFFICER
WITH
% WISCONSIN
EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT.
% HE C
A
N
GE
T
TH
E
RIGHT
AIRCRAFT
I
N
% THE
SK
Y.% >>
W
E
SUPPORT
APPROXIMATELY
30
% TO 40
MISSIONS A YEAR FOR
SEARCH
% AND RESCUE
REQUESTS.% >>
WERNET
SAY
S
EACH
PART OF
THE
% STATE
PRESENTS
I
TS
O
WN
% GEOGRAPHICAL
CHALLENGES, WHETHER
% IT
B
E
WOODS
O
R
WATER.
% >> IN
TH
E
SOUTHWEST
THERE'S A
% LOT
OF
RIVER
RESCUES.
% PAT
HAS A
LOT
OF
FORESTRY
TYPE
% STUFF.%>>
BUT
WISCONSIN
EMERGENCY
% MANAGEMENT
REALIZED
THEY
DON'T
% KNOW WHERE
THE
GAPS
I
N
COVERAGE
% MAY
B
E
BECAUSE
VOLUNTEER
GROUPS
% DON'T REPORT
TO
ANY
SINGLE
% AUTHORITY.%>>
A
BOUT A YEAR
AGO, WE
% IDENTIFIED A GAP AND WE
WERE
% WORKING
WITH
DIFFERENT
TEAMS
AND
% DIFFERENT
FOLKS AROUND THE
% STATE.
% SO
WE'V
E
BEEN
WORKING
T
O
EXPAND
% THAT
LIST.
% >>
PAT
SANCHEZ
UNDERSTANDS
% THERE'S NO
MONEY
FOR
PAYING
% SEARCH
AND
RESCUE
VOLUNTEERS,
% BUT THEY WOULD LIKE
T
HE
S
AME
% LEGAL
PROTECTIONS
OFFERED
T
O
% VOLUNTEER
FIREFIGHTERS.% >> IT
WOULD
B
E
NICE
IF WE
WERE
% TREATED
AS
EQUAL
TO
FIRE
% DEPARTMENTS, EMS AND
LAW,
% BECAUSE WE
ARE
FIRST
RESPONDERS.
% >>
IN
THE
MEANTIME,
SHE'LL
KEEP
% SHOWING UP W
HEN
THE
CALL
COMES
% IN.%>> SO THIS
IS
MY
HOBBY,
BUT
IT'S
% MY
PASSION,
TOO.
% BECAUSE I
WOULDN'T
B
E
DOING
IT
% IF I DIDN'T
GE
T
SOMETHING BACK
% AND WHAT
I
G
ET
BACK
I
S
FROM
ALL
% MY
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