% >>
THE
FOLLOWING
PROGRAM
IS A
% PBS
WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
% PRODUCTION.
% >>
TODAY
I'M
ANNOUNCING THE
% HOUSE
OF
REPRESENT
!
REPRESENTATIVES
I
S
% MOVING
FORWARD
WITH AN
OFFICIAL
% IMPEACHMENT
INQUIRY.% >>
HOUSE
SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI
% CALLS
FOR
ARTICLES OF
% IMPEACHMENT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW," A
UW
% EXPERT
ON
IMPEACHMENT
PROVIDES
% CONTEXT ON
WHAT'S
HAPPENING IN
% WASHINGTON.
% DUMPING
PEOPLE
WHO
CHANGED
% ADDRESS OFF
THE
VOTER
ROLLS
IN
% WISCONSIN.
% HOW LONG
SHOULD
REGISTRATIONS
% REMAIN
ACTIVE?
% AND AN
INSIDE
LOOK
AT A
NEW
SAFE
% HOUSE
FOR
SURVIVORS
OF SEX
% TRAFFICKING, THE
LARGEST
IN
THE
% STATE.
% IT'S "HERE AND NOW"
FOR
% DECEMBER 6.%>> UND IFING
FOR "HERE AND
!
.>>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
% >>
PRESIDENT
DLT
!
DONALD
TRUMP
IS
% VERY
LIKELY
ON
HIS
WAY
TO
BEING
% ITCH PEECHED BY
!
!BEINGISM
PEECHED
!
BEING
IMPEACHED
BY THE
HOUSE
OF
% REPRESENTATIVES.
% WE TURN
TO
UW-MADISON
POLITICAL
% SCIENTIST DAVID CANON.
% WHAT IS
YOUR
REACTION
THAT
HOUSE
% DEMOCRATS WILL
PROCEED
IN
% DRAWING
UP ARTICLES
OF
% IMPEACHMENT?%>>
WELL,
I
THINK THERE
WAS
NO
% DOUBT SINCE
THE
DAY
SHE
% ANNOUNCED
THE
INQUIRY THIS
IS
% THE
WAY WE
WERE
HEADED.
% THE SURPRISE
IS
IN
TERMS OF THE
% TIMING
BECAUSE
ESPECIALLY AFTER
% THE
CONSTITUTIONAL EXPERT% TESTIFIED
ON
WEDNESDAY THAT
YOU
% NEED TO
SLOW
DOWN,
GET
TESTIMONY
% FROM SOME OF
THE
OTHER
KEY
% WITNESSES, MAKE
THIS
AS
STRONG A% CASE AS
YOU
CAN, THERE
WAS
SOME
% DISCUSSION
WITHIN
THE
DEMOCRATIC
% PARTY
ABOUT
TRYING
TO
GET
% TESTIMONY
FROM
THOSE
WITNESSES
% AND
THAT
WOULD
MEAN
SLOWING
% THINGS
DOWN A
LOT
BECAUSE
YOU'D
% HAVE TO
GET
THE
COURT
DECISION
% THAT WOULD
BASICALLY
ORDER
THOSE
% PEOPLE TO
FOLLOW
THE
SUBPOENAS.
% AND SO
YOU'RE
LOOKING
AT
% PROBABLY
LATE
SPRING
AT
THE
% EARLIEST IF
THEY
DID
THAT.
% SO I
THINK
THE
SPEAKER
PROBABLY
% MADE
THE
CALCULATION
THAT
% THERE'S A DANGER THAT
THE
CLOCK
% WOULD
RUN
OUT,
YOU'D
GET
INT
O
% THE SUMMER.
% THE
DECISION WAS
WE
WANT
TO
DO
% THIS RIGHT
AWAY
SO
WE'RE
% PROBABLY
LOOKING
AT A
VOTE
% BEFORE
CHRISTMAS.% >>
WHICH ARTICLES
OF
IMPEACHMENT
% OR
CHARGES
ARE
MOST
LIKELY?
%
>> THIS IS
THE
ONE
PLACE
WHERE
% THERE
STILL
IS
INTERNAL
DEBATE.
% SPEAKER MET WITH
THE
CAUCUS
ON
% MONDAY.
% THERE'S
STILL A
DIFFERENCE
OF
% OPINION
OF
DO
WE
JUST
STICK
WITH
% UKRAINE
AND
ONE
ARTICLE WOULD
BE
% ABUSE
OF
POWER,
PROBABLY
% NARROWLY
DEFINED
AS
BRIBERY,
THE
% SECOND WOULD
BE
OBSTRUCTION
OF
% JUSTICE, THE
REFUSAL OF
THE
% WHITE HOUSE TO
GO
ALONG
WITH
% COOPERATING
AS
MANY OF
THE
% WITNESSES.
% SO
THOSE WOULD BE
THE
TWO
% ARTICLES.
% AND
THEN
IF
THEY
DECIDE
TO
MAKE
% IT
BROADER, THEY COULD
BRING
IN
% OBSTRUCTION FROM THE
MUELLER
% REPORT AS WELL.
% THAT'S WHERE SOME
PEOPLE ARE
% ARGUING TO
MAKE
IT
BROADER.
% >>
IN
TERMS
OF
THAT
EX
TERRITORY%
WHO
!
!TERRITORY--
EXPERT
WHO
TESTIFIED THIS WAS
% BEING
RUSHED,
DO
YOU
AGREE
WITH
% THAT?
% >>
NOT
REALLY.
% THAT
WAS
JONATHAN
TURLY,
THE
% EXPERT CALLED
BY
THE
% REPUBLICANS.
% HE SAID
HE
THEY
NEED
TO
SLOW
% DOWN TO
GET
THE
STRONGEST
% POSSIBLE
CASE.
% IN AN IDEAL
WORLD,
I AGREE
WITH
% THAT.%IT
WOULD
BE
WONDERFUL TO
HAVE
% THE
TESTIMONY
FROM
THOSE
KEY
% WITNESSES.
% BUT
WHEN
YOU
COMPARE
IT
TO
OTHER
% IMPEACHMENTS WE'VE
HAD,
ANDREW
% JOHNSON'S, THE
FIRST
AFTER THE% CIVIL
WAR,
THAT
WHOLE
PROCESS
% WAS ONE
WEEK LONG
FROM
THE% BEGINNING TO
THE
END, ONE
WEEK% TOTAL.
% SO
THAT
ONE
WAS
LIKE A
SPEED
% RECORD COMPARED
TO
WHAT WE HAVE
% RIGHT
NOW,
WHICH
IS
GOING TO
BE
% ABOUT
THREE
MONTHS
FROM
THE
% BEGINNING
OF
SPEAKER
PELOSI
% ANNOUNCING
THE
INQUIRY
TO
THE% ANTICIPATED VOTE ON
PROBABLY
% DECEMBER 20.
% SO
IT'S
AT LEAST
SLOWER
THAN
% THAT
ONE.
% WATERGATE
AND
CLINTON
% IMPEACHMENT
LASTED
LONGER.% >> IT
WAS
SAID THIS
WAS AN
% INCREDIBLY CLEAR CASE.
% DO YOU
AGREE
WITH
THAT?
% >>
YEAH.
% ESPECIALLY IF
YOU
KEEP
THE
FOCUS
% ON WHAT
HAPPENED
WITH
UKRAINE, I
% THINK THAT IT
IS A
CLEAR
CASE
OF
% ABUSE
OF
POWER.
% AND IF
YOU
LOOK
AT
THE
% REPUBLICANS'
MINORITY
REPORT% THAT WAS ISSUED
ON MONDAY
FROM
% THE
HOUSE
INTELLIGENCE
% COMMITTEE, THEY TRIED
TO
ARGUE
% THAT --
THEY
DEFINITELY TRIED
TO
% ARGUE THIS WAS
NOT A
CLEAR
CASE
% AND
THAT
IT
DOESN'T
MERE
RYT
% IMPEACHMENT.
% -- MERIT
% IMPEACHMENT, THAT
PRESIDENT% PRESIDENT
TRUMP
WAS
J
USTIFIED
IN
% ASKING
FOR
THE
INVESTIGATION OF
% BIDEN
AND
UKRAINE'S
INVOLVEMENT
% IN
THE
2016
ELECTION BECAUSE
% THESE
WERE
LEGITIMATE
CONCERNS
% ABOUT
CORRUPTION.
% THAT
WAS
THE
GENERAL
FRAMEWORK.
% THOSE
ARGUMENTS
DON'T
STAND UP
% TO A
COUPLE
OF
KIND
OF
COMMON
% SENSE
REACTIONS TO
WHAT
WE
KNOW
% ARE
THE
FACTS ON THE
GROUND.
% LIKE, FOR
EXAMPLE,
I
F
THAT'S
% TRUE AND IT
WASES
!
! IT
WAS
JUST A
GENERAL
% CONCERN
WITH
CORRUPTION, THEN
% WHY
RELEASE
THE
MILITARY
AID
% AFTER THIS
IS
REVEALED.
% WHY
NOT STICK
TO
YOUR GUNS AND
% SAY, NO,
WE'RE
TRYING
TO
PURSUE
% CORRUPTION HERE.
% SO
WHY
BACK
DOWN?
% WHY DENY
THERE'S A QUID PRO QUO
% WHERE IF THIS
IS A
LEGITIMATE
% AIM,
THEN QUID PRO
QUOS
ARE
DONE
% ALL THE
TIME.
% WHY
NOT
SAY
YES,
IT'S
A QUID PRO
% QUO.%>>
REPUBLICANS
ARE
ALSO
SAYING
% THAT
THIS
REALLY
IS
JUST
THE
% EMBODIMENT OF
DEMOCRATS'
HATRED
% FOR DONALD
TRUMP.
% WHAT
ABOUT
THAT?
% >> THIS
IS A
LINE
THEY
PICKED
UP
% IN
THEIR
MINORITY
REPORT AS
% WELL.
% THEY HAD
QUOTES
FROM
PEOPLE
THE
% DAY AFTER
THE
ELECTION
THAT
WE
% WANT
TO
IMPEACH PRESIDENT
TRUMP.
% THERE'S
PLENTY
OF
HATRED
FOR
THE
% PRESIDENT.
% BUT NANCY PELOSI
REACTED
% STRONGLY
AGAINST THAT
YESTERDAY
% AND
SAID,
NO,
IT'
S
NOT
ABOUT
% HATRED AT ALL.
% IT'S
THEIR
CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY
%
TO DO
THIS.
% AND THAT'S
SOMETHING
THAT
SHE
% WAS
VERY
CLEAR
EARLY
ON
THAT
SHE
% HAD
NO
DESIRE
TO
IMPEACH THE
% PRESIDENT.
% IT
WAS
ONLY AFTER THE
PHONE
CALL
% WITH
DISA
!
THAT
THEY
HAD TO
GO
AHEAD
WITH
% THIS.%>>
YOU
CAME
IN
WITH A QUOTE
FROM
% THE
FEDERALIST
PAPERS.
% DESCRIBE
WHY
YOU
BROUGHT
IT
IN
% AND READ
IT
FOR
US.
% >>
THIS
IS
FROM
ALEXANDER
% HAMILTON
THAT
DEFINES
WHAT
THE
% FOUNDERS
MEANT
BY
IMPEACHMENT.
% THEY
DEFINED
IT
AS A
POLITICAL
% ACT
THAT WOULD
BE
DEFINED
BY
% CONGRESS,
NOT A
LEGAL
ONE,
AND
% AS AN
ABUSE
OF
PUBLIC
POWER
BY% AN OFFICE
HOLDER.
% BUT
THE
PART THAT
I
S
NOT
REALLY
% TALKED ABOUT
AS
MUCH
--
SO
% EVERYONE HAS
BEEN
QUOTING
THOSE
% LINES
FROM
HAMILTON.
% WHAT
HASN'T BEEN
QUOTED IN
THE
% LAST
WEEK
OR
SO
WAS
WHERE
HE
% CONNECTS
THIS
TO
POLITICS
TODAY
% AND
HOW
DIVISIVE
POLITICS COULD
% LEAD
TO
UNDERMINING THE
DUTY
OF
% SENATORS WHO ARE
SERVING
AS
THE
% JURORS IN
THE TRIAL.
% IN MANY
CASES,
WILL
CONNECT
% ITSELF WITH
THE
PREEXISTING
% FACTIONS AND
WILL
ENLIST
ALL OF
% THE
ANIMOSITIES,
PARTIALTIES,
% INFLUENCE ON
ONE
SIDE
O
R
THE
% OTHER.
% THERE WILL
ALSO
BE
THE
GREATEST
% DANGER
THAT
THE
DECISION WILL
BE
% REGULATED MORE BY THE
% COMPARATIVE STRENGTH OF THE
% PARTIES THAN
BY
THE
REAL
% DEMONSTRATIONS OF
INNOCENCE OR
% GUILT.
% SO HAMELL
SON
IS
!
HAMILTON
IS
WARNING
US
BE
% CAREFUL ABOUT
PARTIES
AND
DON'T
% GET STICK IN
YOUR PARTISAN SIDE
% OF
THIS
DEBATE,
BUT
BE
REALLY
% COMPELLED BY
THE
EVIDENCE OF
% INNOCENCE OR GUILT.
% I THINK
THAT'S A
STRONG
REMINDER
% NOT JUST
TO
THE
SENATORS
WHO% WILL BE
SERVING
AS
JURORS
IN
% THIS
CASE,
BUT
TO
THE
AMERICAN
% PUBLIC AS WELL.
% IT
SEEMS TO
BE
SO
LOCKED
INTO
% THEIR
PARTISAN VIEWS
ON
THIS
AND
% DON'T
NECESSARILY SEEM TO BE
% PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
EVIDENCE
% BEFORE
THEM.
% >>
PROFESSOR
CANON,
THANKS VERY
% MUCH.%>> THANK
YOU.
% >>
NOW
TO
ELECTION NEWS
AND A
% CONTROVERSY OVER
VOTING
ROLLS.
% NEARLY A
QUARTER
MILLION
% WISCONSIN
VOTERS
THIS
FALL
GOT
% LETTERS
ASKING WHETHER
THEY
HAD
% MOVED UNDER
PROVISIONS OF
THE
% NATIONAL
ELECTION
REGISTRATION
% INFORMATION
CENTER,
OR
ERIC.
% IF
THOSE
VOTERS DON'T
RESPOND,
% THEY GET
REMOVED
FROM
THE
VOTING
% ROLLS.
% THE STATE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION
% PLANS TO PURGE
THE
UNRESPONSIVE
% VOTERS
AFTER
APRIL,
2021.
% BUT A
LAWSUIT
FILED
LAST
MONTH
% SEEKS
TO
REMOVE
THE
VOTERS
30
% DAYS
AFTER
RECEIPT OF
THE
% MAILING.
% IN
THE
MIDST
OF
ALL
OF
THIS,
THE
% COMMISSION IS
ASKING
THE
STATE
% LEGISLATURE TO
ESTABLISH
% SPECIFIC
PROCEDURES
OR
GRANT
% ELECTION
OFFICIAL RULE-MAKING% AUTHORITY T
O
DECIDE.
% THESE LEGAL
QUESTIONS
AROUND
% VOTER
ELIGIBILITY
COME
LESS
THAN% A YEAR FROM
THE
PRESIDENTIAL% ELECTION
THAT
HAS
WISCONSIN
% PEGGED
AS
THE
MOST
IMPORTANT
% ELECTORATE IN
THE
NATION.
% THE CHAIR OF
THE
WISCONSIN
% ELECTIONS
COMMISSION
IS
DEAN
% KNUDSON
AND
HE
JOINS
US
NOW.
% >>
GLAD TO
B
E
HERE.
% >>
SO,
AGAIN,
THE
ELECTIONS
% COMMISSION
WOULD
MAINTAIN THE
% VOTERS
UNTIL AFTER
THE
2021
% ELECTION.
% WHY
SO
LONG?
% >>
WELL,
THE
2015
LAW
THA
T
MADE
% WISCONSIN A MEMBER OF
ERIC
% PROVIDED
NO
SPECIFIC DIRECTION
% OR AUTHORITY TO
THE
COMMISSION
% FOR
HOW
WE
WOULD
HANDLE
THESE
% VOTERS THAT ARE
IDENTIFIED
AS
% POSSIBLY
MOVED.
% THE
MOVERS'
LIST HAS
BEEN
NOW
% HANDLED
B
Y
ADMINISTRATIVE POLICY% SET
BY
THE
ELECTIONS
COMMISSION.
% WE'VE
DECIDED
THAT
THIS
YEAR
WE
% SENT
THESE
OVER
200,000
% POSTCARDS.
% IF ANYONE
RECEIVED ONE OF
THOSE,% THEY SHOULD
GO
TO
MYVOTEWI
GOF
F
% AND
REVIEW
AND
CORRECT
THEIR
% REGISTRATION AS
NEEDED.
% BUT
WITHOUT ANY
STATUTORY
% DIRECTION
OR
AUTHORITY,
WE'VE% COME UP
WITH A
SYSTEM WHERE
% AFTER
THAT
MAILING
IS
RECEIVED,
% THESE VOTERS
WILL
STILL
BE
ABLE
% TO COME
TO
THE
POLLS,
BUT
WHEN
% THEY
ARRIVE
TO
VOTE,
THEIR
SPOT% ON
THE
POLL
LIST WILL
BE
% DEMARCATED
THAT
SAYS
THEY'RE
ON
% THAT
MOVERS'
LIST.
% THEY'LL B
E
ASKED DID
YOU
AND
% TOLD
THAT
BY
SIGNING
THAT
POLL
% LIST THAT THEY
ARE
AFFIRMING
% THAT THEY HAVE
NOT
MOVED
AND
% THEY
STILL
LIVE AT
THAT
ADDRESS.
% WE
FEEL
THIS
COMPLIES
WITH ALL
% STATE
LAWS.
% VERY CONFIDENT IN
THAT.
% AND
I
THINK IT
WILL
PROVIDE
% UNIFORMITY ACROSS THE
STATE,
% WHICH IS
SOMETHING
WE DIDN'T
% HAVE IN
2017
WHEN
SOME
LOCAL
% OFFICIALS USED
THEIR
LOCAL
% CONTROL AND
PREROGATIVE TO
WANT
% TO
REACTIVATE
THE
VOTERS
THAT
% HAD
BEEN
INACTIVATED ON
THE
% MOVERS'
LIST.% >>
MEANWHILE,
THIS
LAWSUIT
% AGAINST THE
COMMISSION
WOULD
% DEACTIVATE SUCH
VOTERS
AFTER
30
% DAYS.
% IS
THERE
SOMETHING WRONG WITH
% THAT, IN YOUR
MIND?
% >>
WELL,
I'M
PRETTY CONFIDENT
% THAT
THE
LAWSUIT
--
THAT
!
--
THAT
THE
% COMMISSION HAS
FOLLOWED
THE
LAW.
% THE
WILL
LAWSUIT CLAIMS
THAT
THE
% COMMISSION HAS
THE
AUTHORITY AND
% THE
MANDATE
TO
INACTIVATE, BUT
% WE
DON'T
FIND
EITHER
OF
THOSE
IN
% THE
STATUTES.
% FOR
FOUR-YEAR VOTER
MAINTENANCE,
% SECTIONS
ONE
AND
TWO OF
THE
LAW
% YOU
REFERENCED DEAL
WITH
THAT
% AND
SPECIFICALLY
SAY
THAT
THERE% WILL
BE A
MAILING
AFTER
30
DAYS,
% THEY'RE
INACTIVATED.
% SECTION
THREE
DOESN'T
MENTION
% THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION AT
ALL.
% IT ONLY
GIVES
THAT
AUTHORITY TO
% THE LOCAL
CLERKS
T
O
DO
IN
% ACTIVATION.
% SO
BECAUSE WE
TRIED
TO DO
IT
% THAT
WAY
IN
2017,
IT
WOULDN'T
% HOLD
UP.
% WE
NEED
SOMETHING
THAT'S
% UNIFORM.
% AND
WE
REALLY
NEED
GUIDANCE FROM
% THE
LEGISLATURE.% >>
WELL,
MEANWHILE, THE
GROUP
% THAT'S
FILED
THE
LAWSUIT SAYS
% THAT THE
ELECTIONS
COMMISSION IS
% PUTTING
WISCONSIN'S
ELECTION
% INTEGRITY
AT
RISK.
% IS WHAT
YOU'RE
DOING
LIKELY
TO
% LEAD
TO
FRAUDULENT
VOTING?
% >>
SO
EVERYONE THAT'S
ON
THAT
% LIST
IS A
REGISTERED VOTER.
% WHEN
THEY
ARRIVE
AT
THE
POLL,
% THEY
WON'T
VOTE UNLESS
HE
THEY
% AFFIRM AND
SWEAR
BY
SIGNING
THAT
% POLL
LIST
THAT
THEY
STILL
LIVE% AT
THAT
ADDRESS
WHERE
THEY'RE
% REGISTERED.
% IN MOST
CASES,
THEY
ACTUALLY DID
% MOVE.
% AND
I
N
2017,
WE
FOUND
THAT
THE
% FALSE
POSITIVE
MATCH
RATE
RAN
% AROUND
6%
TO
7%.
% THIS
TIME,
WE
EXPECT MAYBE IT
% WILL
BE DOWN
TO
3%
OR SOMETHING% IN THAT NEIGHBORHOO
D.
% TIME WILL
TELL.
% SO
FAR,
SINCE
THE
MAILING WENT
% OUT,
ABOUT A
HALF A
PERCENT HAVE
% GONE IN
AND
SAID,
HEY,
WE
DO
% ACTUALLY
STILL
LIVE
HERE.
% WE
WERE A
FALSE
POSITIVE
MATCH% ON
THE
ERIC
LIST
MATCH.
% THIS
IS
WHY IT
WOULD
BE
SO
% HELPFUL TO
HAVE
SPECIFIC
% STATUTORY
GUIDELINES AND
% AUTHORITY, WHICH
WE
DON'T
HAVE.
% THIS
ISN'T
THE ONLY
AREA,
% FREDERICA.
% THE
2015
LAW
ALSO
DIDN'T
DEAL
% WITH ANOTHER
PART
OF
ERIC,
WHICH
% DEALS
WITH
WHEN
ERIC
FINDS
THAT% A
VOTER MAY HAVE
VOTED
IN
TWO
% DIFFERENT STATES IN
THE
SAME
% ELECTION,
THE
2015
LAW
WAS
% COMPLETELY SILENT ON
THAT AS
% WELL.
% THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION
HAS
% DECIDED THAT
WHEN
WE
GET
% EVIDENCE
THAT
THAT MAY HAVE
% HAPPENED,
WE'RE
GOING
TO
LOOK
% THROUGH THAT EVIDENCE
AND
MAKE
% CRIMINAL REFERRALS WHEN
THE
% EVIDENCE SUPPORTS THAT.
% WE
WILL
NOT
TOLERATE VOTER
FRAUD
% IN
WISCONSIN.% >> HAVEN'T
YOU
HEARD
FROM
THE
% LEGISLATURE ON
THIS
AND
THEY'VE
% SAID,
YEAH, GO
AHEAD
AND
FOLLOW
% THE STATUTE
THAT
THE
LAWSUIT
% CITES?%>>
WELL,
I
RECEIVED A
LETTER
% YESTERDAY FROM
THE
TWO
ORIGINAL
% CO-AUTHORS OF THE
2015
BILL,
TWO
% STATE
SENATORS,
SAYING
THAT,
% WELL, YOU
SHOULD
FOLLOW
THE
% SECTION OF THE
LAW
THAT
DEALS
% WITH THE
FOUR-YEAR LIST
% MAINTENANCE.
% THIS
ISN'T
FOUR-YEAR
LIST
% MAINTENANCE.
% AND
SO
WE
REALLY
D
O
NEED TO
HAVE
% THE
LEGISLATURE
GET INVOLVED.
% IN ABSENCE OF
THAT,
I
WELCOME
% PERSONALLY --
NOT
SPEAKING FOR
% THE
COMMISSION, BUT
PERSONALLY
% AS
ONE
MEMBER OF THE
COMMISSION,
% I
WELCOME THE
LAWSUIT
IF
IT
WILL
% HELP
BRING
CLARITY.
% BUT
I
SUSPECT IT
WILL
NOT
% BECAUSE I
THINK
THE
JUDGE
WILL
% LOOK AT
THE
LETTER OF
THE
LAW
% AND SAY YOU
HAVE
NO
AUTHORITY
% RIGHT
NOW
TO
DO
THAT IN
% ACTIVATION.%>> ALL RIGHT.
% WE
NEED
TO
LEAVE
IT
THERE.
% THERE
IS A
COURT
HEARING
ON
THIS
% NEXT
FRIDAY.
% DEAN
KNUDSON,
THANKS VERY
MUCH
%
FOR
JOINING
US.
% >>
THANKS FOR
HAVING
ME.
% >>
A
S
MENTIONED, A
LAWSUIT
FILED
% AGAINST THE
ELECTIONS
COMMISSION
% LAST MONTH
SEEKS
TO
REMOVE
% UNRESPONSIVE VOTERS 30
DAYS
% AFTER
RECEIPT OF
THE
MAILING.
% THE
LAWSUIT
WAS
FILED
BY
THE
% WISCONSIN INSTITUTE FOR LAW
AND
% LIBERTY.
% RICK
ESENBERG
IS
THE
PRESIDENT
% AND
GENERAL
COUNSEL OF THE
% INSTITUTE.
% HE JAINS
!
JOINS
US FROM UK MA.
% WHY DID
YOU
FILE A
LAWSUIT
% AGAINST
VOTERS
WHO
DON'T
ACT
% AFTER 30
DAYS?
% >> THIS
IS
REALLY
ABOUT
% FOLLOWING THE
LAW.
% THE
LEGISLATURE
HAS
DECIDED
THAT
% IT'S IMPORTANT
FOR
OUR
VOTER
% ROLLS TO
BE
ACCURATE,
BOTH
FOR
% PURPOSES
OF
EFFICIENT ELECTION
% ADMINISTRATION
FOR
THE
% PREVENTION
AND
THE
POSSIBILITY
% OF FRAUD.
% SO
IT
HAS
TOLD
THE
WISCONSIN
% ELECTION
COMMISSION
THAT
IF
IT
% HAS RELIABLE
EVIDENCE
THAT
% SOMEONE
HAS
MOVED
FROM
THE
% ADDRESS
AT
WHICH
THEY'RE
% REGISTERED, THAT
THERE'S A
% PROCEDURE TO BE
FOLLOWED.
% THESE
INDIVIDUALS
ARE TO
BE
SENT% A
POSTCARD.
% IF
THEY
DON'T
RETURN
THE
% POSTCARD
WITHIN
30
DAYS,
THEIR
% REGISTRATION
IS
DEACTIVATED.
% THIS DOESN'T
MEAN
THEY
CAN'T
% VOTE,
BECAUSE HERE IN
WISCONSIN,% OF
COURSE, YOU HAVE
SAME-DAY
% REGISTRATION.
% AND
SO
IF
SOMEONE
GOES
TO
T
HE
% POLLS TO
VOTE
AND
THEY'RE
NOT
% REGISTERED,
THEY
CAN
REREGISTER% AND
CAST
THEIR
BALLOT.% >> S
O
THE
ELECTIONS
COMMISSION,
% AS WE
KNOW,
WANTED
TO
GIVE
THESE
% PEOPLE UNTIL
APRIL,
2021.
% WHAT'S THE DANGER OF
KEEPING
% VOTERS ACTIVE
EVEN
IF THEY
HAVE
% TO
REREGISTER
AT
THE
POLLS?
% >>
WELL,
I
THINK THERE ARE
TWO
% THINGS.
% FIRST OF
ALL,
THE
DETERMINATION
% OF
HOW
YOU
SHOULD
GO
ABOUT
% MAINTAINING THE
ROLLS
AND
WHEN
% YOU
SHOULD
DEACTIVATE
SOMEONE'S
% REGISTRATION
IS A
DETERMINATION
% FOR THE
LEGISLATURE.
% AND
THE
LEGISLATURE HAS
PASSED A
% LAW
WHICH
SPECIFIES THIS
PERIOD
% OF REMOVAL
FOR
FAILURE
TO
RETURN% A
POSTCARD.
% IF
WE
DON'T
LIKE
THAT,% ADMINISTRATIVE
AGENCIES
LIKE
THE
% ELECTION
COMMISSION CAN'T
SIMPLY
% IGNORE
THAT.
% THEY
WOULD
HAVE TO GO
T
O
THE
% LEGISLATURE AND
ASK
THEM
TO
% CHANGE THE LAW.
% SO
THE
FIRST
CONCERN IS
RULE
OF
% LAW.
% NOW, I
THINK
THE REASON
THAT
THE
% LEGISLATURE HAS
DONE
THIS
IS
% THAT
OVER
TIME
-
AND THIS IS
% NOT A PROBLEM ONLY IN
WISCONSIN,
% BUT
NATIONALLY
-
OUR
VOTER
% ROLLS
HAVE
BECOME
QUITE
% INACCURATE.%YOU
KNOW, THERE ARE
ESTIMATES
% THAT ONE
IN
EIGHT
REGISTRATIONS
% ARE
OUTDATED.
% THIS CREATES
PROBLEMS
WITH
% ELECTION
ADMINISTRATION, AND
IT
% ALSO
CREATES
THE
POTENTIAL FOR
% FRAUD,
IN
THE
SENSE
THAT THERE
% ARE
MANY
PEOPLE WHO ARE
LISTED
% AS
BEING
REGISTERED
AT A
% PARTICULAR ADDRESS
WHO
CAN
% REQUEST
ABSENTEE
BALLOTS
OR
% ABSENTEE
BALLOTS CAN
BE
% REQUESTED IN
THEIR
NAME.
% SO OUR
LEGISLATURE HAS
% DETERMINED THAT WE
OUGHT
T
O
DO
% WHAT WE
CAN,
TAKE
REASONABLE% STEPS
TO ENSURE
THAT
THE
ROLLS
% ARE
ACCURATE.% >>
LET
ME
TALK
ABOUT
THAT
% STATUTE
FOR A
MINUTE,
WHICH
YOU
% CITE,
WHICH
SAYS IF
THE
ELECTOR
% NO LONGER
RESIDES
IN
THE
% MUNICIPALITY OR
FAILS
TO
APPLY
% FOR
THE
CONTINUATION
OF
% REGISTRATION WITHIN 30
DAYS OF
% THE
DATE
THE
NOTICE IS
MAILED,
% THE
CLERK
OR BOARD
OF
ELECTION
% COMMISSIONERS SHALL
CHANGE
THE
% REGISTRATION FROM
ELIGIBLE
TO
% INELIGIBLE STATUS.
% BUT
THE
COMMISSION
TELLS
ME
THAT
% THAT
STATUTE
APPLIES
TO
% MUNICIPAL CLERKS
AND
DOESN'T
% DEFINE RELIABLE
INFORMATION
% ABOUT ADDRESS
CHANGES.
% WHAT ABOUT
THAT?
% >> THERE ARE
TWO
ISSUES.
% ONE
IS
THE
APPLICABILITY OF THE
% STATUTE.
% NOW,
THE
LEGISLATURE
ENACTED
AND
% DEPUTIZED
THE
WISCONSIN
ELECTION
% COMMISSION
TO
MAINTAIN A
% STATEWIDE
REGISTRATION
LIST A
% NUMBER OF
YEARS
AGO.
% AND IT
IS
NONSENSICAL
TO
SUPPOSE
% THAT
THE
LEGISLATURE, HAVING
% GIVEN
THIS
RESPONSIBILITY TO
THE
% WISCONSIN
ELECTION
COMMISSION,
% DOESN'T INTEND
THAT
THE
ELECTION
% COMMISSION COMPLY WITH
ALL
THE
% VARIOUS
OBLIGATIONS THAT
ARE
% IMPOSED
O
N
ELECTION
OFFICIALS
IN
% MAINTAINING THAT
ROLL.
% SO
ESSENTIALLY
FOR
T
HE
ELECTION
% COMMISSION TO SAY
THAT
THE
LAW
% DOESN'T APPLY
TO
THEM
MEANS
THAT% THEY HAVE SOMEHOW
EXES
EMPTIED
% THEMSELVES FROM EVERYTHING THAT
% THE
STATUTE
SAYS
ABOUT
HOW
THOSE
% ROLLS
ARE TO
BE
MAINTAINED.% >>
LET'S
JUST
CUT
IN
HERE A
% MINUTE
AND
ASK WHAT YOU
THINK
OF
% HAVING
THE
LEGISLATURE WEIGH IN
% ON
THIS
NOW
AND
OFFER
GUIDANCE
% ON
SPECIFIC PROCEDURES
AS
THE
% ELECTIONS COMMISSION IS NOW
% SEEKING IN
THE
MIDST
OF
ALL
OF
% THIS.%>> RIGHT.%IN
THE
MIDST
OF
ALL
THIS
THE
% ELECTION COMMISSION HAS
INFORMED
% THE COURT THAT
THEY'RE
GOING TO
% ASK THE
LEGISLATURE
FOR
% GUIDANCE.
% THE
LEGISLATURE PROVIDED
THAT
% GUIDANCE
AND
TOLD
THEM
THE
LAW
% COULDN'T BE
CLEARER,
THAT
THEY
% OUGHT TO FOLLOW
THE
LAW
AS
IT'S
% BEEN
WRITTEN UNTIL
SUCH
TIME
AS
% THE
LEGISLATURE
CHANGED
IT.
% I DON'T THINK
IT'S
WRONG
TO
% IMPOSE
SOME
OBLIGATION
ON
VOTERS
% TO RESPOND
TO A
NOTIFICATION
% LIKE THIS.
% AND,
AGAIN,
IF
THEY
DON'T
% RESPOND IN
THE
NOTIFICATION,
% BECAUSE WE
HAVE
SAME-DAY
% REGISTRATION,
THEY WON'T BE
% DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
VOTE.
% THEY'LL
SIMPLY
HAVE
TO
% REREGISTER
AT
THE
POLLS.
% BECAUSE WE
HAVE
PHOTO
I.D.
EVERY
% VOTER WILL
HAVE
THE
% DOCUMENTATION
TO
REREGISTER.% >> RICK
ESENBERG,
THANKS VERY
% MUCH.%>> THANK YOU.%>>
WISCONSIN IS
NOW
HOME
TO A
% NATIONAL
ORGANIZATION'S
FLAGSHIP
% SAFE
HOUSE
FOR
SUFFER
!
SURVIVORS
OF SEX
% TRAFFICKING.
% WHY SUCH
HOUSING
IS
SO
BADLY
% NEEDED.
% WE
CHECK
IN
WITH
PRESIDENT AND
% CEO
, ELIZABETH MELENDEZ FISHER
% GOOD.
% THE
MISSION
OF
HER
ORGANIZATION?
% TO
END SEX
TRAFFICKING
AND
WORK
% ON
AWARENESS, OUTREACH.
% THANK
YOU
FOR
BEING
HERE.
% >> THANK
YOU.
% >>
ACCORDING TO
YOUR
WEBSITE,
% CHICAGO IS IN
THE
TOP
FIVE
% CITIES FOR SEX
TRAFFICKING AND
% MILWAUKEE HAS BEEN DEEMED
THE% "HARVARD FOR PIMPS."
% WHAT
DOES
THAT
MILWAUKEE
% DESIGNATION
MEAN?
% >>
ISN'T
THAT
CRAZY?
% IT'S
SOMETHING THAT WAS OUT
% THERE THAT THIS
IS A
PLACE
WHERE
% PIMPS WILL COME
TO
LEARN
BECAUSE
% SOME
CITIES
ARE
MUCH
MORE
% ADVANCED ON
FINDING
AND
CLEARING% OUT
TRAFFICKING
OR
SOME
AREAS
% THAT
THEY
SAY
WE
DON'T
BRING
% GIRLINGS
!
GIRLS
HERE.
% LAW
ENFORCEMENT IS
ALL
OVER
US.
% THE GREAT
THING
THAT WE CAN
SAY
% IS WE
WERE
EXCITED TO
SEE
THAT
% STAT BECAUSE
WE'VE
OPENED
THIS
% AMAZING HOME
AND
WE
WILL
TURN
% WISCONSIN
INTO A
SOLUTION
% CENTER.
% BECAUSE
VULNERABLE
CHILDREN ARE
% EVERYWHERE.%I DON'T
THINK
PEOPLE
REALIZE
% THAT SEX
TRAFFICKING
IS
NOT
% TAKEN
IN
INDONESIA, BUT
KIDS
IN
% OUR
MIDWEST.
% I GREW U
P
IN
CHICAGO.
% IT'S
AMAZING
WHAT'S
HAPPENING
% UNDER
EVERYBODY'S
NOSE.
% >>
YOU
DESCRIBE TOO
THAT
% CORRIDOR BETWEEN
CHICAGO
AND
% MILWAUKEE
IS
PARTICULARLY
KIND
% OF
DANGEROUS
FOR
EXPLOITATION
% AND SEX
TRAFFICKING.% >>
WELL,
WHAT
HAPPENS
IS
IF YOU
% HAVE A LITTLE GIRL
AND
IT
ALWAYS
% COMES
FROM
SOMEONE THAT
WAS
% KEEPING A SECRET
OF
CHILDHOOD
% SEXUAL ABUSE.
% THEY
WERE
LIED
TO
AND
C
OERCED.
% IF
THEY RUN
AWAY
AND
THEY'RE
OUT
% THERE
LOOKING,
RUN
TO
CHICAGO,
% TRAFFICKERS ARE
LOOKING
FOR
% VULNERABLE
CHILDREN.
% THEY
SAY,
HEY,
I
BET
YOU'RE HUNG
% RILL?
% I'LL
L
OVE
YOU.
% I
BET
YOUR
PARENTS
DIDN'T LOVE
% YOU.
% THEY CALL THE
PIMPS
NOW
ROMEO
% PIMPS
BECAUSE
THEY
LURE
THEM
IN.
% THEY
SELL
THEM
ONE
NIGHT HERE% AND
BACK
AND
FORTH
FROM
CHICAGO% TO
MILWAUKEE.
% THINK
OF
ALL
THE
ACTIVITIES
AND
% THE SPORTS AND
THE
VENUES
THAT% WE HAVE.
% >>
SO
MEANWHILE YOU HAVE
REBUILT
% THIS
SAFE HOUSE
AND
YOU
CALL
IT
% THE
FLAGSHIP.% >>
FLAGSHIP
HOME.
% >>
DESCRIBE THAT FOR
US.
% >>
IT'S
AMAZING.% THERE
WAS A
GENEROUS
GROUP
THAT
% DONATED THIS HOME
TO
US.
% IT'S
7700
SQUARE
FEED.
% IT
HAS
20
BEDS
AND
GIRLS
ARE
% HAVING
SERVICES NOW
AND
IT'S
% GOING TO
BE FILLED
UP
IN
THE
% NEXT 30
DAYS.
% AND
LITERALLY IT
WAS
GIVEN
% THINKING THIS WAS
GOING TO
BE A
% QUICK TRANSFORMATION AND
WE
HAD
% TO
GUT
IT DOWN
TO
STUDS.
% SO THE
PHOTOS
YOU
ARE
SHOWING,% IT IS
TRANSFORMED.
% WE DO
HAVE A
COLOR
PALATE
% BECAUSE A GIRL FROM THE
STREETS,
% SHE WALKS
IN
AND
SHE
CAN'T
% BELIEVE SHE
GETS
TO
LIVE
HERE.
% ATMOSPHERE
ELEVATES.
% THEY
CAN'T
GO BACK
TO
THE
% STREETS
AND
SEE
THINGS
THE
SAME.
% WE
TRY
TO
MAKE A
BIG
IMPACT
WHEN
% THEY
HIT
US
FOR
THE FIRST
TIME.
% >> WHAT
DO
THEY
NEED
MOST?
% >>
THE
Y
DON'T
BELIEVE
THEY'RE
% WORTH
IT.
% RESIDENCE CHEL
!
RESIDENTIAL IS
ONE
PROGRAM.
% EVEN THOUGH
SHE'S
BEEN ON
THE
% STREET
SINCE SHE WAS
12
OR
14,
% SOLD
FOR
SEX
15
TO
40
TIMES A
% DAY, THESE
13,
14,
15-YEAR-OLDS
% ARE SOLD.
% THESE
ARE
AMERICAN GIRLS
BOUGHT
% BY
OUR
OWN
MEN.
% LITERALLY SHE
IS
TOLD THIS
IS
% ALL YOU'RE
WORTH.
% THIS IS
YOUR
VALUE.
% SO
OUR
OUTREACH TEAM
THAT'S ON
% THE STREETS AND
IN
THE
JAILS
AND
% IN
THE
COURTS
BETWEEN HERE
AND
% MILWAUKEE AND
ALL OVER
THE
STATE
% ARE
REACHING OUT
TO
THESE
GIRLS.
% WE WILL
CHASE A GIRL
FOR
TWO
% YEARS
TO
HELP
HER
BELIEVE
% THERE'S MORE FOR
YOU.
% SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE IT.
% SO
COMING
IN
TO
DREAM
AND
HOPE
% AGAIN.
% THEN WE
HAVE
EVENTS
LIKE
% RESTORING A
CHILDHOOD THAT WAS
% STOLEN.
% >> HOW
LONG
CAN
THEY
STAY?
% >> ONE TO
THREE
YEARS.
% SUCH A BIG NUMBER OF
OUR% GRADUATES
ARE
ON
STAFF.
% FIRST TIME
IN A
HEALTHY
% COMMUNITY.
% IT CHANGES
EVERYTHING.
% 100%
OF
THEM
GET
THEIR
GED.
% WE DON'T
GET
THEM
UNTIL
THEY'RE
% 18.
% SO
THEY HAVE
BEEN ON
THE
STREETS
% AND
ABUSED
SINCE THEY WERE
% CHILDREN.
% AN
18-YEAR-OLD
IS
% DEVELOPMENTALLY STILL
12.
% HORSE
THERAPY,
PUPPY
THERAPY.
% ONE GIRL
IS
LIKE
I
COULD
SING.
% I
NEVER
KNEW I
WAS
MUSICAL.
% BEAUTIFUL.%>>
WHILE
YOU
ARE
IN
WISCONSIN
% YOU
ARE
MEETING
WITH
OUR
% ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
% TO WHAT
END?
% >>
TO
SHARE
THE
LEGISLATION HAS% BEEN
WAITING
FOR
OUR
HOME
TO
% OPEN.
% IT WAS
GIFTED
TO
US
ALMOST THREE
% YEARS
AGO.
% NO
ONE
KNEW WE
WERE
GOING TO
% HAVE TO
GUT
IT DOWN
TO
STUD.
% WE
MISSED
THE
LAST
LEGISLATION.
% NOW
IT ALL
TURNED OVER.
% SO THIS I
S
OUR
FIRST
MEETING
TO
% SAY
WE'RE
HERE,
WE'RE UP AND
% RUNNING,
JUST
INTRODUCE HOW
% COMMITTED WE ARE TO
STANDING
AND
% TURNING WISCONSIN
INTO
THE
% NATIONAL
SOLUTION
CENTER.% >>
WAS
THERE
PARTICULAR
% LEGISLATION OR WAS
IT
JUST
--
% >>
EVERYONE
TURNED
OVER.
% WE
KNEW
THE
LAST
GOVERNOR
AND
% ATTORNEY GENERAL
AND THEY
WERE
% VERY
EXCITED
FOR
OUR
HOME
TO
% OPEN AND
THEY
TERMED
OUT
BEFORE% WE
OPENED.
% WE'RE
HOPING
THERE'S
THE
SAME
% ENTHUSIASM TO GET
INTO
THE
STATE
% BUDGET.
% WE NEED A LOT
OF
SUPPORT.
% WE
TYPICALLY
HAVE
400
VOLUNTEERS
% PER MARKET.
% IT
TAKES
MILLIONS A YEAR
TO
RUN
% ALL
OF
OUR
PROGRAMS AND
GETTING
% IN
THE
STATE
BUDGET WOULD
BE
% FANTASTIC.%>>
IF
PEOPLE
NEED
MORE
% INFORMATION?
% >>
SAY
!
SELAHFREEDOM.COM.% >>
THANK
YOU SO
MUCH.% >> THANK
YOU.
% >>
RESPONDING
TO
GUN
INCIDENTS
% IN WISCONSIN SCHOOLS THIS
WEEK,
% GOVERNOR TONY EVERS SAID
THE
% STATE
SHOULD
PROVIDE
MORE
% FUNDING
FOR
MENTAL HEALTH% RESOURCES FOR STUDEN
TS.
% HE ALSO
TWEETED
WE
CAN'T
JUST
% ACCEPT
THAT
VIOLENCE
IN
OUR
% SCHOOLS IS A
FOREGONE CONCLUSION
% AND WE HAVE
TO
WORK
TO
KEE
P
OUR
% KIDS
AND
OUR COMMUNITY
SAFE.
% THE
GOVERNOR'S
COMMENTS
CAME
% AFTER OFFICERS
SHOT
AND
INJURED% AN
ARMED
STUDENT
AT A
WAUKESHA
% HIGH
SCHOOL AS
WELL
AS
ONE
AT
% OSHKOSH HIGH.
% A
RECENT
SPECIAL
SESSION OF THE
% LEGISLATURE
EVERS
CALLED
ON
GUN
% CONTROL
WASES
GAVELED
IN
AND
OUT
% BY
REPUBLICANS WITHOUT
ACTION.
% >>
AND
FINALLY
TONIGHT, NEWS
AT
% THE
STATE
CAPITOL
WITH A
HOLIDAY
% TWIST.
% THE HOLIDAY
TREE
WAS
LIT
UP
AT
% THE
STATE
CAPITOL
THIS
% AFTERNOON.
% THE
LIGHTS
SHOWCASE
DECORATIONS
% SENT FROM
STUDENTS AROUND THE
% STATE AND
HAVE A "CELEBRATE% SCIENCE" THEME.
% THE
TREE WILL BE
ON
DISPLAY
% UNTIL
JANUARY 2.
% AND THAT
IS
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
% TONIGHT.
% I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
% HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.
% >>
FUNDING
FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
% PROVIDED, IN
PART,
BY
FRIENDS
OF
% WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.