COMPANY
AT THE SAME TIME % HIS FATHER OVER
SAW
UKRAINIAN
% RELATIONS
WITH
OBAMA.
% >> OUR NEXT GUEST
HAS BEEN
% TEACHING HIS
POLITICAL
SCIENCE
% STUDENTS
THIS
WEEK ABOUT
THE
% IMPEACHMENT
PROCESS.
% DAVID
CANNON
IS
HERE.
% >>
GOOD
TO BE
HERE.% >>
FIRST
OF
ALL, WHAT STOOD OUT
% TO
IN
THIS
WHISTLE
BLOWER
% COMPLAINT?
% >> WE
HEARD
THE
PHONE
CALL
AND
% THE
DETAILS
OF THE
TRANSCRIPT
% AND
ONE THING
THAT
BROKE
OUT
TO
% ME WAS THE
COVER
UP
ANGLE.
% THE
PEOPLE
IN
THE
WHITE HOUSE % RIGHT
AFTER
THE
CONVERSATION % WERE VERY
CONCERNED
ABOUT
THE
% CONTENT OF
THAT
PHONE
CALL.
% AND
THEN
IMMEDIATELY PUT
IT
INTO
% LOCK
DOWN
MODE
ON THIS
SERVER
% THAT WAS
PASSWORD
PROTECTED
THAT% ONLY
TOP-LEVEL
PEOPLE
HAD
ACCESS
% TO.
% THAT WAS A
STRONG
INDICATION % THEY
KNEW
THERE WAS
SOMETHING
% PROBLEMATIC IN
THE
PHONE
CALL.
% CALLING IT A
COVER UP IS % BASICALLY
ACCURATE
IN
TERMS
OF
% HOW
THEY'RE
DEALING WITH
THIS.% >> IS
WHAT
IS
HAPPENING
% UNPRECEDENTED.%>>
IT
REALLY
IS.
% A PRESIDENT
ASKING
A
FOREIGN % COUNTRY
TO
DIG
UP
DIRT
ON
A
% RIVAL.
% BASICALLY
USING
THE
POWER
OF THE
% PRESIDENTIAL OFFICE AND
% POTENTIALLY
UNDERMINING
FOREIGN
% POLICY AND
SECURITY BY
WITH
% HOLDING
$400 MILLION
IN
AID
TO
A% CRITICAL
COUNTRY
WHILE
THIS
% WHOLE
PROCESS
UNFOLDS
IN
TERMS
% OF WILL
UKRAINE DO
HIS
BIDDING
% AND
DO
THE
INVESTIGATIONS THAT % HE'S ASKIN
G FOR
IN
THIS
PHONE
% CALL.%THAT
REALLY
IS
UNPRECEDENTED.% >> CAN IT
NO,
THOUGH,
BE
% DESCRIBED
AS
THE
PRESIDENT
% DESCRIBES
IT
AS
A WITCH
HUNT?
% I DON'T THINK
SO,
BASED
ON
THE
% FACTS
WE
KNOW
ALREADY
AND
THE
% FACTS
THE
PRESIDENT
ADMITTED
TO,
% HE
DID
BRING
UP
VICE PRESIDENT
% BIDEN AND
HUNTER
BIDEN
IN
THIS
% PHONE
CALL,
THAT
I
THINK IS
% UNCONTESTED IN
TERMS
OF THE
% FACTS
HOW
PEOPLE
DIFFER, IS % WHETHER OR NOT THERE
NEEDS TO BE
% AN
EXPLICIT
QUID
PRO
QUO
AND
% HELP YOU
OUT.
% OR
IS
JUST
THE
ASKING
ENOUGH?
% YOU
DO
GET
DIFFERENCES
OF
% OPINION
THERE.
% WHERE
AND
PEOPLE ARE
SAYING
% WITHOUT
THE
EVIDENCE OF
QUID
PRO
% QUO
BUT
ASKING I
S
ENOUGH.
% ONE
THING
THAT
I
THINK
REALLY
% HAS
COME
OUT
IN
LAST
24
HOURS
IS
% THE
CIA
OPERATIVE,
SOMEONE WHO % HAS
INSIDE KNOWLEDGE
ABOUT
% UKRAINE
HAS
INSIDE
INFORMATION % AND
POLICY IN THE
AREA.
% IT'S
A
LEGITIMATE QUESTION TO
% BRING
UP
IN
TERMS
OF
WHAT
WAS
% THIS
ALL
FIRST
HAND
INFORMATION?
% I
WASN'T
ON THE PHONE
CALLS BUT
% FROM
OTHER THINGS
I
HEARD FROM
% PEOPLE
WHO
WERE
INVOLVED.
% GIVEN
THE
PERSON'S POSITION
AS
% THE
CENTER OF
DIGESTING
ALL OF % THE CRITICAL INFORMATION
FROM
% THAT
REGION, IT
REALLY
IS
VERY
% WELL
SITUATED
FOR
MAKING
THIS
% WHISTLE
BLOWER
COMPLAINT BECAUSE% THEY
KNOW
THE
STRATEGIC
% QUESTIONS
INVOLVED.% >>
IN
TERMS
OF THE
PROCESS,
YOU
% HAVE BEEN INSTRUCTING
YOUR
% POLY-SCI
STUDENTS
ON
% IMPEACHMENT.
% >> SOMETIMES
PEOPLE USE
THE
WORD
% IMPEACHMENT AS
REMOVAL
OF
% OFFICE.%IT'S A
TWO-STEP
PROCESS.
% THE FIRST
IS
THE
HOUSE
% IMPEACHING
WITH
A
MAJORITY
VOTE.
% THAT'S THE
CHARGES AGAINST
THE
% PERSON
AND
THE
TRIAL
GOES
TO THE
% SENATE.
% THAT'S
WHERE
BY
A
TWO-THIRDS % VOTE
THE
PRESIDENT WOULD BE
% REMOVED
IF
CONVICTED.
% BILL
CLINTON WAS
IMPEACHED
BUT
% NOT
REMOVED.
% HE MAY BE
IMPEACHED
BUT NOT
% REMOVED
IF
REPUBLICANS
DON'T
GET
% ON
BOARD.
% YOU
NEED 20
REPUBLICANS
TO VOTE
% FOR CONVICTION IN ORDER TO
% REMOVE THE
PRESIDENT.
% THAT'S
THE FIRST
POINT.
% THE
SECOND
IS
WHAT
IT
TAKES
TO
% GET
IMPEACHMENT
CHARGE
AND
THE
% CONSTITUTION
IS
VERY
SPARSE
IN
% ITS
LANGUAGE.
% BRIBERY
AND
MISDEMEANORS.% IT
COMES
DOWN
TO
WHAT
A
GIVEN
% HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES SAYS I
T% IS AT
A
GIVEN
POINT
IN
TIME.
% THERE'S
NO
CRIME
THAT
HAS
TO BE
% INVOLVED.
% IT'S
JUST IF THERE IS
A
%