%
>> I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
%TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW":
%THE CARDINAL-HICKORY CREEK
%TRANSMISSION LINE GOT A GREEN
%LIGHT FROM THE PUBLIC SERVICE
%COMMISSION.
%WE'LL HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES OF
%THAT DECISION.
%OUR SERIES OF INTERVIEWS WITH
%MEMBERS OF GOVERNOR TONY EVERS'%
CABINET CONTINUES.
%TONIGHT I TALK WITH CORRECTIONS
%SECURITY-DESIGNEE KEVIN CARR.
%AND WE HEAR FROM A REPUBLICAN
%CO-SPONSOR OF A BILL THAT WOULD
%ALLOW PHARMACISTS TO PRESCRIBE
%BIRTH CONTROL.
%IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR
%AUGUST 23.
%FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
%PROVIDED IN PART BY FRIENDS OF
%WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
%>>
OVER
STIFF
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THE
%STATE PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION
%VOTED
UNANIMOUSLY THIS WEEK
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%APPROVE
A
NEARLY
100-MILE
LONG
%HIGH
VOLTAGE
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%FROM
IOWA
THROUGH
SOUTHWEST
%WISCONSIN.
%THE
CARDINAL-HICKORY CREEK LINE
%WILL
START
IN
DUBUQUE
AND
HEAD
%THROUGH WISCONSIN
TO
JUST
WEST
%OF
MADISON.
%RATE
PAYERS
IN
WISCONSIN
WILL
%PAY
ABOUT
$67 MILLION OF
THE%$500 MILLION
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%THE
VOTE
CAME
AMID
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%FROM
LAND
OWNERS IN
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%AND CONSERVATION
GROUPS, AS WELL
%AS
SEVERAL
STATE
LEGISLATORS%WHOSE DISTRICTS ARE
LOCATED
%ALONG
THE
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%THE
PSC
CHAIR,
A GOVERNOR TONY
%EVERS
APPOINTEE, SAID
THE
%DECISION WAS
DIFFICULT,
BUT
H
AS
%LONG-TERM
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.
%>>
THIS
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NOT
ONLY
FOR
%THE
TYPES
OF
ENERGY TO
BE
%PRODUCED
BUT
WHERE
THE
CLEAN
%ENERGY COMES
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%WE
NEED
CLEAN
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%BUILT RIGHT
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WISCONSIN,
%BUT WE
ALSO
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BOTH
%RESOURCES
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%THE ONLY
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%SOURCES
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%WISCONSIN IS
WITH
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.
%THE
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NOT
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THIS
%LINE
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JUST
%TOO
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%I'M VOTING
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%ENSURE
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%ORIGIN
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%CLEAN ENERGY CAN
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%>>
THE
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T
NEW
%LINES CAN BE
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CLEAN
%ENERGY IS
SHARED
BY
RENEW
%WISCONSIN, A
NON-PROFIT
%ORGANIZATION THAT
PROMOTES
%RENEWABLE
ENERGY IN THE
STATE.
%TYLER
HUEBNER
IS
THE
EXECUTIVE%DIRECTOR OF
RENEW
AND
HE
JOINS
%US NOW.
%THANKS A LOT
FOR
BEING
HERE.%>> THANK YOU FOR
HAVING
US.
%>>
SO
TELL
US
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YOU
AND
REVIEW
%ARE IN
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THIS
%HIGH-VOLTAGE LINE.%>>
I
GO
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AND
%GIVE TALKS ABOUT THE
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%CHANGING LANDSCAPE
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RENEWABLE
%ENERGY.
%AND WE'RE
REALLY
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%REVOLUTIONS
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%DISTRIBUTED
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%SOLAR
ON
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HOMES
AND
%BUILDINGS, BUT
ALSO
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OUR
%UTILITIES, AND
UTILITY
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%RENEWABLES.
%WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE
COSTS
OF
%SOLAR COME
DOWN
ABOUT 88%
IN
A
%DECADE,
THE
COST
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UTILITY
%SCALE
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COME
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IN
A
%DECADE, AND
THERE
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JUST
%TREMENDOUS
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THIS
%TRANSITION AWAY
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COAL
AND
%TOWARDS
CLEAN
RENEWABLE
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%BUT IN
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STILL
%55%
COAL-FIRED
POWER
PLANTS
FOR
%OWRL
ELECTRICITY
AS
!
OUR
ELECTRICITY
AS
OF 2017
SO
WE
%SEE THIS
LINE AS
A
LINK
FOR
MORE
%RENEWABLE DEVELOPMENT NOT
ONLY%IN
THE
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ACTUALLY IN
%WISCONSIN.%>> SO YOU THINK
THAT
THIS
%TRANSMISSION LINE
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%WISCONSIN
BECOME
CARBON-NEUTRAL
%BY 2050 AS IS
THE
DECLARED
GOAL%ABOUT
THE
EVERS'
%ADMINISTRATION?%>> EXACTLY.
%GOVERNOR TONY EVERS HAS
JUST
%REINSTATED
THIS
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WITH
HIS
%EXECUTIVE
ORDER
LAST WEEK
FOR
%THE STATE TO
BE
100%
CARBON-FREE
%ELECTRICITY
BY 2050.
%WE VIEW
THIS
LINE AS
A
LINK
TO
%HELP MAKE
THAT
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%WE
THINK A
LOT
MORE
NEEDS
TO
%HAPPEN
BESIDES
THAT,
CLEARLY,%AND
WE
UNDERSTAND THE
%COMPLEXITIES OF
REACHING THAT
%GOAL.
%WE
THINK
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HAS
%A THANK YOU!
!
HUMONGOUS
ROLE
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PLAY IN
%THAT, BUT
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ALSO
THINK
THE
%SCALE
OF
TRANSITIONING OUR
GRID
%AWAY
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COAL
AND
TO
LARGE
%SCALE
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AND
LARGE
SCALE
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%IS GOING
TO
REQUIRE
AN
%INVESTMENT
LIKE
CARDINAL-HICKORY
%CREEK.%>> BUT
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THE
WIND
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%IOWA, MINNESOTA
AND
THE
DAKOTAS
%JUST PASS
THROUGH
THIS
WISCONSIN%LINE
HEADED
FOR
OTHER
STATES
%THAT
ARE
EAST
OF
US?
%>>
NO,
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IS -- YOU
KNOW,
%WE'VE GOT
THE
MADISON
AREA
AND
%WE'VE
CERTAINLY
GOT
MILWAUKEE.
%THOSE
AREAS
ARE
WELL
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%BY
TRANSMISSION
TODAY,
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THIS
%IS
REALLY
THE
FINAL
LINK
OF 17
%LINES
THROUGHOUT
THE
WHOLE
%MIDWEST, AND
THIS
ENERGY IS
%GOING
TO
COME
INTO
WISCONSIN.
%WE
THINK
IT'S
VERY
EXCITING
%BECAUSE WE KNOW
THAT
IT'S
VERY
%LOW
COST.
%AS I
SAID, THE
COST
OF
WIND
%POWER
HAS
COME
DOWN
ALMOST
70%.
%THE WAY
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THE
MIDWEST
MARKET
%WORKS IS
THE
LOWEST
COST
%RESOURCES GET
DEPLOYED FIRST.
%AND
SO
THAT
WIND IS
GOING
TO
%COME
IN FIRST
AND
THEN
MORE
%EXPENSIVE STUFF IS
GOING TO
GET
%LAYERED OP
TOP
OF
IT,
AND
W
E
%THINK OVER
TIME, IT'S
ACTUALLY
%GOING
TO
DISPLACE MORE
OF
OUR
%COAL
POWERED
GENERATION IN THE
%STATE.%>>
ISN'T
THIS
TRANSMISSION LINE
%ALSO
FOR
FOSSIL
FUEL?%>>
WELL, IT IS
PART OF
THE
%ENDIRE MIDWEST
GRID,
AND
SO
IT'S
%GOING
TO -- YOU
KNOW,
THE
POWER
%PLANTS THAT
ARE
ON
TODAY
ARE
%GOING TO
BE
ABLE
TO
USE
THAT
%LINE, THAT'S
TRUE, BUT
WE
ALSO
%HAVE TO
LOOK
AT
WHAT
IS
THAT
%FUTURE MIX GOING
TO
LOOK LIKE
%AND HOW
DO
WE
GET
THERE,
AND
IN
%OUR
VIEW, THIS
IS
THE
TYPE
OF
%LINE THAT'S
GOING
TO
ALLOW
LOWER
%COST
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AND
LOWER COST
SOLAR
%TO
ACTUALLY
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HIGHER
%COST, SPECIFICALLY
COAL
POWER
%PLANTS
AS
TIME GOES
ON.
%>>
N
OW I
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AMERICAN
%TRANSMISSION COMPANY IN
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PSC
%SAID THIS
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WAS
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%PROVIDE
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I
N
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%EXPERTS SAY
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A
%SURPLUS
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ELECTRICITY
SUPPLY
IN
%WISCONSIN,
AND
RELIABILITY ISN'T
%
AN
ISSUE.
%WHAT ABOUT
THAT?%>>
YEAH,
SO
THIS
PROJECT
WAS ONE
%OF 17
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CALLED
THE
%MULTIVALUE PROJECT
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OR
%MVP
PORTFOLIO
THROUGHOUT THE
%REGION.
%ALL 17 OF
THOSE
WERE
STUDIED
%TOGETHER, BUT
EACH
LINE
HAD
TO
%PROVIDE NET
POSITIVE
BENEFITS T
O
%THE
WHOLE
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TERMS
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%INCREASING
RELIABILITY, IN
TERMS
%OF
ALLOWING
LOWER
COST
ENERGY
TO
%FLOW,
AND
REDUCING
CONGESTION
%BETWEEN DIFFERENT
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AND
%THIRD, TO
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US
AS
OUR
STATES,
%TO
HELP
OUR
STATES
MEET
%INCREASING
RENEWABLE
ENERGY
%TARGETS.
%NOW THAT WAS BACK
IN 2011.
%IN
THAT
TIME
WHEN
THEY
STUDIED
%IT
ORIGINALLY,
THEY
PREDICTED
BY
%2025, WE
WOULD
HAVE
ABOUT
13,000 MEGAWATTS OF
WIND IN
THE
%MIDWEST.
%THAT
WOULD
BE
ABOUT
7%
OF
MISO,
%THE
INDEPENDENT
SYSTEM
OPERATORS
%ELECTRICITY.
%SO
THEIR
PREDICTION
WAS 13,000
%BY 2025.
%WE'RE
ALREADY
OVER 16,000 MEGA
%
WATTS
TODAY,
WITH
ABOUT --
AND
%WE
WILL
SOON,
IN
2020, BE
AT
%ABOUT
24,000 MEGAWATTS.
%SO WE'RE
GOING
TO
BE MORE
THAN
%TWICE THE
AMOUNT
OF
WIND
THAT
%THEY
PREDICTED
FOR
2025, WE'RE
%GOING TO
HIT
THAT
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%THERE'S
ANOTHER
20,000 MEGAWATTS%BEYOND
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AND
THEN
THERE'S
%ABOUT 20,000 MORE IN
EARLIER
%STAGES.
%SO WE COULD
BE,
B
Y
2025, 2030
%TIME
FRAME,
6 TO 10
TIMES
MORE
%WIND
IN
RENEWABLES
THAN WHAT
%THEY
HAD
STUDIED
PREVIOUSLY.
%SO
THAT
MARKET JUST
CHANGING
SO
%DRAMATICALLY, AND IT'S
ACTUALLY
%FORCING
THE
CONVERSATION BACK
TO
%THE MIDWEST TO
THE
INDEPENDENT
%SYSTEM
OPERATOR.
%YOU
HAVE
TO
PLAN
FASTER
BECAUSE
%THIS REVOLUTION IS
HERE.%>> ALL
RIGHT.
%TYLER
HUEBNER, THANKS VERY MUCH.%>>
YOU
BET
.
%>>
MORE
NOW ON
THE
%CARDINAL-HICKORY
CREEK
%TRANSMISSION LINE AND
ANOTHER
%VIEW.
%THE
DRIFTLESS
AREA
LAND
%CONSERVANCY IS
DEDICATED
TO
THE
%PRESERVATION OF THE
NATURAL
%LANDSCAPE OF
SOUTHWEST
%WISCONSIN.
%THE
CONSERVANCY
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%TRANSMISSION LINE AND
IS
%REPRESENTED
BY HOWARD
LEARNER,
%AN ATTORNEY WITH
THE
%ENVIRONMENTAL LAW
AND
POLICY
%CENTER OUT OF
CHICAGO.
%THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
BEING
HERE.%>>
GOOD
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JOIN
YOU.%>> SO
I
UNDERSTAND THAT
YOU
DO
%ANTICIPATE
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A
LAW
SUES%OVER
THE
PSC
RULING.%>>
THE
DRIFTEST
AIR
LAND
%CONSERVANCY AND THE
WISCONSIN
%FEDERATION
WHO
SAID THE
%COMMISSION GOT IT
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A
%MATTER OF
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A
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%FACT
AND AS A
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POLICY,
%IF
THEY TRY
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DO
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INTERIM
%ORDER THAT
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THE
%DISCUSSION
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%IF
SO,
THEY
SAID WE'RE
GOING
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%APPEAL.%>>
ON
WHAT
SPECIFIC GROUNDS DID
%THEY GET
IT
WRONG?%>>
FIRST OF
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LAW
IN
%WHICH IS,
YOU
HAVE
TO
%DEMONSTRATE THAT
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%TRANSMISSION LINE IS
NEEDED
FOR
%RELIABILITY.
%THIS ONE ISN'T.
%WISCONSIN HAS
A
SURPLUS
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%POWER, THE
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THE
%COMMISSION
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T
IT
%WASN'T
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EXTENSIVE
%EVIDENCE IN THE RECORD.
%THE
COMMISSION ALSO
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THE
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THE
%ENVIRONMENT, AND
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IT
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%TO
THE
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A
%HUGE
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%STORY HIGH
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%THE
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THE
DRIFTLESS
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%KIND OF
A
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%THROUGH THE
MIDDLE OF
THE
%DRIFTLESS
AREA
.
%COMMUNITIES,
FARMS,
NATURAL
%RESOURCES
GO
THROUGH
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BLACK
%EARTH
CREEK
WATERSHED AS
WELL,
%AND ON
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%GIVE ENOUGH
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%THEY SAID WE
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THIS
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%SHOULD GO
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SO
THE
%ENVIRONMENTAL PIECE OF
IT,
%THAT'S JUST GOT TO
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%AND
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A
%TRANSMISSION LINE THAT
FACED
%UNPRECEDENTED
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%THOUSANDS OF
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%AT
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AND
THE
%LEGISLATORS, BOTH
REPUBLICANS
%AND
DEMOCRATS FROM THE
AREA,
THE
%DANE COUNTY
BOARD,
THE
IOWA
%COUNTY BOARD ALL
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THE
%COMMISSION, DON'T DO
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%AND THE
COMMISSION
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%DISRESPECTED THE PEOPLE
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%SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN
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%PUBLIC
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SOUTHWEST
%WISCONSIN.%>> GIVEN
THAT
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%YOU
SURPRISED BY THE
VOTE?%>>
YOU
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I
WAS
SURPRISED
%THAT
THE
COMMISSION
SEEMED TO
%KNOW
WHAT
THEY
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%DIDN'T LOOK AT
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THE
IPT
%VEENERS
HERE,
THE
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THE
%FEDERAL ENERGY REGULATORY%CO
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PRIOR
%ADMINISTRATION,
THE
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%EXPERTS IN THE
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%FEDERATION,
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%WISCONSIN DNR.
%A WHOLE
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%AND
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%IGNORED
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%ITS
OWN
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%WE
EXPECTED
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%COMMISSION.
%WE'RE
VERY
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%SUPPORTERS THAT
THIS
%TRANSMISSION LINE WILL BE
A
%CORNERSTONE IN
THE
TRANSITION
%FROM
FOSSIL
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TO
A
CLEAN
%ENERGY
GRID?%>>
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GOT
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TO
THE
%TESTIMONY IN THE RECORD.
%THAT
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MARY
NEIL,
%WHO
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THE
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%THE
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%EXPLAINED
THIS
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%IS
GOING
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TO
SIEL
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%AND
AS
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IF
NOT
MORE
SO
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%WIND.
%SO
THIS
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%LINE, THERE'S NOBODY
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%SERIOUSLY
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%THIS LINE
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THE
%UTILITY BOARD
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%OTHER
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%GOING
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%SO
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%THOSE
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THERE
ARE
%BETTER
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%ENERGY ECONOMY IN
WISCONSIN.%>>
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WISCONSIN
BE
%DOING TO GET
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%>>
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%BE
DOING THAT
WOULD
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MUCH
%BETTER.
%AND IT
WOULD
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%IMPACT ON THE
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%TERRIBLE DAMAGE THIS
WILL
%CREATE.
%FIRST OF
ALL,
CONTINUED
%AGGRESSIVELY
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%THERE'S
4500 WATTS OF
SOLAR
%ENERGY IN
WISCONSIN, MORE THAN
%ANY OTHER
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MIDWEST.
%THAT'S
REALLY
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%AND THERE'S
SOME
WIND
PROJECTS
%THAT
ARE
GOING
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%SECONDLY, WE NEED
TO
BE
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%SMARTER ON
ENERGY
EFFICIENCY.
%ENERGY
EFFICIENCY
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%CONSUMERS,
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BUSINESSES
%MONEY,
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THE
FASTEST,
THE
%CHEAPEST SOLUTION
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%AND
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%NUMBER OF
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,
%THERE'S SOME
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%TRANSMISSION LINES
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OLD
%AND
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%HAVE BEEN.
%UPGRADE
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THEM
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%USE THE SWORD
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ARE%MORE
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%BANG FOR THE
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%WHEN
ALL
SAID
AND
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%THERE ARE MUCH
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%ALTERNATIVES, MUCH BETTER
WAYS
%TO
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%WE'RE HERE
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%PASSTHROUGH
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SOMEBODY
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%WANTS
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%OUT WEST
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SOMEWHERE OUT
EAST.%>>
S
O
IN
TERMS OF
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LINE,
%LET'S
SAY
THE
PSC
RULING
STICKS
%AND WE'VE
GOT
THIS
ROUTE.
%WOULD
YOU
EXPECT
TO
CHALLENGE
%THE ROUTE
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CONCERN
%ABOUT IT
CUTTING
THROUGH
THE
%DRIFTLESS
AREA?
%>>
THERE
ARE
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THE
%ROUTE AND
CONCERNS ABOUT
THE
%NEED
AND AS I
SAID,
THERE'S
AN
%UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF
%INTERVENERS WHO HAVE BEEN IN
%THIS
CASE,
SO
DIFFERENT
PARTIES
%MAY CHALLENGE
IT
ON
A
DIFFERENT
%BASIS.
%WHEN
ALL
IS
SAID
AND
DOB,
THIS
%IS
!
DONE,
THIS
IS
LIKE
A
HUGELY
EXPENSIVE
%INVESTMENT IN
LANDLINE TELEPHONE
%WIRES AND
POLES
WHEN
CELLULAR
%TECHNOLOGY IS
READY
TO
MOVE
%FORWARD
RAPIDLY,
WE
CAN
DO
%BETTER
HERE.%>>
WE
NEED
TO
LEAVE
IT
HERE.
%HOWARD
LEARNER, THANKS
MUCH.%>>
GOOD
TO
JOIN
YOU.%>>
THANKS.
%WISCONSIN
PRISONS ARE
BUSTING AT
%THE
SEAMS.
%NEARLY 6,000
INMATES
OVER
%CAPACITY.
%WITH
POPULATION STEAD
LEA ON
THE
%RISE.
%AT THE SAME
TIME,
THE
MOST
%RECENT
STATE
BUDGET
FUNDS
A
14%
%INCREASE IN
STARTING
PAY
FOR
%CORRECTIONAL OFFICERS IN
EFFORTS
%TO
FILL
VACANCIES AMONG
GUARDS.
%ADD
TO
THAT
WORK
TO
REPLACE
THE
%TROUBLED
WISCONSIN
YOUTH
%PRISONS, AND
IT'S
A
FULL
PLATE
%FOR THE
NEW DEPARTMENT OF
%CORRECTIONS
SECRETARY-DESIGNEE%KEVIN CARR.
%WE
TALKED
WITH
HIM
AT
HIS
%OFFICE.
%IN TERMS
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PRISON
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PRISON
SYSTEM%OVER
INMATE
CAPACITY?%>> I
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A
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%FACTORS
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GO
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OUR
CURRENT
%PRISON
POPULATION.
%MOST
NOTABLY,
THE
CURRENT
%SENTENCING
STRUCTURE IN
THE
%STATE OF
WISCONSIN,
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%SENTENCING HAS
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%POSITION WHERE
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%PEOPLE
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%SERVING 16
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%DON'T
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N
%PRISON DON'T HAVE
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%OPPORTUNITY
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%THAT, I
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%MORE
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%HAS
LED
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%POPULATION.%>>
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%NEED
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%HOW MANY
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%ABOUT 760
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%OUR
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%INCLUDING MEDICAL
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%TEACHERS,
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%ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF AND
%SECURITY STAFF
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%>>
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%IS
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%CERTAINLY
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%EVERY
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%I
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%CRISIS BUT
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%SITUATION.%>>
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%AND
INCENTIVE PAY
T
O
WORK AT
THE
%MAX
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WORKED
%TO
ATTRACT
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WELL,
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ED
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%OPINION
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%OFFICERS IN
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%WE
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%ACADEMY
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%APPROXIMATELY 70 INDIVIDUALS IN%
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%THAN
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CLASSES IN
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%YEARS.
%AND
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%HAVE APPLIED
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%MAXIMUM
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%THAT
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%ADD-ON.%>> IN
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%UNDERSTAFFING,
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%DOES
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%AND
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?
%>>
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%LESS SAFE
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O
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%SHORTAGES, AND
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%ABILITY FOR
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%SERVICES AND
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%THOSE WE
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OUR
%FACILITIES, BUT I
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%THE
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AT
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%CORRECTIONAL
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AND
STAFF
%THERE
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%VERY
TRY
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%ALTHOUGH
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%INVESTMENT
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%THE
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%PUT
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%TOWARDS
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%SECURITY STAFF
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%FACILITIES,
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%RIGHT
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%MORE WORK
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THAT
%AREA IN
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%WHAT THEY
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%NUMBERS OF
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%REPORTS FOCUS
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%CALL
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%BEING
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%CONVICTIONS
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%THAN 35%
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%ADMISSIONS
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%AS
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%HE
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%HALTING
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%HOW
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%>>
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%FROM THE DAY THAT I
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%APPOINTED
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%CORRECTIONS,
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%OF
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%UP
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%SPECIFIC AREA O
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CRIMELESS
%REVOCATIONS AND
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DO
%MUCH
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THAT
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%KIND
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METHOD
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REINTEGRATION
%FOLLOWING
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%GETTING OUT OF
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%RE-ENTRY EFFORTS,
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%THE
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%BUDGET
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%RE-ENTRY
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%OPENING
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%SUCCESS
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%THAT ARE
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OUR
%FACILITIES
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%THAT WE CARE FOR
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OUR
%FACILITIES READY TO
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%UPON
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OUR
%FACILITIES.
%BUT
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%GOVERNOR AND
I
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%STRONGLY THAT IN ORDER
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%HAVE
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%IN
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HAVE
%TO
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%SUPPORTS FOR THOSE
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ARE
ON
%SUPERVISION
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%NOT
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%THEY
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OUR
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%BUT
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%PROGRAMMING IN
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%HEALTH, DRUG
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%TRAINING ON THE
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%WOULD KEEP
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%TO
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%PLACE.%>> IS
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%THE
PRISON
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%WHICH GOVERNOR EVERS SAYS
H
E
IS
%STILL
COMMITTED
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%>>
WELL,
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%SPECIFIC TOLD
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KEVIN,
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%THE
KEYS,
LET
50% OF
THE
PEOPLE
%OUT,
IN
A
CERTAIN
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OF
%TIME.
%THE
GOVERNOR AND
I
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HAD
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%CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW
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%REDUCE THE
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%THE FIRST
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%THAT GOVERNOR EVERS HAS
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%ON IS
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I
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%LINES.
%ANY
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%THAT WILL
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WILL
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%VERY
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WHAT IS
THE
STATUS
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WHEN
%THOSE WILL CLOSE
AND
BE
REPLACED
%WITH THESE
REGIONAL
FACILITIES?%>>
WELL, THERE WAS A
TRAILER
%BILL THAT WAS
JUST
PASS
IN
THE
%BUDGET
FOR
ACT
185 THAT
EXTENDED
%THE
DEADLINE
TO
JULY 1ST, 2021
%AS
TO
WHEN IT WILL
BE CLOSED.
%WE'RE GOING
TO
DO
EVERYTHING
%THAT WE
CAN
TO
MEET
THAT
%DEADLINE,
BUT OF
COURSE
THE
GHOF
%GOVERNOR AND
I
ARE
COMMITTED
TO
%CLOSING
LINCOLN
HILLS AS SOON AS%POSSIBLE AND WHE
N
WE
HAVE
%APPROPRIATE
PLACES
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PLACE
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%YOUTH.%>>
IN
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%POPULATIONS, HOW
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%INKRARS RANGE OF
MOTION
RATE --
%PUTTING
WISCONSIN SECOND IN THE
%NATION FOR
RACIAL
DISPARITY?%>>
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THE
%GOVERNOR
AND
WE
ARE
LOOKING AT
%WAYS THAT
WE
CAN
INCREASE THE
%LEVEL OF
FAIRNESS
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ALL
%PERSONS IN
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%WISCONSIN THAT
ARE
INVOLVED IN
%THE
CRIMINAL
JUSTICE
SYSTEM.%>> ALL
RIGHT.
%KEVIN
CARR, THANKS VERY
MUCH.%>>
YOU'RE
WELCOME.
%>>
A
SLATE
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%REPUBLICAN
LAWMAKERS
IN
%WISCONSIN
HAVE
BROKEN
WITH
%ANTI-ABORTION
GROUPS
BY
%INTRODUCING A
BILL
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%BROADER ACCESS T
O
BIRTH CONTROL.
%IN
TONIGHT'S
LOOK
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A
BILL
%SUPPORTED BY
THE
LEGISLATURES
%INCLUDING
SPEAKER ROBIN
VOS
%WOULD ALLOW
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TO
%PRESCRIBE B
IRTH
CONTROL
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%AND
HORMONAL
CONTRACEPTIVE
%PATCHES.
%LEAD
SPONSOR
REPUBLICAN
%REPRESENTATIVE
MARY
FELZKOWSKI
%JOINS
US
BY
PHONE.
%THANK YOU
FOR
DOING
SO.
%>> THANK YOU FOR
HAVE
!
ING
ME
ON.
%>>
SO
WHY
DO
YOU
AND
OTHERS
%THINK WOMEN SHOULD
BE
ABLE
T
O
%GET CON ACCEPT TIFS FROM
!
CONTRACEPTIVES FROM A
%PHARMACIST AND
NOT
THEIR
DOCTOR?%>>
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NEED
A
DOCTOR TO
%PRESCRIBE
IT,
THERE'S
CERTAIN
%CRITERIA
THAT
GOES IN
THERE
AS
%WELL IN THE
SAFETY
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THE
DRUG.
%OVER
THE
YEARS
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THE
BIRTH
%CONTROL
BILL
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%INTRODUCED, BACK IN
THE
60s,
%IT
HAD
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HIGH
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%AND
THERE
WERE
SIDE
EFFECTS TO
%IT.
%BUT OVER
THE
YEARS
AS
SCIENTISTS
%HAVE COME
FARTHER,
THERE'S
VERY
%LOW
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%IF I GO TO THE DOCTOR
FOR
THE%FIRST TIME
FOR
BIRTH
CONTROL,%THEY'RE GOING TO
TAKE
MY
BROTHER
%AND DO
A
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%THEY'RE
GOING
TO
LOOK
AT
WHAT
%OTHER DRUGS
I'M
ON
AND
THEN
%THEY'RE GOING
TO
RECOMMEND%WHETHER OR NOT I
SHOULD
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%THE
BIRTH
CONTROL
PILL
OR
ORAL
%CONTRACEPTION.
%PHARMACISTS ARE TRAINED TO
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%THE
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%THEY KNOW
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%WITH EACH
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%SOMEBODY
HAS HIGH BLOOD
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%THEY
MIGHT
NEED TO
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SOME
%FURTHER
EXAM
AND
STUFF
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%SO
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LOOKED
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SAID
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%I
MEAN
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%EVERYTHING WHENEVER
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%DRUG
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%WOMEN
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EASILY
%ACCESS
IT,
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THE
%CHALLENGES THAT ARE OUT
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%AND KEEP
I
N
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OR
%THE
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AFTER
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%TIMES
THE
HORMONE
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THAT
%MOST
ORAL
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%AND YET
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EACH
HAVE
TO
%GO
THROUGH
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%CAN WALK IN AND BUY
IT
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THE
%SHELF.
%SO
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%THIS
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%EASIER THROUGH THE HELP OF
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%PHARMACIST.%>> SO WHAT
ARE
THE
SPECIFIC
%RULES AROUND
THIS
FOR
A
%PRESCRIBING
PHARMACIST?%>>
SO
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NOT
A
MANDATE
FOR
%PHARMACISTS.
%THIS IS
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TO
%OFFER THE
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I
COME
%IN
THERE,
THEY
WOULD
HAVE
TO
DO
%A
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ME,
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%QUESTIONNAIRE,
AND
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%ABLE TO
GIVE
TO
ME
,
THE
%PRESCRIPTION.%>>
SOME
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AND
%ANTIABORTION GROUPS, AS
YOU
%KNOW,
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%CONTRACEPTIVE ACCESS
INCLUDING
%WISCONSIN
FAMILY
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%SAYS,
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THE
%AVAILABILITY OF
CERTAIN
%CONTRACEPTIVES
WILL NOT
%NECESSARILY
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UNINTENDED
%PREGNANCIES
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COULD
DEFINITELY
%INCREASE
UNWANTED
SEXUAL
%ACTIVITY
A
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%INDIVIDUAL'S BEST INTEREST OR%
THE
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%IN
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%CONTRACEPTIVES -- WHICH
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A
%PRETERM
CHEMICAL ABORTION
%KILLING THE
UNBORN
HUMAN
BABY.
%WE DO
NOT
SUPPORT
SUCH
%CONTRACEPTIVES.%WHAT DO YOU
SAY
TO
THAT?%>>
SO
WE
HEARD
TESTIMONY,
%SCIENTIFIC
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AND
REPORT,
%YOU
KNOW,
THAT
WHAT
THE
BIRTH
%CONTROL
PILL
DOES
IS
IT
THICKENS
%THE MUCUS
LINING ON
THE
UTERINE
%WALL,
OKAY,
WHICH
PREVENTS
A
%SPERM FROM
ACTUALLY
REACHING
THE
%EGG
AND
FROM
CONTRACEPTION TO
%TAKE PLACE.
%AND
IF
THIS
IS
TRUE,
AND
THIS
%WAS
POINTED
OUT
BY ONE OF THE
%SCIENTISTS THAT
TESTIFIED, SO
IF
%WHAT THEY'RE
SAYING
IS
TRUE, WE
%WOULD
HAVE
MORE
ECTOPIC
OR
%TUBULAR
PREGNANCIES, SO
IT'S
NOT
%TRUE.
%LET
ME
JUST
CLARIFY, I
AM
100%
%PRO-LIFE.
%100%.
%100 OTHER
DEVELOPED
COUNTRIES
%HAVE
DONE
THIS.
%OTHER STATES
HAVE DONE
THIS.
%AND ONE OF THE
EXAMPLES THAT
WAS
%GIVEN IS
THE
UNPLANNED
PREGNANCY
%RATE
IN
DENVER,
COLORADO
SINCE
%THEY HAVE
GONE
TO
THIS
HAS
%DROPPED
BY
50%.
%SO
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MY
MIND,
IT
GIVES
YOUNG
%WOMEN,
ESPECIALLY YOUNG WOMEN
IN
%POVERTY, IT GIVES
THEM
MORE
%CONTROL
ABOUT PLANNING ON
WHEN
%THEY'RE GOING TO
HAVE
THEIR
%CHILD.
%AND
BY
ALLOWING
THAT, IF
WE
CAN
%GET
KIDS
THROUGH
HIGH
SCHOOL,
%LET
THEM
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THEIR DEGREE,
%HOPEFULLY MAYBE
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SOME
%SECONDARY EDUCATION AND OUT IN
%THE
WORKFORCE
BEFORE
THEY
PLAN
%TO
HAVE
THEIR
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TAKE
%THEM OUT
OF
THAT
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OF
%POVERTY.
%YOUNG WOMEN
UNDER THE
AGE
OF 20
%THAT
HAVE
CHILDREN OUT
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%WEDLOCK
ARE
75%
MORE
LIKELY
TO
%LIVE
THEIR
LIFE
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POVERTY
THAN%OUT OF
POVERTY.%>>
WITH
JUST
ABOUT
30 SECONDS
%LEFT,
CAN
I
ASK
WHETHER
YOU
%CONSIDER
THIS A
BREAK
WITH
%GROUPS
LIKE
PRO-LIFE
WISCONSIN
%AND
WISCONSIN
FAMILY
ACTION?%>>
NO,
I
PERSONALLY
DON'T.
%BUT
THEY
DO.
%SO
EVERYBODY'S
ENTITLED
TO
THEIR
%OPINION.
%SO
NO,
OUR
CAUCUS
IS
%PREDOMINANTLY
100%
PRO-LIFE
AND
%THIS
IS
SUPPORTED
BY
OUR
CAUCUS.%>> ALL RIGHT.
%I KNOW THAT.
%THANK YOU VERY
MUCH,
%REPRESENTATIVE
MARY
FELZKOWSKI%OF
IRMA,
THANKS FOR
JOINING
US.
%>>
YOU
BET.
%HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.%>>
YOU
TOO.
%WITH THE FALL
SEMESTER
JUST
A
%FEW
WEEKS
AWAY,
U.W.
MADISON'S
%FAMOUS
CAMP
RANDALL
RECEIVES A
%NEW LOOK
AT
ITS
FRONT
GATE.
%THE "NAILS
TAILS"
STATUE,
WHICH
%HAS
DOMINATED
THE
STADIUM'S
%FACADE
SINCE
2005,
WAS
TAKEN
%DOWN THIS
WEEK.
%THE STATUE
RECEIVED
CRITICISM
%FOR ITS
"UNIQUE"
LOOK,
AND
WILL
%BE
REPLACED
BY
A
BRONZE
BADGER.
%THE
NEW
INSTALLATION
APTLY
NAMED
%"THE
BADGER"
WAS
SCULPTED
BY
%WISCONSIN
ARTIST
HARRY
%WHITEHORSE AND
WAS
UNVEILED
%OUTSIDE
CAMP
RANDALL THIS
WEEK.
%"THE
BADGER"
SEASON
HOME
OPENER
%AT
CAMP
RANDALL
IS
AGAINST SOUTH
%FLORIDA, A
WEEK FROM
TONIGHT.
%AND THAT
IS
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
%TONIGHT.
%I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
%HAVE A
GREAT
WEEKEND.