%
>> I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
%TONIGHT
ON "HERE AND
NOW,"
WE
%FOCUS
THE
PROGRAM ON THE
TOPIC
%OF
INFRASTRUCTURE
IN
OUR
STATE.
%AND THE
BEATING
OUR
ROADS,
%HIGHWAYS
AND
PRIVATE
PROPERTY
%HAVE
TAKEN DUE
TO
YEARS
OF
%RECORD
FLOODING AND
STORMS.
%ZAC
SCHULTZ
TAKES
US
TO
SAWYER
%COUNTY TO
MEET
PROPERTY
OWNERS%AND
PUBLIC
OFFICIALS
WHO
SEEK%MORE THAN
A
QUICK
FIX IN
THE
%AFTERMATH OF
STORM
DAMAGE.
%STATE
TRANSPORTATION
SECRETARY
%DESIGNEE
CRAIG THOMPSON
IS
HERE.
%AND THE
BAYFIELD
COUNTY
HIGHWAY%COMMISSIONER TALKS ABOUT
A
U.S.
%SENATE
INFRASTRUCTURE
BILL
THAT
%HE'S
WORKED
ON
WITH
SENATOR
%TAMMY
BALDWIN.
%IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR
%AUGUST 16TH.
%>>
FUNDING FOR HERE AND NOW" IS%PROV
IDED IN PART BY FRIENDS OF%WISCONSI
N PUBLIC TELEVISION.
%♪
%[MUSIC]
%>>
A FIRST
LOOK
TONIGHT AT THE
%COST OF
CLIMATE
CHANGE.
%IF YOU'VE
TRAVELED,
VISITED OR
%LIVED
IN
NORTHWEST
WISCONSIN%OVER
THE
PAST
SEVERAL
YEARS,
%YOU'VE SEEN
DESTROYED ROADS
AND
%HIGHWAYS,
RUINED
HARBORS,
%DAMAGED HOMES
AND
EVEN
%FATALITIES.
%THIS IS
THE RESULT
OF
REPEATED%TORRENTIAL RAIN AND
FLOODING
%EVENTS, AND
LOCALS
IN
THAT
PART%OF
THE
STATE
CONTINUE
TO
%STRUGGLE
TO
REBUILD
%INFRASTRUCTURE.
%TONIGHT,
WE TAKE
A
DEEP
DIVE
%INTO THE ISSUE
STARTING WITH
%REPORTING FROM
OUR
PARTNERS
AT
%WISCONTEXT.
%JOURNALIST WILL
CUSHMAN
TRAVELED
%THE
REGION.
%THANKS A LOT FOR BEING
HERE.%>>
THANKS FOR
HAVING
ME.
%>>
SO
THESE
WERE
EVENTS
FROM
%2012, 2016
AND 2018.
%WHAT
COUNTIES
SUFFERED?%>>
RIGHT.
%IT'S SEVEN COUNTIES
IN
NORTHWEST
%WISCONSIN THAT WOULD
BE
DOUGLAS
%COUNTY WHICH
INCLUDES
SUPERIOR%AS WELL AS
BAYFIELD
AND
ASHLAND
%AND
IRON
COUNTIES,
AND
THEN
A
%LITTLE BIT FARTHER TO
THE
SOUTH,
%SAWYER,
WASHBURN
AND
BURNETT
%COUNTIES.%>>
SO
WAS
NORTHWEST
WISCONSIN
%HIT
HARDER
THAN
OTHER
REGIONS?%>>
THAT'S A
REALLY GOOD QUESTION
%AND I
THINK
PEOPLE
ALL OVER
THE
%STATE
WHO
HAVE
DEALT
WITH
FLASH
%FLOODS ALSO
ASKED
THAT
QUESTION.
%THE
THING
THAT'S
DIFFERENT
IN
%NORTHWESTERN
WISCONSIN IS THAT
%THESE FLOODS HAVE
BEEN
REPEATED,
%AS YOU
SAID,
THERE'S ONE
BIG ONE
%THAT
HIT
SUPERIOR
PRETTY
BADLY
%IN
2012,
AND
THEN 2016
AND 2018.%>>
NOW,
THESE
EVENTS
ARE
%DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THIS PART
OF
%THE STATE
OR
ANY
PART OF THE
%STATE HAS
SEEN IN
THE
PAST, IS%THAT
RIGHT?%>>
YEAH,
UNPRECEDENTED
RAINFALL
%IN
SOME
LOCATIONS FROM
ALL OF
%THE FLOODS.
%THE 2016
FLOOD
WAS
PARTICULARLY
%BAD IN
SOME
REGIONS.
%THE BAD
RIVER WHICH
DRAINS
A
%LARGE
PART
OF
NORTHERN
WISCONSIN
%INTO LAKE SUPERIOR
REACHED%RECORD
LEVELS
THAT
WERE 50%
%BEYOND
THE
PREVIOUS
RECORD,
JUST
%A
HUGE
1,000-YEAR FLOOD
THERE.%>>
SO
WHAT
WERE THE
COSTS OF
%THIS?%>> IN
THE TENS
OF
MILLIONS.
%JUST
TO
PUBLIC
INFRASTRUCTURE%ALONE.
%SO
IN
2016,
THAT
ESTIMATE
WAS
AT
%ABOUT $38 MILLION
TO
PUBLIC%INFRASTRUCTURE.
%THE 2018 STORM
CAUSED
AN
%ESTIMATED
ABOUT $13 MILLION AND
%THEN
MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS
MORE
IN%2012.%>>
INTERESTINGLY, YOUR
REPORTING
%SHOWS
THAT
HIGHWAY
%INFRASTRUCTURE IN THAT PART OF
%THE
STATE HAS
BEEN
HISTORICALLY
%UNDERBUILT.
%WHAT IS THAT
ABOUT?%>>
YEAH,
I
THOUGHT THAT
WAS
%PRETTY
FASCINATING PART
OF
THIS
%REPORTING.
%SO
HIGHWAY
ENGINEERS
USE
LIKE
A
%100-YEAR
STORM
STANDARD
OFTEN
TO
%SIZE
CULVERTS,
WHICH
ARE
THE
%PIPES
THAT RUN
STREAMS
%UNDERNEATH ROADS
AT
STREAM
%CROSSINGS.%NOT
ALL
HIGHWAY
ENGINEERS
DO
%THAT
BUT
THAT'S
KIND OF
THE
%COMMON
STANDARD,
SO
THEY WERE
%USING,
UP IN
THE
REGION
AND
%EVERYWHERE ELSE IN
THE
COUNTRY,
%STANDARDS THAT WERE
DEVELOPED IN
%THE
MID
20TH
CENTURY
FROM
%PRESCRIPTION DATA FROM THE
!
PRECIPITATION DATA.
%THAT
MADE
OFFICIALS
REALIZE THAT
%THEY WERE
REALLY
UNDERESTIMATING%THE SIZE
OF
STORMS
SO,
%THEREFORE,
THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IN
%PARTICULAR THE
CULVERTS
WERE
%WOEFULLY INADEQUATE FOR SOME OF
%THESE
REALLY
MAJOR
STORMS THAT
%WE'RE NOW
SEEING.%>>
MEANWHILE, ONE OFFICIAL SAID
%IN
YOUR REPORT
THAT
THERE
IS
%SIMPLY
NO
MONEY
FOR
THIS.
%WHY IS
THAT?%>>
YEAH,
I
TALKED
TO
TOWNSHIP
%AND
COUNTY
OFFICIALS
ALL OVER
%THE REGION
AND
THEY
ALL
SAID
%THEY
DON'T
HAVE
ENOUGH
MONEY.
%SOME
TOWNSHIPS
SAW
DAMAGE
THAT
%COST, FROM
A
SINGLE
STORM, MORE
%THAN
THEIR
ENTIRE
ANNUAL
BUDGET,
%AND THEN I
TALKED
TO
OFFICIALS
%IN
DOUGLAS
COUNTY
WHO
ALSO
%BLAMED
STATE
IMPOSED
LEVY
%FREEZES THAT HAVE
BEEN
ONGOING
%FOR YEARS
NOW, AS WELL AS
THE
%OPIOID
CRISIS.
%IN
RECENT
YEARS,
DOUGLAS COUNTY
%HAS HAD
TO
TRANSFER
HUNDREDS OF
%THOUSANDS OF
DOLLARS OUT OF
ITS
%HIGHWAY BUDGET TO
COVER
THE
COST%OF THE
CRISIS.%>>
WOW.
%GREAT
REPORTING.
%WILL
CUSHMAN, THANKS VERY
MUCH.%>>
THANKS
SO
MUCH.%>>
YOU
CAN
READ
WILL'S
FULL
%REPORT
TITLED
"WASHED
AWAY,
%NORTHWEST WISCONSIN COPES WITH%
THE COSTS
OF
A
CHANGING
%CLIMATE," BY
GOING
TO
%WISCONTEXT.ORG.
%SO
A
CLOSER
LOOK
NOW
AT
HOW
%REPEATED
FLOODING AND
STORMS%HAVE
POUNDED
BAYFIELD
COUNTY
%ROADS
IN
PARTICULAR, AND
HOW
A
%NEW BILL
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THE
U.S.
SENATE
%MAY
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%TEMPORARY
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%THE "REBUILDING STRONGER%INFR
ASTRUCTURE ACT" IS
%CO-SPONSORED
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WISCONSIN
%DEMOCRATIC
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TAMMY
BALDWIN
%AND
REPUBLICAN SENATOR
MIKE
%BRAUN
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INDIANA.
%THE
BILL
WOULD
CHANGE THE
WAY
%FEDERAL
EMERGENCY
FUNDS
ARE
%DISPERSED.
%CURRENTLY,
THE FEDERAL
HIGHWAY
%EMERGENCY
RELIEF
PROGRAM
%PROVIDES MONEY TO
CITIES
AND
%COUNTIES
TO
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DAMAGED
%INFRASTRUCTURE.
%HOWEVER,
THE
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%RESTRICTED
TO
REBUILDING TO
%ORIGINAL
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%BALDWIN
AND
BRAUN
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%ESPECIALLY WITH
THE
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%FREQUENCY
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BECAUSE
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%CLIMATE CHANGE
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THIS
%RESTRICTION SIMPLY
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UP
%STRUCTURES TO GET
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%AGAIN.
%THE
LEGISLATION
WOULD
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%IMPROVING
STRUCTURES TO
%WITHSTAND
STORM
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%OF
JUST
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THEM AS
IS.
%LAST MONTH
IN
A
BIPARTISAN
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%THE SENATE
COMMITTEE
ON
%ENVIRONMENT
AND
PUBLIC
WORKS
%PASSED
LARGER
INFRASTRUCTURE
%LEGISLATION THAT
INCLUDES
THE
%BALDWIN/BRAUN BILL.
%IT
NOW
HEADS TO
THE
FULL
SENATE.
%NORTHERN
WISCONSIN
OFFICIALS
%GATHERED
WITH
SENATOR
BALDWIN
%FOR
A
RECENT
PUBLIC
ROUNDTABLE
%ON THE NEW
BILL.
%BAYFIELD
COUNTY
HIGHWAY
%COMMISSIONER
PAUL
JOHANIK
WAS
%AMONG THEM.
%HE
JOINS
US
NOW OUT
OF
ASH
%LARND.%THANK
!
ASHLAND.
THANK
YOU VERY
MUCH
FOR
BEING
%HERE.%>> THANK YOU.%>>
BEFORE
WE
GET
TO
THIS
%PROPOSED
LEGISLATION, FIRST TELL%US WHAT
YOUR
COUNTY HAS
DEALT
%WITH IN
TERMS
OF
INFRASTRUCTURE%AND ROAD
DAMAGE OVER THE
PAST
%SEVERAL
YEARS
.
%>>
WELL, IN THE
LAST THREE
%YEARS, WE'VE
HAD TWO
MAJOR
FLOOD
%EVENTS.
%THE FIRST ONE
DID
NOT
AFFECT
THE
%WHOLE
COUNTY,
BASICALLY
THE
%SOUTHEAST CORNER.
%THE ONE
LAST
YEAR
AFFECTED TWO
%THIRDS OF
THE
COUNTY.
%WE HAD OVER
A
MILLION
DOLLARS IN
%DAMAGE
TO
COUNTY
ROADS.%>>
AND
DESCRIBE --%>>
IT
ALL
FALLS --%>>
DESCRIBE SOME
OF
THAT
DAMAGE.%>>
WE
HAVE 14
COUNTY
ROADS, NINE
%OF THEM WERE
DAMAGED, SEVEN OF
%THEM
WERE
CLOSED
OFF
COMPLETELY
%BECAUSE THEY WERE
WASHED
OUT,
%AND A
COUPLE
OF
THOSE
ROADS,
WE
%DEALT
WITH TWO YEARS
PRIOR
TO
%THAT WITH
THE
SAME
TYPE
OF
%FLOODING.%>> HAVE
YOU
EVER SEEN
ANYTHING
%LIKE THAT
IN
YOUR
JOB?
%AND
YOU'VE
BEEN
THERE
FOR
MANY
%YEARS.%>>
NO,
YOU
KNOW,
THE 100
YEAR,%500 YEAR
FLOODS SEEM TO
BE
%HAPPENING MORE
OFTEN.
%TO
PLAN
FOR
FUTURE, WHICH MORE
%THAN LIKELY IT'S
GOING
TO
HAPPEN
%AGAIN, THAT'S
WHERE
THIS
BILL
%WOULD
PAVE THE WAY
AND
SAVE
%TAXPAYERS MONEY.%>>
ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE HAVE
YOU
%EVER
REPAIRED
CULVERTS
OR
%ROADWAY
CLEAVAGES ONLY
TO
HAVE
%THEM
WASHED
OUT
AGAIN?%>>
YES,
ABSOLUTELY.
%TO FIX A
ROAD, AND
THAT'S
OUR
%MAIN CONCERN
AFTER
A
N
EVEN, IS
EVENT, IS
%TO GET
THE
ROAD
OPEN AS SOON AS
%POSSIBLE.
%KNOWING
WE
HAVE
A
PROBLEM
IN
%THAT AREA
TO
REPLACE,
SAY,
A
%CULVERT THAT'S
A
30-INCH
CULVERT
%TO
HANDLE
THE
WATER WITH
A 36 OR
%A
48-INCH
CULVERT
WHEN THE
ROAD
%IS
WASHED
OUT,
WOULD
SAVE
MONEY
%INSTEAD OF
PUTTING
THE
30-INCH
%OR
24-INCH
BACK
IN
PLACE AND
A
%MONTH
LATER,
AFTER
MITIGATION,
%BEING
ABLE
TO
REPLACE
WITH
A
%48-INCH CULVERT.
%WE'RE
DOING
THE
SAME JOB
TWICE.%>>
RIGHT.
%SO HOW
STRAPPED
IS
YOUR
COUNTY
%FOR MONEY
TO
REPAIR
AND
REPLACE
%SUCH
DAMAGE
REPEATEDLY?%>>
WELL,
YOU
KNOW,
WE
CAN'T
%AFFORD -- WE'RE
FORTUNATE WE
%WERE
ABLE TO
FUND
THE
REPAIRS,
%BUT THAT'S
NOT
ALWAYS GOING TO
%BE THE CASE.
%IF
WE
CAN
SOLVE THE
PROBLEM
THE%FIRST
TIME,
THAT MONEY
COULD
BE
%USED
ELSEWHERE.%>>
BECAUSE
THERE
ARE
CLEARLY
%COMPETING
COSTS
IN
COUNTIES,
%EVERYTHING
FROM HEALTH AND HUMAN
%SERVICES,
AGAIN,
TO,
YOU
KNOW,
%YOUR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
%SO
HOW
DOES THAT
KIND
OF
PUSH
%AND PULL
WORK?
%>>
EVERYBODY'S
GRASPING
FOR
THE
%SAME POT
OF
MONEY,
AND
YOU
KNOW,
%MY
CONCERN
BEING
ROADS,
BUT
%OTHER
DEPARTMENTS ARE
SAYING,
%OKAY, WE
NEED
THE
MONEY HERE
%TOO, AND
I
UNDERSTAND
THAT.
%SO
WE'RE
LOOKING
FOR
THE
%TAXPAYERS, WE HAVE
TO
LOOK
OUT
%FOR THEIR
WELL-BEING
TOO.%>>
SO
DESCRIBE AGAIN
HOW
THE
%BILL
FROM
SENATOR
BALDWIN THAT
%WOULD,
AGAIN,
DIRECT
THE FEDERAL%HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATIO
N TO
FACTOR
%IN
RESILIENCY AS THEY
CALL
IT
IN
%DISASTER
RECOVERY GRANTS
TO
%LOCAL
GOVERNMENTS, HOW
WOULD
%THAT HELP
BAYFIELD
COUNTY
AND
%OTHER
COUNTIES?%>>
IF
WE
KNEW
OF
AN
AREA IN
THE
%COUNTY ON
A
COUNTY
ROAD THAT
%CONTINUALLY
WASHES
OUT
WATER%OVER
THE
ROAD
BECAUSE
THE
%STRUCTURE
IS
TOO
SMALL,
WE
COULD
%MAYBE ADDRESS
THAT
SITUATION
%AHEAD
OF
TIME,
BEFORE
A
MAJOR
%RAIN
EVENT,
AND
THEN
BE
ABLE
TO
%HANDLE
THAT
WATER
AND
KEEP
OUR
%ROAD IN
PLACE.%>> NOW
YOU
WERE
AT
THAT
%ROUNDTABLE AS
WE
DISCUSSED
THAT
%SENATOR
BALDWIN
ATTENDED TO
HEAR
%ABOUT THIS.
%WAS THAT
WELL
ATTENDED
AND
WHAT
%WERE
OTHER
OFFICIALS
SAYING?%>>
IT
WAS -- YOU
KNOW,
BASICALLY%EVERYBODY HAD
THE
SAME
%CONSENSUS.
%ASHLAND
AND
BAYFIELD
COUNTY
WERE
%REPRESENTED THERE.
%AND EVERYBODY
SAID
THE
SAME
%THING.
%IT
REALLY
DOESN'T
MAKE
SENSE TO
%DO
THE
SAME
JOB
TWICE.
%IF WE
DO
IT
RIGHT
THE
FIRS
!
FIRST
%TIME, MAYBE WE WILL
NOT
HAVE
%THIS PROBLEM
AGAIN.%>>
AFTER
BEING
HIT
MULTIPLE
%TIMES BY
WHAT
PEOPLE ARE
CALLING
%100-YEAR
OR
500-YEAR
RAIN
EVENTS
%AND
FLOODING
EVENTS, WHAT
I
S
IT
%LIKE FOR
YOU
WHEN
STORMS
ARE IN
%THE
FORECAST?%>> IT'S
A
LITTLE
BOTHERING.
%IT DOESN'T SEEM
LIKE
WE
GET
A
%NICE
GENTLE
RAIN
ANYMORE.
%EVERYTHING ARE
THE
HARD
%DOWNPOURS.
%SO
YOU
DON'T
GET
ANY --
THE
%GROUND
TAKING
IN
VEG
TAKING IN
TAKE
%TAITION
TAKING
IN
ANY OF
THE
%MOISTURE, IT'S
JUST
RUNOFF.
%OUR STORMS SEEM TO
BE
HARDER
%STORMS
WITH
DOWNPOURS.%>>
YEAH,
TOUGH
STUFF.
%ALL RIGHT.
%WELL,
PAUL
JOHANIK,
BAYFIELD
%COUNTY HIGHWAY
COMMISSIONER,%THANK YOU VERY MUCH
FOR
JOINING
%US
AND
GOOD
LUCK
UP
THERE.%>> THANK
YOU.
%WE HOPE
FOR
SUNSHINE.%>>
ABSOLUTELY
.
%WHILE PEOPLE
WAIT
FOR
OFFICIALS%AT THE STATE
AND
FEDERAL
LEVEL
%TO
ACT
ON
CLIMATE
CHANGE,
IT'S
%THE
PEOPLE AT
THE
LOCAL
LEVEL
%WHO ARE
LEFT TO
DEAL
WITH
THE
%REALITY ON THE
GROUND AND
THE
%WATER IN
THEIR
BASEMENTS.
%"HERE AND
NOW"
REPORTER ZAC%SCHULTZ
TRAVELED
TO
SAWYER
%COUNTY
AND THE CITY OF
HAYWARD
%FOR THIS REPORT.
%>>
THE
VACATION TOWN OF
HAYWARD
%IN
SAWYER
COUNTY
IS
BUILT
ON
%WATER, BOTH
FIGURATIVELY AND
%LITERALLY.%>>
SO
HAYWARD
IS
BUILT ON
A
%SWAMP,
A
CATACOMB
OF
UNDERGROUND
%RIVERS.%>>
PAT
SANCHEZ
IS
THE
EMERGENCY
%MANAGER
FOR
SAWYER
COUNTY.
%SHE SAYS
THE
COUNCIL
SEE
IS
ALSO
%PRETTY
FLAT,
SO
TORRENTIAL
RAIN
%EVENTS LIKE THEY
HAD
IN
2014
AND
%'16 WILL LEAD
TO
HEAVY
FLOODING.%>> WE
HAVE A
LOT
OF
RIVERS, A
%LOT OF
STREAMS, A LOT
OF
LAKES,
%AND
WHEN
WE
GET
HEAVY
DOWNPOUR
%LIKE WE'VE
HAD IN
THE
PAST
%YEARS,
THERE'S
NOT
ANYWHERE FOR
%THAT WATER TO
GO.
%>>
I
DID
HAVE
CARPETING
DOWN
%HERE, BUT
THAT
ALL
ROTTED.%>>
SANDY
OKAMOTO
FEELS
LIKE
MOST%OF
THE
WATER
IN
SAWYER
COUNTY
%COMES
THROUGH HER
BASEMENT.%>>
BECAUSE
THIS
WHOLE
AREA
%FLOODS, AND IT
COMES
IN
%EVERYWHERE.%>> SHE SAYS
AFTER HEAVY
RAINS,
%THE
GROUNDWATER SPRAYS
INTO
THE
%BASEMENT IN HER
HOUSE
AND
HER
%RENTAL PROPERTY NEXT
DOOR.%>>
IT'S
LIKE
SOMEONE IS
STANDING
%WITH
A
SQUIRT
GUN
BEHIND THE
%WALLS
AND
JUST --
IT
COMES
%THROUGH
EVERYWHERE.
%>>
WHEN
THE
FORECAST
CALLS
FOR
%HEAVY
RAINS,
SANDY
CAN'T
SLEEP.
%>>
VERY
OVERWHELMING.
%AND ALL I
DO
IS
RUN BACK
AND
%FORTH BETWEEN THE TWO
HOUSES
AND
%MOVE
PUMPS
AND
MOVE
HOSES.%>>
BUT
SANDY
SAYS
IT
WASN'T
LIKE
%THIS WHEN
SHE
BOUGHT THESE
%HOUSES.
%THIS CREEK
AND
NEIGHBORING%SHUE'S POND WOULD
OCCASIONALLY%DRY UP.
%>>
LIKE
I
SAY,
THERE
WASN'T
EVEN
%WATER
IN
THIS
CREEK.
%I
MOWED.
%IT WAS
BONE
DRY.
%I
MOWED
ACROSS
IT.
%>>
THE
WATER LEVEL
IN
PLACES
%AROUND
SAWYER
COUNTY
IS
JUST
%HIGHER
THAN
IT'S
EVER
BEEN.%>>
IT'S
KIND OF AT
THE
BOTTOM OF
%THE
DRAINAGE SYSTEM SO
IT
HAS
%NOWHERE TO
GO
FROM
HERE.%>>
DON
HAMBLIN
IS
BOTH
THE
FIRE
%CHIEF
AND
PUBLIC
WORKS
DIRECTOR
%FOR THE
TOWN
OF
HAYWARD SO
HE'S
%BEEN
MONITORING THIS
ROAD
.
%>>
THERE'S
DEFINITELY
STRUCTURAL
%ISSUES THAT HAVE
TO
BE
%ADDRESSED.%>> WHEN
THE WATER
RECEDES,
HE
%CAN FIX
THE
ROAD BUT
THE
BIG
%QUESTION
IS,
HOW
SOON
WILL
HE
%HAVE TO
DO
IT
AGAIN?%>>
ARE
WE
GOING
TO
BE
ADDRESSING%THESE
PROBLEMS
CONTINUALLY
FOR
%THE
NEXT
20, 50
YEARS?%>>
THE 2014
AND
'16 FLOODS IN
%SAWYER
COUNTY
WERE
BOTH
CLOSE
T
O
%BEING
LABELED
AS
100-YEAR
%FLOODS.
%COUNTIES
IN
NORTHWEST
WISCONSIN
%HAVE DEALT
WITH
REPEATED
100,%500
AND
EVEN
THOUSAND-YEAR FLOOD%EVENTS IN JUS
T
THE
PAST
FEW
%YEARS.
%WASHING AWAY
ROADS,
FLOODING
%HOMES, AND
MAKING
EVERYONE
%CONSIDER WHETHER
THIS
IS THE
NEW
%NORMAL
.
%>>
WE'RE
NOT
LOOKING AT
THE
%PROBLEM IN
THE
BIG
PICTURE,
%WE'RE JUST
SAYING
HOW
CAN
WE
GET
%IT
BACK
TO
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%OFFICIALS AROUND
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%TO TALK ABOUT
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%FEDERAL GRANTS TO
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%EMERGENCIES.%>>
PREPAREDNESS
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%WIDELY
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%SOME COMMUNITIES ARE
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%MORE PREPARED THAN
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HE
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%ASKED ABOUT
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NEXT
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%AREA
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NEXT
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%WE'RE
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%SO
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%MAGNITUDE THAT WE'LL
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%CHOICE AT
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%ALLOCATE
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%ADDRESS
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%>>
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%THEY
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%WHICH
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WHICH
ROADS
AND
%HOUSES WOULD
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%DURING 100
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500-YEAR
FLOOD
%EVENTS.
%A
500-YEAR
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SAWYER
%COUNTY
WOULD
CAUSE
NEARLY%$12 MILLION IN DAMAGES TO
%BUILDINGS AND
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50 MILES
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%ROADS
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%WE OVERLAID THE
STUDIES
%INTERACTIVE MAP
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%DOWNTOWN
HAYWARD
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JUST
%HOW MUCH WOULD
BE
UNDER
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SAW
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I
JUST
%SAID
I
HOPE
I
RETIRE
BEFORE
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%HUNDRED YEAR AND
THE 500
YEAR
%FLOODS.%>>
PAT
SANCHEZ
WOULD
BE
IN
%CHARGE
OF
MANAGING
A
FLOOD
%EMERGENCY, AND WHEN SHE
READ
THE
%STUDY, SHE MADE A
PHONE
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%>>
I
ORDERED 10,000
BAGS
AND
HAD
%THEM
DELIVERED
AND
THEN
I
%PRESTAGED
THEM NORTH AND
SOUTH.%>>
SO
FAR,
SHE
HASN'T
NEEDED
%THEM.%>>
LUCKILY
IT
DIDN'T
HAPPEN.
%I'M STILL
KNOCKING
ON
WOOD
%BECAUSE WE'RE
NOT OVER
THE
%SEASON YET.
%>>
BUT
SANDBAGS
ARE
A STOP-GAP
%SOLUTION, NOT
A LONG
TERM
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WE
CAN
START
LOOKING
AT,
YOU
%KNOW, DO
WE
NEED
BIGGER
%CULVERTS, DO
WE
NEEDLESS
%PAVEMENT?%>> EVERY TIME
WE
REDO
A
ROAD
%PROJECT, WE TRY
TO
IMPROVE
%DRAINAGE.%>>
DON
HAMBLIN SAYS
AFTER
THE
%LAST TWO
FLOODS,
THE TOWN OF
%HAYWARD
STARTED
RE-THINKING
%THEIR
APPROACH
TO
ROAD
BUILDING.%>> WE'VE KIND
OF
PRIORITIZED
%SOME OF OUR
PROJECTS
BASED
ON
%WATER
FLOW.%>>
HAMBLIN
SAYS
INSTEAD OF
JUST
%REPAVING THIS
ROAD,
THEY
DECIDED
%TO
RAISE
IT
UP
SO
WATER
COULD
%DRAIN
OFF
.%>>
WE'VE
ADDED
ANYWHERE
BETWEEN
%4 AND
10 INCHES OF
GRAVEL
IN
%SOME PLACES
TO
GET
BETTER
%DRAINAGE
AND
IMPROVE
SOME OF
THE
%STRUCTURE UNDER
THE
ROAD.
%>>
THESE
PROJECTS
CAN
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%EXPENSIVE.
%IT
WILL
COST $345,000
TO
REPLACE
%THE
UNDERSIZED
CULVERT
THAT
%CARRIES SMITH
CREEK
UNDER
%HIGHWAY 63 IN
HAYWARD.
%THE CITY
OF
HAYWARD
IS
TELLING
%RESIDENTS
LIKE
SANDY
OKAMOTO
%THEY'RE
WAITING
FOR
THE
STATE
TO
%PAY.
%>>
I
KNOW THEY'RE
WAITING
FOR
%THE
DOT
TO
GIVE
THEM
A
BIG
CHUNK
%OF
MONEY
TO
DO
SOMETHING
%UNDERNEATH
HIGHWAY
63 AND
THEY
%SAY
THERE'S
NO POINT
IN
FIXING
%ANYTHING
THIS
SIDE
OF
HIGHWAY
63 BECAUSE
THEN
THE
HOMES
%DOWNSTREAM
WOULD
FLOOD.%>>
THE DEPARTMENT OF
%TRANSPORTATION
ISN'T
SCHEDULED
%TO
START
WORK
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%SHE CAN'T
IMAGINE
WAITING
UNTIL
%THEN.%>>
IT'S
JUST
NO
WAY
T
O
LIVE.%>>
I'VE
JUST
BEEN
TOLD
THERE'S
%NO
MONEY,
THERE'S
NO
MONEY,
%THERE'S
NO
MONEY.
%WE'VE
TALKED
TO
OUR
POLITICAL
%ENTITIES
AND
THEY
KEEP
SAYING%WRITE GRANTS.
%WELL, WE
NOW
HOW
COMPETITIVE
%GRANTS ARE
NOW
DAYS.%>>
AND
I
SUSPECT
BECAUSE OF THE
%THINGS THAT WE'VE
EXPERIENCED IN%THE
LAST FIVE
YEARS,
NAMELY
THE
%FLOODING
ISSUE --%>> FIVE
YEARS
AGO,
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%WASN'T
EVEN
LISTED AS
A
CONCERN
%ON
SAWYER
COUNTY'S
HAZARD
%MITIGATION PLAN GRANT
%APPLICATION.
%NOW
IT'S
NUMBER ONE.%>>
I'M
NOT
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FUNDING
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THESE
THINGS
%BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO
BE
%COMPETING AGAINST NOT JUST
THE
%OTHER
COUNTIES THAT
HAVE
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%AFFECTED
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BUT
EVERY
%COUNTY
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THE
COUNTRY.%>>
JASON
LAUMANN
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%GOVERNMENTS NEED TO
PLAN
FOR
%THESE
COSTS.%>>
COMEUBTS,
COUNTIES
HAVE
%GOTTEN
TO
REALIZE
THAT
THEY'RE
%GOING TO
HAVE
TO
BEAR
SOME OF
%THE BURDEN FOR
THIS,
ESPECIALLY
%WITH
THE INFRASTRUCTURE
COSTS.%>>
OTHERWISE, THEY'LL BE IN
THE
%ODD
POSITION OF
HOPING
WHEN
THE
%FLOOD
COMES,
IT'S
REALLY
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SO
%THEY
QUALIFY
FOR
FEMA GRANTS
TO
%REBUILD
.
%>>
THIS
IS
THE
LARGEST
CULVERT
%STRUCTURE THAT WE
HAVE IN
THE%TOWN OF
HAYWARD.%>> THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED
AFTER
%THE 2016 FLOOD
WASHED
OUT
THIS
%GRAVEL
ROAD.%>> IT
ENDED
UP
BEING
A
FEMA
%PROJECT.
%THE
TOTAL
COST OF
THE
PROJECT
%WAS
OVER $80,000 TO
PUT
THIS
BOX
%CULVERT
IN,
AND
YOU
KNOW,
FOR
%THE TOWN
TO
DO
THAT
ON
THEIR
OWN
%NEVER
WOULD HAVE
HAPPENED.
%>>
EVEN
WITH
THE
FEMA
MONEY,
THE
%TOWNSHIP STILL
HAD
TO
PAY
25% OF
%THE
COST.
%HAMBLIN
SAYS IT
WOULD
COST
5 TO%$10,000 TO
FILL IN
THE
WASHOUT.
%THEY
COULD
HAVE DONE
THAT
FOR
%NEXT EIGHT FLOODS AND
STILL
%SAVED
MONEY.%>>
HOPEFULLY
THIS
CULVERT
WILL
%OUTLIVE ALL OF
US.
%>>
BUT
THE
NEXT EIGHT FLOODS
MAY
%NOT BE
THAT FAR
OFF.
%>>
DO
WE
PLAN 50 YEARS
OR 100
%YEARS DOWN THE
ROAD OR
DO
WE
%PLAN FOR
TOMORROW
AND
HOPE
FOR
%THE
BEST?
%>>
THAT
WAS ZAC
SCHULTZ
%REPORTING.
%HIGHWAY
FUNDING, TRANSPORTATION
%COSTS
AND
THE
DOT'S
NEED
FOR
%STATE MONEY
TO
FIX,
MAINTAIN
AND
%BUILD NEW
ROADWAYS
ALWAYS
RISES
%TO
THE
TOP
OF
STATE
BUDGET
%PRIORITIES.
%THE
RECENTLY
PASSED
TWO-YEAR
%STATE BUDGET
WAS NO
DIFFERENT.
%THOUGH THERE
WERE
DIFFERENT
%IDEAS FOR
FUNDING
SOURCES,
SPLIT
%ALONG
PARTY
LINES, IN
THE
END,
%STATE
FUNDING
FOR
LOCAL
%TRANSPORTATION
PROJECTS
GOT
A
%BOOST:
A
10%
INCREASE
OR
%$66 MILLION OVER THE
BIENNIUM,
%PLUS
A $75 MILLION
GRANT
PROGRAM
%FOR
ONE-TIME
FUNDING.
%TONIGHT WE CHECK
IN
WITH
THE%DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION
%SECRETARY
DESIGNEE,
CRAIG
%THOMPSON,
ON THE
ISSUE
OF
LOCAL
%TRANSPORTATION
NEEDS.
%THANKS VERY MUCH
FOR
BEING
HERE.%>>
HI,
FREDERICA, THANKS FOR
%HAVING
ME.
%>>
SURE.
%SO HOW
FAR
WILL
THE
10%
BOOST IN
%THE $75 MILLION GRANT
PROGRAM
GO
%TOWARD
HELPING THESE
STRAPPED
%COUNTIES AND
LOCALS
MEET
THEIR
%HIGHWAY NEEDS?%>> I
THINK THE
WAY
YOU
JUST
%DESCRIBED
IT
IS
VERY
FAIR
AND
%VERY
IMPORTANT.
%THE
10%
INCREASE
IN
GENERAL
%TRANSPORTATION AIDS
IS
ONGOING
%WITH ONGOING
REVENUE
AND
I
THINK
%THAT'S
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COUNTIES
%AND
CITIES
AND
VILLAGES AND
%TOWNS TO
BUILD
A
PLAN,
HOW
%THEY'RE GOING T
O USE
THAT,
WHERE
%THEY'RE GOING TO START
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%REPAIRS.
%THE $75 MILLION GRANT PROGRAM IS
%GOING TO B
E
HELPFUL
AS
WELL
BUT
%WITH
ONE-TIME
MONEY,
THIS
IS
%MORE
JUST
FOR
A
SPECIFIC
%IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, SO
IT'S ONE%OF THE
REASONS
THE
GOVERNOR
%VETOED
IT THE
WAY
HE
DID RATHER
%THAN
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LOCAL
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%WE'RE
SETTING
UP
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%GRANT PROGRAM
WHERE
WE
CAN
HAVE
%DISCREET SPECIFIC PROJECTS COME
%IN,
DEMONSTRATE ECONOMIC
%DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WE
CAN
MAKE
%AWARDS
BASED
ON
THAT
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THOSE
%SPECIFIC
PROGRAMS.%>>
GETTING BACK
TO
THE
TIE-IN
%WITH
ZAC'S
REPORTING,
IN
HIS
%REPORT, THE TOWN
OF
HAYWARD
SAYS%IT
IS
RE-THINKING THE
APPROACH
%
TO
ROAD
BUILDING
BECAUSE
OF
RAIN
%AND
FLOOD EVENTS
AND
THE
DAMAGE
%THAT
THOSE
CAUSE.
%IS THE
DOT
ALSO
R
E-THINKING ITS
%APPROACH AND
HELPING
LOCALS
TO
%DO
SO?%>>
YOU
KNOW,
THIS IS
SOMETHING
I
%WAS
JUST AT
A
CONVENTION
OF
%MIDWEST
STATES,
OTHER
%SECRETARIES FROM
OTHER
DOTs,
%AND
RESILIENCY
ACROSS
THE
ENTIRE
%COUNTRY FOR
DOTs
IS
BECOMING A
%VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT
ISSUE.
%AND
AGAIN, IT'S
A
BALANCING
TEST
%BECAUSE WE HAVE
T
O
LOOK
AT
THIS
%AND WHAT'S GOING
ON
WITH
CLIMATE
%CHANGE AND
WITH
WEATHER
EVENTS
%IN
AREAS
LIKE
NORTHWEST, BUT W
E
%STILL HAVE
TO
CONTINUE
TO
%PRIORITIZE,
WHETHER
IT'S
ALONG
%CRITICAL
COMMERCE
CORRIDORS,
%BECAUSE
WE
CAN'T
JUST
START
%ENGINEERING EVERY AREA
UP
TO
%100-YEAR FLOODS OR
THINGS LIKE
%THAT, IT'S
JUST
NOT
PRACTICAL.
%SO
WE
HAVE
TO
RELY ON
THE
BEST
%DATA, THE
BEST
SCIENCE
AND
%BEGIN,
BUT
RE-LOOKING AT
SOME
OF
%THESE AREAS
THAT
HAVE
PERSISTENT
%ISSUE, HOW WE
DEAL WITH
THAT.
%>>
IN TERMS
OF
RESILIENCY, HOW
%DOES
WISCONSIN FARE
COMPARED
TO
%OTHER
STATES IN
TERMS
OF
%BUILDING FOR
THAT?%>>
WELL,
I
THINK
WE'RE
ALL
%LARGELY IN THE
SAME
BOAT THERE.
%THERE'S SOME
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THAT
%HAVE
HAD
VERY
CRITICAL
COMMERCE
%CORRIDORS TAKEN
OUT
WITH
%HURRICANES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
%LUCKILY WE
HAVEN'T
HAD
THAT T
O
%DATE, BUT
I
THINK
IT'S GOT
ALL
%THE
STATES
LOOKING AT
THIS IN
%EARNEST, AND
I
DO
THINK
WHILE AT
%THE STATE
LEVEL,
WE'RE
GOING TO
%HAVE TO
DO
GOOD
PLANNING.%SOME OF
THIS IS
GOING
TO
HAVE
TO
%COME AT
THE
FEDERAL
LEVEL AS
%WELL.%>>
ABSOLUTELY.
%IN
THE CITY
OF
HAYWARD,
GOING
%BACK
KIND
OF --
RESIDENTS
ARE
%EXPERIENCING
SEVERE
FLOODING
IN
%PART
BECAUSE THE CITY IS
WAITING
%UNTIL 2023 FOR
STATE MONEY
TO
%HELP FIX A
CULVERT.
%WHAT DO
YOU
SAY
AS
THE
%SECRETARY-DESIGNEE TO THOSE
%PEOPLE
WHO
CAN'T
NOT
IMAGINE
%WAITING FOUR YEARS
TO
ADDRESS
%THAT ONE
PROBLEM?%>>
WELL,
THIS IS
PART OF
THE
%REASON THAT
WE'VE BEEN
HAVING
%THIS
CONVERSATION
ABOUT
%TRANSPORTATION
RESOURCES
AND
%FUNDING IN
SUCH ERNEST.
%TO
BE
HONEST WITH
YOU,
THERE'S
%OTHER
LOCALITIES
YOU
CAN
TALK
TO
%THAT AREN'T ON
ANY
SCHEDULE
%RIGHT NOW
TO
HAVE
SOME
OF
THESE
%SORTS OF
THINGS REPLACE.
% REPLACED.
%I
KNOW FOUR YEARS
SEEMS LIKE
A
%LONG
TIME
ESPECIALLY
IF
YOU'RE
%IN ONE OF THESE
AREAS
BUT
WE'RE
%TRYING TO
MOVE THESE
THINGS
UP,
%OUR
STATE
HIGHWAY
REHABILITATION%WENT INTO
THIS
BUDGET
BUT
%THERE'S A
LOT
LOCAL NEEDS
OUT
%THERE.%>>
WHAT HAS
BEEN
THE
STATE
%CLIMATE
OVERALL?%>> I
DON'T KNOW
THAT ANY
OF
U
S
%CAN GIVE
A
DEFINITIVE ANSWER TO
%THAT,
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IN
YOUR
REPORTING AND
%YOU LOOK
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HAPPENED WITH%THAT
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WITH
THE
%HIGH WINDS
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%WISCONSIN, AGAIN,
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JUST
%LIFTED -- WE JUST
LIFTED
SOME
%WEIGHT
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SOME
%HIGHWAYS
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ALLOW
THEM
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%SOME OF
THESE
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AND
%TIMBER OUT OF
THERE
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%QUICKLY.
%SO IT IS
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US
IN%A LOT
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WAYS,
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%IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
NEED
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%KEEP
RELYING
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%UPDATING HOW WE'RE
DEALING WITH
%THIS.%>>
WHAT HAS BEEN
THE
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%FEMA'S REQUIREMENT
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WHEN
ITS
%EMERGENCY FUNDS ARE
USED
TO
%REBUILD STORM
DAMAGED
%INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT IT BE
BUILT
%TO
PRIOR
SPECS?%>>
THAT
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E
%TALKED ABOUT WHEN I
MENTIONED
I
%WAS A
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WITH
OTHER
%MIDWEST STATES
AND AT
THE
%FEDERAL
LEVEL,
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T
O
HAVE
%THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.%IS THAT
REALLY
THE
BETION
!
BEST
USE
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%TAXPAYER
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%IF YOU'RE DEALING
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%THAT THERE'S
A
LIKELIHOOD
THAT
%THIS EVENT
COULD
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TO
%SPEND ALL
THAT
MONEY
JUST
TO
%BUILD UP
THE
PRIOR
%SPECIFICATIONS
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THAT
VERY
%WELL MIGHT
DB
WE
!
--
WE
MIGHT
BE
%REBUILDING IT
AGAIN.
%AGAIN, THOSE
FEMA
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%THE FEDERAL
LEVEL,
WE
NEED TO
BE
%HAVING THOSE
CONVERSATIONS.%>> SO CAN
THE
STATE
DO
ANYTHING%ABOUT
THAT,
THOUGH?%>>
WELL,
I
THINK
WE
CAN
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%IN -- THAT HAS
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DO
WITH
WHEN
%FEMA
DOLLARS
ARE
INVOLVED
SO
WE
%CAN
AFFECT A
LOT
O
F OTHER
AREAS
%WHERE THEY'RE
NOT
INVOLVED.
%WITH OUR
STRUCTURES, WHEN
THEY
%DO GET
TO
END
OF
LIFE
AND
WE'RE
%REBUILDING
THEM, WE
USED
TO
HAVE
%A 25
AND 50
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%WE'RE LOOKING
AT MORE OF
A 100
%YEAR.
%SO
OUR
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ARE
%TRYING TO BUILD SOME
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%IN THESE
AREAS
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SPECIFIC
%AREAS, WE
CAN
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%PERSISTENT
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%EXAMPLE, WE CAN
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%AT
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SHIFTING
GEARS WITH
LESS THAN
%A
MINUTE
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THE
%REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SENATE HAS
%NOT
APPROVED
A
SINGLE
MEMBER
OF
%GOVERNOR
EVERS'
CABINET.
%HAS THAT
AFFECTED
YOUR ABILITY
%TO
DO
YOUR
JOB?%>>
IT
REALLY HASN'T.
%TO
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TO
THE
PEOPLE AT
%THE DEPARTMENT AND JUST
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%SURE THAT WE'RE
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%PROGRAM
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JUST
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%ABOUT AND DO
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%WHAT WE'VE BEEN
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%THERE'S
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%ABILITY OF
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ABLE
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%THAT.%>> DO YOU
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YOU
AS
%SECRETARY-DESIGNEE GIVES
THE
%SENATE LEVERAGE OVER YOU
OR
ANY
%OF
YOUR
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%AND I
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%THE
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JUST
%NEED TO
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CRAIG
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%MUCH.%>>
THANKS,
FREDERICA.%>>
SAYING
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%SERIOUS THREAT TO
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%TOURISM
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%WITH
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%100%
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%>>
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%ENERGY HAS
NOT
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PRIORITY
%IN
OUR
STATE,
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GOING
TO
%CHANGE THAT.
%AND
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GOING
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%POLICIES THAT
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%GREENHOUSE
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GAS
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%GENERATE
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%NEXT
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%SERIES
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%MEMBERS
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EVERS'
%CABINET.
%KEVIN CARR WILL BE
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%THAT IS
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FOR
OUR
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%TONIGHT.
%I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.%HAVE
A
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WEEKEND.
%♪
%[MUSIC]
%♪
%FUND%ING FOR HERE AND NOW" IS
%PROVID